Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 13

September 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 13, 2022.

Barney the DInosaur
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Barney the DInosaur

Cowboys
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 02:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Cowboys → Cowboy (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Cowboys should redirect to Cowboy per WP:PLURALPT. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:53, 30 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 17:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: There's enough specific matches on that page for Cowboys that I feel this part of WP:PLURALPT applies the intentional use of a plural form by a reader or editor can be evidence that a separate primary topic exists at the plural form. TartarTorte 17:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 18:15, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per User:TartarTorte, and per football fans.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:01, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep due to American football. Steel1943  (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget as proposed. This is not the rare enough situation where the plural does not follow the singular. BD2412  T 16:45, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per TartarTorte and WP:PLURALPT. Users using the plural are more likely to be seeking one of the entries at the dab than the cowboy article. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Searching Google from Australia this term seems to have much greater affinity with the North Queensland Cowboys and the Dallas Cowboys than with Cowboy so linking to the disambiguation page seems appropriate. A7V2 (talk) 05:32, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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White noise (slang)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to White noise.  Jay  💬 02:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * White noise (slang) → White noise (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There doesn’t seem to be any meaningful use of the subtopic “slang” in the redirected article; I don’t see this as a plausible redirect. If nothing else it’s confusing and uninformative to the average reader. Dronebogus (talk) 11:54, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: There was an AfD for this that was closed as merge but then in the merging process was made into a redirect instead. Either the merge should be completed as a merge or this should be deleted. TartarTorte 12:55, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 17:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is a (link to AfD), and therefore should be kept for history attribution purposes. The current article contains a sentence taken from the pre-redirect version (the text of ref #6 which includes the quote "The political rhetoric on Social Security is white noise.")
 * I would note that the AfD nominator proceeded to turn the page into a redirect with an "unnecessary disambiguation" tag and an edit summary that no merge was required six minutes after the AfD closure. I am aware that AfD closes as "merge" are hard to implement if the closer did not give clear instructions, but still, I think it was a bit high-handed.  Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 15:01, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 18:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget to White noise. I just inserted that section, to complete the merge.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:21, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Refine to White noise. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Refine to the newly written White noise per Anythingyouwant. A7V2 (talk) 05:38, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Userwork
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Template:Userwork

Amit Goswami
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Amit Goswami

Vibrating plane
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Glossary of spirituality terms where it is mentioned. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Vibrating plane → Plane (esotericism) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:29, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget Glossary of spirituality terms. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:13, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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Reality shift
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Reality shift

Untitled The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:53, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Untitled The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel → The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect is not useful because game has a name already Ebbedlila (talk) 16:06, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - The game has been in development for like 3-4 years, and was given its final name 2 hours ago. There's going to be people who don't know the new title yet. The redirect will still be useful to people not glued to the video game news cycle. Sergecross73   msg me  16:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Wait a few months for the name to be better-known first. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:35, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sergecross73. Many people will be coming to this article to find out whether it has a final name yet, we should not require they already know the answer before they can find the answer. For future reference though, the word "Untitled" should never have been part of this article title to begin with "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel" or "nth The Legend of Zelda series video game" would have been equally correct both before and after naming. Thryduulf (talk) 14:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Risk of link rot is possible, as the article has been with this name since 3-4 years. Also redirects are cheap. <span style="font-size:90%;padding:.4em .4em .2em;background:#c0e5ff;color:black;font-weight:bold;border-radius:0.25rem">Hans5958 <sup style="vertical-align:.05rem">talk 15:49, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Extant
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:53, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Template:Extant → Template:COI editnotice (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unused shortcut; created with the comment "Template:Extant organization" is an existing redirect to. "Extant" is applied to many other nouns as well, so this just seems confusing. See also Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 10 (ping User:Thryduulf). 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 14:00, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. My comment in the linked discussion applies here too - in the absence of any evidence this is actually causing any problems (not just that it theoretically might cause problems) there is no reason to delete and no benefits will arise from doing so. I'm weak here because it is unused and so unlike with template:Ext deletion is unlikely to actually cause any harm. Thryduulf (talk) 12:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: As it doesn't seem to be transcluded anywhere and the naming is not particularly easy to follow, it seems like deletion wouldn't do much harm <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 02:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Masters of Teraes Kaesi
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Masters of Teraes Kaesi → Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Eubot diacritic redirect that's a pretty obvious misfire. The inspiration for this name was Finnish, not German, so the umlaut-e rule doesn't apply. It's unused, gets essentially no page views, and absolutely no sources ever use this spelling, so it's actively misleading to have this here. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 13:41, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:21, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as useless. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Heroscape
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Trolticor (Heroscape)">Trolticor (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Doggin (Heroscape)">Doggin (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Fiantooth (Heroscape)">Fiantooth (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Moltarns (Heroscape)">Moltarns (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Trons (Heroscape)">Trons (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Black Knight (Heroscape)">Black Knight (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Trolls (Heroscape)">Trolls (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Agents (Heroscape)">Agents (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dreadgul Vikings (Heroscape)">Dreadgul Vikings (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Gryphillin (Heroscape)">Gryphillin (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Minutemen (Heroscape)">Minutemen (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Knights Templar (Heroscape)">Knights Templar (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tarn Vikings → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dzu-Teh (Heroscape)">Dzu-Teh (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="GIs (Heroscape)">GIs (Heroscape) → Heroscape (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I may add other examples here in a moment, but there are a series of redirects to Heroscape that are not notable in the slightest (e.g. there may be one figure in the entire game of that species of faction). As such, they are not listed at the target page. Requesting delete. TNstingray (talk) 12:58, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment. These were originally submitted separately, but I have condensed them under one heading. There are actually a lot of redirects to the Heroscape, seemingly made by an over-zealous fan back in the day (link here for your convenience). I feel like most of these can actually be deleted (besides the alternate spellings for the game and maybe the Kyrie generals), though I listed the most obvious examples. Is there any way to access page view data to find out for certain if these are even in use? TNstingray (talk) 13:15, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @TNstingray to see the page view data for these redirects click the "stats" link next to it above. Thryduulf (talk) 15:03, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all. a) they are not mentioned at the target and as such provide no use to a Heroscape fan who wants to read about these guys; and b) quite a few of these include unneeded DABs - ex. there is no Moltarns page so Moltarns (Heroscape) is just taking up extra real estate. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  14:34, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * There are about two dozen more that fall into that category, and I'm fairly certain that all of them trace back to one over-zealous editor who made these separate non-notable lore pages before they were all turned into redirects. The editor in question is not longer active. Even in the game itself, the character lore is really not important or expanded upon at all other than the seven Archkyrie Generals. As such, some of the remaining links may only be referring to vague lists of factions in each army, if that makes sense. Should I go ahead and list these redirects here, or should I start another section (since these technically are mentioned at the target, albeit in passing mention rather that actual information for a prospective fan)? TNstingray (talk) 20:03, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per TNstingray. They aren't mentioned at the target and they are unlikely search terms. Jontesta (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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Tolyltriazole
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20%23Tolyltriazole

Diffabled
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 02:40, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Somewhat offensive slang word for disabled, from "differently abled", Not mentioned in target. We could possibly consider this a misspelling of disabled, but that is a stretch. This is a newspaper that actually used it in a headline. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 02:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Diffabled → Disability (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Diffability → Disability (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Comment. There is no Wiktionary entry at diffabled but there is at diffability which does not mention offensiveness. From a few minutes on google and twitter, it seems that the intention of both coinages was positive and "diffability" is generally not regarded as being offensive. Opinions regarding "diffabled", even among those to whom it applies, range from being very positive to very negative - some find it offensive others find it empowering. Thryduulf (talk) 09:05, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - I do not see evidence that it is in wide use, but 'differently abled' redirects to disability, and if we agree that diffabled refers to 'differently abled', then I see no problem with keeping the redirects, especially if there is no agreement in sources that the term is offensive. In fact, 'differently abled' is typically a more acceptable way of saying 'disabled'.
 * ‡ El cid, el campeador talk  13:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep per most of El cid's comment (whether "differently abled" is more acceptable than "disabled" is something else that the people to whom it applies disagree about) and my earlier comment. Thryduulf (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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Литва́
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Litva.  Jay  💬 02:37, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Литва́">Литва́ → Lithuania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Литва">Литва → Lithuania (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is Lithuania in Bulgarian. Wikipedia is not a language translation dictionary. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 01:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Retarget. First choice to Litva (a dab page) which notes it is the name for Lithuania in multiple Slavic languages including Russian (with which there is an affinity) and the native Russian name for Litva, Kursk Oblast. There is also Litva, Brest Voblast in Belarus which is a country that also has a strong affinity with Russian. Second choice is targetting Litva, Kursk Oblast directly (it already has a hatnote to the disambig). Thryduulf (talk) 08:47, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Added (by the same creator) to the nomination, since that is the regular spelling of the term as used outside of dictionaries or other linguistic works where highlighting the pronunciation/stress is necessary. 1234qwer1234qwer4 11:51, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Confirming my recommendation above applies to both redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 19:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Litva, per Thryduulf and because it's explicitly mentioned there. Usually the best practice for foreign names of countries is to point them to the relevant "names of X" article (e.g. → Names of Germany,  → Names of China,  → Names of Vietnam), but in this case the same term has other meanings as well. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 20:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment "Литва" seems to be the page for Lithuania on the Bulgarian, Russian and Ukrainian Wikipedias, with the similar "Літва" for Belarussian. All of them except Bulgarian Wikipedia also have a disambiguation page for other terms. Per Thryduulf and IP I think the disambig would be a good target, since the term is explicitly mentioned there in Cyrillic. – DirkJandeGeer <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(5deg);middle:-.57em;">щи 08:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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Morbius (Film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . It may be the case that it was not worth the effort to bring this to RfD, but delete !voting editors have a substantial numeric majority, and I don't see a compelling reason to close in favor of a different outcome given that either side had arguments of roughly equal strength policy-wise. signed,Rosguill talk 16:52, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Morbius (Film)">Morbius (Film) → Morbius (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per longstanding consensus against miscapitalized disambiguators. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 01:26, 6 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as completely harmless and potentially helpful. Deletion offers absolutely no benefits. Thryduulf (talk) 01:35, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. Someone might hold the key for too long, plus it's unambiguous and can help readers get to their intended article. Regards,  SONIC   678   05:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless. Glades12 (talk) 15:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - if you type in "Morbius" to the search bar, both of them pop up - which one should be clicked first? Just seems a bit annoying.  originalmess  talk 08:52, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A very minor annoyance for some of a subset of readers (only those who use the internal search engine will see this, and not all of them will find it annoying) is not a reason to delete a redirect that helps other readers. Thryduulf (talk) 11:15, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This only helps the small minority of readers who a) search directly from the search bar, b) search using disambiguators, and c) don't know that we lowercase disambiguators. Meanwhile, for people trying to link to the film from the VisualEditor, both come up, a significantly greater concern. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 00:33, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Given that a reader following either link will arrive at the same article you're going to need to explain why it is concerning at all, let alone a greater concern than some readers failing to find what they want. Also, those arriving via the search bar are not the only ones who will benefit from this - e.g. anyone following a link also will. Thryduulf (talk) 08:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete : Comment While this could marginally help users I feel like going against longstanding consensus, which with I agree, could open up pandora's box to have many of these created. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 00:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have struck my delete !vote as this seems to be wikilawyering on my part upon reflection. I think my statement better serves as a comment than a !vote. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 00:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete It seems that searching for other film articles (e.g. 1920 (film)) in the internal search engine but intentionally capitalising the "f" in "film" sends you to the correct page, without a redirect. It doesn't do much harm, but it isn't needed as a redirect, and as Tamzin mentioned it could be confusing if you're linking to the film in visual editor/Updated source editor. Deleting it will make sure people use the correctly capitalised link – DirkJandeGeer <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(5deg);middle:-.57em;">щи 09:52, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Other redirects exist without confusing people in the visual editor why would this be? Why should we force everybody to use the "correct" link when either will get everybody to the exact same place? What benefits will accrue from that? Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Personally, I feel that all redirects brought to RfD that serve no purpose, i.e., should not have been created, should be deleted as a way of general cleanup, even if they are harmless. However, that is not within the principles of Rfd as a reason to delete. Incorrect capitalization in parenthetical disambiguation has even been specifically carved out from WP:RDAB. All that said, the nom is correct that such redirects have certainly been deleted at Rfd in the past. Such things should not depend on whoever shows up to Rfd at the time, we should strive to be consistent. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:36, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Merely redundant clutter for prospective readers and editors. TNstingray (talk) 23:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 13:20, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: classic WP:RDAB. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:16, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I note that despite multiple assertions that this is harmful, nobody has yet articulated how or why this is harmful in any way that is consistent with other redirects from other/incorrect capitalisations not being. Thryduulf (talk) 14:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as a recently created unnecessary redirect. This was created less than a month back when the properly cased disambiguator existed. The harm is not in this specific redirect, but to the project, if we continue encouraging such redirects. It is a waste of the editor's time and discussion time for all, as such nominations are driven by past precedent and not guideline. The redirect creator may have created 200 or 300 capitalization-related redirects (I just browsed through the contributions) in the last month alone, and continues to create them even though he was informed about the futility of this kind of work. Jay  💬 02:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What harm to the project? If the individual redirects are not harmful, then how can they be collectively harmful? Deletion discussions are not, and have never been, based on precedent they are based on the characteristics of the page being nominated so that's a red herring. The activity that wastes editor's time is nominating harmless redirects for discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Transit system (name of specific service)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:16, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="BART (Coliseum–Oakland International Airport line)">BART (Coliseum–Oakland International Airport line) → Coliseum–Oakland International Airport line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="BART (Dublin/Pleasanton–Daly City line)">BART (Dublin/Pleasanton–Daly City line) → Dublin/Pleasanton–Daly City line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="BART (Richmond–Millbrae+SFO line)">BART (Richmond–Millbrae+SFO line) → Richmond–Millbrae+SFO line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="BART (Berryessa/North San José–Daly City line)">BART (Berryessa/North San José–Daly City line) → Berryessa/North San José–Daly City line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="BART (Antioch–SFO+Millbrae line)">BART (Antioch–SFO+Millbrae line) → Antioch–SFO+Millbrae line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="BART (Berryessa/North San José–Richmond line)">BART (Berryessa/North San José–Richmond line) → Berryessa/North San José–Richmond line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Norristown High Speed Line)">SEPTA (Norristown High Speed Line) → Norristown High Speed Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Wilmington/Newark Line)">SEPTA (Wilmington/Newark Line) → Wilmington/Newark Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (West Trenton Line)">SEPTA (West Trenton Line) → West Trenton Line (SEPTA) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Warminster Line)">SEPTA (Warminster Line) → Warminster Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Trenton Line)">SEPTA (Trenton Line) → Trenton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Paoli/Thorndale Line)">SEPTA (Paoli/Thorndale Line) → Paoli/Thorndale Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Media/Elwyn Line)">SEPTA (Media/Elwyn Line) → Media/Wawa Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Manayunk/Norristown Line)">SEPTA (Manayunk/Norristown Line) → Manayunk/Norristown Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Lansdale/Doylestown Line)">SEPTA (Lansdale/Doylestown Line) → Lansdale/Doylestown Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Fox Chase Line)">SEPTA (Fox Chase Line) → Fox Chase Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Main Line)">SEPTA (Main Line) → SEPTA Main Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Cynwyd Line)">SEPTA (Cynwyd Line) → Cynwyd Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Chestnut Hill West Line)">SEPTA (Chestnut Hill West Line) → Chestnut Hill West Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Chestnut Hill East Line)">SEPTA (Chestnut Hill East Line) → Chestnut Hill East Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Airport Line)">SEPTA (Airport Line) → Airport Line (SEPTA) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (subway–surface trolley lines)">SEPTA (subway–surface trolley lines) → SEPTA subway–surface trolley lines (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Broad Street Line)">SEPTA (Broad Street Line) → Broad Street Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="SEPTA (Market–Frankford Line)">SEPTA (Market–Frankford Line) → Market–Frankford Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Raritan Valley Line)">NJ Transit (Raritan Valley Line) → Raritan Valley Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Princeton Branch)">NJ Transit (Princeton Branch) → Princeton Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Northeast Corridor Line)">NJ Transit (Northeast Corridor Line) → Northeast Corridor Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (North Jersey Coast Line)">NJ Transit (North Jersey Coast Line) → North Jersey Coast Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Atlantic City Line)">NJ Transit (Atlantic City Line) → Atlantic City Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Port Jervis Line)">NJ Transit (Port Jervis Line) → Port Jervis Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Pascack Valley Line)">NJ Transit (Pascack Valley Line) → Pascack Valley Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Gladstone Branch)">NJ Transit (Gladstone Branch) → Gladstone Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Morristown Line)">NJ Transit (Morristown Line) → Morristown Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Morris & Essex Lines)">NJ Transit (Morris & Essex Lines) → Morris & Essex Lines (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Montclair-Boonton Line)">NJ Transit (Montclair-Boonton Line) → Montclair-Boonton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Meadowlands Rail Line)">NJ Transit (Meadowlands Rail Line) → Meadowlands Rail Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Main Line)">NJ Transit (Main Line) → Main Line (NJ Transit) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="NJ Transit (Bergen County Line)">NJ Transit (Bergen County Line) → Bergen County Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (Port Jervis Line)">MNRR (Port Jervis Line) → Port Jervis Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (Pascack Valley Line)">MNRR (Pascack Valley Line) → Pascack Valley Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (Waterbury Branch)">MNRR (Waterbury Branch) → Waterbury Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (New Canaan Branch)">MNRR (New Canaan Branch) → New Canaan Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (Danbury Branch)">MNRR (Danbury Branch) → Danbury Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (New Haven Line)">MNRR (New Haven Line) → New Haven Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (Hudson Line)">MNRR (Hudson Line) → Hudson Line (Metro-North) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="MNRR (Harlem Line)">MNRR (Harlem Line) → Harlem Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (West Hempstead Branch)">LIRR (West Hempstead Branch) → West Hempstead Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Ronkonkoma Branch)">LIRR (Ronkonkoma Branch) → Ronkonkoma Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Port Washington Branch)">LIRR (Port Washington Branch) → Port Washington Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Port Jefferson Branch)">LIRR (Port Jefferson Branch) → Port Jefferson Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Oyster Bay Branch)">LIRR (Oyster Bay Branch) → Oyster Bay Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Long Beach Branch)">LIRR (Long Beach Branch) → Long Beach Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Hempstead Branch)">LIRR (Hempstead Branch) → Hempstead Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Far Rockaway Branch)">LIRR (Far Rockaway Branch) → Far Rockaway Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (City Terminal Zone)">LIRR (City Terminal Zone) → City Terminal Zone (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Central Branch)">LIRR (Central Branch) → Central Branch (Long Island Rail Road) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Belmont Park Branch)">LIRR (Belmont Park Branch) → Belmont Park station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Babylon Branch)">LIRR (Babylon Branch) → Babylon Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Montauk Branch)">LIRR (Montauk Branch) → Montauk Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Atlantic Branch)">LIRR (Atlantic Branch) → Atlantic Branch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LIRR (Main Line)">LIRR (Main Line) → Main Line (Long Island Rail Road) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Journal Square-33rd Street)">Path Train (Journal Square-33rd Street) → Journal Square–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Hoboken-33rd Street)">Path Train (Hoboken-33rd Street) → Hoboken–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Hoboken–World Trade Center)">Path Train (Hoboken–World Trade Center) → Hoboken–World Trade Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Hoboken–33rd Street)">Path Train (Hoboken–33rd Street) → Hoboken–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Journal Square-33rd Street via Hoboken)">Path Train (Journal Square-33rd Street via Hoboken) → Journal Square–33rd Street (via Hoboken) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Journal Square–33rd Street)">Path Train (Journal Square–33rd Street) → Journal Square–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Path Train (Newark–World Trade Center)">Path Train (Newark–World Trade Center) → Newark–World Trade Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH train (Journal Square–33rd Street via Hoboken)">PATH train (Journal Square–33rd Street via Hoboken) → Journal Square–33rd Street (via Hoboken) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH train (Hoboken–33rd Street)">PATH train (Hoboken–33rd Street) → Hoboken–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH train (Journal Square–33rd Street)">PATH train (Journal Square–33rd Street) → Journal Square–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH train (Hoboken–World Trade Center)">PATH train (Hoboken–World Trade Center) → Hoboken–World Trade Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH train (Newark–World Trade Center)">PATH train (Newark–World Trade Center) → Newark–World Trade Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH (Journal Square–33rd Street via Hoboken)">PATH (Journal Square–33rd Street via Hoboken) → Journal Square–33rd Street (via Hoboken) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH (Hoboken–33rd Street)">PATH (Hoboken–33rd Street) → Hoboken–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH (Journal Square–33rd Street)">PATH (Journal Square–33rd Street) → Journal Square–33rd Street (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH (Hoboken–World Trade Center)">PATH (Hoboken–World Trade Center) → Hoboken–World Trade Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="PATH (Newark–World Trade Center)">PATH (Newark–World Trade Center) → Newark–World Trade Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apologies for all of the batch nominations today. These all have the format of some public transit system followed by a parenthetical with one of its services, pointing to the page for the specific service. These redirects are useless because (for the most part) their titles already contain the full name of the target article, and the parentheticals are misleading (it leads to e.g. the Trenton Line of SEPTA, not the SEPTA of Trenton Line). Delete. eviolite  (talk)  04:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all: These are not how we use disambiguators. It's just a huge set of reverse disambiguators, which make them all prima facie implausble. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 13:36, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all More useless jailbroken iPod redirects. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:03, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Purple Line (MBTA [name] Line)
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Lowell Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Lowell Line) → Lowell Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Fitchburg Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Fitchburg Line) → Fitchburg Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Framingham/Worcester Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Framingham/Worcester Line) → Framingham/Worcester Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Needham Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Needham Line) → Needham Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Franklin Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Franklin Line) → Franklin Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Providence/Stoughton Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Providence/Stoughton Line) → Providence/Stoughton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Old Colony Lines)">Purple Line (MBTA Old Colony Lines) → Old Colony Lines (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Greenbush Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Greenbush Line) → Greenbush Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (MBTA Fairmount Line)">Purple Line (MBTA Fairmount Line) → Fairmount Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These lines are never referred to as the Purple Line for obvious reasons (they're all purple), and the redirects' titles contain the full name anyway, so they're useless. Delete. eviolite  (talk)  03:40, 13 September 2022 (UTC) Purple line - best line... Though we're a little biased, ourselves. ^ME 25 March 2020
 * Delete all All commuter rail on the MBTA is signed as purple, but these lines are not called the purple line, as they're all different lines. It's one of those scenarios where the entire name of the target article is included within the disambiguator and a distinct lack of common references for these being called the "purple line", show to me deletion will not cause much harm. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 12:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok upon further research, I did find this one tweet that makes me think that it might be possible called the purple line in that the MBTA Commuter Rail division sent out. Where they do use the term Purple Line, but if you follow the thread there is some context there where they're replying to a tweet where the MBTA names that line the purple line in parentheses showing it's not a common name. I still support deletion, but I'd be remiss if I didn't remark that I found this one counterexample, albeit not a strong one. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 12:47, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all All redirects created by this user (the indeffed jailbroken iPod) should be deleted, in my opinion. So many are pointless or cause confusion, as these do. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of something along that line, but there are some useful redirects created by said user. Maybe a compromise would be to have a way to CSD them instead of having to go through the full RfD process? That's a pretty specific CSD category proposal though. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 13:32, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

NYC Subway color lines
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Silver Line (IND Rockaway Line)">Silver Line (IND Rockaway Line) → IND Rockaway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Silver Line (Rockaway Line)">Silver Line (Rockaway Line) → IND Rockaway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Blue Line (Rockaway Line)">Blue Line (Rockaway Line) → IND Rockaway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Blue Line (IND Rockaway Line)">Blue Line (IND Rockaway Line) → IND Rockaway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Queens Boulevard Line)">Yellow Line (Queens Boulevard Line) → IND Queens Boulevard Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Queens Boulevard Line)">Orange Line (Queens Boulevard Line) → IND Queens Boulevard Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Blue Line (Queens Boulevard Line)">Blue Line (Queens Boulevard Line) → IND Queens Boulevard Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (IND Queens Boulevard Line)">Yellow Line (IND Queens Boulevard Line) → IND Queens Boulevard Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (IND Queens Boulevard Line)">Orange Line (IND Queens Boulevard Line) → IND Queens Boulevard Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Blue Line (IND Queens Boulevard Line)">Blue Line (IND Queens Boulevard Line) → IND Queens Boulevard Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Culver Line)">Green Line (Culver Line) → IND Culver Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Culver Line)">Orange Line (Culver Line) → IND Culver Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IND Culver Line)">Green Line (IND Culver Line) → IND Culver Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (IND Culver Line)">Orange Line (IND Culver Line) → IND Culver Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Crosstown Line)">Green Line (Crosstown Line) → IND Crosstown Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Second Avenue Subway)">Yellow Line (Second Avenue Subway) → Second Avenue Subway (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Eighth Avenue Line)">Orange Line (Eighth Avenue Line) → IND Eighth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (IND Eighth Avenue Line)">Orange Line (IND Eighth Avenue Line) → IND Eighth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Concourse Line)">Orange Line (Concourse Line) → IND Concourse Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (IND Concourse Line)">Orange Line (IND Concourse Line) → IND Concourse Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (West End Line)">Orange Line (West End Line) → BMT West End Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (BMT West End Line)">Orange Line (BMT West End Line) → BMT West End Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Sea Beach Line)">Yellow Line (Sea Beach Line) → BMT Sea Beach Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (BMT Sea Beach Line)">Yellow Line (BMT Sea Beach Line) → BMT Sea Beach Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Silver Line (Franklin Avenue Line)">Silver Line (Franklin Avenue Line) → BMT Franklin Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Silver Line (BMT Franklin Avenue Line)">Silver Line (BMT Franklin Avenue Line) → BMT Franklin Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Fourth Avenue Line)">Yellow Line (Fourth Avenue Line) → BMT Fourth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Fourth Avenue Line)">Orange Line (Fourth Avenue Line) → BMT Fourth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)">Yellow Line (BMT Fourth Avenue Line) → BMT Fourth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)">Orange Line (BMT Fourth Avenue Line) → BMT Fourth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Brighton Line)">Yellow Line (Brighton Line) → BMT Brighton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Brighton Line)">Orange Line (Brighton Line) → BMT Brighton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (BMT Brighton Line)">Yellow Line (BMT Brighton Line) → BMT Brighton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (BMT Brighton Line)">Orange Line (BMT Brighton Line) → BMT Brighton Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Myrtle Avenue Line)">Orange Line (Myrtle Avenue Line) → BMT Myrtle Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (BMT Myrtle Avenue Line)">Orange Line (BMT Myrtle Avenue Line) → BMT Myrtle Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Jamaica Line)">Orange Line (Jamaica Line) → BMT Jamaica Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Brown Line (Jamaica Line)">Brown Line (Jamaica Line) → BMT Jamaica Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (BMT Jamaica Line)">Orange Line (BMT Jamaica Line) → BMT Jamaica Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Brown Line (BMT Jamaica Line)">Brown Line (BMT Jamaica Line) → BMT Jamaica Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Astoria Line)">Yellow Line (Astoria Line) → BMT Astoria Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (BMT Astoria Line)">Yellow Line (BMT Astoria Line) → BMT Astoria Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (Lenox Avenue Line)">Red Line (Lenox Avenue Line) → IRT Lenox Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (IRT Lenox Avenue Line)">Red Line (IRT Lenox Avenue Line) → IRT Lenox Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Nostrand Avenue Line)">Green Line (Nostrand Avenue Line) → IRT Nostrand Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (Nostrand Avenue Line)">Red Line (Nostrand Avenue Line) → IRT Nostrand Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT Nostrand Avenue Line)">Green Line (IRT Nostrand Avenue Line) → IRT Nostrand Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (IRT Nostrand Avenue Line)">Red Line (IRT Nostrand Avenue Line) → IRT Nostrand Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (New Lots Line)">Green Line (New Lots Line) → IRT New Lots Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (New Lots Line)">Red Line (New Lots Line) → IRT New Lots Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT New Lots Line)">Green Line (IRT New Lots Line) → IRT New Lots Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (IRT New Lots Line)">Red Line (IRT New Lots Line) → IRT New Lots Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT White Plains Road Line)">Green Line (IRT White Plains Road Line) → IRT White Plains Road Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (IRT White Plains Road Line)">Red Line (IRT White Plains Road Line) → IRT White Plains Road Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT Pelham Line)">Green Line (IRT Pelham Line) → IRT Pelham Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT Jerome Avenue Line)">Green Line (IRT Jerome Avenue Line) → IRT Jerome Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT Dyre Avenue Line)">Green Line (IRT Dyre Avenue Line) → IRT Dyre Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (IRT Eastern Parkway Line)">Red Line (IRT Eastern Parkway Line) → IRT Eastern Parkway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (IRT Eastern Parkway Line)">Green Line (IRT Eastern Parkway Line) → IRT Eastern Parkway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Eastern Parkway Line)">Green Line (Eastern Parkway Line) → IRT Eastern Parkway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (Eastern Parkway Line)">Red Line (Eastern Parkway Line) → IRT Eastern Parkway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (White Plains Road Line)">Green Line (White Plains Road Line) → IRT White Plains Road Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (White Plains Road Line)">Red Line (White Plains Road Line) → IRT White Plains Road Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Pelham Line)">Green Line (Pelham Line) → IRT Pelham Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Jerome Avenue Line)">Green Line (Jerome Avenue Line) → IRT Jerome Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Dyre Avenue Line)">Green Line (Dyre Avenue Line) → IRT Dyre Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Gray Line (Canarsie Line)">Gray Line (Canarsie Line) → BMT Canarsie Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Silver Line (Canarsie Line)">Silver Line (Canarsie Line) → BMT Canarsie Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Brown Line (Nassau Street Line)">Brown Line (Nassau Street Line) → BMT Nassau Street Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Green Line (Lexington Avenue Line)">Green Line (Lexington Avenue Line) → IRT Lexington Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Purple Line (Flushing Line)">Purple Line (Flushing Line) → IRT Flushing Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Blue Line (Eighth Avenue Line)">Blue Line (Eighth Avenue Line) → IND Eighth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Orange Line (Sixth Avenue Line)">Orange Line (Sixth Avenue Line) → IND Sixth Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Yellow Line (Broadway Line)">Yellow Line (Broadway Line) → BMT Broadway Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Red Line (Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line)">Red Line (Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) → IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The New York City Subway services are not referred to by color (due to ambiguity); the physical lines (tracks) certainly don't either (and they can be even more ambiguous: for example, you can see there are services with four different colors on the Queens Boulevard Line), and the disambiguation/parenthetical formatting does not make much sense. Delete as unnecessary. eviolite  (talk)  03:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all: For these redirects to help, one would have to know the color of the letter/number badge for the line, if the line was IND or BMT for a fair number of these and what primary street the line tracks for a period of time, but somehow not the name of the line itself. The utility of this seems rather implausible as well as none of the lines, as mentioned by the nominator, are referred to by color. So all of this is not very likely to be used and seems to really require both an intricate knowledge of New York and how subway lines are referred to as the _ Line, but not a knowledge of the letter/number of the line itself that one is trying to find. It all seems rather implausible to me. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 12:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all More jailbroken iPod nonsense. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:03, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

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