Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 11

December 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 11, 2023.

The Palace (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The Palace (upcoming film) → The Palace (2023 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:UFILM. Subject released over a month ago in newest market, redirect's page view noise is virtually nonexistent. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect had a very long tail but page views have just about ceased. Don't speedily close this though to give the last few straggers that tiny bit longer. Thryduulf (talk) 01:00, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UFILM and the lack of pageviews. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 13:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Great Expectations (upcoming series)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Great Expectations (upcoming series) → Great Expectations (2023 TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete in the spirit of WP:UFILM. Subject was released almost 9 months ago, redirect has virtually no page view noise. Steel1943 (talk) 23:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. In complete contrast to the redirect above, the page views on this ceased almost literally overnight - 64 views on 5 November, 2 on 6 November and then none until a single view on 7 December and none since. Thryduulf (talk) 01:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete due to lack of pageviews. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 13:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Genera+ion (upcoming TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Genera+ion (upcoming TV series) → Generation (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete in the spirit of WP:UFILM. Subject was released in 2021, redirect has virtually no page views. Steel1943 (talk) 23:46, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. The page view stats link in the header isn't working (I'm guessing the + is causing issues, even thought it's escaped?) this link works for me. Thryduulf (talk) 01:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete slowly. Another one with a long tail, but the views have all-but ceased for this, with just occasional days with 1 or 3 views (but never 2). Thryduulf (talk) 01:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UFILM and the lack of pageviews. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 13:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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The Covenant (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The Covenant (upcoming film) → Guy Ritchie's The Covenant (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:UFILM. Released almost 8 months ago, virtually no page view noise. Steel1943 (talk) 23:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. The page views indicate this redirect's utility ended in early November. Thryduulf (talk) 01:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UFILM and the lack of pageviews. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 13:32, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Heart of Stone (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Heart of Stone (upcoming film)">Heart of Stone (upcoming film) → Heart of Stone (2023 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:UFILM. Released over 4 months ago, virtually no page view noise. Steel1943 (talk) 23:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. The last stragglers seem to have used this redirect late last month. Thryduulf (talk) 01:14, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UFILM and the lack of pageviews. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 13:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Fast and Loose (upcoming film)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 19%23Fast and Loose (upcoming film)

Silver Wings (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Silver Wings (upcoming film)">Silver Wings (upcoming film) → Thomas Kail (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Though this redirect is mentioned at the target article in a chart, assuming that readers could be attempting to look for this potential film's director when searching for the film seems to be a bit misleading. Also, the reference that is citing the mention of this redirect in the target article was from 2017, and it does not seem as though any more material regarding the subject of this redirect has been created or added to Wikipedia from then to now. From what I am seeing online, seems the subject of this redirect is intended to be a remake of a subject called Silver Wings, Flying Dreams (https://www.silverwings-flyingdreams.com/), which is a documentary series that aired on PBS in 2015, but it does not seem as though that subject "Silver Wings, Flying Dreams" is mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 23:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete if there is no better target, per WP:R. And I should note that it doesn't belong in the filmography per WP:FILMOGRAPHY, as it has not entered production. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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Violent music
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 11:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Violent music → Popular music (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I do not think this is an appropriate redirect. There does not seem to be any discussion in the target article of violent music. It is possible there could be a more appropriate target for this redirect, however there has been frequent discussion of violent themes in multiple musical generas including Heavy metal music, Hip hop music, and specific sub-generas of each of those. In other words, I don't think there is a more appropriate redirect target. There is potential for an article on this topic, and I think having it be a redirect to popular music discourages the potential creation of an article on this topic. Lastly, this redirect was created in October of 2005 as part of what appears to be a spree of IP vandalism. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 18:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That does not look like a spree of vandalism from the creator - every edit bar the last two is adding interwiki links to the Finnish Wikipedia (how it was done back in the pre-Wikidata days), the second last was reverting vandalism and then there was the creation of this redirect in what appears to be good faith. Thryduulf (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Thryduulf Special:DeletedContributions/80.186.232.102 ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * To be a little more specific; on October 23, they created a bunch of redirects to things like suicide, clinical depression, brain cancer, etc. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:38, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. There are lots of mentions of this around Wikipedia, but nothing that would make a good target for a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 19:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
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Delta-Theta (symbol)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 19%23Delta-Theta (symbol)

File:Veera 2011 poster hd.jpg
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Hey man im josh (talk) 12:52, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * [[File:Veera 2011 poster hd.jpg]] → File:Veera 2011 poster.jpg (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Why the extra hd label? Doesn't add anything, and file names should be minimal. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  12:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Shouldn’t this be retained as an R from move, given that the file was at this title from 2012 until today? Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  12:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thryduulf (talk) 12:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT and . Thryduulf (talk) 12:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT. Cremastra (talk) 13:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT and . Steel1943  (talk) 23:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
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L'Etat c'est moi
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to L'État, c'est moi. Very clearly the desired target. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 13:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * L'Etat c'est moi → Louis XIV (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to L'État, c'est moi because the "L'État, c'est moi" article is more relevant to the redirect title (R without diacritics) Silcox (talk) 06:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. Mathglot (talk) 08:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 11:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, and tag as R avoided double redirect of L'Etat, c'est moi (and R from incorrect punctuation). Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  11:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
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2012 World Series of Poker Online Main Event
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:01, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * 2012 World Series of Poker Online Main Event → World Series of Poker (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely redirect. From way too specific to way too general. Acebulf (talk &#124; contribs)  04:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete we have no content about online World Series of Poker events prior to 2020 as far as I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 11:13, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * See also Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 14. Thryduulf (talk) 03:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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IL-5 antibody
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Interleukin 5. (non-admin closure)  Queen   of   Hearts ❤️  (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 05:57, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * IL-5 antibody → Mepolizumab (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are several drugs that are antibodies against Interleukin-5, but I'm not sure a dab page or set index would be helpful because none of them are commonly referred to as "IL-5 antibody" (because it's too ambiguous). (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:46, 4 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:53, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * I’ve left invitations to this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pharmacology and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  11:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This shouldn't be deleted. I believe there are only two anti-interleukin monoclonal antibodies for IL-5 on the market right now:  Mepolizumab and Reslizumab.  There is also one mab against the IL-5 receptor ("IL-5R"), Benralizumab.  A short disambiguation page would be a simple solution, if anything really needs to be done about it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * DAB per WAID. Since there's more than one plausible target, it shouldn't stay as a redirect to a single page. The topic area would be premature for a set index page. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Instead of a dab why not redirect to Interleukin_5 where the antibodies are all covered? (t &#183; c)  buidhe  01:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, that works. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * redirect to Interleukin_5 per Buidhe--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Test seat
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 18%23Test seat