Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 17

March 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 17, 2023.

Evil-speaking
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 08:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Evil-speaking → Defamation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Probably a case of WP:REDYES; most of what I can find on this term is from Christian websites discussing it in the context of a biblical quotation. An anonymous username, not my real name 22:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 03:48, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Baal-zebub In Rabbinical Literature
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 3%23Baal-zebub In Rabbinical Literature

More "upcoming" no longer upcoming
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * 101 Dalmatians (upcoming musical) → 101 Dalmatians (2022 musical) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Aaha (upcoming film) → Aaha (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Abandoned (upcoming film) → Prey (2019 American film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ambulance (upcoming film) → Ambulance (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Becky (upcoming film) → Becky (2020 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bingo (upcoming film) → Bingo Hell (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Birds of Paradise (upcoming film) → Birds of Paradise (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Brother's Keeper (upcoming film) → Under the Stadium Lights (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * FIR (upcoming film) → F.I.R No. 339/07/06 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Final Cut (upcoming film) → Final Cut (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Fire (upcoming film) → Both Sides of the Blade (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Flashback (upcoming film) → Flashback (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Gandhada Gudi (upcoming film)">Gandhada Gudi (upcoming film) → Gandhada Gudi (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Gasoline Alley (upcoming film)">Gasoline Alley (upcoming film) → Gasoline Alley (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ghosts of War (upcoming film)">Ghosts of War (upcoming film) → Ghosts of War (2020 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Hero (upcoming film)">Hero (upcoming film) → Hero (2022 South Korean film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Hide and Seek (upcoming film)">Hide and Seek (upcoming film) → Hide and Seek (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Highway (upcoming film)">Highway (upcoming film) → She's Missing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Immortal (upcoming film)">Immortal (upcoming film) → Sisu (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Inspector Vikram (upcoming film)">Inspector Vikram (upcoming film) → Inspector Vikram (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Joyride (upcoming film)">Joyride (upcoming film) → Joyride (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Kalavida (upcoming film)">Kalavida (upcoming film) → Kalavida (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Killers of the Flower Moon (upcoming film)">Killers of the Flower Moon (upcoming film) → Killers of the Flower Moon (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Kranti (upcoming film)">Kranti (upcoming film) → Kranti (2023 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Last Call (upcoming film)">Last Call (upcoming film) → Last Call (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Little Fish (upcoming film)">Little Fish (upcoming film) → Little Fish (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Long Weekend (upcoming film)">Long Weekend (upcoming film) → Long Weekend (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Made in Italy (upcoming film)">Made in Italy (upcoming film) → Made in Italy (2020 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Man of God (upcoming film)">Man of God (upcoming film) → Man of God (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Manticore (upcoming film)">Manticore (upcoming film) → Manticore (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mayday (upcoming American film)">Mayday (upcoming American film) → Mayday (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Mila (upcoming film)">Mila (upcoming film) → Mila (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Monica (upcoming film)">Monica (upcoming film) → Monica (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="No Man's Land (upcoming film)">No Man's Land (upcoming film) → No Man's Land (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Off the Rails (upcoming film)">Off the Rails (upcoming film) → Off the Rails (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Playing God (upcoming film)">Playing God (upcoming film) → Playing God (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Posti (upcoming film)">Posti (upcoming film) → Posti (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Promises (upcoming film)">Promises (upcoming film) → Promises (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Psycho (upcoming film)">Psycho (upcoming film) → Mukhosh (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Puppy (upcoming film)">Puppy (upcoming film) → My Heart Puppy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Shotgun Wedding (upcoming film)">Shotgun Wedding (upcoming film) → Shotgun Wedding (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Silk Road (upcoming film)">Silk Road (upcoming film) → Silk Road (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Swing (upcoming film)">Swing (upcoming film) → Heart of Champions (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Cellar (upcoming film)">The Cellar (upcoming film) → The Cellar (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Champion (upcoming film)">The Champion (upcoming film) → The Champion (2020 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Honeymoon (upcoming film)">The Honeymoon (upcoming film) → The Honeymoon (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Independent (upcoming film)">The Independent (upcoming film) → The Independent (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Last Mercenary (upcoming film)">The Last Mercenary (upcoming film) → The Last Mercenary (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Owners (upcoming film)">The Owners (upcoming film) → The Owners (2020 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Score (upcoming film)">The Score (upcoming film) → The Score (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The Swordsman (upcoming film)">The Swordsman (upcoming film) → The Swordsman (2020 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="The battle of Bhima Koregaon (upcoming film)">The battle of Bhima Koregaon (upcoming film) → The Battle of Bhima Koregaon (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="This Is the Night (upcoming film)">This Is the Night (upcoming film) → This Is the Night (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Till Death (upcoming horror film)">Till Death (upcoming horror film) → Till Death (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Veyil (upcoming film)">Veyil (upcoming film) → Veyil (2022 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="When You Finish Saving the World (upcoming film)">When You Finish Saving the World (upcoming film) → When You Finish Saving the World (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another batch of "upcoming" no longer upcoming. Steel1943 (talk) 21:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:14, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all per previous RfD discussions. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 17:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all: Per previous RfD discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:52, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: as standard in RFD. I wonder if these would be eligible for snow deletion. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 20:25, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all: Good housekeeping. These should have been put for WP:G6 post move after ensuring there is no link to the redirect. Rickyurs (talk) 03:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I already ensured none of the nominated redirects have any incoming links in the article space (all have been bypassed) prior to making this nomination. Steel1943  (talk) 05:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep those like Monica that get loads of views presumably from old links that are undesirable to break. Delete the rest.  J947  † edits 06:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Those like Monica are The Score (upcoming film), When You Finish Saving the World (upcoming film), Swing (upcoming film), The Honeymoon (upcoming film), Promises (upcoming film), and to a smaller extent The Cellar (upcoming film), Mila (upcoming film), Birds of Paradise (upcoming film), and Flashback (upcoming film). Immortal (upcoming film) is a special case. Jay  💬 07:20, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep those that are still getting used. I haven't got time right now to go throught all of them, so I'll defer to J947's analysis unless/until I do. Thryduulf (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: As per precedence of previous discussions, which have resulted in "delete", page views are irrelevant here since the issue is the disambiguator, which has been time and time again been determined to consider these redirects problematic once they are no longer "upcoming". The page views tend to virtually disappear once the incoming links from the article space are bypassed (and I bypassed all of them prior to making this nomination.) Steel1943  (talk) 21:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The ones I listed did not have a reduction in page views even after the incoming links were removed. Jay  💬 05:40, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * To your point Jay, for this list of redirects, I bypassed the incoming links from the article space a few days before I made this nomination: I was actually planning on making this nomination after my most recent one closed, but decided to go ahead and go for it anyways. For example, looks like for The Score (upcoming film), the page views took a sharp drop after 3 March 2023 from 20-ish views per day to 0–2 views per day. Spot checking some more of the redirects, seems like the same applies to them as well; at this point, it looks like the views of the redirects are 1-2 a day, most likely either as a result of this nomination or namespaces where it is okay for redlinks to exist. Steel1943  (talk) 14:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * With regard to your second point, it does not hurt to wait a month and check views then IMO.  J947  † edits 06:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Just because previous discussions have resulted in an outcome that is harmful to readers is not a reason to require anybody to support, let alone encourage, the same mistake to be made again. Thryduulf (talk) 09:44, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call the number of previous discussions that had the same result a "mistake"; I would call that "precedence". (And yeah, WP:CCC and all, but consensus has continually been the same for the same scenario: Titles where the target has been released.) Steel1943  (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You can call it what you want to call it, but I am going to continue calling outcomes that are harmful to readers "mistakes" regardless of how many times they are made. Thryduulf (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Lot of "mistakes" on RFD then:
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 30
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 1
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 19
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 17
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 14
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 10
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 9
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 18
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 3
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 19
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 22
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 15
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 28
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 9
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 5
 * ...All of which were multi-redirect nominations, all of which resulted in delete. In addition, per Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 84, there was supposed to be a WP:CSD criterion created to address these redirects, but even though there was consensus for a criterion, it was never created for some reason. I have to assume this is why WP:UFILM was created ... since "delete" is such a common result. (Disclaimer: I'm obviously stating all of this for this discussion's closer since I cannot expect every closer to know about the history of these discussions.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Without having looked at those old links, if any redirects were deleted that were still being used by readers to find the target article, then yes they were mistakes (my memory of discussions I've been involved with is usually some redirects were fine to be deleted but others were still in use). As for the CSD, there wasn't actually a consensus for any criterion because nobody proposed a wording the met all the requirements of WP:NEWCSD. Many people agreed that some redirects could be speedily deleted but there was no agreement on any objective way to distinguish those redirects from the ones that should not be deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 23:23, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ...Well, if this group of redirects is kept, then it will be inconsistent to the about 200–300+ that have now been deleted as a result of these discussions. I think that's all I got since I'm tired of beating a dead horse. Steel1943  (talk) 23:58, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it will be inconsistent, but that's not a problem because (a) each of these redirects should be evaluated on their own merits anyway - some should be deleted, some should be kept; and (b) we will not be harming the encyclopaedia this time. Thryduulf (talk) 10:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Didn't know this existed until today: WP:UFILM is relevant here. I assume it was created as a result of all the previous discussions that resulted in delete. Steel1943  (talk) 14:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. These are no longer in use and are now also misleading. Better to default to our search engine if someone actually writes one of these. Gonnym (talk) 14:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Turkish invasion
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 30%23Turkish invasion

Template:Station-stub
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . While both deletion and (weak) keep were proposed, disambiguation is the only solution to sway multiple editors. signed,Rosguill talk 01:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Template:Station-stub → Template:Railstation-stub (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is an ambiguous template term. I think this template redirect should be disambiguated. From Bassie f (his talk page) 07:12, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguated how? It points to Template:Railstation-stub which is less ambiguous. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * See Template:Radio-station-stub @Redrose64 From Bassie f (his talk page) 20:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also see Template:Tv-station-stub @Redrose64 From Bassie f (his talk page) 20:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I know that those exist, as do several others with "station-stub" in the name. What I mean is, exactly what is to be done in order to "disambiguate" this redirect? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate There are only two transclusions, but most of the links refer to TV or radio stations. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate using the draft I provided. From Bassie f (his talk page) 03:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Presumably you mean . I don't know of other pages in template space where that method is used; please could you point to some examples? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 10:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * An example is Template:Infobox broadcast @Redrose64 From Bassie f (his talk page) 19:57, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That is not a redirect, nor is it a stub template. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I have done further research and it turns out no stub templates are disambiguation pages. @Redrose64 From Bassie f (his talk page) 21:56, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Previously discussed on Stub types for deletion in June 2005, see Stub types for deletion/Log/Deleted/June 2005. Bassie f (his talk page) 03:40, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Since it was previously deleted at an XfD, and recreated without any WP:DRV that I can find, it may qualify for speedy deletion as WP:CSD. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 10:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Since 2005 is now so long ago I'd caution against G4.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Put a CSD G4 template on this redirect just now. From Bassie f (his talk page) 20:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The previous target was Template:Broadcasting-stub while the current target is Template:Railstation-stub and I though generally with G4 and RFD the target has to be the same or at least similar, a completely different target generally precludes G4.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Crouch, Swale, because of your reasons, I will remove the CSD tag soon. From Bassie f (his talk page) 22:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Removed the CSD tag just now. From Bassie f (his talk page) 22:11, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'd also add a 3rd reason in addition to different target and time passed in that you drafted a DAB after that was suggested. Going back to the redirect I'd point out that there are lots of different types of stations including broadcasting stations, police stations, bait stations etc but the only one that is commonly called just "station(s)" are train stations. If someone says "I'm going to the station" unless the context is otherwise established its almost always understood to mean train stations even if you could be going to any other type of station. If you were going to the police or bus station you would say "I'm going to the police/bus station" not "I'm going to the station". If someone transcludes this title its highly likely they are wanting to mark a stub as a train station stub and even more unlikely they are wanting broadcasting stations. I'd be fine with having this title as a DAB like Station is but the present target is far more suitable than the previous one.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 22:29, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: nominator makes a great point that this isn't specific enough to point to just one template, but I've never seen a disambiguation page in template space and as far as I'm aware that's totally nonstandard. If, however, it turns out that's a wrong assumption and a dab page is fine, then consider me in support for that. QuietHere (talk) 15:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Template dab pages are uncommon but they exist. MClay1 (talk) 10:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep unless we generally don't have stub redirects it seems likely per my comment above that this is by far the most likely target.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate into Template:Railstation-stub, Template:Radio-station-stub and Template:Tv-station-stub. greyzxq  talk 19:06, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Ketchup chips
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  . There appears to be a consensus that the provided sources are enough to establish notability for Ketchup chips, making this a WP:REDYES deletion to encourage article creation. signed,Rosguill talk 18:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Ketchup chips → Potato chip (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ketchup potato chips → Potato chip (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ketchup potato chip → Potato chip (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm not sure how useful this redirect is. It redirects to an empty section that contains a "Main article" link to List of potato chip brands which only mentions ketchup once as a seasoning for potato chips in Canada, the specific term "ketchup chips" only appears in the source for ketchup. I'm leaning delete unless someone can think of a better place or thinks they could be mentioned more in the relevant article. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 00:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ketchup chips are mentioned at Canadian cuisine, but I don't know if that's enough to justify a redirect. - Eureka Lott 00:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC
 * I don't think so honestly. Someone who isn't familiar with Canadian cuisine (like me) would most likely be trying to figure out what the heck ketchup chips are when searching for the term. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 16:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This is also not exclusive to Canada. Maybe redlink until there's a better target somewhere discussing the concept? In which case Delete. 193.37.240.154 (talk) 12:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait it isn't? (keep in mind that I"m American and have only heard of this term from 2 Canadians on the Wikipedia Discord server) ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 17:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The target section is no longer empty, however the mention of ketchup is still only once as a seasoning for potato chips in Canada. Also note there are other redirects to the same target - Ketchup potato chip and Ketchup potato chips. Jay  💬 11:52, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd say those are relevant here as well and should also be deleted if that's what happens to this one. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 14:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Bundled. Jay  💬 17:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If other popular potato chip flavours are valid redirect targets, I don't see why this wouldn't be relevant. This explains what ketchup chips are to people who don't understand but they're literally in every store that sells food and snacks that I've ever been to in my life. They're not some niche product.  Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 17:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The concern isn't that these are not good search terms, the issue is that we don't have suitable prose about them. Those sources are a good starting point to use to write that content, but until it has been written the redirect is confusing. Thryduulf (talk) 17:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I can add some content later (when I'm not on my phone). But I've been under the impression for years that deletion isn't cleanup. If someone types this in, they know that ketchup potato chips exist. I frequently see redirects to related topics in NPP. Being redirected to information about regional varieties of potato chips isn't confusing, although more context could be provided. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 17:54, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Just knowing that these exist is not helpful - someone searching for this almost certainly already knows that. They want to know more information than that, and we should not mislead people into thinking we have when we don't. Thryduulf (talk) 18:03, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, the reasons given in this discussion meet the "keep" rationales for redirects as outlined here and there are no valid reasons for deletion. I really don't understand how a redlink is somehow more useful to readers than some brief information about what they're looking for, even if it could be more detailed. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 18:19, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:RDEL 10 says "If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." Also, I'm not opposed to keeping the redirect so long as the redirect is retargeted to somewhere where one can get information as to what ketchup chips are other than that they exist. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:36, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, "They're not some niche product" might be true for somewhere where ketchup chips are popular (Like Canada), however I've never seen a single store here in the US selling them. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:38, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Isn't #10 used as a reason for G6 deletions? As in, delete this redirect so someone can create an article there. is yet another redirect category that is commonly used and the idea of deleting something because it could be better doesn't make sense at all to me.  Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 18:43, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't do G6 deletions enough to know. But there's WP:REDYES as well. To me, a redirect is practically useless if it simply confirms that such a thing exists and doesn't provide information on said thing. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:48, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That's where I've seen R10 used. As for REDYES, the reason for keeping the redirect is similar. We could have stubs for every regional variety of potato chips that meets GNG or we could have some detailed content about it at the main potato chip article. Both are valid options. But to me the redirect encourages someone to improve the prexisting content. Until someone actually creates an article about it, the redirect is useful and makes sense. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 18:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: WP:REDYES. There's been enough written about ketchup chips that would put them past WP:GNG. It seems that deletion to promote article creation would be worthwhile. There's an article (albeit a stub) about All-dressed, so the flavor of chip idea for an article isn't unprecedented. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:37, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
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WaveLight
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:14, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * WaveLight → Alcon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. The term "WaveLight" does not appear at all in the target page. (Note that there is a separate page "Wavelight" (note the different capitalisation) that has a hatnote pointing to "WaveLight".) PatricKiwi (talk) 08:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: It looks like the nomination concern has been mooted by edits to the target, but since it's been less than seven days since that change a relist seems in order to confirm that the changes are sticking. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:59, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * See if this version of the pre-BLAR history can be merged to the target. Jay  💬 10:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and done so. – Scyrme (talk) 15:54, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep because of the mention now. Jay  💬 14:28, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep as relevant content has been added to the target page. EpicPupper (talk) 18:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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South Ukraine counteroffensive
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 17:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * South Ukraine counteroffensive → 2022 Kherson counteroffensive (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A representative of Ukraine's military has declared Ukraine intends to do a counteroffensive against Russia on spring to cut Russia's corridor connecting Crimea with the mainland. This corridor is located in Ukraine's south. But the current target article is also about a counteroffensive in the south. This redirect is ambiguous and will turn problematic in the future. Besides, the most appropriate title for such a new counteroffensive will most likely be something like "2023 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive". A disambiguation page is not necessary. So I believe it is best to delete the redirect. It does not have any link and received one single view in the last 30 days anyways. Super  Ψ   Dro  16:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:58, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If ambiguous, it can be made a disambiguation page. Why will it turn problematic? If there is no article with mention of the Crimea counteroffensive yet, it means the current target is still a relevant "current" target. Jay  💬 17:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as there are several counteroffensives per Tavix, and redirecting to either a specific counteroffensive, or a generic page is not helpful to a reader who is specifically looking for counteroffensives. Jay  💬 15:50, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Southern Ukraine campaign? -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:31, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ..which is the target of Southern Ukraine offensive. I think the term counteroffensive is key in this discussion. Jay  💬 17:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * There's plenty of discussion about counteroffensives, including Southern Ukraine campaign and Southern Ukraine campaign. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete, already ambiguous and likely to only become more complicated the longer the war lasts. signed,Rosguill talk 03:16, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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Pithius
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . While alternatives to deletion were raised in the discussion, no real opposition to deletion has materialized. signed,Rosguill talk 05:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Pithius → Classification of demons (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention at the target anymore. Therefore, I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 15:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:57, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This would normally be a delete since there is no opposition, and I wouldn't oppose it either. My only observations are that this is a 2003-created page which was a stub that got BLARd. It has been getting 10+ daily page views the last 8 years. It could be because it is linked at List of theological demons or users may be looking for something else, probably a misspelling of Pittheus, Pytheas, or one of Pythius (disambiguation), or Pythias (disambiguation). Jay  💬 16:31, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * According to both the initial stub article and the now removed section in the target, "Pithius" is one of the demons in the classification in Francis Barrett's The Magus. The version of this text this text that I've had a look at doesn't seem to mention this name, although it does mention Pythius. It could be an alternative name from a different edition of this text, but either way the topic doesn't seem worth providing navigation for. I'm tempted by the idea of creating a slightly non-standard dab page from Jay's list above: these items are all difficult to spell, and "Pithius" is a plausible misspelling for all of them. I wouldn't leave that to the search engine, as it doesn't seem capable of handling it. – Uanfala (talk) 17:42, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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Jan Huygen van Linschoten, Market of Goa, Itinerario
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . After two relists, editors remain evenly divided between keep and delete. signed,Rosguill talk 05:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Jan Huygen van Linschoten, Market of Goa, Itinerario">Jan Huygen van Linschoten, Market of Goa, Itinerario → Market of Goa (Van Doetecum) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a procedural nomination, given that it has been nominated multiple times for CSD and it has been declined over and over again. In an effort to break that cycle, I am asking the wider community to have its say. The article was at its former title to. Arguments for its deletion can be seen at Talk:Jan Huygen van Linschoten, Market of Goa, Itinerario, Special:Permalink/1140019916, and Special:Permalink/1139589271. Additionally, see (permalink). Sdrqaz (talk) 01:41, 18 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - seems a reasonable enough way to search for this, and quite unambiguously takes someone searching it to exactly what they are looking for. Certainly nothing bad enough to warrant deleting a redirect that was this article's title for a year (WP:RFD). A7V2 (talk) 00:44, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, obviously. It's a nonsense string of out-of-order words put there by a college student doing an assignment (poorly) and simply wasn't noticed before. It's completely useless even for SEO searching (all those terms are in the article already) so just let the thing die already. xD No idea why this became a cause celebre for some of the admins. We aren't going to create Leonardo da Vinci, Mona Lisa, portraits of women, or Dan Jurgens, page 37, Death of Superman, or Avengers, that scene where he's really fat, Liam Hemsworth's brother and we shouldn't keep this silliness. Already fixed the incoming links and, w/r/t concerns, no there isn't enough traffic for it to be an actual concern. —  Llywelyn II   07:34, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Delete per LlywelynII, mainly because of the out of order terms. The redirect title should not be a list of search terms in random order. Also, I don't know why the target has a disambiguated title. Move the target to Market of Goa. Jay  💬 10:29, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep because this was the title of the article for a year. I agree this is a very, very unlikely search term, but given it is likely there will be outdated links from other sites which pointed to this article and therefore now instead point to this redirect.  J947  † edits 20:17, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If you have a single example of that, there might be some merit in keeping the redirect. As is, no, I don't think the traffic on the page speaks to anyone having noticed and linked it. — Llywelyn II   13:07, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I disagree with this statement; I reckon from RfD experience that at least half the time in a case like such the redirect does get views from old links. The average potential harm in deleting this is greater than the slight maintenance that eventuates from it being kept.Buuuuuuut, now that you ask for a single example, using this Backlink Checker I can give you one: (and ). Not much, especially judging how little-used this redirect has been even while an RfD has been ongoing, but it is something. It's a pain to others if it's deleted, and redirects exist just for navigation.  J947  † edits 04:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * , it's orthogonal to this discussion but the article's title should be (Van Linschoten), right? Or am I being dumb...  J947  † edits 03:27, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No, the page is about the art which wasn't made by the author of the book it appeared in. — Llywelyn II   13:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, not sure why I didn't ctrl-F for Doetecum in the first place.  J947  † edits 04:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * But why have the disambiguator at all? Jay  💬 18:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Because it's not the market at Goa. It's some random artwork of the market at Goa in the past. — Llywelyn II   13:06, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It is a work titled Market of Goa. What is it ambiguous with? There is not one market in Goa, and enwiki doesn't have anything to say about a Goan market. Jay  💬 13:31, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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Dennis Rogers
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Dennis Rogers → Denis Rogers (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Incorrect spelling left over from old move ★Trekker (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Completely plausible spelling, considering Dennis is written more commonly with a double n. No harm in keeping. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per CycloneYoris. This redirect is potentially helpful to people who're searching for his name like that. Disambiguate per J947 and all "disambiguate" !voters below, and add a "See also" section including Denis Rogers' article. Thanks for finding all these other entries! Regards,  SONIC 678 01:39, 1 February 2023 (UTC), edited 01:46, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambiguate. I was just about to say what these two said, but this is an ambiguous title. Search is more helpful than a straight target in this instance IMO, despite a plethora of unhelpful partial title matches. I suggest disambiguation would be the most helpful, but equally all the Dennises Rogers mentioned on the site carry little information beyond the mention.  J947  † edits 01:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * To add, a search outside of Wikipedia also results in a lot of hits for several other people and fictional charaters named "Dennis Rogers", it might be misleading to direct all people to Denis Rogers.★Trekker (talk) 22:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Reaffirming that I strongly disagree with keeping as is. Correct titles should be prioritised over incorrect titles. The dab page sort of stretches it at the moment, but I'm fine with that.  J947  † edits 04:14, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Search still works. Denis Rogers is not in search results so would not be found. Peter James (talk) 22:28, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry what do you mean?★Trekker (talk) 12:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It's still possible to search for something if it's the same as an article title. Search for "Dennis Rogers" and the Denis Rogers article is not in the results, so without a redirect would not be found. Peter James (talk) 16:18, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What? That makes no sense, if you search "Dennis Rogers" you get redirected to Denis Rogers, and if you search "Denis Rogers" you also get that article.★Trekker (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. I find the following additional instances in a search for "Dennis Rogers":
 * 1) Mike Rogers (Alabama politician), full name Michael Dennis Rogers
 * 2) Dennis Rogers, Vancouver Canadians minor league baseball team manager in 2003, 2004, and 2006
 * 3) Dennis Rogers, columnist for The Raleigh News & Observer in Barbecue in North Carolina and Lexington Barbecue Festival
 * 4) Dennis Rogers (strongman & arm wrestler), in Grip strength
 * 5) Jay "Saint" Smith ("an outreach pastor named Dennis Rogers took Smith under his wing")
 * 6) Dennis Rogers, volunteer and recipient in the 2019 New Year Honours
 * 7) Dennis Rogers, United States Marine Corps Brigadier General, in Kemper Military School
 * 8) The Dennis Rogers Show (2007), Roger Rohatgi, lead actor
 * 9) Dennis Rogers, fictional British Intelligence agent sent to rendezvous with a Swiss Banker in James Bond 007: Light of My Death
 * Of that group, I would guess that the general is likely notable, and at least some of the rest are noteworthy, so there is enough to disambiguate from what is currently a misspelling. BD2412  T 19:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate. That's the way to go; enough there to make that worthwhile.  Schwede 66  20:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Disambiguate ambiguous name. Boleyn (talk) 08:12, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * Weak keep. Certainly no reason to delete this plausible misspelling, but DABing when only two potential targets have WP articles and one only has "Dennis" as a middle name seems unnecessary. An anonymous username, not my real name  13:57, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a reasonable search term and the only plausible article whose subject this would refer to is the misspelling. Should any of the people named Dennis Rogers actually have a page, then this can be easily rectified, but absent such a page existing it makes sense to keep. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)"> Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate'. There seem to be enough entries to justify a page. In any case, the New Zealand politician, whose name is not spelled this way, is not particularly well-known and would be prominently featured on the DAB anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patar knight (talk • contribs) 04:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:39, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per J947, and rely on search results because there are several mentions of the name on enwiki. Agree with An anonymous username that the DAB is unnecessary. I went through the drafted dab and all entries it led to, and I don't see that a DAB page more helpful for the minor mentions in articles, than what a search would provide. Some entries are really stretched, such as the The Dennis Rogers Show linked from a page of its co-host. Disagree with Peter James, that searching for "Dennis Rogers" will not show up Denis Rogers. It does now, and will work even after Dennis Rogers is deleted. Jay  💬 14:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate or delete - I think that entries for the Vancouver Canadians manager and brigadier general, plus the current target, are just enough to justify a disambiguation page. I don't disagree with the deletion arguments but at this point in the discussion I think it's going to be very difficult to sway a consensus for deletion. signed,Rosguill talk 19:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep and disambiguate - the Dennis/Denis error is common enough that it makes sense to list entries for both names on one page, and there aren't so many entries that a single disambiguation page would be too long. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a very plausible misspelling and the current target is by the most likely of those who currently have an article. No prejudice against a dab page, but it should not be primary. Thryduulf (talk) 21:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * missing word "not" added Thryduulf (talk) 09:45, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree that Denis/Dennis is a very likely search term. Denis Rogers does seem like the primary target, and should remain so, but a dab page can be created as a secondary page. Fieari (talk) 09:21, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep as misspelling only A dab of random one-time mentions buried in other pages is a solution looking for a problem.—Bagumba (talk) 09:25, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * But there a problem here, as it stands. Keeping as is is detrimental to the navigation of readers wanting to find a Dennis Rogers. Deleting improves that navigability, but comes with the side problem of making it difficult to find Denis Rogers – our search engine endless surprises in its fallibilities; it looks as if deleting this redirect will remove any trace of the single-n article from the double-n search. Disambiguation, in whatever format, solves both problems.  J947  † edits 04:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation isn't the only way to solve this problem. We can delete this redirect, but create another one, say Dennis Rogers (New Zealand doctor) -> Denis Rogers. This will ensure that the single-n article will show up in the double-n searches. – Uanfala (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Right, . Support disambiguation still, but weakly.  J947  † edits 06:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: |Denis_Rogers pageview comparison. Denis Rogers 8,843–6,669 Dennis Rogers. I think this points to a supermajority of readers searching up Dennis Rogers not referring to Denis Rogers.  J947  † edits 04:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per J947, Rosguill and Uanfala. Delete this redirect, but create another one, say Dennis Rogers (New Zealand doctor) -> Denis Rogers (to ensure that the single-n article will show up in the double-n searches) looks like the best option. --Nagsb (talk) 12:53, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Sock blocked – dudhhr talk contribs (he/they) 16:17, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * J947 mentioned above that he did create one, but with a different title - Dennis Rogers (politician). Jay  💬 13:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I see now, that is good enough as well. Nagsb (talk) 14:58, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Sock blocked – dudhhr talk contribs (he/they) 16:17, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I see why this is so vexing. The real Dennis Rogerses we've found are so minor, I don't think anyone would bother with such a disambiguation page if we didn't have Denis Rogers. Because the double-N spelling is more common in English, I'd have no issue with the redirect if the situations were reversed. I support deletion because I think readers searching this (a) are not looking for the New Zealand politician; and (b) are not appreciably better served by the drafted disambiguation page than by search results. (The latter is a comment on the marginal nature of the people listed, not the efforts of those editors who made the attempt.) --BDD (talk) 21:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
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Digvijay Chautala
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 26%23Digvijay Chautala

Isabella Losa
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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural close  . There's already an AFD for that page. (non-admin closure)  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 19:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Isabella Losa → : (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Make it a redirect to Isabella Losa. The Spanish wikipedia has a similar redirect, and the first citation on the target article is, rough translation "Isabel, the nonexistent wise-lady who even has a street". DavidLeeLambert (talk) 18:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Procedural close – RFD is for discussion on what is already a redirect. Discussion regarding turning an article into a redirect falls under WP:AFD, and a discussion is already ongoing on the page. Randi Moth (talk) 18:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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Ramanagar
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . wbm1058 (talk) 19:00, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ramanagar → Ramanagara (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect leads to an article about a city with a different spelling, (with an 'a' on the end). That article contains no uses of the redirect's spelling. There is also a disambiguation page at that lists other places that do use the redirect's spelling. Moreover, that disambiguation page also lists places with a third spelling, "Ramnagar" (without an 'a' between the 'm' and the 'n'). For that third spelling, there is also another disambiguation page at. That different disambiguation page also has a mixture of spellings, some of which use the first "Ramanagar" spelling! See also the recent discussion at Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 3, about a fourth spelling. There are only three articles that link to the redirect. My inclination would be to merge the two disambiguation pages and redirect there. However, I don't really know whether the spellings should be considered distinct and whether there is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC or not. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Move Ramanagar (disambiguation) to Ramanagar. If the merged disambig page is not at this title, then redirect Ramanagar to that page. Jay  💬 17:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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Urdu culture
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Urdu-speaking people. (non-admin closure) EpicPupper (talk) 18:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Urdu culture → Culture of Pakistan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to Urdu-speaking people as not all Pakistanis are speakers of Urdu. An anonymous username, not my real name 16:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom and also that not all Urdu-speakers are Pakistani. Thryduulf (talk) 17:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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33-0
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * 33-0 → 2022 Indianapolis Colts–Minnesota Vikings game (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Refers to a score during the game, highly unlikely search term. ~ <b style="color: #00733f">Eejit43</b> ( talk ) 12:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. While the top couple of results on Google are for this match, the majority of results are for a dark brown shade of hair colouring, sub-strings of various product codes and a subclass of British Rail Class 33 locomotives. It's far too ambiguous to be usefully disambiguated. Thryduulf (talk) 17:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. Very unlikely search term and, as Thryduulf said, highly ambiguous. greyzxq  talk 17:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as the term is ambiguous. Steel1943  (talk) 17:16, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - individual regular season NFL games get standalone articles? This wasn't even the game's final score. Ambiguous per Thryduulf; search results would be better. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: There is some precedent for redirects like this (being a score that the losing team was up by before a significant comeback) existing, notably ; however, that game was the Super Bowl and 28-3 entered the lexicon far more becoming the dominant meaning of that term, whereas 33-0 has not permeated the zeitgeist in the same way. As noted by Thryduulf, there are multiple possible targets. The weak delete is that this redirect does seem to have a surprising amount of usage ~2 hits/day from the beginning of 2023 until the day before it was nominated; however, the ambiguity of the redirect doesn't override that. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 12:34, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
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Journocaust
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:12, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Journocaust → December 2022 Twitter suspensions (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article, seems to refer to a separate event/name. ~ <b style="color: #00733f">Eejit43</b> ( talk ) 12:52, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Recommend deletion, or redirect to Social media use by Donald Trump as the only search results I found for the term relate to Trump's retweeting of an antisemitic Tweet in 2017, and 4Chan posts using the term. Bakkster Man (talk) 13:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete or retarget to Social media use by Donald Trump per Bakkster. Jay  💬 15:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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List of Chinese films of 2021/List of Chinese films of 2022
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 08:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Information for [2021 and] 2022 films is not included in the 2020 list ~ <b style="color: #00733f">Eejit43</b> ( talk ) 12:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * List of Chinese films of 2021 → List of Chinese films of 2020 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * List of Chinese films of 2022 → List of Chinese films of 2020 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nominations and rationales combined. Thryduulf (talk) 12:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:REDLINK. We don't seem to have lists of Chinese films for years later than 2020. Thryduulf (talk) 12:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Thryduulf. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
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Grade (education)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Grade.  Salvio giuliano 08:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Grade (education)">Grade (education) → Grading in education (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Grade (education)" is ambiguous with education grades like seventh grade (which the grade dab poiints to Educational stage). It is confusing that the dab's first entry was "Grade (education)", which I incorrectly linked to, thinking it was the "grade" for the year in a student's educational stage—it was not. Grade (education) was actually moved back in 2013 with the reason reduce conflation with Educational stage, aka "grades".

It's uncommon for a parenthetically disambiguated term to still be ambiguous. I suggest redirecting "Grade (education)" to the Grade dab as an R from incomplete disambiguation. —Bagumba (talk) 07:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Grade per nom. I've bypassed the use of this redirect on the dab page. Thryduulf (talk) 10:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per the above. The grade-as-class year and grade-as-evaluation ambiguity is insurmountable. BD2412  T 14:28, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Another similar redirect, Grades (education), exists. Steel1943  (talk) 16:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Given the age of this discussion, I suggest either nominating that separately after this is closed citing the outcome or relisting this discussion early to include that one. My recommendation would be to retarget to the Grade dab page as an . Thryduulf (talk) 18:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Or just boldly make "grades" consistent based on consensus established for "grade" here. —Bagumba (talk) 01:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Small, Medium, or Large Lump of Rock, Gas, or Ice, possibly Spherical, that May (or May Not) be a Planet
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 * The result of the discussion was delete per WP:G3.  . (non-admin closure) ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Template:Infobox Small, Medium, or Large Lump of Rock, Gas, or Ice, possibly Spherical, that May (or May Not) be a Planet">Template:Infobox Small, Medium, or Large Lump of Rock, Gas, or Ice, possibly Spherical, that May (or May Not) be a Planet → Template:Infobox planet (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete implausible redirect. Clearly an in-joke but the page doesn't actually need to exist. MClay1 (talk) 05:24, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh, per Special:Diff/414598883 it seems a valid way of expressing an opinion. Ancient history now, anyhow.  J947  † edits 06:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A red link will get the same point across. No one is ever actually going to use this redirect (nor should they). MClay1 (talk) 09:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not a plausible or valid redirect or even search term. Gonnym (talk) 10:00, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per above: highly implausible and an unlikely search term. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 16:13, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Deleted per WP:G3, and I'm considering create protection. It had already been deleted as patent nonsense and then undeleted days later by an administrator employing the "just a joke" defense, and had also been proposed to be deleted under now-deprecated criterion WP:T3. This "joke" redirect (WP:R3) was created two years after the IAU decision which led to Pluto's redefinition as a dwarf planet, making it obscure even at the time; it does not refer to any "debate" on Wikipedia and nothing in the history suggests it ever did. If this is recreated again it should redirect to IAU definition of planet, maybe the subsection #Plutoed which explains the point being made. I would prefer if editors would not create pages as jokes in the first place. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a template though. Wouldn't a cross-namespace redirect be confusing? MClay1 (talk) 13:33, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
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Phulrraa
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 14:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Phulrraa → Pulrah (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target, and does not seem to be a plausible typo.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 18:13, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 03:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Onel5969 This is one of the common spellings of this locality used in media that describe it. For example:
 * The Nation newspaper in Pakistan: "it signaled to stop a suspected vehicle in Phulrra locality"
 * Pakistan Government electoral roll: on Page 34: Electoral Area Phulrra
 * Map prepared for the UN: shows name Phulrra in this location
 * In the local language(s) this "rr" sound is spelled with ڑ which does not have an equivalent in English. So the number of possible ad hoc spellings that exist for the place name using the English/Latin alphabet or numerous. I do not actually think it is necessary to mention every possible variant spelling in the target article, as this just causes unneccessary clutter. Likewise the "ph"/"p" is because the sound at the beginning is pronounced differently in Urdu, Punjabi, and Hindko. In the first language, it is aspirated like "ph," in the other two languages it is not as these languages use a tonal pronunciation in this position (also something which has no equivalent in English). عُثمان (talk) 18:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The presence or absence of "h" at the end is also due to a difference in the aspiration/tonality reflexes of Urdu vs. Punjabi and Hindko. Word final "h" is used for tone in the latter two languages, but functions as a consonant in the first. عُثمان (talk) 18:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Oh woops, it did not even occur to me that this redirect had two "a"s at the end. I had intended to make this for Phulrra. Carry on.
 * عُثمان (talk) 18:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's not uncommon to see aa in informal romanisations of the long a (= ā), and عُثمان has explained the other apparent discrepancies. But even if that name were incorrect (which it is not), then the redirect would still be worth preserving as an R from move (the article used to be at that title from 2007 until last December). – Uanfala (talk) 19:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per Uanfala, especially this being the location of the article for several years. Thryduulf (talk) 10:22, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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Pepper sauce
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 * The result of the discussion was Setindexify  . signed,Rosguill talk 05:38, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Pepper sauce → Sauce poivrade (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Pepper sauce could refer to either this, or hot sauce, or any sauce made with peppers. In fact the redirect when it was first made originally redirected to Hot sauce until it was nominated for speedy deletion in 2010, then was redirected to a more specific pepper sauce for many years, then changed to the current target just over a year ago. Retarget back to hot sauce or find another target? Colgatepony234 (talk) 03:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Setindexify -- 65.92.244.151 (talk) 03:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Setindexify at List of pepper sauces. This is a highly likely search term, but it is also ambiguous. We have articles on many types of pepper-based sauce, including the current target, Bajan pepper sauce, Peppercorn sauce, Shito, Harissa and Chili sauce. There are likely others too. Thryduulf (talk) 10:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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Color Lines (Loop)
<span id="Orange Line (Loop)"> <span id="Green Line (Loop)"> <span id="Purple Line (Loop)"> <span id="Brown Line (Loop)"> <span id="Pink Line (Loop)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 26%23Color Lines (Loop)

Alan Umstead (musician)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 14:45, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Alan Umstead (musician)">Alan Umstead (musician) → Nashville String Machine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While Alan Umstead may be a member of Nashville String Machine (according to RateYourMusic), that name is never mentioned in the article and I was unable to find any additional information on Umstead's assocation with the group. I think it's an incredibly unlikely search anyway, but on the off-chance it is kept, I'd also suggest it be moved to Alan Umstead to remove the unnecessary disambiguation. Sock  ( tock talk)  18:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 03:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom as unlikely, and since the subject is not mentioned at target. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
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The Catholic Answer
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 18:12, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The Catholic Answer → Our Sunday Visitor (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention at target. I recomment deletion. Veverve (talk) 18:39, 1 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: No one has yet to add a mention to the article. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 03:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The Catholic Answer was a magazine published by OSV (see here). It might make more sense to add mention to the article about the former publication rather than to simply delete the redirect. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 19:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. I don't think mention can be added to the target per WP:UNDUE. Jay  💬 14:26, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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.test (international domain name)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to .test. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:52, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id=".test (international domain name)">.test (international domain name) → List of Internet top-level domains (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect pointed to Special:Permalink/362520528 when it was created. In the meantime, the part has been split into a separate lemma with the shorter name .test. In my opinion, the longer redirection would only be misleading and could therefore be removed. F10sh (talk) 09:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 03:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to .test: If the section it redirected to has since been deleted than there's no point in having the redirect, however because the .test page exists it makes much more sense to redirect there in the first place. greyzxq  talk 17:30, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to .test EpicPupper (talk) 18:18, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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Chicken fart
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 09:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Chicken fart → Flatulence (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was created "to discourage vandalism" which isn't a valid reason to create a redirect. Delete as pointless. An anonymous username, not my real name 02:05, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I made it after deleting an nonconstructive creation. But Flatulence is actually only applying to humans, and we do not seem to have an article for animal. So I do agree the redirect is not that useful. But I disagree with the idea that "discouraging vandalism is not a reason for having a redirect".  Even chicken flatulence is likely a notable topic. So the most constructive thing for An anonymous username, not my real name, is to write an article at the redirect location. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:48, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If a name has no article but it is a magnet for faulty creations, it may be protected against creation Cambalachero (talk) 02:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: Now that I check it, the point was moot anyway. The page was deleted for vandalism just in 2007 and 2009. There's no vandalism to discourage. Cambalachero (talk) 14:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. The target doesn't discuss flatulence by any bird, and redirects are a poor way to prevent vandalism. Glades12 (talk) 09:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cambalachero. The two deletes happened way back. If there are new vandals, protect the page. Jay  💬 05:57, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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Life Before Earth
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 26%23Life Before Earth

Akademitscheski nautschno-isdatelski, proiswodstwenno-poligrafitscheski i knigorasprostranitelski zentr Rossijskoi akademii nauk "Isdatelstwo Nauka"
<span id="Akademitscheski nautschno-isdatelski, proiswodstwenno-poligrafitscheski i knigorasprostranitelski zentr Rossijskoi akademii nauk &quot;Isdatelstwo Nauka&quot;"> <span id="Akademitscheski nautschno-isdatelski, proiswodstwenno-poligrafitscheski i knigorasprostranitelski zentr Rossijskoi akademii nauk"> <span id="Akademičeskij naučno-izdatel'skij proizvodstvenno-poligrafičeskij i knigorasprostranitel'skij centr RAN Izdatel'stvo &quot;Nauka&quot;"> <span id="Akademičeskij naučno-izdatel'skij proizvodstvenno-poligrafičeskij i knigorasprostranitel'skij centr RAN"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 28%23Akademitscheski nautschno-isdatelski, proiswodstwenno-poligrafitscheski i knigorasprostranitelski zentr Rossijskoi akademii nauk "Isdatelstwo Nauka"