Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 4

October 4
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 4, 2022.

Anti-white racism
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 12%23Anti-white racism

Fair share
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Fair share

Plates of meat
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Rhyming slang.  Jay  💬 03:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Plates of meat → Foot (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target articles. Seems this may be some sort of slang, but anyone looking for a non-slang topic via this term, probably a subject related to Meat, is in for a surprise. Steel1943 (talk) 20:07, 27 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Rhyming slang (plates of meat = feet, my old china). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Rhyming slang: Per Shhhnotsoloud and it is mentioned there TartarTorte 01:19, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
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הוהי
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 00:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * הוהי → Tetragrammaton (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is backwards from the correct Hebrew for the Tetragrammaton. Because Hebrew is read right-to-left this transcribes as HWHY. Tartar</b>Torte 19:58, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Searching that exact term returns 113,000 results on my end, however many of them actually spell it the right way around and it only appears mirrored in page titles and, consequently, page results. I suspect this is due to some technical issue with rendering RTL text on some sites or in file names (since many of the results are links to PDF files). I don't know if that translates into it actually being a helpful redirect to anyone though. Conceivably someone could copy and paste it from a file name, not noticing that it's backwards, but that's probably a stretch. – Scyrme (talk) 20:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep given the ubiquity of RTL errors, even on major sites. (Anyone who's ever seen how Discord interacts with my nick on the Wikimedia community server can attest to this.) I think there'd be a WP:PANDORA situation if we expanded this to all RTL terms, but for a limited number of well-known ones, especially ones sometimes used in contexts beyond RTL languages, I think it's reasonable. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 23:07, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Michael E. Arth 2020 presidential campaign
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 23:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Michael E. Arth 2020 presidential campaign → 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article as the campaigns seemed thoroughly non-notable. Also Arth does not appear to be mentioned anywhere on enwiki in connection to the 2020 presidential election (though he is mentioned elsewhere). See WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 25 which had the similarly titled Michael E. Arth presidential campaign, 2020, and from where I have copied the deletion rationale. Jay 💬 18:37, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Not mentioned on wikipedia with regards to the 2020 election, so there is no appropriate target. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 19:13, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and prior consensus. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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Velaric
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Airstream mechanism.  Jay  💬 03:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Velaric → Ingressive sound (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This adjective refers to concepts related to velar consonants, and is not restricted to sounds (there is even a  too). 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:44, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Yes, agreed that redirecting velaric to ingressive sound is a sort of strange choice. But I think velaric airstream might also be worth considering as the redirect target. Umimmak (talk) 17:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That seems like a good solution, thanks. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * But Velaric airstream is not an article, but another redirect that points to Airstream mechanism. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:06, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Airstream_mechanism. This gets around the double redirect issue, and is probably what a reader is looking for when they type Velaric. 2601:647:5800:4D2:F987:287:3565:55AE (talk) 04:21, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:LTU
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to WikiProject Lithuania.  Jay  💬 03:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * LTU → Wikipedia:List of templates by usage (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The current redirect leads to the inactive ex-technical page List of templates by usage, that was wiped in 2011. LTU is one of the country codes of Lithuania, and as such is a rudimentary search option when looking for the WikiProject Lithuania. Respublik (talk) 14:35, 27 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nominator wants this retargeted WikiProject Lithuania. I fixed the nomination where the proposed target was listed next to the arrow instead of the current target, but I didn't want to alter someone's statement, so I am adding this here. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 14:39, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget. We should always be very careful about retargetting shortcut redirects as the potential for harm from changing the meaning of discussions, edit summaries etc is high. In this case there are no incomming links other than in lists of shortcuts and similar, the target page has been historical for more than a decade, there is a clear and logical other target, the current target is not the sort of page that is likely to widely referred to in edit summaries and it gets few page views. All together this means the likelihood of harm from retarggeting is much lower than the average shortcut and there will be a clear benefit to the retargetting. Thryduulf (talk) 16:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Or it could become a DAB.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 07:58, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Shortcut disambigs are almost always the worst of all worlds given that they don't act as shortcuts to any of the listed topics. In this case, we have two targets one of which is a page that has been historical for over a decade and attracted all-but no incomming links across title and shortcut that have survived to the present day, the other is an active Wikiproject for a contemporary country. If the link to the defunct list needs to be preserved then a hatnote at the Lithuania project page will be very significantly better. Thryduulf (talk) 08:14, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If WikiProject Lithuania would like to Retarget it to their WikiProject, I support it. A hatnote per Thryduulf should be more than sufficient. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 16:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: The nominated redirect was not tagged until today. Steel1943  (talk) 18:37, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Retarget to the Lithuania wikiproject. Although this is a longstanding shortcut the page it links to has been defunct for a long time, there are no links to it, and it's unlikely to have got much use outside Wikipedia.  Hut 8.5  18:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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History of Bingo
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Legoktm (talk) 03:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * History of Bingo → Bingo (American version) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Bingo (British version) also exists, so this redirect is ambiguous. However, this redirect is a R with history. Steel1943 (talk) 17:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 18:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambig. This is a very plausible search term for someone who doesn't know that there are multiple versions of the game that don't share a history (e.g. me before seeing this nomination). Thryduulf (talk) 08:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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Power(physics)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 18:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Power(physics)">Power(physics) → Power (physics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to no space between disambiguator and rest of title. The properly spaced title variant is the target. Steel1943 (talk) 18:14, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:30, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete this error (WP:COSTLY). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:52, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Orange team
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Orange team

List of Paper Mario series characters
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 12%23List of Paper Mario series characters

Narrowing (computer science)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Narrowing (computer science)

K16DO
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23K16DO

Catholic law
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Catholic law

What is the capital of West Germany
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . It's snowing.  ✗  plicit  06:51, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * What is the capital of West Germany → Bonn (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unconventional formatting of the title, likely clutters search results. Wikipedia is also not the place to search such a question like this; otherwise we'd have billions of these. This is also not a particularly popular or notable question to ask to justify keeping this redirect specifically. Complex / Rational 16:52, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTFAQ. Steel1943  (talk) 19:15, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't Jeopardy, there's no need for redirects in the form of questions. Also, "is" is incorrect, as West Germany has been a dead country for over 30 years at this point. MightyArms (talk) 20:08, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We do not need question redirects. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:44, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: There seem to be Jeopardy! style redirects created from time-to-time, but they are pretty much never kept as they are of limited utility as implausible search terms. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 02:29, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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What is the capital of East Germany
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . It's snowing.  ✗  plicit  06:51, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * What is the capital of East Germany → East Berlin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unconventional formatting of the title, likely clutters search results. Wikipedia is also not the place to search such a question like this; otherwise we'd have billions of these. This is also not a particularly popular or notable question to ask to justify keeping this redirect specifically. Complex / Rational 16:52, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTFAQ. Steel1943  (talk) 19:16, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't Jeopardy, there's no need for redirects in the form of questions. Also, "is" is incorrect, as East Germany has been a dead country for over 30 years at this point. MightyArms (talk) 20:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 07:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unwarranted question redirect. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per above. Jeopardy! style redirects are of limited utility. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 03:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Zciweisakul notation
<span id="Zciweisakuł notation"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Zciweisakul notation

Dire, Dire Docks
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Legoktm (talk) 01:38, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Dire, Dire Docks">Dire, Dire Docks → Super Mario 64 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wet-Dry World → Super Mario 64 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These 2 levels are from this game. There is no mention of these levels in the article and it would probably be WP:GAMECRUFT to add a mention. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe retarget Dire, Dire Docks to Camille and Kennerly Kitt? Jay  💬 17:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. Don't retarget Dire, Dire Docks to Camille and Kennerly Kitt since the mention is a cover of the song, not the original, meaning readers looking up this term are most likely not intending to go to Camille and Kennerly Kitt. Steel1943  (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Jolly Roger Bay
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Jolly Roger Bay

John Sanz Terre
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 17:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * John Sanz Terre → John, King of England (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * John sanz Terre → John, King of England (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * John Sanzterre → John, King of England (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Weird combination of John's English first name and Norman surname that would be unlikely to be searched for as it currently is. His English equivalent name is "John Lackland" and the Norman version of his name is "Johan Sanz Terre" <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 13:15, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete "John Lackland" is a recognised nickname for the target, but this partial translation seems to get almost no usage.  Hut 8.5  19:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hoot the Owl
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 12%23Hoot the Owl

Eyerok
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 17:01, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Eyerok → Super Mario 64 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A minor boss from Super Mario 64. No mention in article and maybe WP:GAMECRUFT warrant a mention. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 13:03, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Inverted Room
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 16:56, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Inverted Room → Super Mario 64 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of this “Inverted Room” in the article. There is also a ton of plausible targets relating to Inverted Rooms. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 12:39, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Foreign language redirects to Denmark
<span id="Danmörk"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 11%23Foreign language redirects to Denmark

Pork markets
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . However note that the redirect was refined to Liz Truss while the discussion was in progress.  Jay  💬 03:08, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Pork markets → Liz Truss (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention at target page. —Bagumba (talk) 16:08, 9 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 17:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is more of an argument to improve the Liz Truss article, rather than delete the redirect, which is the most (in)famous phrase from one of her most (in)famous speeches. Bazonka (talk) 16:56, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The article has now been updated to include this information. Bazonka (talk) 18:32, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Liz Truss didn't coin the phrase "pork markets", so redirecting it to her because she included the phrase in a speech is bizarre. It'd be like redirecting "apples" to Liz Truss because she used the term in the same ridiculous speech; likewise redirecting "imported cheese" because it's how the media concisely refers to (an arguably more infamous) part of that speech. That speech had a lot of ridiculous moments, like proudly declaring Yorkshire Tea is a British export (when it's grown in India), but her use of the English language wasn't what made those moments infamous or memorable. – Scyrme (talk) 19:31, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is a pretty infamous quote from Liz Truss; however, I say that as someone who despite being American spends far too much time following Westminster. Without a mention on the page and with possible ambiguity (although there is no current target article) for pork market, I feel like I am wavering on this one. I'm not sure how a mention of her quote about opening new pork markets in Beijing and the notable lack of audience response at the Tory conference would best fit into the article. I don't think that she's said enough weird things to have a page like Bushism where you could retarget this. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:00, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous. In addition to the context from the Truss meme (a foreign market for pork products), it could refer to meat markets, Lean Hog (pork futures), and probably other items. Disambiguation wouldn't be appropriate, because it's such a vague term. - Eureka Lott 18:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A disambiguation page only needs to cover content that actually has an article, not every conceivable referent. I doubt there's that many articles to which "pork market" could refer.
 * The term isn't really all that vague. Most people searching for "pork market" are probably looking for (a specialist) meat market. Unfortunately that article is a stub (but it being a stub is all the more reason to make it easier to find; more likely someone will add something to it). Meat market doesn't presently mention the phrase, but its relevance as a related topic is self-evident and a line mentioning the existence of "markets specialising in beef, pork, etc." could easily be added to make things a bit more explicit. I could also see people searching for speculation on pork prices, ie. Lean Hog. Per WP:TWODABS, that's enough for a disambiguation page.
 * As far as I know, those are the only two; using the search tool I wasn't able to find anything else that wasn't too specific to be relevant (like 2008 Irish pork crisis). The German-language Wikipedia has a disambiguation page for "Schweinemarkt" which lists three places by that name, none of which have English-language articles; even if they did, their names probably wouldn't be translated so they wouldn't be included in a disambiguation page for "pork market". Conceivably an article could be created for Pork industry which might add another plausible target, but that article does not exist yet. I don't really see this disambiguation page being overwhelmed by listing too many articles. – Scyrme (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to allow uninhibited search. Too vague to disambiguate I think but I suppose it's an option. A7V2 (talk) 00:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between "Meat markets which specialise in selling pork" and "Lean Hog, speculation on pork prices" at pork market and retarget pork markets there. The phrase is common enough, its everyday meaning is obvious, it is attested in reliable sources (per Google Scholar), and it is used on a number of Wikipedia articles which refer to either of these topics. Disambiguation only needs to cover articles that actually exist, not all conceivable uses, so I don't see how this is "too vague". Liz Truss needn't be mentioned. – Scyrme (talk) 20:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 18:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Scryme. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Either redirect to Lean Hog, covering the futures trade in the US, or Disambiguate per Scryme. Are there in fact any "Meat markets which specialise in selling pork"? Where? In the UK we used to have pork butchers, but never afaik whole markets of them. Johnbod (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know about permanent markets, but there are pork festivals with pop up meat markets specialising in various forms of pork and pork dishes. eg. in Semarang, Indonesia, 2017; at Karlín Market, Prague, Czechia, 2021 Lots of stalls all selling sausages, hams, bacon, tripe, pork-based soups, various cuts of pig, etc.
 * Additionally, Meat market reads: A butcher specializes in the preparation and sale of meat. Butchers sometimes operate specialized shops selling meat, known as butcher's shops, meat stores, meat markets or butcheries so "meat market" (and by extension, "pork market") doesn't need to imply many shops/stalls; at least, not in according to the article as it is presently written. – Scyrme (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not convinced. A google search finds only financial results. You say above "The phrase is common enough", but I don't find it so at all. If we had a better global article on pig meat trading I'd go for that, but it seems we don't. Johnbod (talk) 16:35, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * When I said the "the phrase is common enough" I meant in all its senses, including financial. Hundreds of thousands of results, even if mostly financial, seems "common enough" to me. (Also, many of the economically-focused results don't refer to speculation on prices but to the collective consumer market internationally or in a particular country [such as this news article], ie. to the sale of pork products; if you know a better target for that than Meat market, I don't object to including it in the disambiguation page. There's Meat industry but that seems focused on production and distribution more than consumer sales so it may surprise people redirected there.) – Scyrme (talk) 16:59, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Ok with redirecting to Meat industry, or dabbing. We say "A meat market is, traditionally, a marketplace where meat is sold, often by a butcher. It is a specialized wet market." I must say I've never heard of such a thing, called a pork market. Continental ones would be referred to as charcuterie markets I think. Johnbod (talk) 04:23, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: One more relist to solidify consensus… Should this be kept, deleted or disambiguated? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Dabify per Scyrme -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:23, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect is ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:04, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Either disambiguate or keep. I suspect someone searching for the term is very likely looking for the Liz Truss quote - if I Google "pork markets" in the UK only one of the first 20 hits isn't related to it. But I'm happy with a disambiguation page if it's likely to confuse people from other places.  Hut 8.5  19:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Channel nine
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Channel 9 per WP:JUSTDOIT. Not controversial at all. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 02:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Channel nine → Nine Network (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect page should redirect to Channel 9 because Channel nine is the word form of Channel 9 so can someone please retarget this redirect page from the Nine Network page to the Channel 9 page. Bassie f (talk) 01:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Channel 9: I don't disagree, but for non-contentious changes like this I think you can generally just be bold and do them yourself without coming to RfD. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 01:50, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Tailsmo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 02:53, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Tailsmo → Sonic X (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

100% a ship name and WP:FANCRUFT. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 00:19, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague at best. I can't find a decent primary topic after a google search. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:14, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hard delete. MightyArms (talk) 20:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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Sonic X Generation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 02:50, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Sonic X Generation → Sonic X (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be a fan comic. Delete per WP:FANCRUFT! <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 00:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
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