Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 18

March 18
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 18, 2023.

List of Blu-ray Disc devices
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 27%23List of Blu-ray Disc devices

List of released blu-ray discs
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 18:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * List of released blu-ray discs → Blu-ray (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No such list at target, and absurd list topic. Should have been deleted instead of being redirected in the first place. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:40, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete + Comment: I can agree with deleting it, but there was a brief list at the target back in July 2007. This was during the Format war between Blu-ray vs. HD DVD when things were moving rapidly.  Anyways, the list was removed a few months later in an significant rewrite that instead put somewhat similar information in the "Overview" section which currently exists in an updated form in the Launch and sales development section.  Given the circumstances, I would agree with deletion.  --Super Goku V (talk) 04:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no such list. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:49, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
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A Grade
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 18:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * A Grade → Grading in education (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could also refer to Food grading. Delete this ambiguous redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, it's an ambiguous redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. Veverve (talk) 10:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A (grade) can be bundled here. It redirects to Grading systems by country. Possibly retarget to A which resolves the ambiguity. Jay  💬 06:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be bundled since I see the nominated redirect being a bit different than say B (grade) or C (grade) since the nominated redirect is a full title whereas the others have "(grade)" as a disambiguator ... but all of them together may need to be nominated on the future. Steel1943  (talk) 17:22, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete as ambiguous and likely to be confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as highly ambiguous. On the first three pages of google results I got hits for education, timber, general (A-grade), Listed buildings, six different non-notable UK companies (all in different fields), Jujutsu Kaisen and a restaurant in Porto. Thryduulf (talk) 12:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Thryduulf's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * What's the problem with disambiguation? This does not seem like an implausible search term to me. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:15, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
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Rap and hiphop
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Hip hop music.  Salvio giuliano 17:57, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Rap and hiphop → Hip hop (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think the target Hip hop music is better: it's where Hip hop and Rap music redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:23, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 17:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per above. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 18:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
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Spectator Club
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 25%23Spectator Club

Draft:Las Vegas Strip Street Circuit
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 17:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Draft:Las Vegas Strip Street Circuit → Las Vegas Grand Prix (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is the result of a new editor creating a redirect from Las Vegas Strip Street Circuit to Las Vegas Grand Prix, as it is WP:TOOSOON to create the article for this circuit. As the redirect was accepted into the mainspace, this redirect solves no purpose, and may indicate to other editors that a draft is already inconstruction when it is not. So I suggest this is deleted. SSSB (talk) 09:51, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Forgot to delete the redirect after accepting the redirect.  141 Pr  {{{sup|contribs}}/Best page} 10:21, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
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2022 protests rollback of women's rights in the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 17:59, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * 2022 protests rollback of women's rights in the United States → 2022–2023 abortion protests (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2022 protests rollback of reproductive rights in the United States → 2022–2023 abortion protests (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2022 protests suppressing pro-choice in the United States → 2022–2023 abortion protests (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2022 protests suppressing women's rights in the United States → 2022–2023 abortion protests (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2022 protests suppressing reproductive rights in the United States → 2022–2023 abortion protests (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The first two are simply grammatically incorrect ("protests rollback"). The third through fifth wrongly imply that the protests had an adverse effect on women's rights. I assume an "against" was intended in all cases, but even if corrected none would be a particularly plausible search term, so delete all. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 07:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all per Tamzin. Also agree there's not much point in renaming, but no prejudice against anyone creating the "^against" redirects in the future. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 13:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * (and others) - UPDATE: if understood correctly, moved third, fourth, fifth RDs above to "against" versions instead as suggested - hope this is *entirely* ok - please rv (or related) if otherwise of course - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 11:47, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with the ones with "against", but in moving them you created two new double-redirects at the nominated titles, so still "delete all" [of the ones which were nominated]. :) &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 13:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * (and others) - As OA of the RDs - Thank You *very much* for your comments - and correctlon(s) (ie, yes - "against" was intended) - no problem whatsoever re whatever is finally decided with these RDs - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 03:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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Big'uns
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 29%23Big'uns

Three-Body - TV series
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 26%23Three-Body - TV series

Iconic Bassist Extrodinair...The New Era of Live Music
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 18:02, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Iconic Bassist Extrodinair...The New Era of Live Music → Thundercat (musician) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Short-lived (3 weeks) title of a promotional parallel article duplicating the current target. Current redirect is a result of a move to  and a subsequent BLAR. Pageviews are negligible (2 last year), so I think this can be safely deleted. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 06:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete not a remotely plausible search term and no useful history.  Hut 8.5  19:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
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ICC members
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  Salvio giuliano 18:04, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * ICC members → List of International Cricket Council members (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I feel like States parties to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (i.e. the members of the International Criminal Court) would be just as reasonable of a target as a list of International Cricket Council members. As such, I propose that we convert the redirect to a disambiguation page. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 01:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. This doesn't really deserve a full dab page, so drafted a minimalist one.  J947  † edits 06:25, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, in my opinion, I think International Criminal Court is more likely to be the primary topic in this context, so I recomment retarget to States parties to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, which is also the target of ICC countries. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The thing here is that members of the International Cricket Council are solely referred to as members, unlike International Criminal Court parties.  J947  † edits 21:34, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes but this got nearly 80 hits yesterday, and that must be because of ICC arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova, not the sudden popularity of cricket! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * So you're advocating for a temporary retarget? On the first day of the 2019 Cricket World Cup this redirect scored itself 281 views, as readers flocked to see which teams had qualified and why. The 2023 World Cup is coming up.  J947  † edits 18:56, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You make a very good point! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 22:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate: Two clear possible targets, and over a long period of time, there isn't a clear majority of people looking for one target in particular. So dab page is best solution. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 09:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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