Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 15

February 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 15, 2023.

Angelic Salutation
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 23%23Angelic Salutation

Liturgical renewal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 03:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Liturgical renewal → Liturgical Movement (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Liturgical renewal" is a vague generic term not exclusive to the specific historical movement of the "Liturgical Movement". There is no good retarget.

Therefore I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 22:52, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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2nd vatican
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * 2nd vatican → Second Vatican Council (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Second Vatican → Second Vatican Council (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not helpful redirects at all, they make no sense. I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 22:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This is very often referred to as simply "Vatican II", so these seem like reasonable search terms (ie not including "council"), and searching online it doesn't look like these are ambiguous with anything, so I think weak keep. A7V2 (talk) 23:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Seems like a clear/unambiguous WP:PTM situation. Steel1943  (talk) 00:15, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I've often heard this referred to as just "second Vatican". Skynxnex (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep per Skynxnex. Estar8806 (talk) 16:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep, plausible search term, especially for someone who has heard of the topic but doesn't know much about it and is trying to learn more. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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Phantom (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 22:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Phantom (upcoming film) → Phantom (2023 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer upcoming. Steel1943 (talk) 21:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 07:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 08:02, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UFILM. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Lut
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 * The result of the discussion was Lut (disambiguation) moved to Lut  per MALPLACED. (non-admin closure) Silikonz 💬  16:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Lut → Lot in Islam (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect to Lut (disambiguation), as part of Talk:Lot in Islam shuffling to use primary spelling and concerns there is no primary topic among diverse meanings. Alternately, will need to re-target to whatever that RM decides. DMacks (talk) 18:42, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Lut (disambiguation): there is no primary topic. Veverve (talk) 22:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * As per Shhhnotsoloud below: move Lut (disambiguation) to Lut (page swap). Veverve (talk) 10:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Lut (disambiguation) per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:29, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Lut can't redirect to Lut (disambiguation): it would be WP:MALPLACED. What should happen here is move Lut (disambiguation) to Lut (ie a page swap). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Genesis overclocking
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:24, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Genesis overclocking → Sega Genesis (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article doesn’t include any mention of overclocking the genesis. This redirect has a R from merge tag though it seems like the merged content got deleted from the main article. According to an edit summary, the merged content was located at a trivia section which would explain why the merged content was deleted from the main article. Including information about overclocking the Sega Genesis in the main article would most likely be trivial and would violate WP:NOTHOWTO. As such, I recommend we delete this redirect. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 17:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - I get it was the late 2000s-early 2010s when this article happened and was redirected, but even in consideration of WP:ATD, this should’ve been sent to AFD then and not simply redirected. Most computers can be overclocked - that’s not a concept unique to the Genesis as a video game console, but there is no notable coverage of home brewing a Genesis in such a fashion.  As it stands, the redirect just seems silly at this point, and as Sega Genesis is a FA that is considered complete without any mention of overclocking, such a redirect is not necessary and what’s in the page history is pretty much direction to an external link on how to do it.  Red Phoenix  <sup style="color: #FFA500">talk  18:11, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - not likely as a search term or likely to be covered in the target article. Sergecross73   msg me  18:37, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Anyone searching for this term won't be looking for the Wikipeda article on the Genesis. Really, all this ever pointed at was a bit of trivia. It was a trivia item explaining that overclocking is possible, but it only makes a difference on the small number of games that had existing performance problems. That's not even an interesting bit of trivia. ApLundell (talk) 19:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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Rickmat
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Bigfoot. Due-mention appears to have been added to the target. signed,Rosguill talk 21:24, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Rickmat → Bigfoot (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Does not appear to be a real search term. Not mentioned in the article. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 18:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:09, 7 February 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: The target has had multiple edits since then, but not on this subject. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 16:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This was an article which was redirected to the current target (note that the section is currently Bigfoot, and was about the hoax findings of Rick Dyer and Matthew Whitton. "Rickmat" as the name of the "corpse" was mentioned at the target (see ) as the name given to it by the two discoverers (with a now deadlink source which is archived, see ) but at some point this was removed. I'm not sure if any content from this article was merged, but in any case I think best to put back mention of the name citing the original press release, and fix the section heading but ultimately keep. A7V2 (talk) 00:28, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom., no mention et the target. Veverve (talk) 22:57, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If by the close of this RfD, the information added by A7V2 (see below) is kept, redirect to Bigfoot instead of deleting. Veverve (talk) 07:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment - I have readdded the name to the section Bigfoot. I strongly object to deletion due to the article history, especially since it may have been merged to the current target and so must be kept for attribution purposes. A7V2 (talk) 23:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hog Rider
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hog Rider → Clash Royale (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Originally created by me. Not mentioned at target page. This is a character that appears in two games (Clash of Clans and Clash Royale) so there is not even an obvious redirect target, as there is no Wikipedia list of troops/characters from this franchise. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 13:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G7. Failing that, delete per nom. A7V2 (talk) 23:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Ætheric
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 22%23Ætheric

Other shopping malls in Alberta
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 21:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Other shopping malls in Alberta → Category:Shopping malls in Alberta (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this is a cross-namespace redirect that is an unlikely search term. Clovermoss 🍀 (talk) 04:28, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Inclusion of the "other" is unnecessary. Like you said, it's not likely that anyone would search for this, especially considering how different it is from similar redirects to categories. - Cheers, KoolKidz112   (hit me up)  14:50, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per KoolKidz112; unnecessary redirect because of the inclusion of the word other. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 16:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: This seems to have been created for Malls in Alberta to be able to link other. If this is decided to be delete  on that page should be replaced with   <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 15:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Other than what? Can't assume it's clear what the "other" refers to. Steel1943  (talk) 20:47, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Bendis and Maleev
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 22%23Bendis and Maleev

Makudo
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 22%23Makudo

Epidemiology of IKBKAP in the United States
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 22%23Epidemiology of IKBKAP in the United States

Jia Morado-Morado-De Guzman
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 07:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Jia Morado-Morado-De Guzman → Jia Morado-De Guzman (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo/name. Most likely a mistake on the mover's part (mistakenly doubled Morado-?) '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 01:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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Untitled Marvel mutant-centered film
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 22%23Untitled Marvel mutant-centered film

Living memory
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 * The result of the discussion was restore  according to Skynxnex. (non-admin closure) Timothytyy (talk) 00:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Living memory → Contemporary history (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This could refer to any period until today. It could mean the last 100 years, 50 years, 25 years, and so on. I recommend that this redirect is at a different target or deleted. Interstellarity (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Move Living memory (disambiguation) here. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Restore to revision from 22:22, 20 December 2015 before a copy-and-paste move was done to Living memory (disambiguation) in the same minute by a user who then converted Living memory into the redirect it is now, in order to preserve history/attribution. Then restore Living memory (disambiguation) as a redirect to Living memory. Skynxnex (talk) 03:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Revert per User:Skynxnex. Good catch! - Eureka Lott 19:49, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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