Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 15

December 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 15, 2023.

Taylor's boyfriend
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . 🎵 Got a long list of ex-lovers... 🎵 --  Tamzin  &#91;cetacean needed&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 22:09, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Taylor's boyfriend → Travis Kelce (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Taylor Swift's boyfriend → Travis Kelce (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Taylor Swift boyfriend → Travis Kelce (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Taylors boyfriend → Travis Kelce (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Taylor swifts boyfriend → Travis Kelce (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirects created by a user who seems to be on a mission to frame Travis Kelce's biography as only relevant for being the current romantic partner of Taylor Swift. I'm suggesting these be deleted because they are vague: Swift is somewhat well known for frequent short romances and unverified dating rumours; I don't think it's appropriate for any of these to target a specific individual over all the others, and it is not discussed in her biography. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually that's not right: Taylor Swift does discuss several of her romantic relationships throughout the article, and would be a suitable target for the "Taylor Swift's boyfriend" titles. The "Taylor's boyfriend" titles are even more vague and should be deleted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, the accuracy and usefulness of these redirects rely on the stability of their relationship, which is something Wikipedia editors have no control over and can change on a whim. Redirects should be built to last and not require constant upkeep and maintenance. If they break up and start dating new people or have an ambiguous situation, then these redirects become problematic, bordering on BLP violations. Left guide (talk) 22:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * del all nonencyclopedic, nondefining, arbitrary phrase. - Altenmann >talk 23:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all, she's had a number of other boyfriends. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 23:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all as redirects that will need regular maintenance. Steel1943  (talk) 23:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Ambiguous, non-defining. Was about to nominate this myself, also came across Kamala Harris' husband in the same vein which I think should also be deleted. Gotitbro (talk) 03:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 22%23📗

2-dimensional space
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 * The result of the discussion was improper nomination  . WP:RFD is not a board for notifications regarding discussions occurring on WikiProject talk pages. It also is unhelpful to promote the potential for discussion to occur at two different venues per WP:DISCUSSFORK, even though the nominator clearly stated that was not their intent: Opening a discussion on any WP:XFD forum is literally opening a new discussion by their very nature. In addition, it's not clear if listing this on WP:RFD promoted any additional discussion due to readers seeing the nomination. If there is a determination that WP:RFD will be the only place to discuss this redirect, the redirect can be renominated without prejudice. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 20:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * 2-dimensional space → Euclidean plane (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pinging ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. Please discuss it there, not here -- thanks! (The present nomination is for redirect "Two-dimensional space" to be retargeted to dab page Two-dimensional space (disambiguation).) fgnievinski (talk) 04:51, 7 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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2-space
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 * The result of the discussion was improper nomination  . WP:RFD is not a board for notifications regarding discussions occurring on WikiProject talk pages. It also is unhelpful to promote the potential for discussion to occur at two different venues per WP:DISCUSSFORK, even though the nominator clearly stated that was not their intent: Opening a discussion on any WP:XFD forum is literally opening a new discussion by their very nature. In addition, it's not clear if listing this on WP:RFD promoted any additional discussion due to readers seeing the nomination. If there is a determination that WP:RFD will be the only place to discuss this redirect, the redirect can be renominated without prejudice. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 20:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * 2-space → Surface (topology) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pinging ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. Please discuss it there, not here -- thanks! (The present nomination is for redirect "Two-dimensional space" to be retargeted to dab page Two-dimensional space (disambiguation).) fgnievinski (talk) 04:50, 7 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment, what do you want to be done with this redirect at RfD? Utopes (talk / cont) 19:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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YouTube guru
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . This does not preclude (but also does not endorse) a recreation pointing to Shorty Awards or a related article if the term becomes mentioned there. --  Tamzin  &#91;cetacean needed&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 21:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * YouTube guru → YouTube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * YouTube Guru → YouTube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Youtube guru → YouTube (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Really doesn't need a dedicated redirect. Gurus about Youtube are not mentioned at the target page, nor could I imagine any of the content at the target page being useful in finding information about such. We don't have Twitter guru as a redirect to twitter, so I don't know why it'd be different here. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: For consideration of the prose mentions brought up by Jay. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless and unplausible search terms. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 08:31, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: lack of mention on target page makes these virtually useless; a redlink would provide better info IMO. Doerakpoes (talk) 12:26, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all per above; no good target. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 19:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Not useless and unplausible. YouTube Guru is an award category of Shorty Awards, but while the article doesn't mention it, the individual Shorty Awards articles do. Baskaran Pillai has also been called The YouTube Guru by Time magazine. Jay  💬 08:37, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * IMO guru and Guru must be distinguished.
 * redirect Youtube guru to YouTuber] because the term has no specific meaning covered in depth in sources: Youtube guru is simply a collocation YouTube + guru. - Altenmann >talk 19:46, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * redirect Youtube Guru, YouTube Guru to Shorty Awards and expand the latter one with award categories, because I see in Wikipedia this usage is common. - Altenmann >talk 19:46, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all as unmentioned and per WP:REDLINK considering the existence of the award. Regarding the above suggestion, having these target two different locations, regardless of capitalization, could be confusing if only one of them has such a name. Steel1943  (talk) 19:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all: per nom. Idiosincrático (talk) 23:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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MeatBall
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Meatball (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * MeatBall → MeatballWiki (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It's not clear to me why this doesn't just redirect to meatball, as the alternate capitalization is not mentioned in the current target article, nor is it commonly used elsewhere online. Currently this redirect might generate confusion for readers. ~Liancetalk 19:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Either retarget to Meatball (disambiguation) or delete. I agree the current target can be misleading. However, the subject at Meatball is virtually never referred to with a capital "B", even erroneously, meaning I do not believe the food item is what readers are attempting to locate when utilizing a capital "B" (WP:DIFFCAPS). Another issue is that it seems that none of the subjects currently listed at Meatball (disambiguation) utilize a capital "B" either, which is why if redirecting to the disambiguation page doesn't work, deletion is probably the best option here (and I rarely say this for a redirect with a capitalization variation because usually WP:CHEAP would apply, but there seems to be a valid case here to claim the capital "B" causes more harm than ... well, lack of harm.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:29, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * retarget to disambig, because we really dont know whether capital B is intentional or just typo. - Altenmann >talk 19:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is not old enough to be a R from CamelCase and MeatballWiki is not spelled with a capital B, although an edit summary in one of the redirect edits suggests that maybe that's a plausible error? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Meatball (disambiguation)  -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 07:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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 * Note after the fact: "MeatBall" is the interwiki prefix for MeatballWiki. See Interwiki map. The redirect would have been added here in 2004 for informational purposes. However, linking to it that way is now functionally extinct. —  Scott  •  talk  18:46, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Additional note after the fact: although at the time I created the redirect Wikipedia no longer used CamelCase for links, many other wikis still did, including the meatball wiki itself. Both "MeatballWiki" and "MeatBall" are spellings of the name which exist only for that purpose; in prose, it is simply "the meatball wiki". I have no particular opinion on what to do with the redirect now though. - IMSoP (talk) 18:13, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Cerebra
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Cerebrum and move history  . I've done this by moving the redirect to Cerebra (character) and then recreating Cerebra with the new target. --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 21:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Cerebra → X-Men 2099 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Cerebrum as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT and a R from plural. The issue here is ... that this redirect is a R with history, and years of it; this title formerly held an article created in 2004 about an X-Men character before the article was subject to a WP:BLAR in 2020. If the proposed retargeting occurs, the edit history may need to be moved to a title such as Cerebra (X-Men character). Steel1943 (talk) 18:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Either retarget to Cerebrum or make a new article: Cerebra (character). Hansen Sebastian Talk 14:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Ascalon(guild wars)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 21:11, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ascalon(guild wars)">Ascalon(guild wars) → Guild Wars (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to lack of space between title and disambiguator. However, somewhat similar variants with porkier spacing and/or capitalization, Ascalon (guild wars) and Ascalon (Guild Wars), do not exist ... but they probably should not anyways as this redirect apparently refers to the content formerly at the redirect Ghosts of Ascalon, which targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 18:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as typical WP:RDAB. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:03, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete it was an article for about a minute in 2009 and didn't contain any useful content.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Battle lion
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  Jay  💬 21:17, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Battle lion → Guild Wars (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article's subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 18:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to List_of_He-Man_and_the_Masters_of_the_Universe_characters where a character of the same name is mentioned. Weak since said character is Battle Lion. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, draft provided. There's another use at Panduvamshis of Dakshina Kosala. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:22, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm also fine with a dab -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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Gumby "Fun Special" redirects
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 22%23Gumby "Fun Special" redirects

The All-New Gumby
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 21:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The All-New Gumby → Gumby (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what this redirect is meant to refer to or defined ... Which in effect leaves readers both unsatisfied if they are trying to look up information regarding the subject of this redirect, as well as potentially scratching their heads trying to figure out why they were redirected to the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Elementalist
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Elementalist → Guild Wars (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Considering that the target article does not add up quickly identify the subject of this redirect, in addition to this term being mentioned in multiple articles in Wikipedia that are unrelated to the current target, though the term "elemantalist" does not seem to be defined adequately in any of them. Seems as though this title has some WP:REDLINK potential if an adequate target encompassing the term in general cannot be found. (However, this redirect was an article for approximately 3 days in 2010: I'm not sure if this revision is a good starting point for a potential article.) Steel1943  (talk) 17:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Draft provided. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:44, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Cerebrum(brain struture)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 21:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Cerebrum(brain struture)">Cerebrum(brain struture) → Cerebrum (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per both WP:RDAB due to the lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator, and since "struture" is not a word, making this redirect even more unlikely. (I'm assuming the word is meant to be "structure", but the equivalents, Cerebrum (brain structure) and Cerebrum(brain structure), so not exist either.) Also, the properly-spaced variant, Cerebrum (brain struture), does not exist. Steel1943 (talk) 17:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete redirects completely unnecessary as just Cerebrum targets the page; and there is no other use.--Iztwoz (talk) 17:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: two errors. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete it was at this title for a day and a bit in 2007.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB and incorrect disambiguator. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: No value whatsoever in keeping it: it was a one-time erroneous name that was no doubt accidentally created, and has no conceivable value in "finding" Cerebrum. —Quondum 19:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Bandar Bukti Tinggi LRT station
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 21:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Bandar Bukti Tinggi LRT station → Klang Jaya LRT station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as it is wrong spelling  angys  (Talk Talk) 16:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: misspelling of incorrect station name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Misspelt. Hansen Sebastian Talk 14:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Republic of Benin (1967-1967)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 21:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Republic of Benin (1967-1967)">Republic of Benin (1967-1967) → Republic of Benin (1967) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search term based on the strange use a range in the title. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:PANDORA since this ain't WP:CHEAP at all. Steel1943  (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for the unnecessary/unlikely modifier. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Chanterelle (Paper Mario)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Chanterelle (Paper Mario)">Chanterelle (Paper Mario) → Paper Mario (video game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Minor fictional character in the Paper Mario universe that's not mentioned at the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: The discussion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 12 for the redirect Characters in the Paper Mario series is most likely related to this discussion. Some options at that discussion presented thus far are to restore the article in the edit history of that redirect; if that occurs, the redirect nominated in this discussion would most likely best benefit being retargeted there. Steel1943  (talk) 16:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Steel1943: The list has been restored, but it does not mention this character. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 21:43, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete as unmentioned. Steel1943  (talk) 21:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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Pop Diva (Paper Mario)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pop Diva (Paper Mario)">Pop Diva (Paper Mario) → Paper Mario (video game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Minor fictional character in the Paper Mario universe that's not mentioned at the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: The discussion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 12 for the redirect Characters in the Paper Mario series is most likely related to this discussion. Some options at that discussion presented thus far are to restore the article in the edit history of that redirect; if that occurs, the redirect nominated in this discussion would most likely best benefit being retargeted there. Steel1943  (talk) 16:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. The page in my previous comment was restored, but still no mention. Steel1943  (talk) 23:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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Bureau Enquêtes Accidents- BEAmer
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 21:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Bureau Enquêtes Accidents- BEAmer">Bureau Enquêtes Accidents- BEAmer → Bureau d'Enquêtes sur les Événements de Mer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bureau Enquetes Accidents- BEAmer → Bureau d'Enquêtes sur les Événements de Mer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. These are a combination of the ambiguous part of the title of the office, followed by the full acronym, the equivalent of redirecting Accident Invesitgation Branch- MAIB to Marine Accident Investigation Branch and as such I don't think they are useful redirects at all. The page views tool isn't loading for me at the moment so I can't check if they have been used, but I doubt it. Note that if not deleted these should be retargetted to French Marine Accident Investigation Office and marked as a of Bureau d'Enquêtes sur les Événements de Mer. Thryduulf (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:05, December 15, 2023‎ (UTC)
 * Delete, (mildly) malformed and not useful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:05, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Pеdо
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . –  bradv  20:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pеdо">Pеdо → Pedophilia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what is happening here, some obscure unicode character hack? Seems like a bad idea to create redirects from similar-looking but basically unused character combinations, but perhaps I'm missing something here? Note, we have a page Pedo which is not the same as this redirect, and which is not nominated for deletion. Note also that the same editor also created the below "gay" redirect... Fram (talk) 09:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah, these two and a third one already up for deletion as well were apparently created to be able to add a "funny" line on their user page,. I have removed it... Fram (talk) 09:46, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete mixed script lemma (Latin P, Cyrillic е, Latin d, Cyrillic о) and thus an unlikely search term with no good reason to exist as a redirect. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 10:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mixed script redirects are very rarely useful, this is not an exception. Thryduulf (talk) 10:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Considering this redirect was created to target Blue Archive, I would have tossed a Db-g3 tag on the redirect while the redirect targeted its initial page and called it a day. Steel1943  (talk) 16:42, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * delete. Implausible search term. - Altenmann >talk 19:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Gаy
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . –  bradv  20:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Gаy">Gаy → Gay (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what is happening here, some obscure unicode character hack? Seems like a bad idea to create redirects from similar-looking but basically unused character combinations, but perhaps I'm missing something here? Fram (talk) 09:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete mixed script lemma (Latin G, Cyrillic а, Latn y) and thus an unlikely search term with no good reason to exist as a redirect. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 10:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mixed script redirects are very rarely useful, this is not an exception. Thryduulf (talk) 10:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Considering this redirect was created to target Genshin Impact, I would have tossed a Db-g3 tag on the redirect while the redirect targeted its initial page and called it a day. Steel1943  (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * del implausible search input. - Altenmann >talk 19:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Thank you veddy much
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you veddy much → Latka Gravas (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Comedy catchphrase not mentioned at the target article. The inclusion of "veddy" in place of "very" is already a dubious and implausible spelling, and I can't imagine this way of typing would be someone's best thought in regards to searching for an article about Latka Gravas. When I saw this, I presumed it was just a way of saying "thank you very much" in an alternate dialect that didn't actually belong to anyone in particular. There is Thank You Very Much which is a disambiguation page, but I would recommend deletion as an impossible target to pin down. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: One more try. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 09:10, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible search term. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, definitely don't retarget. All the google hits for this exact phrase refer to the target character so if the redirect exists it should point at the current target. The question then is whether this is a notable catchphrase, and I'm on the fence about that - google results suggest it possibly is but the lack of mention in the article (which is not a reason on its own to delete) suggest otherwise. On balance I think it's more helpful to have this than search results, which won't help anyone searching for this. Thryduulf (talk) 12:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems our search results are different then, because quote results for Andy Kaufman and a line from the Transformers came up before Gravas did. And even then, for me (even putting it in quotes) the results were general websites about saying "thank you" that appeared above all else. Even with these results though, I'm not convinced that any of these are worthy of drawing the target; it's a subjective phonetic spelling of a common phrase. A person pronouncing an "r" as a "d/t" I don't think is worth the redirect to such person. Not to mention that "thank you vedy much", "thank you vetty much", and "thank you vety much" are all possible hearings of the same quote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Utopes (talk • contribs) 20:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The Andy Kaufman quotes are for this character, because Andy Kaufman portrayed this character. Even the search "Thank you veddy much" "Andy Kaufman" -"Gravas" -"Taxi", which should exclude this character, produces only hits related to Andy Kaufman playing this character. The only way I can find results where this character is not the primary topic for the exact phrase is explicitly excluding all the search terms related to this character, and then there is clearly no other usage that comes close - all the hits on the first page are for different topics (one of them being this character).
 * Whether there are other plausible renderings of the quote is completely irrelevant, we're discussing what people are looking for when they search this spelling, and they are either looking for this character or something we have no coverage of. Thryduulf (talk) 06:13, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep per Thryduulf. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
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Consumer fraud
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 * The result of the discussion was converted to article  .  Jay  💬 09:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Consumer fraud → Fraud (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neither specified nor even mentioned as such in target. Hildeoc (talk) 08:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm very surprised we don't have an article or section on this topic. We do have Category:Consumer fraud but that contains articles about specific types of consumer fraud and specific examples of consumer fraud. Possibly a set index would work? Thryduulf (talk) 10:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * And I am very surprized that wikipedians instead of idle chat did not write a decent stub. Sources abound. This was not happening in my old times, when most editors wrote articles instead of wikignoming. - Altenmann >talk 18:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I invite y'all to expand the article Consumer fraud I quickstarted. There are plenty of sources. Also it looks like some articles in category:Fraud must be reclassified to category: Consumer fraud - Altenmann >talk 18:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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They're eating her. And then they're going to eat me. Oh my God!
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="They're eating her. And then they're going to eat me. Oh my God!">They're eating her. And then they're going to eat me. Oh my God! → Troll 2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While this is certainly a hilarious moment from this movie, this quote has no mention at the target article and thusly has dubious usefulness as a redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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You put that ice cream in your mouth and you are in very, very big trouble
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="You put that ice cream in your mouth and you are in very, very big trouble">You put that ice cream in your mouth and you are in very, very big trouble → Kramer vs. Kramer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Film quote not mentioned at the target article. References to ice cream are made, but to this degree of specificity there does not seem to be any reason to justify its existence as an entire line of a movie redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This is so funny people are discussing about the deletion of the redirects I made back in 2021 😆 RTSthestardust (talk) 13:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ...Umm, age is not a factor when it comes to discussing pages in any WP:XFD forum. Anything can be nominated, and the pages can be as old as the creation of Wikipedia. Steel1943  (talk) 16:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Steel1943: Age is actually one of the factors for keeping a redirect, K4 (albeit, with regards to the current case, a redirect from 2021 might not be considered reasonably old). And redirects from old versions of the project are kept as redirects with old history. Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  16:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A redirect being problematic or erroneous does not automatically resolve itself with age. I apologize if this comes off kind of blunt, but: There is absolutely no reason to place that red herring in this discussion because this is obviously not a R with old history. That, and "reasonable old" around here in RfD ... usually means created before 2005 and/or usually only applies to redirects in the main space that are structured like subpages or redirects that can be tagged with R from CamelCase. (If you have any additional questions about RfD, feel free to let me know: I've been participating here regularly [with a few exceptions] since 2012.) Steel1943  (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Steel1943 I’m sorry if anything I said earlier came across badly or was worded poorly. Apologies as well if the mention of old history was poor on my part; to be clear, I was responding to your general comment that the pages can be as old as the creation of Wikipedia rather than intending to relate it to this specific redirect (for clarity, I have no opinion on whether this redirect should be kept or deleted, I was just glancing at the log and saw your comment & decided to reply). All the best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  17:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, seems like this was a situation where your involvement in the discussion resulted in you getting hit with figurative crossfire. Happens from time to time to everyone, myself included. Cheers. Steel1943  (talk) 21:43, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This simply means that nobody run into it, meaning it is useless. - Altenmann >talk 20:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Therefore every redirect created before 2022 should be deleted?  J 947  ‡ edits 08:04, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


 * del implausible search term. - Altenmann >talk 19:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?">Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite? → Reservoir Dogs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Quote that is not mentioned at the target article. "Gonna", "bark", and "doggie" are not mentioned anywhere either. Does not seem to be a useful redirect for a regular line from the film. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * del implausible search term. - Altenmann >talk 19:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Autiphobia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Autiphobia → Ableism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target article, or any article on Wikipedia for that matter. As a further extension, I could not find any usage of this word in reliable sources. It's not too bad as a phonetic spelling of Autophobia, to which it is one letter off. That said, the only place this spelling I was able to find anywhere was on Tumblr, in one post where it was quite literally up against multiple options. In any case, it's not mentioned or defined on Wikipedia. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:56, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I vote that it be deleted. If in the future autism-related ableism becomes more of a talking-point in sources, to the point that this term is used in a more reliable source, we can reinstate it then. Edderiofer (talk) 17:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and criterion #8 of WP:R: this is an extremely obscure term for discrimination against autistic people. Its use as a typo of Autophobia is even rarer. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 14:12, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Bedrock Detroit
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 22%23Bedrock Detroit

Wesley Kimmel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 07:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Wesley Kimmel → Diary of a Wimpy Kid Christmas: Cabin Fever (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Wesley Kimmel is featured in multi films covered on Wikipedia, and has many mentions onwiki besides the most recent Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Would be better to leave as a red link to encourage article creation, as summing it up to one role is less than ideal. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * del. By the way, the notability is questionable. - Altenmann >talk 20:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Garnier fruits
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget Garnier fruits and Delete the other two. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:39, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Garnier fruits → Jodi No.1 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Garnier fruits jodi number 1 → Jodi No.1 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Garnier fruits jodi number one → Jodi No.1 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear target. Don't know how this brand relates to either the Indian film or Indian reality series. Natg 19 (talk) 18:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 12:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget Garnier fruits to Garnier, which has a line of fruit-based products (even though this is not yet mentioned in the stubby article). Delete the other two. BD2412  T 18:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Delete or retarget the "jodi number" redirects? Also notified of the discussion at the talk page of alternative target Jodi No.1 (TV series). Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 07:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget Garnier fruits to Garnier per BD2412; and due to the fact that it’s been getting pageviews over the course of its existence since 2008, indicating that it’s being used as a search term (K3, K5). It’s not ideal that the target wouldn’t mention the product line being redirected from, but at least it’d give readers some information on the brand itself. I’m still evaluating the other two, but on a brief search, the connection may be something to do with this. Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  18:46, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * With regards to Garnier fruits jodi number 1 and Garnier fruits jodi number one, I’m getting the impression that Garnier Fructis Jodi No.1 might have been an (old) alternative name for Jodi No.1 (TV series) - e.g., . However, I don’t know if I’d consider myself knowledgeable enough in the topic area to leave a !vote for those. I’ll leave an invitation to this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian television. Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow  19:57, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to this discussion not having received that many extra comments, I’ve decided I’m going to !vote after all - retarget Garnier fruits jodi number one & Garnier fruits jodi number 1 to Jodi No.1 (TV series), which is what the sources I found seem to connect them to. The phrase seems to exist, and I’m thinking it might be worth keeping the redirects as potentially useful search terms to someone who knows the show by that name (per WP:R). (The redirects have also existed since 2008, which by my understanding also engages K4.)If an editor finds evidence that these redirects could be confusing/harmful, a second discussion at RfD can always be opened; however, I’m not inclined to support deletion when I haven’t found any such evidence (e.g., that this phrase could refer to something else) myself, and none has been referenced by anyone else in the discussion - I don’t want to !vote to delete a redirect just on the idea that there could potentially be such evidence. Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 00:39, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * If retargeted as proposed, Garnier fruits could be tagged . --BDD (talk) 20:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget Garnier fruits to Garnier, delete the others. In my experience, I've found that it's common for Indian shows to have title sponsors, but for their common name to be the "base" title. That seems to be the case here, making those redirects not particularly useful. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @TechnoSquirrel69 Forgive me if I’m missing something here, but if the sponsored title was as the other redirects are, would they not be worth keeping as potentially useful search terms to someone who knows of the show by the sponsored title? (As in, have the article at the WP:COMMONNAME, and have the sponsored title as an R from alt name) Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 00:16, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You're not missing anything — and I'm not too worried if we decide to keep them either — but it's my opinion that exceedingly few people would find those redirects useful, especially at the somewhat unusually formatted titles they're at now. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:35, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget Garnier fruits to Garnier as avoided redirect to Garnier Fructis per BDD. Delete the other two, as indicated by the pageviews from 2015. There is no indication that readers look for the TV show as prefixed by Garnier "fruits". An external search for "Garnier fruits" +jodi brings up only wikipedia mirrors or derivants. If there is evidence that the redirects are plausible search terms, I can change my vote. Jay  💬 08:49, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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Ulrich (died 1408 or 1409)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 07:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ulrich (died 1408 or 1409)">Ulrich (died 1408 or 1409) → List of people executed for homosexuality in Europe (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With the unknown death year, I'm not super convinced that putting both years into the disambiguator would be the natural thing to do, and feels implausible to type normally. It's given in this format because the year is unknown and both are present at the target list, but surely there's a more natural solution, if any. It could require a (died 1408) and a separate (died 1409) version, or maybe there's nothing to do about it, but I figured I'd open the floor here if anything needs to be done, because I've never seen anything like this title before. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems harmless. Especially centuries on, sometimes we can be fairly confident that one of two dates is right. It was a complete coincidence that this came up in a general search, but consider this illuminated manuscript in the Met dated "1405–1408/1409". With people, this would also come up if we have a firm birth year and an age at death, though that does not seem to be the case for this person.
 * Put another way, if we ever had a standalone article on this person, this is a plausible title for him—or a fine redirect if the title were Ulrich (died 1408/1409). I couldn't find a concrete example of such a title with a brief search, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were already one out there. --BDD (talk) 20:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Nothing wrong here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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I don't have friend
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . Has been deleted by G3 as vandalism. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 20:10, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't have friend → The Vexations of a Shut-In Vampire Princess (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure what the intention was here but this phrase isn't at the target article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk ) 06:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * delete it looks like User:Man In M1A1 was having fun. - Altenmann >talk 19:54, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Area code 543
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 29%23Area code 543

Blockchain Creative Labs
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 23%23Blockchain Creative Labs

Lilet Attias: Attorney-at-Law
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Lilet Attias: Attorney-at-Law → Lilet Matias: Attorney-at-Law (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no attorney named Lilet Attias. Was only at this title as a redirect before the redirect itself was moved by the creator (meaning it could possibly be G7-able), so there was never any encyclopedic content at this title. It seems improbable for this title to be a regular typo, so unless there's some deeper story behind it, I feel it's too implausible to keep with the double-letter-difference. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:42, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * "Attias" was a typo. TheHotwiki (talk) 07:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete this error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:16, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Miles Marsico
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Miles Marsico → Jason and the Heroes of Mount Olympus (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This person is in several movies and TV shows that are covered on Wikipedia, with many mentions onwiki. Would seem to be more ideal to leave as a red link to encourage article creation, rather than redirecting to one film that Marsico was a part of. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:56, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * delete. Also I question the notability of the person. - Altenmann >talk 19:57, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Efilism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  for want of a mention in any article. If a mention is added somewhere, this may be recreated pointing there. --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 04:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Efilism → Antinatalism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Misuse of PROD by a user; concern was:

The same user also blanked the page at 22:37, 13 December 2023, arguing: Removed redirect to Antinatalism. There was no agreement on the merit of such a redirect on the respective Talk:Antinatalism. Please seek consensus before making such changes. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * del unclear target. Dubious notability of the concept. - Altenmann >talk 20:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. No mention in any enwiki article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Captain Sum Ting Wong
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Captain Sum Ting Wong → Asiana Airlines Flight 214 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wi Tu Lo → Asiana Airlines Flight 214 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ho Lee Fuk → Asiana Airlines Flight 214 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bang Ding Ow → Asiana Airlines Flight 214 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Also mentioned equally (once) at KTVU. I feel pointing at the news station is likely more preferable, due to it being the location where this segment was aired with these names. The names have no connection to the airlines, as the people don't exist. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose since those are search terms. बिनोद थारू (talk) 01:04, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose As the creator of the Captain Sum Ting Wong redirect (due to the fact that it didn't exist when I created it a few months ago), I concur with बिनोद थारू. JeffSpaceman (talk) 02:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Link the two sections with a hatnore if necessary. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:22, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm responsible for the current target (see previous RfD). The proposed alternate target would also be reasonable, but I don't see why it's better than the current one. The KTVU hoax is probably more central to the crash's article than KTVU's. In fact I'd venture it gets undue weight at KTVU. I've reviewed a few of Sammi Brie's TV station GAs, and small controversies like that usually wind up with 1–3 sentences. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 05:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It's astounding to see a TV news operation article with a Controversies section. That should be remedied, though I still believe one paragraph would be retained because this controversy was national news. At some point, KTVU needs the Sammi treatment, which would likely result in a very, very large page indeed. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 05:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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Final Fantasy XVII
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe&#124;she) 04:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Final Fantasy XVII → Final Fantasy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is frankly too early to have this as a redirect, from my POV. There is no mention of 17 (in a FF title context) or XVII anywhere at the target page; FF16 is in full swing and there is no confirmation that there will even be a 17th, despite it seeming likely, maybe in like 2028 at earliest. In the meantime, this is not a useful redirect, and its existence indicates that we have some insider scoop or any material at all about FF17, when we do not. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This redirect has a really weird edit history that represents a completely different subject. If anything, it seems as though this page should have been deleted per Db-u1 at its original title. Steel1943  (talk) 18:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Genderphobia
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 22%23Genderphobia

Lucky Girl syndrome
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 25%23Lucky Girl syndrome

Robear
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 22%23Robear

Pico SI Prefix
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 22%23Pico SI Prefix

Needle alive
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy retarget  . Withdrawing for now. I did not notice at first, but "airspeed alive" does have its own entry at the list page in question (I presumed it was supposed to be inferred from "needle alive"). Because there is content at the list page and not at the current page, I'm going to WP:BOLDly retarget to the list page (with anchors). If reverted, can be discussed. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 01:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Needle alive → Airspeed (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Airspeed alive → Airspeed (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Alive" not mentioned at the target article. Among these two, the phrase "needle alive" is mentioned as an entry at List of established military terms, but "airspeed alive" is not. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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Aroused
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Arousal. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Aroused → Sexual arousal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

With the existence of a page for Arousal and also Sexual arousal, the verb form of the former I don't think should necessarily be pointed at the latter. Sexually aroused (oh wow that exists neat) is probably a redirect that would be better suited for the sexual variation of arousal, because one can become aroused during any sort of stimulation, through any means that aren't necessarily sexual. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to arousal. Left guide (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget as per Left guide. —Quondum 22:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Arousal as R from adjective. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Accustimisation
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Accustimisation → Habituation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Accustimization → Habituation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not particularly referred to at the target article, and the correctly spelled versions aren't pointed here either (they don't exist). Accustom is a wiktionary redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. When typing in, the search suggestion Accustom appears. This is sufficient; we do not need a full misspelling redirect (especially as the correctly spelled version does not exist).  —Quondum 18:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * delete pointless. One can make 42+ typos in this word. - Altenmann >talk 20:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * SPEEDY DELETE - This is completely pointless. Typing this word will result in Accustom appearing, and the typo/misspelling is not necessary to the search. Hansen Sebastian Talk 14:41, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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