Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 16

February 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 16, 2023.

Pinocchio (upcoming stop-motion film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:51, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Pinocchio (upcoming stop-motion film) → Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer upcoming. Steel1943 (talk) 22:04, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as no longer useful -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:25, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above: the redirect is not useful anymore. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:42, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Smash burger
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 23%23Smash burger

Improper point
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 26%23Improper point

Alex Shieh
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural close  as a problematic and misleading nomination. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 20:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Alex Shieh → Phillips Academy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect should be deleted because Alex Shieh currently bears no relation to the article and makes no sense. In a previous version of the article, Shieh was mentioned briefly in a single line as the founder of a club, but consensus has removed that piece from the page. Furthermore, the creator User:Stopasianhate repeatedly edits to Phillips Academy to put Shieh's name back onto the article, suggesting this redirect may also be a form of self-promotion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:b108:8df7:8c34:d691:6968:1890 (talk) 04:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Regards, SONIC 678 16:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Claimed user's contibs do not show any edits to the Phillips Academy article. Jalen Folf   (talk)  05:07, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment – IP's summary appears to be very misleading. This part of the article is currently getting reworked, and has been the subject of an edit war in the past few weeks. There does not seem to be consensus to keep or delete that part of the article, and Stopasianhate has made only one edit on the page so far, seemingly to revert the state of it prior to the recent disruptive edits though it did result in only the sentence mentioning Alex Shieh as the founder of a research institute being brought back.
 * It's perhaps too early to say whether Alex Shieh will be mentioned in the final version of the article or not. I would say delete until it's clear Alex Shieh's name will stay in the article, but the reverse of keeping until it's clear his name will not be kept on the article is reasonable as well. Randi Moth (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete- Alex Shieh's name does not currently appear in the article. I don't remember what the "Alex Shieh Institite" was, but I think that was a joke by one of his classmates and not a real thing. We can always make the redirect again if we need to. Round and rounder (talk) 21:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK {  {ping&#124; ClydeFranklin }} (t/c) 19:22, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Procedural close as a problematic RfD where the nomination appears to be misleading, and Round and rounder who removed mention from the article, and who is a participant, has been blocked as a sock. Jay  💬 07:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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You can't do this on Nintendo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 20:05, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * You can't do this on Nintendo → Sega Genesis (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article. Also created by a sockpuppet. G5 was declined. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - even when created (targeting the now removed Sega Genesis), while there were slogans in that section, this one was not among them . A7V2 (talk) 23:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete while that line came from the same ads as Genesis does what Nintendon't this doesn’t appear to be anywhere near as well known as that is.--70.24.249.205 (talk) 03:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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Trads
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Trad. (non-admin closure) {  {ping&#124; ClydeFranklin }} (t/c) 19:47, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Trads → Neo-Nazism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Was originally created back in 2016 as a redirect to Ivy League (clothes), which no longer contains a mention of this term. In 2022, it was retargeted to a new section of Neo-Nazism. However, that section's voracity was challenged at Talk:Neo-Nazism/Archive 5, and was removed with this edit, so no longer is mentioned there either.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 11:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Trad and tag as R from plural. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:43, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Trad and tag as R from plural per Presidentman. There's at least one plausible target there. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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CCEP
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Any arguments about a primary topic can be taken up in an RM discussion. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * CCEP → Coordinating Committee for Earthquake Prediction (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This isn't obviously the primary topic; Coca-Cola Europacific Partners seems to be also something that's plausibly a reasonable target for this acronym, but a dab page might also be warranted. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)"> Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as both seem equally plausible as search terms. An anonymous username, not my real name  16:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above: this seems to be the best option. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dabify per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and disambiguate using a hatnote. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Also add Canadian Center for Emergency Preparedness if disambiguating / hatnoting. Jay  💬 06:45, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per anonymous et al. Drafted DAB looks perfectly fine. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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List of Pubs in Orange, NSW
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 06:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="List of Pubs in Orange, NSW">List of Pubs in Orange, NSW → Orange, New South Wales (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no such list at the target or anywhere else, so delete. This was briefly an unsourced article (well, a source was added but this was to a category of a wiki which doesn't appear to have any mention of pubs ) which was quickly BLARed to the target which at that time did have a list, since removed. I don't think it is necessary to restore the article as it was unreferenced but if others feel that it is I am not opposed to it. A7V2 (talk) 05:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: BLARred article that was not merged in in any way. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 01:59, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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Endrum Anudan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 06:31, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Endrum Anudan → Tumhari Paakhi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned anywhere in target article. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  05:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Nashdale railway station
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 06:23, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Nashdale railway station → Orange, New South Wales (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of this station anywhere at the current target, nor was there when this redirect was created in 2014. I think best to delete. There is sort of mention at Broken Hill railway line, but I think this is an unsuitable target since no other station name redirects there (with many being redlinks) and since the only mention is in the line map which is collapsed by default. A7V2 (talk) 05:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Ümlaut
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 23%23Ümlaut

Apostolic Church (1911 denomination)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 04:23, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Apostolic Church (1911 denomination)">Apostolic Church (1911 denomination) → Apostolic Church (1916 denomination) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The denomination was founded in 1916, not 1911. Since this redirect is misleading, I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 13:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Please don't delere until all the incoming links have been fixed. StAnselm (talk) 18:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The article states that The earliest historians of the Apostolic Church date its beginnings to 1911 with a citation to this book. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:08, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per Presidentman. A7V2 (talk) 05:37, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Presidentman. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 08:04, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Presidentman's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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Unpaved road
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 2%23Unpaved road

Transwiki
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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect  to transwiki. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Transwiki → Wiki (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in section or page, don't see what transwiki has to do with this section. Rusalkii (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Soft Redirect to m:Help:Transwiki. It's also where Help:Transwiki points to -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:18, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That would be recreating something similar to the redirect previously deleted at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 19. Delete due to lack of mention. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:59, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That would probably be okay if this redirect was not in the article space. Since it is in the article space, it would probably be more appropriate to retarget this title to the Wiktionary. Steel1943  (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Non-mainspace "transwiki" redirects should probably continue to target Transwiki log rather than pointing to Meta. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Can't say I disagree with that... Steel1943  (talk) 21:51, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Soft retarget to transwiki per WP:SOFTSP as this title is apparently a recreation per Pppery. Steel1943  (talk) 21:46, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make much sense to me either. People looking for a definition of this obscure piece of Wiki-jargon are likely to know enough about namespaces so as to not use this search term. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmm valid point ... after I realized the link to "Help:Transwiki" on Wiktionary is for m:Help:Transwiki. I wonder ... I don't think we usually create disambiguation pages that are a mix of namespaces and/or sister projects, but it may be needed here. (This thought hasn't changed my current stance on the fate of this redirect though.) Steel1943  (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd be open to any fate for this page, but my stance is that this concept extends beyond mediawiki (and therefore solely-internal matters) and is encyclopedic; whether ww currently have content about it is orthogonal to the possibility of pointing an inquirer to at least the context within which the term is usable. Arlo James Barnes 07:33, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 21:26, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it should be mentioned and redirected to Deletion of articles on Wikipedia.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:33, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * If it were mentioned there I have no objection, but it isn't yet, and RfD cannot compel the addition of article content. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:07, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: One more go… Delete or soft redirect? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Seems to be an obscure piece of Wikimedia lingo without any good crosswiki target. No objection to retargeting if an encyclopedic mention is added. Clyde!Franklin! 21:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, the current target doesn't help, and the 2021 RfD had it deleted. However, do not leave it as a redlink this time, or it'll just be re-created. The redirect is used in several pages including in mainspace talk page debates and instructions (all outdated). I started off trying to pipe them to the Help page, but at one talk I saw that it was used in the context of the (defunct) WikiProject Transwiki, so was not sure where to pipe them all to. I also see another potential WP target Help:Interwiki linking which is already redirected from mainspace redirects Interwikimedia and Interwikimedia links. Interwiki link redirects to MediaWiki though. Jay  💬 05:53, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to wikt:transwiki. I imagine someone would be looking this up wondering what this means—the Wiktionary page provides the answer. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * I'm also okay with Soft retarget to transwiki as an alternative to my previous vote -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:41, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to transwiki per above. Also, the proposed target contains info about transwikiing. Mast303 (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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