Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 2

February 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 2, 2023.

Nongermane Amendments
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:31, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Nongermane Amendments → Rider (legislation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A lawmaker proposing to add a rider to a bill through an amendment during debate is indeed a nongermane amendment, but it is not mentioned at target; it is mentioned at Filibuster in the United States Senate but not described or defined. Given the incorrect capitalization and use of the plural, with related forms such as Nongermane amendment, Nongermane amendments, and Nongermade Amendment not existing, and there being no incoming links, deletion may be best. Alternatively, add a sourced mention somewhere and create the other versions of this term as redirects. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Having sex with
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:26, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Having sex with → Sexual intercourse (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Previous edit summary shows this redirect was only made to fix a redlink. Whatever page that redlink was on, the link could've been edited to target to that page instead. Also not sure how an incomplete sentence/phrase like this could be printworthy. Colgatepony234 (talk) 23:28, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not seem like a plausible search term. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:56, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete there are other ways to deal with redlinks.--70.24.249.205 (talk) 02:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Salad law
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 04:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Salad law → Rider (legislation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While I can see where this is coming from- a bill with a bunch of unrelated amendments mixed in becoming like a salad- there is no use of this term on enwiki, and a quick google search solely brings up hits related to actual salads. Suggest deletion unless it can be demonstrated this is an actual term used in reliable sources (and duly mentioned). Mdewman6 (talk) 23:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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Having sex with goats
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Having sex with goats → Zoophilia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yes, the redirect title is considered the act in the target page, but I do not see any other redirects besides this one that have the same format "having sex with X animal". Colgatepony234 (talk) 23:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete because the target has no significant discussion of goats, only a few passing mentions. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Internet Exploder
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 12%23Internet Exploder

Taurus cattle
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 9%23Taurus cattle

Goat penis
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:08, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Goat penis → Goat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seriously? I could see an anatomical justification for this one, but I'm probably biased after scrolling through several related entries to this general topic. I guess this one is open for discussion, but I'm thinking delete as a highly unlikely search term. TNstingray (talk) 22:53, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree that this redirect isn't very useful: this is just one of a few redirects about comparative anatomy that I created several years ago. I most likely created it by mistake, since this section doesn't mention the topic at all. Jarble (talk) 00:44, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete The word penis appears nowhere in the article goat (and the word goat appears nowhere in the article penis). Without any content about this subject there's no point in a redirect. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pppery. A7V2 (talk) 07:23, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as not useful -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:47, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Ultra goat penetration
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Ultra goat penetration → Goat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Sigh. Another one. Some people are messed up. Should be an uncontroversial DELETE of an immature prank. TNstingray (talk) 22:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as joke redirect at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:47, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Goat sodomy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Goat sodomy → Goat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Surprisingly, there's a lot of these. Surprised these haven't been caught by now. This one is an obvious deletion. TNstingray (talk) 22:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't even point to the right place; reproductive sex isn't sodomy anyway. "Goat sodomy" would properly refer to sex between a human and a goat, but that topic isn't discussed either in the target or anywhere else I can find. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is a picture of this at Zoophilia but no real discussion, and I highly doubt any would be justified. A7V2 (talk) 07:25, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Goat sex
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 9%23Goat sex

Goatsex
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 9%23Goatsex

Dorand
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of aircraft (Df-Dz). signed,Rosguill talk 20:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Dorand → Émile Dorand (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

At least two other potential targets (the Dorand AR and the Dorand State Forest). This one should probably just be disambiguated. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 20:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Agreed Lestocq (talk) 21:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree, I think this page would function better as a disambig, per nom. Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk / contribs) 00:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:19, 26 January 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: One more go… Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:47, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, the suggested targets are WP:PARTIALDABs and not known as just Dorand. The aircraft series, along with the Dorand DO.1 were named after Émile Dorand anyway, and listed at the current target. The state forest may be hatnoted from the current target. Jay  💬 12:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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 * Another thought to consider: Emile's son, René Dorand, has five mentions in Wikipedia, and is a contender for his own article, which is why I redlinked him in the Emile Dorand article. Lestocq (talk) 18:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * If this is still about the disambiguation page, see WP:REDDAB. As the mentions are in multiple articles, it would be best to wait for Rene to have his standalone article, (or a redirect, which doesn't look a possibility). Jay  💬 20:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget to Peter James' suggested target and hatnote the state forest from there. There are two "Dorand" sections at List of aircraft (Df-Dz), probably they can be made sub-sections and brought under a single Dorand section. Jay  💬 06:35, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * There is List of aircraft (Df-Dz), where Émile and René are mentioned. Peter James (talk) 22:36, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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Legal clause
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 03:59, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Legal clause → Rider (legislation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems like an inappropriate target for such a broad topic. Clause (disambiguation) suggests the best target would be Provision (contracting), but that stub is specific to contracts and still does not encompass the wide ranging use of the phrase. Perhaps a better target can be identified (the term appears ~100 times in enwiki), but regardless, the status quo certainly doesn't seem ideal. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete to make way for a WP:BCA to which Provision (contracting) can be merged. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 23:51, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Rider(politics)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 03:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Rider(politics)">Rider(politics) → Rider (legislation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB as due to malformed disambiguator Mdewman6 (talk) 20:40, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The correctly spaced version, Rider (politics), exists and targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 06:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk &#124; edits) 07:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 10:48, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete it only would have been at this title for 9 and a bit months at most back in 2004.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:20, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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Roads in Madagascar
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Driving in Madagascar.  Jay  💬 09:11, 7 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Roads in Madagascar → Transport in Madagascar (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This currently targets a section in Transport in Madagascar that no longer exists (though it could be pointed to the section on "roadways" fairly easily). I'm bringing this here because there exists a List of roads in Madagascar, and I think that this topic would better direct to the dedicated list article about roads in Madagascar rather than the general article on transportation in the island nation. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)"> Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:32, 18 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 18:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this RfD really neccesary? Why not boldly retarget, the actual redirect doesn't have that many links. Anyways, I'm in support of this change. — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 00:24, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Driving in Madagascar wasn't in mainspace yet when I made that comment, but I also support the solution mentioned below. — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 17:50, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support, the list of roads seems like a better target. Sahaib (talk) 21:39, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Driving in Madagascar as this covers what I would expect to see in an article called "Roads in Madagascar". Change the hatnote there to a "see also", linking to List of roads in Madagascar. A7V2 (talk) 23:38, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I would also be ok with that. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)"> Red-tailed hawk (nest) 07:09, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Driving in Madagascar per A7V2. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk &#124; edits) 19:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per A7V2. Driving in Madagascar is a better target between the two mentioned options.  --Super Goku V (talk) 20:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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JW (singer)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . No objection to incomplete disambiguation if an article the singer with an article on zhwiki is made. (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 02:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="JW (singer)">JW (singer) → Justin Wellington (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is another singer in Hong Kong called JW. Billytanghh (talk) 16:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Do we have an article on this other JW? If not, then keep; if so, then retarget to JW and add both names to the disambiguation page. BD2412  T 17:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Not in enwiki, but in zhwiki.--Billytanghh (talk) 22:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If notable here then we should probably retarget.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:21, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep we don't generally disambiguate against topics that don't have articles. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep if the current target is the primary topic. Else retarget to the dab per Crouch and add the entries there per BD2412. Jay  💬 16:50, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. No need to disambiguate, since the other JW has no article in the English Wikipedia. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:24, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Internal contamination
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 9%23Internal contamination

Jupa cabra
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 10%23Jupa cabra

How to
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 11%23How to

Prickilie Bush
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . (non-admin closure) <u style="color:#00F">Laun <u style="color:#00F">chba <u style="color:#00F">ller  19:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Prickilie Bush → The Maid Freed from the Gallows (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target article. <u style="color:#00F">Laun <u style="color:#00F">chba <u style="color:#00F">ller 07:09, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Very cursory check: The Prickly Bush is mentioned, could this be an alternative spelling of that?  J947  † edits 09:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have added references to the article showing use of "Prickilie Bush" as a longstanding alternative title to the song. BD2412  T 17:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per BD2412. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair cop - withdrawn.-- <u style="color:#00F">Laun <u style="color:#00F">chba <u style="color:#00F">ller 17:15, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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