Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 24

July 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 24, 2023.

Great Britain Olympic football team
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Great Britain football team. Participants agree that there's no need for creating a new DAB page if one already exists. Tagged the redirect accordingly as a R from incomplete disambiguation. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 16:16, 31 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Great Britain Olympic football team → Great Britain men's Olympic football team (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Should be a dismabiguation page as per WP:TWODABS. Great Britain men's Olympic football team has only competed a few times and not since 2012 (and no plans to compete again), whereas the women have competed at every Olympics since 2012. Thus, it's equally likely people will be looking for the men's team (for historic articles) or for the women's team (for recent articles). There are 64 mainspace links to this redirect which would need to be fixed. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:29, 13 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Skarmory. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:07, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. --BDD (talk) 21:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per nom. GiantSnowman 19:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I originally closed this as disambiguate given the clear consensus that was building, but within a few minutes while building the DAB page I found a potential target that the proposed DAB would pretty much duplicate – Great Britain football team. In my opinion, this should redirect to Great Britain football team. (As an aside, if there's a better way to handle this situation, let me know; I should probably be drafting the DAB pages before closing to prevent this specific incident from happening again, but it looked to me like I was left with the options of creating a DAB page that would probably get merged, reverting my close and !voting risking SUPERVOTE concerns, or boldly redirecting after closing a discussion about five minutes prior with a different consensus. I chose the middle option.) Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  20:02, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Great Britain football team per Skarmory. A7V2 (talk) 08:21, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Great Britain football team. Good thought, Skarmory. --BDD (talk) 15:17, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment (from nominator). I'm also fine with a retarget to Great Britain football team as a R from incomplete disambiguation. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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HMS Cruizer (1705)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="HMS Cruizer (1705)">HMS Cruizer (1705) → Royal Navy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per reason 10 ("The redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject"). This redirect was created as a placeholder on the request of who appears to be inactive. No other potential Royal Navy ships are redirected rather than being redlinked. Tevildo (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: this page was created by request as a starting point for an article, because all HMS Cruizer titles are on the global title blacklist. See the redlinks at HMS Cruizer for other examples. - Eureka Lott 02:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, WP:REDYES and since this is not discussed at the target, but it seems a very strange thing to have a blacklist entry for. I was unable to find anything in the archives of [], I wonder if anyone knows the background? Could this blacklist entry now be lifted or modified? A7V2 (talk) 08:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain, but it may be related to Long-term abuse/Cruizir. - Eureka Lott 13:23, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I would agree, based on the title blacklist entry. meta:talk:title blacklist is the place to request updates to the list, but, considering the abusive user was active as recently as 2020, it's probably a bit too soon to start removing the protection. Tevildo (talk) 17:56, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That's unfortunate. It's not something I really care enough about to want to invest the time to have it lifted, especially if as you say this is related to a recent issue. If someone wanted to turn this into an article, I could support a retarget to HMS Cruizer as a temporary measure but given this could be created by request I think a redlink is still preferable. A7V2 (talk) 00:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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7 21 23 and 21 7 23
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:42, 31 July 2023 (UTC)


 * 21 7 23 → Oppenheimer (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 7 21 23 → Oppenheimer (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Barbie also came out on this date, making this a bit ambiguous if it were to only refer to movies. I'm unsure if this should keep its current redirect as Oppenheimer's ad does seem to use 7.21.23 much more than Barbie's did, but also this doesn't necessarily unambiguous refer to movies either. I'm split between keep, retarget to Barbenheimer, retarget to 2023 (although July 21 is not mentioned specifically) or delete. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 17:00, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a common date format. Otherwise, individual dates should usually target the current events portal: Portal:Current events/July 2023. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * you may be interested in this discussion.  J947  † edits 01:22, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: implausible search term. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 19:35, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as confusing at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as utterly stupid. <b style="color:red;">E</b><b style="color:blue;">Eng</b> 07:35, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
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Combat jujitsu
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 2%23Combat jujitsu

Fanta Pineapple and Grapefruit
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 2%23Fanta Pineapple and Grapefruit

Radeon R800
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Keeping as a plausible misnomer, and promoting the CPU to primary topic. wbm1058 (talk) 22:55, 31 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Radeon R800 → Radeon HD 5000 series (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparent failed crystal balling (per creating edit summary) - not mentioned at target. If this is deleted then the entry at R800 can be removed and R800 (CPU) promoted to the undisambiguated title * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:40, 6 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J947  † edits 10:21, 17 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 14:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This was merged to the target by an IP who provided some info at User talk:Koremore. I have just tagged it as R from merge. I guess readers who are familiar with the GPU series from R100 to R700, will wonder what happened to R800. I see sources that say R800's codename was Evergreen, which is the current target now, and hinted at the Radeon HD 5000 series. However, I agree that R800 (CPU) can be promoted to R800. Jay  💬 09:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep per my comment above and go ahead with the promote despite the keep. Jay  💬 17:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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Heterophylly
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 05:27, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Heterophylly → Shoot (botany) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Heterophyllous → Heteroblasty (botany) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Anisophylly → Shoot (botany) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

After closing the move at Shoot, I went to update the redirects, and stumbled across a couple that didn't make sense to me. I don't think Shoot (botany) is the best target for any of these; not sure about Heteroblasty (botany) either, and they may fall under WP:R as broad topics that need their own articles (especially Anisophylly, which is not mentioned at either target). At the very least, Heterophylly and Heterophyllous should be synced. Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  04:23, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's rather a mess. I think the first thing to do would be to create coverage for Anisophylly, which is entirely different from Heterophylly. I can't find any history that it was ever covered, am I missing something? Anisophylly, "not quite the same leaves", is when there are leaves of two different sizes on the same shoot, little leaves alternating with the big ones, as shown here [] and we have it in at least one Commons photo here. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 06:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Anisophylly now has a minimal coverage on its own page. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 08:05, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Struck Anisophylly from the nom as such. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  20:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete the heteros as WP:REDYES. signed,Rosguill talk 00:02, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Code of conduct
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of policies.  Jay  💬 05:22, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Code of conduct → Wikipedia:Etiquette (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * COC → Wikipedia:Universal Code of Conduct (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * CoC → Wikipedia:Etiquette (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Coc → Wikipedia:Etiquette (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I believe that all these should redirect to the same page. I think it's better for all of them to redirect to Universal Code of Conduct. Just as a note, I made the last 2 ( and ) Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 09:23, 10 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J947  † edits 11:02, 17 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 14:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The universal code of conduct applies as a minimum standard for all of the Wikimedia projects, while the English Wikipedia has its own policies on top of it. In addition, Etiquette only offers one part of the English Wikipedia's code of conduct., consistent with WP:CONDUCT, may be a better choice. Randi🦋Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 14:50, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to List_of_policies. signed,Rosguill talk 00:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Notable
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close with support  . No further discussion to be had.  /, or any user may perform the retarget after the transclusions are done.  Jay  💬 05:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Template:Notable → Template:Notability (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Notable", as the name of a template, implies that it should be added to articles on topics editors have concluded are notable in the way Sources exist is used rather than for a topic of questionable notability. I think this should, therefore, be retargeted to Template:Sources exist after the 128 existing mainspace transclusions are converted to Notability. ~ UN6892  tc 14:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Support: are those 128 transclusions a job for AWB? Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 14:19, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably ~ UN6892  tc 02:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
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England's King Charles I
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Consensus has cleared post-relist, and it has settled on this specific case being a valid form of natural disambiguation. (non-admin closure)  Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  23:58, 30 July 2023 (UTC)


 * England's King Charles I → Charles I of England (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

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 * Delete - This format is generally not used in redirects for similar pages, and there are 0 pageviews for this. estar8806 (talk) ★ 02:28, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - I just simply cannot see this redirect being useful in any way or form. Keivan.f  Talk 12:01, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: harmless, redirects are cheap. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 15:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is one way to naturally disambiguate from other people named King Charles I. Some examples of use: "beheading of England's King Charles I in 1649", "enhanced 1639 charter from England's King Charles I", "named to honor England's King Charles I", "England's King Charles I granted his Catholic friend", etc. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:16, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Edward-Woodrow and Tavix. 〜 Askarion   ✉  17:28, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless natural disambiguation. A7V2 (talk) 08:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix: help outweighs harm.  J947  † edits 01:12, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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'feld
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:00, 3 August 2023 (UTC)


 * 'feld → Seinfeld (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - This is an oddly longstanding undiscussed redirect. I can't find any references of this sort of abbreviation for the show, and it has 0 hits from what I can find anyway. estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:53, 16 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:33, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 'Delete -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 04:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Super weak retarget to Feld which is a surname list (as well as mentioning a vaguely related company offhand); this is hardly an exact match but it's the closest one we have on Wikipedia. Otherwise I guess there's nowhere else for this redirect to go so I'm guessing deletion? Duckmather (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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Delete - It's been used 372 times since 2015, but did they find the 'feld they were looking for? Absent any evidence of use, it's not an appropriate redirect. signed,Rosguill talk 23:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep or delete; the fact of its creation demonstrates that this is potentially a term that is used even though it is basically impossible to search for this phrase. A retarget is unhelpful.  J947  † edits 01:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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Wearables, Home and Accessories
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Apple Inc.. signed,Rosguill talk 23:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wearables, Home and Accessories">Wearables, Home and Accessories → Apple Inc. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - Implausible and ambiguous search term. estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:54, 16 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:32, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's the official name used by Apple for this product category. Such a highly specific search term is very unlikely to be ambigous, and even if users would search for this exact term and be disappointed because they searched for something else, they would come to realize that Apple's product category is the only notable use of this highly specific term.--Maxeto0910 (talk) Special:Contributions/Maxeto0910 23:04, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Refine to Apple Inc. where the phrase is mentioned. Steel1943  (talk) 20:38, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Apple Inc. per Steel1943. Current target section no-longer exists or was renamed. A7V2 (talk) 08:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
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