Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 9

October 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 9, 2022.

GRÜNE
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 17%23GRÜNE

Betty Windsor
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 16%23Betty Windsor

Friedrich von Friedeburg
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Friedrich von Friedeburg → de:Friedrich von Friedeburg (General, 1866) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:SOFTREDIRECT, Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they are generally unhelpful to English-language readers. Jalen Folf  (talk)  16:16, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above – QueenofBithynia (talk) 19:14, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: It is pretty not helpful to have a redirect to a German article as it's unreasonable to assume all readers on the English wiki can speak German. TartarTorte 20:39, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:39, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:11, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. A7V2 (talk) 01:29, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete because we generally avoid soft redirects to other language wikis. I suggest making this a speedy deletion criterion. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 01:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Muhandes (talk) 09:39, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Savo-Mar
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Savo-Mar → Sacomar, Angola (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the (entirely unreferenced) target article, and I couldn't confirm that this exists in the real world using a cursory Google search. Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 13:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect also exists on the Portuguese Wikipedia, where the target Sacomar begins "" which Google translate renders as "", cited to . That's now a 404 but the Internet Archive has a copy which verifies the "Saco-Mar" spelling but not "Savo-Mar". The only other place I can find this spelling, other than usernames, OCR errors/collocations (usually something called or abbreviated "Savo" followed by the abbreviation for "March") and derivatives of this redirect is the Malay Wikipedia article where it is the article title. I note no affinity between Angola and the Malay language. Thryduulf (talk) 14:15, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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6.8.5 Daco-Romania
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 16%236.8.5 Daco-Romania

Rromania
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Rromania → Romania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems a rather implausible misspelling, and I don't think I'm alone in thinking that - in 2011 an IP editor left a note on the talk page saying "I propose the deletion of this page!". Thryduulf (talk) 11:55, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.Tom Radulovich (talk) 18:12, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Implausible misspelling. CycloneYoris talk! 23:48, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: This seems to have some history related to an anti-Roma slur when not just an inadvertent misspelling, but regardless this redirect seems to be not helpful. TartarTorte 01:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:41, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. 2011 anon was right too -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:39, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Well viewed but yeah this is nevertheless a rare term which looks to be related to some pretty damn obvious racism.  J947  † edits 06:11, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Implausible misspelling. --Muhandes (talk) 07:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:American Engilsh
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Legoktm (talk) 00:32, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Template:American Engilsh → Template:American English (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused template redirect and while not a horribly implausible typo if it were in article space, it seems less useful in template space especially as it is unused. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 19:43, 25 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:40, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:54, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirects tagged with r from misspelling are regularly automatically corrected, I believe, so I wouldn't take the lack of use as direct evidence. It's not a super common typo, but also couldn't really point to anything else, so it comes down to what our standards say about when it's okay to have redirects from typos, and I'll defer to others on that. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 22:03, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Implausible typo in template space. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:42, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. It was no doubt created because someone found this template typo in actual usage. Redirects are cheap. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 09:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 11:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Moving to a !vote, per WP:CHEAP. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 18:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete as a template with no transclusions and with insignificant page views. The only links are those related to this discussion. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 00:48, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, we don't have Engilsh either. And this is template space, used by editors with some meta knowledge. Typos during a quick search is not the biggest of their problems while working on templates. Jay  💬 15:19, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Amine (singer)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 18%23Amine (singer)

Extras (tv)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 16%23Extras (tv)

The Extras
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 16%23The Extras

Boston USA
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Boston.  ✗  plicit  12:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Boston USA → Pink Floyd bootleg recordings (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * <span id="Boston, USA">Boston, USA → Boston (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not convinced a Pink Floyd bootleg is the primary topic for "Boston USA". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, especially as the bootleg recording merits only a list entry in the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 10:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Boston: I can find very little even referencing said bootleg. Searching google for "Boston USA" + bootleg, I got a number of other bands before coming across Pink Floyd. Regardless, this doesn't seem to be a good enough example of WP:DIFFPUNCT to redirect to such different targets. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 01:59, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Boston per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Boston per above. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:12, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps DAB as I'm not sure the city is primary for these terms but then again the bootleg is probably too surprising to find for many readers.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 06:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Boston. Google searches show that Boston is the primary topic for "Boston USA". FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 01:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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Belly Squad
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  12:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Belly Squad → Young T & Bugsey (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:RDELETE reasons 2 and 10. The redirect is confusing since Belly Squad and Young T & Bugsey are different groups with unclear relation. The redirect can plausibly be expanded into an article and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject. Muhandes (talk) 09:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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Honeydew (color)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Shades of green.  Jay  💬 09:48, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Honeydew (color)">Honeydew (color) → Spring green (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The color is no longer mentioned at the target, but instead at Shades_of_green. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 08:13, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. I'd have been tempted to do that boldly had I come across it. Thryduulf (talk) 09:15, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom and Thryduulf. It's time we updated the target to help our readers, now that the information has been moved somewhere else. Regards, SONIC 678 19:14, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Template:R from codename
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Legoktm (talk) 00:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Template:R from codename → Template:R from former name (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:R codename → Template:R from former name (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Template:R from code name → Template:R from code (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not an intuitive target. Should either be Template:R from alternative name or deleted as overspecific. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 09:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 09:39, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: For what it's worth, this redirect currently has no transclusions, so deleting or retargeting shouldn't break anything. Steel1943  (talk) 13:34, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Template:R from alternative name, as the most appropriate target. I have to agree that the current arrangement does not make sense, as code names are not "former names", but merely more obscure names generally referring to a military operation. Furthermore, I see that the similar redirects Template:R from code name and Template:R codename currently point to Template:R from code and Template:R from former name, respectively. These should also be changed and point to my proposed target. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 16:03, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per . I'm convinced by the argument that these redirects are ambiguous, as code names are not necessarily former (or obsolete) names. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 12:59, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Both of those bundled. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 18:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:32, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Per Tamzin, delete (1st preference) or retarget to Template:R from alternative name. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:02, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: The target is in my view ambiguous as a codename can be a former name (for example, Microsoft Vista was referred to by the codename of Longhorn, but since the announcement of the name Vista, Longhorn had become obsolete enough to become a former name; however, there are also other codenames, like "Operation Iraqi Freedom", which is still used to refer to the Iraq War enough that it works more as an alternative name. In summary, this is essentially an WP:XY. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 12:47, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per TartarTorte who has explained with examples why the current target as well as suggested targets are not suitable. Jay  💬 09:26, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Too ambiguous to use as template redirects. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:18, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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Monster Thickburger
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:47, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Monster Thickburger → Hardee's (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Thickburger → Hardee's (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Monster Burger → Hardee's (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving readers without finding any information about these topics. However, Monster Thickburger is a R with history. Steel1943 (talk) 16:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * "The (original) 'Monster Burger' was one of our most popular menu items," Brad Haley, executive vice president of marketing for Hardee's, said in a statement. "(But) it's now a 'Thickburger.'"
 * Jokestress (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Content was merged into the target but was removed by as promotional. Content may be added back in a non-promotional way, or restore and take to Afd for a possible re-merge. Another article where this may be added is Burger wars.  Jay  💬 07:55, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Quaker City Night Hawks
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 16