Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 16

April 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 16, 2023.

Turning The Tide
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Turning The Tide → Anti-Racist Action (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This a redirect to an article that makes no mention of the redirects name. A search on the net also yields inconclusive results. Upon further digging, this is apparently the newsletter for this decentralized network, but given the lack of mention and how common this search term is, I'm not sure if it should exist. - Knightoftheswords281  (Talk-Contribs) 23:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Chada Norphanphoun
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 23%23Chada Norphanphoun

Sexuality of Alan Harper
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Sexuality of Alan Harper → Two and a Half Men (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, the target article doesn't have content to justify this redirect. Stumbled on it via Category:Sexuality of individuals (not an individual, btw). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:05, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Walt Yoder (talk) 02:14, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:51, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Ceremonial Clothing in Judeo-Christian Cultures
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:46, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ceremonial Clothing in Judeo-Christian Cultures → Ceremonial dress (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An old article name that isn't a likely search, doesn't fit our title structure. Article was moved to a page that is now a redirect itself. Nothing links here. Target article mentions nothing about "Judeo-Christian culture" (sorry, that term gives me the hives.) Nat Gertler (talk) 23:34, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 20:01, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - a big reason why redirects are created from moves is so that the history of the former page can be retained and any remaining links can be easily evade being broken. - Knightsoftheswords281  (Talk-Contribs) 02:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete as misleading and per nom. The target article doesn't address Judeo-Christian culture. The redirect has no incoming mainspace links and receives next to no traffic, so deleting it won't create problems. - Eureka Lott 21:20, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per EurekaLott. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:36, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hello (computer virus)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 20:04, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello (computer virus) → Computer virus (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

BLAR'd article. The content wasn't merged into the main article and wouldn't fit anywhere on Wikipedia. No mention at target. Randi Moth TalkContribs 18:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: No mention of the virus anywhere on Wikipedia. No reliable sources mention this virus either. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:33, 17 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete redir’s with no mention at target whatsoever should probably get speedied. Dronebogus (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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Russian bond
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 23%23Russian bond

Urgrund
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 28%23Urgrund

Ess Jay Studios
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 20:23, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ess Jay Studios → SinemArt (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is not mentioned at target. Clovermoss 🍀 (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ess Jay Studios seems to be a small Indian production company of no importance. If this wiki page is to be trusted, the connection to SinemArt is a number of co-productions. I can't find this information anywhere else, so definitely not worth adding a mention to justify the redirect. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:31, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Russian mystery deaths
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  the first, keep the second. --BDD (talk) 20:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Russian mystery deaths → Suspicious deaths of Russian businesspeople (2022–2023) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Russian businessmen mystery deaths → Suspicious deaths of Russian businesspeople (2022–2023) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Russian mystery deaths is a broad term that doesn't necessarily refer to the 2022-23 phenomenon. Ideally, this could be pointed to List of unsolved murders in Russia but no such article exists at this time. Deletion per WP:REDYES seems appropriate. Russian businessmen mystery deaths is perhaps specific enough, so I'm neutral on that one, but I'm including it in the discussion for completeness' sake. signed,Rosguill talk 18:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Uanfala (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep the second as specific per nom, and weak keep the first as unambiguous . An unsolved murder is different from a mystery death, so I don't think that list if/when created will be appropriate. Jay  💬 18:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * My first thought when seeing term 1 was Dyatlov Pass incident, or else one of the other Soviet era conspiracy theories like Lost Cosmonauts. signed,Rosguill talk 21:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not particular about the first redirect, so have struck it off. The two above incidents happened in the Soviet Union, so if we have a list, Soviet mystery deaths will be more like it. Jay  💬 07:09, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep the second, delete the first, per the various issues discussed above. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:23, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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SoftKey Publishing
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Computist.  ✗  plicit  23:47, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * SoftKey Publishing → SoftKey (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The first edition of the Computist magazine was published in 1981; the company was founded in 1986. There's no evidence that they're the same entity.

(Alternatively, change redirect target to Computist?) 2001:F70:C6C0:1500:76EE:87D6:9A96:D2CF (talk) 13:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Unless someone provides evidence that the two companies are the same, redirect to Computist. —Psychonaut (talk) 14:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Michael King III
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 23%23Michael King III

Network Reconnaissance
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  11:44, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Network Reconnaissance → Vulnerability scanner (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Badly capitalised, and not mentioned at the target (the section no longer exists). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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Renaissance (journal)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Renaissance (journal)">Renaissance (journal) → Javed Ahmad Ghamidi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target and possibly ambiguous with Renaissance Magazine. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Seems to be a journal that Ghamidi wrote a lot for . But that's a very tenuous association, and not enough for a redirect. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:58, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Billy Jones (1970s singer)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Billy Jones (1970s singer)">Billy Jones (1970s singer) → Twinkle Stars (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Billy Jones (Dutch singer)">Billy Jones (Dutch singer) → Twinkle Stars (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

nominated by an IP editor for speedy deletion, because this redirect "links to an irrelevant article" Salvio giuliano 09:54, 5 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Bundled Billy Jones (Dutch singer) with this. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:41, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: He was apparently a member of a band called "The Twinkle Stars", which appears to be why the redirect was targeted to that article. No article exists for the relevant band, nor does it exist for the band he was in next, Thunderstorm. There is an article for a band named Thunderstorm, but it's not the one that Billy Jones was in. Doesn't look like there's an appropriate place to retarget to based on no articles existing for the bands that he was in. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a page with history. Also we may want to bundle Billy Jones (Dutch singer) which was the former title of the page. Jay  💬 17:04, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:20, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Renaissance (restaurant)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Château Élysée. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Renaissance (restaurant)">Renaissance (restaurant) → Celebrity Centre (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Renaissance" is not mentioned at the target, and this redirect is possibly ambiguous (eg Renaissance Hotels). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:35, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Delete  no good targets on Renaissance (disambiguation). There seems to be several "Renaissance restaurant" in Google but not sure if any of them are notable. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is a Church of Scientology restaurant. This redirect has a non-trivial edit history and a talk page because it was once an article. I fixed the target of the redirect to Château Élysée, and added the restaurant to Renaissance (disambiguation). In 2010, the content was merged into Celebrity Centre per discussion at Talk:Celebrity Centre/Archive 1, and later on there was some reorganization between the two articles Celebrity Centre (the organization) and Château Élysée (the building) — apparently leaving the redirect Renaissance (restaurant) with a wrong target. I fixed it. Grorp (talk) 03:28, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Grorp's improvements. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That's not a keep, that's retarget to Château Élysée, and I support the retarget. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:41, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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World War II/Infobox
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 22%23World War II/Infobox

Harassment of W. Duncan
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  as vandalism. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 22:48, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Harassment of W. Duncan → Harassment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This redirect was the result of a page-move vandalism (see the edit summary ). It has existed since 2006 however, so I preferred to bring it here rather than unilaterally speedying it. There is zero chance of it being linked from external sites. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 02:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as the result of a user trying to complain through page-move vandalism. There no informative or historical value here. Glades12 (talk) 09:47, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:27, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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