Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 28

June 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 28, 2023.

Mars (Doctor Who)
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was restored article  and sent to AfD. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 00:17, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Mars (Doctor Who) → Mars in fiction (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of the merged content is still in use, and the section is gone. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:56, 21 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:44, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I was about to say "keep for the attribution", but the "merge" was this edit that didn't actually use any of the content in this article. Un-redirect and send to AfD? Or turn into a list of Doctor Who episodes mentioning Mars? —Kusma (talk) 20:45, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Revert and send to AFD - It's not fair to try to get around the AfD process by sneaking into RfD instead. Doesn't make sense to do it this way. So do it right. Fieari (talk) 00:42, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Restore article, can be sent to AfD if desired. This existed for 14 years and has a lot of sources so requires discussion in appropriate venue to delete. A7V2 (talk) 01:56, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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Old Earth (Dune)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 6%23Old Earth (Dune)

White Mass, Rose Mass, Gold Mass
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 6%23White Mass, Rose Mass, Gold Mass

Mass, Nuptial
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 6%23Mass, Nuptial

Lupus erythematosus(LE)-like syndrome due to drug
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Drug-induced lupus erythematosus. Nominally no consensus between deletion and retarget, defaulting to retarget in the absence of explicit support for the status quo. signed,Rosguill talk 05:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Lupus erythematosus(LE)-like syndrome due to drug → Lupus erythematosus (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems unlikely as a redirect, and possibly erroneous, due to how unwieldy and WP:PRECISE it is. Steel1943 (talk) 21:26, 2 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 02:28, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. Definitely unwieldy and unlikely, but Drug-induced lupus erythematosus is a thing and I found at least one instance where it's also characterized as a Lupus-like disease. &#8213; Synpath 16:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 04:58, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The source of this redirect appears to be WP:WikiProject Medicine/Dermatology task force/ILDS-ICD which has several other "due to" kind of redirects including more unwieldy ones such as Dermatosis due to (NEC)/(NOS) microangiopathy of cutaneous vasculature. I don't think we can single out any for deletion, unless we have agreement of some kind of naming guideline at the medicine or dermatology task force. Jay  💬 06:12, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: One more try… Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!</b> 21:19, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete because "Lupus erythematosus(LE)" is an unlikely search term. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:57, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep and retarget to Drug-induced lupus erythematosus. Seems to be part of a broader scheme used by the Dermatology task force to map ICD categories to articles (but this doesn't seem to be part of ICD-10). I would be a bit uncomfortable piecemeal-deleting these without a better understanding of what the overall concept is/was. -- Visviva (talk) 03:46, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Drug-induced lupus erythematosus as likely having more content pertinent to anyone using this redirect. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:54, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per Headbomb. The lack of space between ...erythematosus and (LE) only makes matters worse. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 21:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I suspect this term as written appears in somewhere in the literature and was created for that purpose. Granted this was 13 years ago, but per Jay above, I think we should be careful about discounting redirects that seem on the surface like implausible search terms. This redirect likely serves some purpose, albeit limited. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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Plane crash in buffelo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:56, 5 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Plane crash in buffelo → Colgan Air Flight 3407 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Just as vague as the below but also spelled wrong. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Spelling mistake and a capitalization mistake - two errors usually mean delete on sight for me. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:42, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:45, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Mdewman6. 〜 Askarion   ✉  01:20, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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Plane crash in buffalo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Plane crash in buffalo → Colgan Air Flight 3407 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Very vague. Per Buffalo Niagara International Airport, there have been lots of other plane crashes in Buffalo, New York alone, and there are many other places called Buffalo * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This is ambiguous as the nom states, and we don't have the correctly capitalized Plane crash in Buffalo, but given the effect it had on commercial aviation in the U.S. and the fatalities, I would argue the current target would be the primary topic, and is a plausible search term. Also possible to simply retarget to Buffalo Niagara International Airport, if that captures all crashes in Buffalo, but that would still assume a user means Buffalo, New York. Note that we also have Plane Crash in Queens (incorrectly capitalized in a different way), which in spite of there having been numerous plane crashes in Queens, the target of that redirect is probably what most users seek. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:42, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I did see that redirect, but assumed it was referring to the documentary episode discussed at American Airlines Flight 587, although in that case it should probably go to List of Seconds from Disaster episodes instead. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. Yeah that should be retargeted since it's referring to the episode and not the crash itself. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:08, 29 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:46, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 13:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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List of earthquakes of Europe 2011-2015
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)


 * List of earthquakes of Europe 2011-2015 → Lists of 21st-century earthquakes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely title. Created by accident, from a page move of an article which was later deleted. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 19:42, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Would have been deleted along with the article that was deleted at Afd, but I suspect somewhere along the line that article was blanked and redirected and this redirect was left behind when the article was restored then deleted at Afd. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:49, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above; it is also an unlikely search term. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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911 War
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 6%23911 War

Yunfei (Samurai Shodown)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Yunfei (Samurai Shodown)">Yunfei (Samurai Shodown) → Samurai Shodown (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:35, 21 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  07:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment, tilting toward delete: This character used to have his own article until merged it with the list of characters, until that was merged Samurai Shodown (series) (itself later merged with the target article), then redirected back to a recreated character list and eventually back to the target via a series of fixed double redirects over the next couple years. There's a ton of other redirects from characters to this page-I've only checked a few of them and they seem to have also been articles. I need to go to bed before I do any further investigation. Regards,  SONIC 678 04:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I suspect the redirect target could probably be improved, but there's surely a list of characters somewhere (possibly in a relevant game article).  It's harmless.  SnowFire (talk) 04:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 20:15, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Pointing readers looking for something somewhere where it isn't is in no way harmless. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pppery. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 21:17, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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Silverlode
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural keep  . Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:27, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

* Silverlode → Rohan, Middle-earth (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This doesn't make sense, as the term is only mentioned once peripherally – without any real further information being provided on the redirect lemma as such, though. Hildeoc (talk) 00:41, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

In view of Chiswick Chap's improvement, I hereby withdraw this nomination.--Hildeoc (talk) 21:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Retarget: yes, good catch, this is actually in Lothlórien, with more at Lothlórien. Of course it's also on the edge of Rohan. The usual criterion, by the way, is simply that the term is mentioned; better is that it is situated, which this and all Middle-earth places are, but that is beyond the AfD requirement. Chiswick Chap (talk) 01:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into this. Your proposal seems quite reasonable to me; I can thus endorse it. Best, Hildeoc (talk) 20:58, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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