Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 23

June 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 23, 2023.

Proton (company)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Proton (disambiguation). (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Proton (company) → Proton Holdings (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Proton (disambiguation). Multiple companies named Proton; incomplete disambiguation. 162 etc. (talk) 15:40, 16 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 23:42, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: Despite what I thought, it does seem like Proton Holdings is the WP:PTOPIC at Proton (disambiguation). I'm surprised, but per page views it seems that of the businesses listed there Proton Holdings has 90% of the total page view traffic. TartarTorte 15:50, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that the guideline in this case is WP:PDAB, not WP:PTOPIC. 162 etc. (talk) 16:24, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per TartarTorte. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:57, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 09:47, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom and WP:INCOMPLETEDAB. It seems like there is no value in having an incompletely disambiguated redirect that is the same number of words as (and more syllables than) the target topic name. 90% is not 99%, and there are several other companies by this name, and popularity is transient. It's better to just send it to the disambiguation page. PDAB redirects seem very rare – see WP:PDABREDIRECTS, where only two others are identified –  and those are more well-justified cases than this one. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget per BarrelProof. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per WP:PDAB and BarrelProof's rationale above. I think a reader looking for the Proton car maker would be more likely to search "Proton (car)" or something to that effect anyway; I think in this case since the bar for a primary topic is much higher, it's better to redirect to the dab page. --Sable232 (talk) 15:35, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * retarget per nom and BarrelProof -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 05:55, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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Suri Cruise
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 1%23Suri Cruise

Template:Fake
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 1%23Template:Fake

Sickie
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Bureaupathic
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:36, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Bureaupathic → Toxic leader (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Possible WP:NEO not mentioned in the target, and not mentioned anywhere else on Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 20:17, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
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Employee abuse
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  23:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Employee abuse → Workplace bullying (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target is unclear in why the redirect's phrase has exclusivity to the target; there could be readers searching a term like that that may be attempting to locate articles like or related to Abuse. Steel1943 (talk) 20:06, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
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Injury to feelings
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 30%23Injury to feelings

Buzzword issues
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Buzzword issues → Workplace bullying (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between this redirect and the target unclear. In addition, Buzzword issue does not exist, and it seems the article Buzzword does not contain information about the nominated redirect's subject either. Steel1943 (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
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Angry mob
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 30%23Angry mob

Mohamed Sherif (footballer, born 1994)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 2%23Mohamed Sherif (footballer, born 1994)

Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014. I've tried a rough job of expanding the section. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 00:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill">Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill → Anti-social behaviour order (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Section does not exist. Not familiar with this subject: Is this supposed to refer to Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014? Steel1943 (talk) 17:26, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Copy content about the bill from Anti-social behaviour order into Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014, and retarget to the latter. Jay  💬 10:59, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
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Assholism
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Assholism → Anti-social behaviour (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. Without context, this redirect could seem like an attack of sorts. Steel1943 (talk) 17:22, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 19:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. 〜 Askarion   ✉  02:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NEO. WP:NOTMADEUP. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:25, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Is on Wiktionary, but Wikipedia is not a dictionary/slang usage guide, and also per WP:NEO. 2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#55a7db">speak  &#124; edits) 19:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --  Devoke  water  19:47, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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William Herbert Hobbs Distinguished Professor of Geography
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * William Herbert Hobbs Distinguished Professor of Geography → William Herbert Hobbs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a useful search term. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
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A good place to be
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * A good place to be → Kimberley, British Columbia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unclear why this term is meant to redirect to the city (not mentioned at target), but even if it is the city's motto it's, it's not a useful search term. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 19:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 21:28, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. It apparently is the city's motto, but still not a useful search term and far too vague. 〜 Askarion   ✉  13:55, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above: too vague to be useful. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 09:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, seems like a violation of WP:NPOV Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 14:26, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Devoke  water  19:46, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as not useful search terms. Vitaium (talk) 02:09, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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J-Bird
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  as drafted. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 00:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * J-Bird → Japan Airlines (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The section got deleted, so please redirect to Jay Bird since it is the best possible article for redirecting. 176.33.240.192 (talk) 13:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment the redirect originally pointed to Q*bert, where it is mentioned, as a videogame. -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Dabify convert to disambiguation page. The airline is listed at List of defunct airlines of Japan, the videogame is listed at List of self-booting IBM PC compatible games (or use Q*bert as the destination), "J-Bird" is a fictional character from Duke (film) and Cougar Town and Bones (2001 film) -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 18:19, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per IP 64. above. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The drafted dab looks good. Jay  💬 11:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
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Tia Lorentzen
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 4%23Tia Lorentzen

Linkem Group
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 2%23Linkem Group

Template:Fake image
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . While there's a majority in favor of redirecting, the issue of existing use was never addressed by editors proposing redirect, and requires consideration. signed,Rosguill talk 04:49, 8 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Template:Fake image → Template:Image frame (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible and nonsense redirect. Should be retarget to Template:Pseudo image. Vitaium (talk) 15:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Where to retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 05:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Template:Image hoax as unlike WP:FAKEARTICLE it doesn't seem ambiguous.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:59, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Keep or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 07:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Strong keep. In use. This was redirected as a result of this TfD, in which it was pointed out that the template previously at the redirect was redundant in functionality to Template:Image frame. As a template redirect, it should not be retargeted to something totally different, as it will break old uses and confuse users (if there were any) totally break all of the pages that currently transclude it. A trout to the nom for failing to check. Deletion could be an option as it's unused, but I'm not sure if this is the proper venue? --Paul_012 (talk) 13:28, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Paul_012; Also Template:Pseudo image is a near-duplicate of Template:Image frame and should probably be merged or redirected. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 17:11, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. The name may be a bit surprising, but actual use trumps more theoretical considerations. -- Visviva (talk) 04:45, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 * retarget per above. Frietjes (talk) 23:43, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Two targets are being proposed above. Please clarify which do you prefer. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Template:Image hoax. Frietjes (talk) 15:37, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Template:Pseudo image is at TFD so might it be better to put this on hold?  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:56, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * TfD closed as delete / redirect.  J947  † edits 01:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * How do you see your nomination now that your proposed target has itself been redirected to the current target? Jay  💬 05:57, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Image hoax, which seems like a more logical target. Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  15:15, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
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Flag Land Base Day
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:45, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Flag Land Base Day → Scientology beliefs and practices (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Orphan redirect from 2015. Redirect is not in use and there is no wiki content about this alleged day. This is NOT a Scientology holiday. Grorp (talk) 06:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree with Grorp. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 11:34, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I originally created this redirect in 2015 as a replacement for a piped link; at that time the target article had an entry for 'Flag Land Base Day' in the Holidays section. However as that entry has since been removed, and there appears to be no such holiday, I'm happy to see this unused redirect deleted. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
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El Muerto (2024 film)
<span id="El Muerto (2024 film)"> <span id="Draft:El Muerto (2024 film)"> <span id="Draft:El Muerto (film)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 1%23El Muerto (2024 film)

Saphire Halliwell
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 04:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Saphire Halliwell → List of Charmed characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete not mentioned in target, cursory web search results in a fanfic character. Thus this is a WP:HOAX -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 02:41, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 14:30, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --  Devoke  water  19:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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