Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 28

October 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 28, 2022.

List of games with support for high-fidelity image upscaling
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 5%23List of games with support for high-fidelity image upscaling

Kerotan MGS3
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23Kerotan MGS3

EZ Gun
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  czar  04:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * EZ Gun → Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article. Appears to be WP:GAMECRUFT #7 (non-notable weapon). Dominicmgm (talk) 21:53, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete&mdash;Too granular a mention for the target article. Would be a suitable redirect to a "list of weapons used in Metal Gear franchise titles"-type of article. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:54, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Smg4
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of unofficial Mario media. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Smg4 → Meta Runner (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * SMG4 (web series) → Meta Runner (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion. How does Smg4 relate to Meta Runner? SMG4 was already nominated for deletion, and having a redirect to Meta Runner makes no sense. SMBMovieFan (talk) 22:28, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Deletion. SMG4 itself is a show entirely seperate from Meta Runner. That space should be reserved for its own eventual page and not treated as a redirect to an unrelated subject. - K-popguardian (talk) 23:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article does say that it premiered on the SMG4 channel. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:47, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of unofficial Mario media: As it is mentioned there. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 17:13, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to List of unofficial Mario media * Pppery * it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, nom has been blocked as a sock. 00:18, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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Appearance of extrasolar planets
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Exoplanet. Legoktm (talk) 03:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Appearance of extrasolar planets → Sudarsky's gas giant classification (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too narrow for the target article, which is only about gas giants. For example, helium planets are described in their article as appearing white or gray. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 22:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Change target to Exoplanet and tag with Template:R from related word and Template:R to section. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:57, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Exoplanet per above. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:23, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Draft:Just Dance 2023
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . It's snowing! (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 15:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Draft:Just Dance 2023 → Just Dance 2023 Edition (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I would like this redirect deleted because there is already an article named Just Dance 2023 Edition in the mainspace. 104.247.238.154 (talk) 21:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * While WP:RDRAFT does not directly imply here since this was a BLAR and not a pagemove, I think the spirit of it means we should keep. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 22:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as R with history. Looks like the article in mainspace was made while this was still in draftsapce. The primary author of the draft may wish to retrieve their work for possible incorporation of some of the content into the mainspace article. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:38, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as R with history per Mdewman6. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SRE (ie drafts for articles that exist should be redirected to the article they are for). A7V2 (talk) 03:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per above <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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Brüün, Jonathan
<span id="Brüün, Jonathan"> <span id="Jonathan Brüün"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23Brüün, Jonathan

List of yaoi games
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of yaoi anime and manga. signed,Rosguill talk 23:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * List of yaoi games → Yaoi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misleading redirect: No such list exists in the target article. IceWelder &#91; &#9993; &#93; 15:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 17:31, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Category:Yaoi video games * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose retarget to category per WP:CLN: Redirects of list articles to categories are highly discouraged: list articles should take the place of the redirect. There was an AfD that resulted in merge. It was merged in a prose format, which still exists at Yaoi. I think that counts as a list because the paragraph does list a few significant games. Otherwise, a traditional table-style list of some yaoi video games exists at List of yaoi anime and manga. A final option I'm open to is restoring the list. It was purged of non-notable entries during the AfD, which made it a bit short (11 entries). If we can get more sourcing for the non-notable entries, it could actually be a nice list. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:15, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to List of yaoi anime and manga per Tavix, where several of these games are listed. Not sure about the other target, since it is not technically a "list" as the redirect suggests. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:11, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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NoCopyrightSound
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23NoCopyrightSound

Redmi Note 12
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Nomination withdrawn. Product now mentioned at article. Multiple reliable sources found. (non-admin closure)  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Redmi Note 12 → Redmi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:TOOSOON, no discussion of next-gen product AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:56, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep: This product was announced 2 days ago. — Hajoon0102 💬 01:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is nothing about this product at the target. The redirect can be created if/when content is added to the target, and should not have been created before content was added. A7V2 (talk) 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Content was added to the target today. I have also notified of this discussion at the target talk page. Jay  💬 18:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Vortian prisoner 777
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Vortian prisoner 777 → Invader Zim (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be a minor character in the comics. However it is not mentioned in the article and no reliable sources mention it. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Has a passing mention at voice actor Wally Wingert, but the source being referenced there has no mention of the character. Jay  💬 16:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as minor character that isn't even mentioned in any summaries. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:01, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Mon Mothm,a
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 16:15, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mon Mothm,a">Mon Mothm,a → List of Star Wars characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There's not way this is a common typographical error. What possible benefit could this serve as a redirect? It's a dangerous, time-consuming precedent if you ask me. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Due to the implausible search term. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete implausible punctuation use. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Minor Sith and dark Jedi in Star Wars
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 16:03, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Minor Sith and dark Jedi in Star Wars → List of Star Wars characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a feasible redirect, and that is not how this page is divided anyway. Equating Minor Sith and Dark Jedi under one umbrella search term is confusing and unhelpful. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Swollen eyeball
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Chemosis without prejudice to further drafting of a dab at Swollen eye signed,Rosguill talk 23:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Swollen eyeball → Invader Zim (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Swolen eyeball → Invader Zim (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This could be a generic term. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 14:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Chemosis, although I could see an argument to disambiguate with Periorbital puffiness (potentially at Swollen eye with this as a redirect to that). BlackholeWA (talk) 15:48, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, I don't exactly know where this should go to, but it definitely should not be redirecting to a TV show. "Swollen eyeball" can be used to describe the swelling around the eye (not the eye itself since it can't really swell, tho most people just refer to their eye swelling and not the area around it). ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment History shows this originally was an article that got BLARed to a "List of characters from Invader ZIM" article, which itself was BLARed into the main Invader ZIM article. MightyArms (talk) 20:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Swollen eye per Blackhole assuming we can write up a dab. Jay  💬 15:57, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Chemosis per Blackhole, and add a hatnote pointing to Periorbital puffiness. A DAB can also be created at Swollen eye, but I'm not sure it's necessary. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:39, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Seargeant Slab Rankle
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Seargeant Slab Rankle → Invader Zim (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A character that only appears in one episode of the TV series. Not mentioned in the article and reliable sources don’t mention this character. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 14:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per 1961 in animation, the character was voiced by Robert Cait but he doesn't have an article. Jay  💬 15:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Moosey fate
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Moosey fate → Invader Zim (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This “episode” is not mentioned in the article. Nor is it mentioned in reliable sources. Before being a redirect, the article A Room with a Moose used to be under this name. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 14:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per the BLARd content at A Room with a Moose, "moosey fate" is a phrase suggested by GIR.. Jay  💬 15:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No discussion of it in the article. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia’s Wikipedia article
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 5%23Wikipedia’s Wikipedia article

Temp (hairstyle)
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Southern Cross 9
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23Southern Cross 9

Nigger Hills
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Legoktm (talk) 03:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Nigger Hills → Ernie Hills (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term not mentioned in the article; seems a bit odd to have a redirect like this without the term being mentioned in the article. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)"> Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 10:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per above there is no reference to this nickname ever being used in reference to Ernie Hills. Dan arndt (talk) 05:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note that this was the original title, which was changed after an AfD, and a source in the initial revision (now a dead URL, seemingly after the website was bought by ESPN) seems to give it as a nickname. jp×g 06:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Given it was the original title, and the nickname is used in some coverage, I'd say keep. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - despite being incredibly offensive, the name does appear to have been used - two of the current article sources have -that word- in their titles (I will not be googling to double check). Therefore, it seems to be a possible search term. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  18:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Regarding sources used in the current article, see my reply to A7V2 below. – Scyrme (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDELETE, point 3. Calling this "a bit odd" is an understatement. Just because some people have used this "nickname" doesn't mean Wikipedia should reproduce it. – Scyrme (talk) 22:43, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as this seems to be a name used to refer to him. WP:RNEUTRAL applies. Also was the title of this article for a year. A7V2 (talk) 23:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "Non-neutral" and "offensive" are two different matters. Regardless, the AfD moved the article because reliable sources refer to him as "Ernie". In-fact, WP:RNEUTRAL (last paragraph) explicitly gives this as a valid reason for deleting the old title, particularly in cases of point 3 which I cited earlier. The sources cited in the article that refer to him by the previous title are a permanent dead link with no working archive (unverifiable, reliability can't be assessed) and what is basically a blog (not reliable). That casual racists with no self-awareness have used this term in informal contexts does not mean this redirect should be kept. – Scyrme (talk) 14:20, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This just reads as WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. People called him this. We shouldn't go out of our way to make it harder for someone to find this article. I don't know where the name comes from but it is used in at least one reliable source, the "permanent dead link" from the article, so presumably the fact that the players association website also uses it means this name was used. What benefit comes from deletion? No-one will see this except people clicking "what links here" or people searching this. A7V2 (talk) 23:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't remotely see how WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS applies. Everything I've argued complies with the guidance at Redirect, including WP:RDELETE and WP:RNEUTRAL. Nothing I've said is leading ahead of the sources; the reliable sources that call him "Ernie" (and in-fact there are old newspaper columns dating to the 1940s that do so, so this isn't remotely new). I wasn't able to find that archive you linked to because the domain had changed; I've now updated the link in the article. This means the one reliable source is dead but is accessible through an archive, so it can be verified. Note that WP:RNEUTRAL requires multiple reliable sources, not just one. However, the updated ESPN page also calls him "Ernie", so even the one reliable source we have has moved on. – Scyrme (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ""Non-neutral" and "offensive" are two different matters", "That casual racists with no self-awareness have used this term in informal contexts does not mean this redirect should be kept." - this is why I mentioned rightgreatwrongs. I'm not going to go into the reasons for this as they may be incorrect (and perhaps not WP:AGF on my part) but I think are obvious enough (in terms of my interpretation of what you were saying). In any case I apologise for that. That all said, I don't believe that a reliable source using this name in the past would be for no reason. Given there is no actual benefit from deletion advanced thus far (how can something no-one will see be offensive?) we should keep this as a valid search term. I don't agree that WP:RFD applies either since my reading of it is that the redirect would need to be offensive to the person, and there is no evidence of that here. A7V2 (talk) 23:14, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that it only has to be a offensive to the subject of the article to qualify, that's just the example given, but I can understand why you might read it that way since the guidance doesn't explicitly say anything either way. Unless there's guidance elsewhere which affirms one interpretation over the other, I think we're stuck here. Best to get more opinions. – Scyrme (talk) 23:40, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of coverage in reliable sources. I have no problem in principle with redirects containing profanity or slurs. However: does not appear to be a reliable source, and a since-revised database entry is not enough coverage to justify a potentially inflammatory redirect.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete there appears to be no reliable source for the nickname let alone one that would justify it as a redirect.Skeene88 (talk) 15:18, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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Game hacks
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget.


 * Keep Game hacks
 * Retarget Game Hacking to Cheating in video games and then move to Game hacking without leaving a redirect. Legoktm (talk) 03:16, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Game hacks → Cheating in video games (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Game Hacking → Video game exploit (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These should probably target the same article. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:31, 13 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:37, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to Cheating in video games. Exploits are simply features of games that are taken advantage of. Cheating can involve actually hacking the game, and 'hack' appears several times on the cheating page. Therefore it is the more suitable target imo. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  21:03, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Cheating in video games: Per El Cid. Also it seems that exploits are more glitches, not hacks. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 22:52, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Game hacks. Delete Game Hacking as badly capitalised. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note - I had the same thought, but there is no Game hacking page... I guess we can create one based upon the outcome of this discussion. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  13:29, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 09:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hacking as R from incomplete dab and add Cheating in video games there, given how there's also ROM hacking, where you hack games to add extra content (and not cheat). — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:40, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Cheating in video games or potentially create one as a DAB considering it could also refer to ROM hacking. I don't think retargeting to hacking as R from incomplete dab is the best option here since this doesn't refer to hacking in general but hacking specifically relating to games. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep game hacks as mentioned in article, Delete Game Hacking. Add video game modding and ROM hacking to the See also  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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The million dollar shot
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Israei beer
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Salam
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to As-salamu alaykum. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Salam → Salaam (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

 was retargeted to As-salamu alaykum as a result of. I think the same argument I presented at that RM applies to this redirect as well. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 04:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to As-salamu alaykum. سَلَام is often transliterated as "Salam" rather than "Salaam" (including in the article As-salamu alaykum). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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Alabama Supercomputer Network
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 23:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Alabama Supercomputer Network → Cummings Research Park (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Asc.edu → Cummings Research Park (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the redirect target and I can't think of a way it could be without starting a slippery slope of spam, per the edit that removed it from the target (I'd ping the user who made the edit, but they're inactive). The only links/mentions are on IP talk pages and discussion about them. Graham 87 04:12, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Alabama Supercomputer Network seems to be also known as the Alabama Supercomputer Authority, which is a state agency. It is plausible sources could be found to establish notability as an independent topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't think the 200+ IP talk pages have discussion about Alabama Supercomputer Network, but were added as part of a notification via Shared IP edu. I do not know if the mention there will become redlinks after deletion, or become bolded black text. Courtesy ping to see if he knows more.  Jay  💬 06:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDYES. Not sure what the article would be titled exactly, but the subject appears notable, I quickly found and  as sources. Legoktm (talk) 03:23, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Disambiguated Three Worlds Cycle plot points
<span id="Minis (Well of Echoes)"> <span id="Minis (Well Of Echoes)"> <span id="Ullii (Well of Echoes)"> <span id="Ullii (Well Of Echoes)"> <span id="Ryll (Well of Echoes)"> <span id="Ryll (Well Of Echoes)"> <span id="Seeker (Well of Echoes)"> <span id="Seeker (Well Of Echoes)"> <span id="Nish (Well Of Echoes)"> <span id="Nish (Well of Echoes)"> <span id="Tensor (The View from the Mirror)"> <span id="Tensor (The View From The Mirror)"> <span id="Lilis (View from the Mirror)"> <span id="Lilis (View From the Mirror)"> <span id="Shand (View from the Mirror)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4%23Disambiguated Three Worlds Cycle plot points

Scrutators
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Mirror of Aachan
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Fiz Gorgo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Fiz Gorgo → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. If the pre-BLAR content were to be merged, the probable target would be the island where the fort is located, Meldorin Island, on which there is no article. Jay  💬 03:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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Elienor
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Selial
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Selial → Ian Irvine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another split-off from Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19 that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. If the pre-BLAR content were to be merged, the probable target would be The View from the Mirror, which also is a BLAR whose last best revision does not mention Selial as a main character. Jay  💬 03:06, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
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