Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 25

April 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 25, 2023.

West side story(film)
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 * The result of the discussion was 'delete per the unanimous consensus below and the edit history indicating the original version was a possible copyright violation.  Thryduulf (talk) 21:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


 * West side story(film) → West Side Story (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to lack of space between title and disambiguator. The variation with the correct spacing, West side story (film), exists. Steel1943 (talk) 23:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete due to malformed modifier. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Lenticel. Why do we need this when the correctly spaced version exists? Regards, SONIC 678 03:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above: malformed modifier with the correct version existing. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:UNNATURAL. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:00, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: correct version exists, Implausible typos, and 1234qwer re WP:UNNATURAL.--FeralOink (talk) 19:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Nonsingular
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 3%23Nonsingular

Dr. Jenner
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Edward Jenner. However, there was no consensus for a hatnote at Edward Jenner.  Jay  💬 08:43, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Dr. Jenner → List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This title currently redirects to list containing a fictional "miscellaneous" character from The Walking Dead TV series. While that is indeed a popular series, I humbly submit that the most historically significant "Dr. Jenner" is Edward Jenner, the inventor of vaccination. I expect that there are other persons named Jenner with a doctorate, so I would either retarget this title to Edward Jenner (with a hatnote as appropriate), or disambiguate, if other titles can be found. BD2412 T 20:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This redirect is better covered by the full name of the character, Edwin Jenner, so it makes sense to disambiguate or retarget as suggested above. BOZ (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jenner (name), where multiple physicians with that last name are listed. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That is not an entirely unreasonable option. BD2412  T 01:01, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jenner (name) per Presidentman -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Edward Jenner per nom, with a hatnote to Sir William Jenner, 1st Baronet. These are the only two physicians mentioned at Jenner (name), so I'm not sure if retargeting there would be helpful. CycloneYoris talk! 20:52, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * A hatnote on Edward Jenner I strongly disagree with, for a start. On the basis that there is a weak primary topic, retarget to Edward Jenner.  J947  † edits 04:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Edward Jenner per nom – surely the primary topic. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 15:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Edward Jenner as the primary topic. There are three topics that come up on Google that could be primary, Edward Jenner, Dr. Jenner's House (a partial title match, and Edward Jenner is the eponymous doctor) and Dr Christopher Jenner, a currently-practising pain management specialist who doesn't have an article (and 1 minute on google suggests he isn't notable, but this is not definitive). Thryduulf (talk) 21:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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P&F
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  as drafted. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 00:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)


 * P&F → Phineas and Ferb (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * P & F → Phineas and Ferb (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ] -- added 16:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * P&f → Playfish (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ] -- added 16:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Seems very vague to me. ★Trekker (talk) 03:49, 9 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting due to the late addition of two of the redirects under discussion Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 21:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment could be combined into PF (disambiguation) to add the variation "P&F" and list those uses -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 04:53, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to PF (disambiguation) per IP as a plausible variation. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * We have P & F created in 2012 and pointing to the same target. Maybe bundle that here? Retargeting to the PF dab is not useful as it has no entries for P & F or P and F. Jay  💬 12:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've now added P & F and P&f to the nomination. – Uanfala (talk) 16:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Uanfala's draft. Jay  💬 16:22, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. I don't think retargeting to PF would be useful, as there's minimal overlap between the meanings of "PF" and "P&F". The term does appear to be in common use for at least some of the topics, and it's impossible to reach those topics with the search function without using advanced options (otherwise, the engine interprets the ampersand as an operator), so disambiguation at a separate page is definitely viable. I've drafted a dab at P&F, which appears to be the more common variant. I haven't included an entry for Playfish, as I can't figure out how it's relevant (pinging, who created this redirect in 2009, in case they remember why). – Uanfala (talk) 16:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as drafted. --BDD (talk) 21:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambiguate per Uanfala Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks like created P&f as a redirect to PF in January 2009 because they had added Point and figure chart to the dab page there; when PF was unilaterally redirected to Playfish with this edit, a bot fixed the double redirect and nobody undid that edit after PF was restored as a disambiguation page.  So there's no reason to include playfish in the P&F dab that I can see. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 16:00, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Vilhon Reach
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Vilhon Reach → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, but note The Vilhon Reach. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Sammaster
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lich (Dungeons & Dragons). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:38, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Sammaster → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a two other articles, though I can't assess which is the more appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lich (Dungeons & Dragons). BOZ (talk) 22:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lich (Dungeons & Dragons). Daranios (talk) 10:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Selgaunt
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Selgaunt → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, but listed rather indiscriminately at Forgotten Realms Adventures. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 22:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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The Zhentarim
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:36, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The Zhentarim → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently mentioned at target. Probably to be aligned with. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 22:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Garagos
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 3%23Garagos

Mirabar
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Mirabar → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:51, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Cadderly Bonaduce
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to The Cleric Quintet. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Cadderly Bonaduce → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Cleric Quintet. BOZ (talk) 21:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Cleric Quintet. Daranios (talk) 10:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Winterkeep
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Winterkeep → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Murghôm
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Murghôm">Murghôm → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:53, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Luiren
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Luiren → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Rashemen
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Rashemen → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Chessenta
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Chessenta → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles, though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Danica Maupoissant
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to The Cleric Quintet. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Danica Maupoissant → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not described at target, but briefly mentioned in The Cleric Quintet. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Cleric Quintet. BOZ (talk) 21:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Cleric Quintet. Daranios (talk) 10:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Impiltur
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:30, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Impiltur → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not described at target. Briefly mentioned at Faerûn, though. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:58, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Ashanath
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:29, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Ashanath → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target, and on-wiki search only brings up unrelated results. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:57, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Balduron
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Faerûn. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Balduron → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Blushing Mermaid → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. BOZ (talk) 21:39, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Faerûn. Daranios (talk) 10:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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The Simbul
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Mystra (Forgotten Realms). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The Simbul → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Simbul → Forgotten Realms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not currently described at target. Mentioned in a few other articles (not all relevant to FR), though I can't assess which is the most appropriate option. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Elminster or Mystra (Forgotten Realms). BOZ (talk) 21:24, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget: Appears distributed through a few articles. Elminster seems fine as a target, but I would prefer Mystra (Forgotten Realms), as the Simbul's origin is explained there. Daranios (talk) 10:46, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hutchinson 3G
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Consensus is that this is a helpful redirect from misspelling. (non-admin closure) Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 16:34, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hutchinson 3G → 3 (company) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

deletion, wrong name: the correct name is Hutchison 3G, not Hutchinson 3G. BB-9E Droid (talk) 16:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep – Searching up "Hutchinson 3G" brings in a lot of results from reliable sources using this, such as the British government's court record, British Information Commissioner's Office (which spells it both ways?), or a Reuters report. If these all refer to this company, this is at the very least a very common misspelling if not an alternate name, making it warrant a redirect. Randi Moth Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 20:18, 25 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep as it appears to be a common misspelling. Merko (talk) 21:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * But it's wrong, and if the media is wrong it doesn't have to be used. In any case, it is not even used as a redirect, so it has no use. BB-9E Droid (talk) 05:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Per WP:RPURPOSE, likely misspellings are one of the purposes for redirects. This fits under the purpose of redirects of helping people to arrive at the page they want to read more quickly, and is likely to be accessed by a large quantity of people. This redirect in particular has been used almost nine thousand times since July 2015 (the earliest date that's given by the tool linked here), so it definitely is useful to people and should be kept per WP:RFD. Randi Moth Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 08:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per above: helpful R from misspelling.  J947  † edits 07:10, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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2018–2020 Irish anti-immigration protests
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 2%232018–2020 Irish anti-immigration protests

Skyshroud
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Rath Cycle.  ✗  plicit  14:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Skyshroud → Multiverse (Magic: The Gathering) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 05:52, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: There are two suggested targets. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Mentioned in Rath Cycle and Time Spiral with the former seeming more relevant. Steel1943  (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * I agree that Rath Cycle is more relevant than Time Spiral as a target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Loose horse
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The term has usage in multiple contexts but no target was suggested. The term has potential to be added to a glossary or turned into an article.  Jay  💬 08:34, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Loose horse → Riderless horse (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While a loose horse is technically a riderless horse, it is generally used in horse racing parlance whereas the target article is largely about funeral usage. I don't really know enough about horse racing vs. equestrian terms to see if there's an appropriate glossary to add it to and retarget to there. There is Glossary of North American horse racing and Glossary of Australian and New Zealand punting, but from what I've seen the term is mostly used in the UK so neither of those seem appropriate, but I could be incorrect on even that. There's as well Glossary of equestrian terms, but I am not sure if it would be appropriate to add to there either. I don't really know enough about horse racing in any way to figure out what to do with this. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 08:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment it seems to be an important concept in Horse Training and Large Animal Rescue. It might be useful to describe this somewhere but I don't know where. -- Lenticel  ( talk ) 00:58, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that could be enough to put it on Glossary of equestrian terms, but I'll defer to someone who knows more about horses than myself. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 01:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Comment. I've relisted this slightly early as I'm about to leave messages about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Equine (and maybe somewhere else as that doesn't seem very active). Relisting before rather than after doing that should be less confusing for anyone unfamiliar with RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 08:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I also left a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Horse racing, and that project does seem active so hopefully someone knowledgeable will be along soon. Thryduulf (talk) 08:27, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Arriving on behalf of wiki projects equine and horse racing. I had not heard of the term “loose horse” being used to describe the riderless horse in funeral processions, so if anything, it’s a British English term, not a US English term. A loose horse is generally a horse that is – well, loose— running around when it’s not supposed to be running around. It is not just confined to horse racing. The term also is sometimes used in the horse slaughter industry to indicate the horses turned loose in the auction ring to be bid upon by the pound. So, my take is that unless somebody can find a definition to the funeral use, I’m ok with deletion. There’s an argument to be made that it should be put into the glossary of equestrian terms, or made into a stub article, but that means finding sources, and I’m not the one who’s going to do that today. Maybe later.  Montanabw (talk) 18:18, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; it has a different meaning than the target.  Mini  apolis  23:31, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Benalia
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Yacine Benalia.  Salvio giuliano 20:26, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Benalia → Multiverse (Magic: The Gathering) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Yacine Benalia as R from surname. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Yacine Benalia per above. ✗  plicit  14:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
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Alternative theories of the Outer planes
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  14:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Alternative theories of the Outer planes → Outer Plane (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:23, 11 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:01, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Alternative theories of the outer planes → Outer Plane (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Keep I am not sure if this is a common search term, but it is the complement to Outer Plane. Though the exact phrasing does not appear, the concept is mentioned both with regard to the 4th edition World Axis model and Outer Plane ("Other Dungeons & Dragons cosmologies were developed..."). Daranios (talk) 11:03, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Daranios. BOZ (talk) 11:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Daranios. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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Etiene
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . I'll tentatively add a hatnote. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 00:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Etiene → Etiene Medeiros (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Possibly retarget to Étienne. This is a plausible misspelling of the French name. While looking into this, I realized that the two names are of different origins. Nonetheless, I think retargeting this to the proposed article and simply listing the present redirect there, or providing a hatnote there would suffice. Estar8806 (talk) 01:46, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Étienne with a WP:HATNOTE: plausible misspelling but the hatnote is probably necessary. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 08:37, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Étienne with hatnote per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep This is the correct spelling of Etiene Medeiros' name, while the nominator states that the two names are of different origins, i.e. this is not a correct alternative spelling of Étienne. Correct spellings take precendence over misspellings. If we ever have more articles with people by the same name, then we can turn the redirect into a separate WP:SETINDEX. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 10:36, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep per solid argumets by 59.149.117.119 regarding Etiene Medeiros. Merko (talk) 13:33, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and add a hatnote to the current target AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 18:34, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
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Skux
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to skux as an alternative to deletion  Salvio giuliano 20:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Skux → Hunt for the Wilderpeople (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Slang word being used in a movie cannot be grounds for a redirect. Merko (talk) 03:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I suggest deletion, as there are no other suitable targets, or possibly cross-wiki redirect to skux. Pageviews are steady, which would argue against deletion. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. I'm also fine with soft retargetting to skux as an alternative to deletion. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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