Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 21

April 21
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 21, 2023.

Monte carlo Simulation
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:21, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Monte carlo Simulation → Monte Carlo method (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Highly unlikely capitalization. The correctly capitalized redirects, Monte Carlo simulation and Monte Carlo simulations, exist and should cover all use cases. I suggest delete. – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:28, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep this because of the pageviews. There have been 7350 views since 2015, which works out to about two and a half views per day. Duckmather (talk) 19:00, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CHEAP. Steel1943  (talk) 20:01, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, harmless.  J947  † edits 06:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Harry Singh
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 6%23Harry Singh

List of Orthodox churches
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:20, 30 April 2023 (UTC)


 * List of Orthodox churches → Orthodox Church (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of Orthodox Churches → Orthodox Church (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target is not a list, but a DAB of Christian denominations. For example, the DAB does not contain List of Eastern Orthodox churches in Toronto as it is a list of buildings, not of denominations. There is no good retarget.

Therefore, I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 14:17, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep the uppercase version per WP:DIFFCAPS. "Orthodox Church" is likelier to refer to a denomination rather than a specific building. No opinion on the lowercase version. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:01, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep both, for navigational purposes. If people are expecting to find a list of orthodox churches, and we serve them the disambiguation page that lists the various sorts of Orthodox churches, we're serving our reader well with this reasonable search term. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 23:13, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. A disambiguation page is not a list article and is not intended to be used as one; these redirects are misleadling to readers and editors, regarding what a disambiguation is for.
 * It's not clear whether a searcher wants a list of buildings, a list of autocephalous Churches (eg. Organization of the Eastern Orthodox Church), or a list of denominations. Having them point to different destinations based on case could cause some confusion, and wouldn't resolve all the ambiguity since the autocephalous Churches and denominations often share the use of the capitalised "Church". Additionally, these list redirects are ambiguous because "Orthodox" is itself ambiguous. For example, is someone searching this looking for Eastern Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox C/churches?
 * The current target would be useless for anyone looking for buildings. As noted by the nominator, the target doesn't link readers to any list articles that might be relevant. (Including, in addition to the Toronto list, List of tallest Eastern Orthodox church buildings, List of Russian Orthodox churches, List of largest Eastern Orthodox church buildings, and perhaps others.) These could be listed under "see also", but that section already has more entries than are listed for disambiguation; better not to add clutter.
 * All these problems are most easily solved by not having the redirects. The titles should remain vacant to allow uninhibited searching, unless someone wants to volunteer to make an actual list article or at least a list of lists linking the list articles mentioned here. – Scyrme (talk) 00:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:50, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Scyrme. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:28, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. As far as I can see, Enwiki doesn't have a list (of either buildings or faith organisations). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:46, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as misleading. Softlavender (talk) 04:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
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Non-notable Jeopardy! contestants
         <span id="Jerry Frankel (Jeopardy!)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 14%23Non-notable Jeopardy! contestants

Weapons of resident evil 4
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:35, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Weapons of resident evil 4 → Resident Evil 4 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should have been grouped with Weapons of Resident Evil 4 when it was nominated and deleted per Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 18. Steel1943 (talk) 20:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Should have been deleted with original redirect as itis nothing but a misspelling of that redirect. Meters (talk) 20:46, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Snow delete per the RFD linked. Not mentioned in the target. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 21:24, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per precedent -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:01, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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Razvedupr
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 28%23Razvedupr

Glavnoye Razvedyvatel'noye Upravleniye
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 29%23Glavnoye Razvedyvatel'noye Upravleniye

Turn (rational trigonometry)
<span id="Turn (rational trigonometry)"> <span id="Coturn (rational trigonometry)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 29%23Turn (rational trigonometry)

Pythagoras' theorem proof (rational trigonometry)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 29%23Pythagoras' theorem proof (rational trigonometry)

Decapitation of a Ukrainian prisoner of war
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:33, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Decapitation of a Ukrainian prisoner of war → Summer 2022 beheading of a Ukrainian prisoner of war (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are two other known instances of Ukrainian POWs being beheaded by the Russian invaders. One is known from a video released in April 2023, just like this one, showing two (instead of one) beheaded POWs. The other one can be read at Battle of Popasna. So this redirect is not appropriate as it can refer to several events. Super  Ψ   Dro  17:40, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator. The redirect title isn't specific at all. Nythar  (💬-🍀) 00:56, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's formated like a search query not a title, so let the search engine handle it. – Scyrme (talk) 06:29, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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Videolog
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 29%23Videolog

Steve Rogers (Marvel Comics)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Some rationale as below. (non-admin closure) <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 21:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Steve Rogers (Marvel Comics)">Steve Rogers (Marvel Comics) → Captain America (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I do know that this redirect is from an avoided double redirect, but, this redirect is useless with the following reason: Steve Rogers redirects to Captain America. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 15:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Could please you elaborate on why this R from unnecessary disambiguation is useless? Randi Moth Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 17:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Steve Rogers redirects to Captain America is why. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 17:21, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Steve Rogers is the name of the character who is Captain America. Steel1943  (talk) 17:30, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Doctor Dre
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 26%23Doctor Dre

Execution of Tymofii Shadura
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 16:50, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Execution of Tymofii Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tymofii Mykolayovych Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tymofiy Mykolayovych Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Execution of Tymofiy Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tymofiy Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Tymofii Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Execution of Tymofiy Mykolayovych Shadura → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article is about a Ukrainian prisoner of war who was executed by Russian soldiers. Initially (in the first three days), he was identified as Tymofii Shadura, but later the soldier was identified as Oleksandr Matsievskyi. Now that it's been clarified, redirects regarding Shadura should be eliminated, as this person is not related to the subject of the article. The so many existing redirects are only a product of recentism; had this happened prior to the creation of Wikipedia or had it gotten less attention, probably nobody would have ever created these redirects.

This nomination is also meant to include Execution of Tymofiy Mykolayovych Shadura, Tymofii Shadura, Tymofiy Shadura, Execution of Tymofiy Shadura, Tymofiy Mykolayovych Shadura and Tymofii Mykolayovych Shadura. Super  Ψ   Dro  18:59, 13 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Bundled the other mentioned redirects to this. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 13:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete all above redirects per the nominator. These redirects were created when the murdered soldier's name was thought to be Tymofii Shadura, but that turned out to be incorrect. Nythar  (💬-🍀) 14:59, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Physical comparison of jaguars and leopards
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 16:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Physical comparison of jaguars and leopards → Jaguar (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The section this targets does not contain a comparison of jaguars and leopards, apart from a single sentence about their coat patterns, and should not contain that content as it would be out of the article's scope. This previously targeted Jaguar versus leopard and Comparison of cheetahs, jaguars and leopards, both of which have been deleted at AFD. 192.76.8.81 (talk) 13:19, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree to delete these redirects. BhagyaMani (talk) 13:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Redirect to something that isn't in the article, and shouldn't be. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:27, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Should never have been redirected to new target. UtherSRG (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Personally, I know many people who cannot differentiate them, not everyone edits and learns in wikipedia like we do. And I am sure there are many more can't tell them apart. A little difference should obviously be shown under leopard or jaguar. -- Some1 {talk} 17:36, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Should have been deleted rather than redirected when the target article was deleted. Meters (talk) 20:39, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is Neelix-level obsession/incompetence/trolling. Softlavender (talk) 22:56, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Walt Yoder (talk) 02:02, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of largest cats where the physical characteristics of both jaguars and leopards are listed. Redirects like this and the deleted articles show that people expect to find this content on Wikipedia so we should make it easier for them to find it when we have it. Thryduulf (talk) 12:39, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The redirects show sloppy editing by a now blocked editor that treated this as their pet topic regardless of notability and tried to maintain a sort of WP:WALLEDGARDEN. That shouldn't be misconstrued as people expecting to find this content on the encyclopedia.


 * Delete. No useful targets and part of cleanup from Articles_for_deletion/Tiger_versus_lion_(3rd_nomination) issues that proliferated related to that. KoA (talk) 15:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, no retargeting. fluff you find in a 3rd-grade library book. there is no encyclopedic content, and no useful redirect target. ValarianB (talk) 15:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Jaguar vs leopard
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 16:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Jaguar vs leopard → Leopard (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Leopard versus jaguar → Leopard (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These were originally created to target the article Jaguar versus leopard, which was deleted following Articles for deletion/Jaguar versus leopard. To prevent these redirects from being properly deleted per WP:G8 they were retageted to the leopard article. The section these redirects target has no mention of the topic "Jaguar vs leopard", mentioning jaguars only once. In addition there are WP:XY issues, as these could target either Jaguar or Leopard. Therefore, DELETE. 192.76.8.81 (talk) 13:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree to delete these redirects. BhagyaMani (talk) 13:33, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Redirect to something that isn't in the article, and shouldn't be. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:27, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Should never have been redirected to new target. UtherSRG (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Should have been deleted rather than redirected when the target article was deleted. Meters (talk) 20:40, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is Neelix-level obsession/incompetence/trolling. Softlavender (talk) 22:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of largest cats where the encyclopaedic information we have can be found. Thryduulf (talk) 12:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. No significant value in redirecting elsewhere, agree with others above that it shouldn't have been redirected in the first place. KoA (talk) 15:23, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete no retargeting. fluff you find in a 3rd-grade library book. there is no encyclopedic content, and no useful redirect target. ValarianB (talk) 15:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Potable alcohol
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 08:32, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Potable alcohol → Ethanol (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear why this title might be relevant to ethanol in particular. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 07:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. So, this doesn't refer to beer or wine? Steel1943  (talk) 20:26, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. [//www.google.com/search?q= Web searches] reveal that reliable sources use this as a synonym for ethanol. The alcohol in beer and wine is ethanol. - Eureka Lott 17:43, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. The alcohol component of alcoholic beverages that are potable is ethanol, as the target article explains. This is also explained at Alcoholic beverage but the redirect's emphasis on the alcohol not the beverage. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Either keep or retarget to alcoholic beverage. (Either would work.) This is an entirely plausible search term and a reasonable r from synonym. "Potable" just means you can safely drink it; it's the equivalent of "edible" for drinks. Other alcohols are toxic to humans, so it's the relevance is obvious and unambiguous. – Scyrme (talk) 10:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above. I don't object to a retarget but per EurekaLott's findings I think Ethanol is the slightly better target. Thryduulf (talk) 12:42, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Flo (Serie)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Flo (Serie)">Flo (Serie) → Flo (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No reason for this to exist, nothing links here at all. Obvious misspelling Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 07:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: Implausible typo UtherSRG (talk) 15:45, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:05, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. This is a remnant of an intermediate step in a chain of page moves. Nothing to preserve. – Uanfala (talk) 12:46, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete this error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:00, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Chinese politicians
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 08:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Tan Yen-kai → Tan Yankai (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lin Po-chu → Lin Boqu (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Chen Kung-po → Chen Gongbo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wu Yu-chang → Wu Yuzhang (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ting Wei-fen → Ding Weifen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems completely irrelevant, unclear why this might be misspelled Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 07:05, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * They are not irrelevant. Instead, the redirect pages are the Wade-Giles writing system of the individuals' name (different from Pinyin scheme of People's Republic of China), which remain official in Taiwan (Republic of China), as where the officials in these pages had served. The same applied to the above pages. J. Dann 08:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, fair enough. Something to make that clear originally would probably have been helpful...! Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 08:40, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Pleased that the confusion can be resolved. Thanks. J. Dann
 * Keep and tag with R from alternative transliteration per above. I've also merged the related discussions. Randi Moth Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 17:10, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep with R from alternative transliteration per above. I'll take this discussion as a reminder of the importance of using redirect templates for titles whose relevance may not be obvious to everyone. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:48, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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Mid Sussex(UK Parliament constituency)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Mid Sussex(UK Parliament constituency)">Mid Sussex(UK Parliament constituency) → Mid Sussex (UK Parliament constituency) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to lack of space between title and disambiguator. The target represents the title with the correct spacing.. Steel1943 (talk) 06:27, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete because of the malformed disambiguation. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 10:22, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete this error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Homburg+(hat)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Homburg+(hat)">Homburg+(hat) → Homburg hat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely title due to the use of the plus. Steel1943 (talk) 06:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Yeah, with the added unnecessary punctuation and weird formatting, no one is searching this. Captain  Galaxy  11:33, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and send to WP:DAFT per nom and User:Captain Galaxy. Duckmather (talk) 18:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete this error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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The School Up North
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 16:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The School Up North → Michigan–Ohio State football rivalry (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * That School Up North → College rivalry (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Searching online, I came to the conclusion that these phrases are relatively generic and used for more than one rivalry, especially for Ole Miss, but also for the Michigan–Ohio State football rivalry (, , etc.). My sense is that given the various usage, targeting both to College rivalry is most appropriate, but others may have additional perspectives on what the primary topic is here. signed,Rosguill talk 14:25, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Delete (oppose retarget). I think anyone searching for a specific rivalry would type in some variation of the rivalry name (i.e. "Michigan-Ohio State rivalry," "Michigan-Ohio State," "Ohio State-Michigan," "The Game," all of which lead to the football rivalry page either directly or indirectly), and not the nickname some supporters of one school use for the other school.  Likewise, anyone looking up info on the generic "college rivalry" would not find it by searching for "the school up north" so a retarget there really does not make sense either.  Frank   Anchor  15:10, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: I think it's an unlikely search term and, as Frank Anchor mentions, if you are searching for that term you likely are aware of better terms to search instead. I don't see these redirects as helpful and I think they're more likely to cause confusions as oppose to being helpful. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep at least show Wikipedia still has some sense of humor left. I regret calling attention to the status of the old redirect after the one I created had its pointer moved. Going straight here feels a little spiteful, TBH. Not cool. DarkAudit (talk) 21:24, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * RfD and similar processes have nothing to do with spite and everything to do with centralizing discussion and prioritizing consensus as a community. Assume good faith, please. signed,Rosguill talk 23:03, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 22:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to college rivalry. Seems like a reasonable (albeit somewhat colloquial) search term for the concept of college rivalry. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 03:09, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Weak Retarget to college rivalry: the search terms are not implausible. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 12:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not a crossword puzzle Dronebogus (talk) 19:09, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * While my first choice is still retarget, I would support deletion over keeping at this time as a second choice. signed,Rosguill talk 05:16, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete as really too vague to point anywhere - targeting college rivalry feels like guessing to me. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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Norph
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 16:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Norph → wikispecies:Chada Norphanphoun (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:SSRT notes that only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects. Making a cross-wiki redirect here doesn't make sense (this is not commonly wikified nor a repeatedly recreated page), so I propose that this cross-wiki redirect be deleted. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 02:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete nonsensical cross-site redirect no-one is likely to use Dronebogus (talk) 19:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * I created this after realizing that "Norph" (which was discussed at the previous RfD) was actually mentioned in passing on Wikipedia in terms of the mycologist Chada Norphanphoun (who might be notable enough for us per WP:NPROF, based on their Google Scholar profile, by the way)  . Thus, "Norph" is a legitimate usage and deleting a page about it would cause confusion for anyone trying to look up this person. Pragmatically, however, I also created Chada Norphanphoun as a soft redirect to the same target (since Category:Redirects to Wikispecies) generally lists people by their full names). Thus, I actually propose to retarget to Chada Norphanphoun as a hard redirect to a soft redirect (which IIUC is hardly unprecedented on enwiki). Duckmather (talk) 19:24, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That page that you propose we retarget to has been nominated at RfD for similar reasons to this discussion. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 23:04, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm striking my suggestion that this person could be notable; see this edit. Basically, each paper listed has tons of coauthors, so the citations/authors ratio is too low. By the way, I still maintain that we should retarget this redirect to Chada Norphanphoun, for the same reasons as before. Duckmather (talk) 19:34, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * The Wikispecies page only lists the name (Chada Norphanphoun), the abbreviation (Norph.) and the fact that she's a mycologist, all of these are facts that almost any user of the redirect will likely already know. That doesn't make it a good redirect in my view. I'm wondering about the bigger picture too: can Wikispecies entries for taxonomists be expected to grow into encyclopedic articles? should we create redirects for every taxonomist not covered on Wikipedia? – Uanfala (talk) 13:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Yin-Yarn
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Kirby's Epic Yarn.  ✗  plicit  03:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Yin-Yarn → List of Kirby characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Kirby's Epic Yarn, where the character is mentioned in greater detail. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:17, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to to Kirby's Epic Yarn this is the primary antagonist of the game so therefore a likely search term.--65.93.193.94 (talk) 03:00, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kirby's Epic Yarn as it is mentioned there. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 10:21, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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