Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 20

September 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 20, 2022.

Ocasional superheroine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Ocasional superheroine → Valerie D'Orazio (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems to be the title of a book which isn't mentioned at target article. I would support keeping if a mention is added, but the fact that the title is also misspelled has brought me to the conclusion that deletion is preferable. CycloneYoris talk! 22:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment According to the infobox it's a pen name, but it is misspelled. pburka (talk) 12:54, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; receives virtually no pageviews and as such seems an unlikely usage. While redirects are cheap, this one does not seem to serve any purpose. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 23:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
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Amit Goswami
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Amit Goswami → What the Bleep Do We Know!? (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target (mention was removed in Special:Diff/751386801). * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 13 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 19:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are several mentions of "Amit Goswami" on Enwiki but no substantive information. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Barney the DInosaur
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 11:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Barney the DInosaur → Barney & Friends (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely capitalisation and search term. There exists Barney the Dinosaur redirect already. – robertsky (talk) 19:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as a typo that is no more likely than any other. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:08, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per J947, old redirect getting use. Clear candidate for deletion if recently created, but this is quite old. Let's not break links. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as already served by the correctly-capitalised redirect. Searching is case-insensitive. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:33, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per pageviews. Given the sudden rise in views, I don't believe this is from people's clicking variance when Barney the is typed into to the search bar, but caused by some old link.  J947  † edits 02:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meh, it's WP:CHEAP as heck and isn't misleading. Steel1943  (talk) 22:00, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per precedence at Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 22. That was for the most viewed non-website article on Wikipedia. Pages views for United States |Barney_%26_Friends vastly exceed those of Barney & Friends. Note that the search is case-insensitive. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 00:44, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete The sudden rise in pageviews likely has to do with this RfD. It doesn't seem (to me at least) to be of the scale indicating sudden actual usage. FAdesdae378's statement indicates that the admins have no problem with this logic, and while it's not exactly a consensus-level policy I don't think it's a bad idea. Checking the "what links here" for this page may be wise, still, if this gets deleted. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 22:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify:
 * The rise I refer to is that of March 2017; given it, I believe an artificial factor to be at play here.
 * The linked discussion is just that. is of higher status, as a guideline.
 * Link(s) here are likely external – i.e., from outside Wikipedia. As such, it will not show up on the internal WhatLinksHere.
 * —  J947  † edits 07:14, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Makes sense, then. Given the fact that the redirect is cheap and the above I change my vote to keep. Does not seem it would harm anything. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 03:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sttel1943 and J947. This is cheap, not misleading, takes people to exactly the content they are looking for and the page views indicate that it is helping a lot of people (653 between 1 January and the day before this nomination). Combine all this with there being absolutely zero benefits arising from deletion and there is no justification for deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 23:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep What, are we applying WP:NCCAPS to redirects now? Anyway, this redirect is fine, unambiguous, and cheap. Ovinus (talk) 05:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Userwork
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Template:Userwork → User:Quinxorin/Templates/Userwork template (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was a user template mistakenly created in User space. I have moved it to User:Quinxorin/Templates/Userwork template and fixed all of the transclusions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:46, 13 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy retarget. There's no need for further discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom. No point in keeping. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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Reality shift
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%23Reality shift

Tolyltriazole
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 * The result of the discussion was Moot due to artice creation  . If there are any objections to the newly-created stub article, discussion can be reopened. signed,Rosguill talk 19:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Tolyltriazole → Benzotriazole (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Tolyltriazole is a distinct substance (see Q62062010) and should thus have its own article (or a red link until then). Leyo 11:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. A brief mention of tolyltriazole was added to to the end of the article when this redirect was created, but I agree this should be redlinked until a stub or more substantial section can be created on it. Complicating the matter is that "tolyltriazole" does not define the position of the methyl group and therefore does not refer to a specific compound but rather a group of isomers. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Adjust.
 * I created [Tolyltriazole] (2022-06-02T19:44:08), minutes before adding mention of it to [Benzotriazole] (2022-06-02T19:58:41). (If I had added mention first, I admit, I might not have created the redirect.)
 * Tolyltriazole, "a distinct substance" used in industry, deserves mention. (Maybe an article, maybe not.)
 * The redirect puts [Tolyltriazole] into Category:Benzotriazoles! (I expected its entry there to be italicized; I wonder why it is not.) A ham-fisted "Delete" would remove [Tolyltriazole] from that category. Keeping it in the category there requires a redirect or a split (cutting the section from [Benzotriazole] and pasting it into [Tolyltriazole]). (See can of worms.)
 * "Complicating the matter is that" someone didn't edit these observations into [Benzotriazole] and/or [Tolyltriazole]. (Handled.) -A876 (talk) 18:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I see you have added more content since my comment above. It makes more sense to create a stub at this title rather than confusingly have a section for it in the article for a different compound, which can happen regardless of the outcome here at Rfd. A simple chembox can easily be included using content distilled from the Wikidata entry. The only reason to have a redirect (and associated entry in the benzotriazoles category) is if wikipedia actually has content on the subject. Now that we do, let's organize it properly. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 16:52, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Benzotriazole needs to be moved to its own article (or stub for now). --Leyo 10:02, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep or Delete the redirect; it hardly matters which, because the redirect now has no real history and "should be" promptly replaced with the section from [Benzotriazole] that it points to. (I hope the "next editor" will move the section over the redirect, not challenge the redirect.) I would move the section over the redirect right now, but this discussion is open. Discussion can be closed quickly if the outcome is "move"; moving part of an article could be rationalized as a "move" outcome. (I'm tempted to close it right now.) -A876 (talk) 09:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Moot. Another 8 days gawn by without no farther clapification or objerctions, so I thinned [Benzotriazole] and made [Tolyltriazole] from a redirect into a stub. (May God have mercy on my soul.®) -A876 (talk) 06:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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Three Guys 1 Hammer
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 29%23Three Guys 1 Hammer

Ghantsala
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%23Ghantsala

K16DO
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%23K16DO

2026 Formula One World Championship
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%232026 Formula One World Championship

Saut
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Editors are in agreement that the redirect is not appropriate, and that the newly-drafted disambiguation is suitable. signed,Rosguill talk 16:58, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Saut → Asyut (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term is not precisely mentioned in the target article. I have just created Saut (disambiguation), which should be moved to this title. BD2412 T 01:57, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per nom. It's an ancient Egyptian name for the city, but I'm not sure it's the primary topic for the term. There's other stuff it could refer to, and people might be WP:ASTONISHed to go to one page. Regards, SONIC 678 04:17, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * disambig per nom -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 04:18, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural close. Sorry BD, but this is a move request. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:19, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No, this is a request to delete the existing redirect. The request would be equally valid if there was no disambiguation page to move to the title. BD2412  T 20:16, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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Catholic law
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%23Catholic law

Elizabeth II (Cars)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%23Elizabeth II (Cars)

Mannerbunde
<span id="Männerbünde"> <span id="Männerbund"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 27%23Mannerbunde

Jeff Brown (author)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Editors are evenly divided on whether a redlink is preferable to the current redirect. signed,Rosguill talk 16:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * <span id="Jeff Brown (author)">Jeff Brown (author) → Flat Stanley (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There should be a separate article for the author Jeff Brown, it should not redirect to his book Flat Stanley. Aalhorn (talk) 20:52, 5 September 2022 (UTC) Mr. Brown died in 2003, and his NYT obit is here. A pertinent guideline is Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages. This Jeff Brown is listed at the Jeff Brown dab page, so there should be a red link there too. &#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 22:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. ”Jeff Brown (author)” should probably be a red link.  The following Wikipedia articles already link to “Jeff Brown (author)”:
 * 1964 in literature
 * Tomi Ungerer
 * Human mail
 * List of children's classic books
 * 1001 Children's Books You Must Read Before You Grow Up


 * Thanks, I edited the dab page so as soon as the redirection (its creator ARMcgrath mentioned on his talk page that he had forgotten having created it) is deleted, the entry should turn into a red link. Aalhorn (talk) 06:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as a r with possibilities or overwrite with an article. An article would be preferable, but until then, a redirect pointing to relevant material is more helpful to readers than the redlink or search results would be. - Eureka Lott 13:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete to make an article-encouraging red link. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:48, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The incoming links mean a redlink would be less helpful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Ethereal plane
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 29%23Ethereal plane