Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 30

March 30
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 30, 2023.

Untitled Batman film
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 19:07, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Untitled Batman film → The Batman (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer applies: has a title. Steel1943 (talk) 18:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm indifferent, but this could potentially go to The Batman (film) to capture content for which the draft @Draft:Untitled third The Batman film exists, but some additional verbiage would need to be added to the section beyond the first sequel in order to be valid. -2pou (talk) 19:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: The subject has a title. Any future untitled Batman films would use sequel terminology such as the third film draft in correlation to this film. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: As the film has a title, this redirect does not apply anymore, and in the future it will likely apply to other Batman films. —El Millo (talk) 21:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above two comments: the film has a title so the redirect does not apply anymore. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 14:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per reasons given above. There is also two different Batman films in the work as of now, one for the DCU and one as a sequel to the 2022 film, so having a single "Untitled Batman film" redirect anywhere is non-optimal.★Trekker (talk) 15:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:UFILM. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Bail out
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Bailout (disambiguation). The process of the merge of Bailing out may be handled independently.  Jay  💬 10:31, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Bail out → Bailout (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bailed out → Bailout (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As verbs, these terms have a much stronger likelihood than they do as nouns of referring to one of the other meanings listed at Bailout (disambiguation). I encountered this when writing that someone had posted bail for someone else, and was surprised to be taken to the current target. Retarget to DAB. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 18:03, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, an odd wrinkle: Bailing out is a separate DAB, created by the same user (ZL) as these redirects. I'm not sure which would be the better approach here: a) merge Bailing out to Bailout (disambiguation) or b) move Bailing out to Bail out over the redirect, add a mention of posting bail, retarget Bailed out there, and link to that from Bailout (disambiguation). A third option would be to simply retarget both of these to Bailing out'' and add that mention, but I don't think that's a very logical navigation structure. Right now I lean toward (a). --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 18:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support nom's target proposals and (a), for the reasons they give. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:11, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:43, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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Bade Miyan Chote Miyan 2
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 19:12, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Bade Miyan Chote Miyan 2 → Akshay Kumar (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

(deletion) Reason-This film is not announced yet and if announced why it has a redirect if the first film of this franchise is not relesed yet. Tousif.15 (talk) 11:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, WP:REDLINK, and the fact that it makes absolutely no sense to redirect a title from a media project to one of potentially multiple notable subjects which are or may be attached to the project. Steel1943  (talk) 20:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: Also, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 3. Steel1943  (talk) 20:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Douglass Mackey
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 08:25, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Douglass Mackey → Paul Nehlen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm uncomfortable with redirecting the name of a (currently) non-notable person to the biography of the man who "outed" his online identity. This redirect's creator also created the Stephen French (troll) redirect which was deleted per "If he's not notable on his own I don't see good reason to have any sort of redirect at all."

Wikipedia briefly had an article about him in April 2018 which was deleted by per (G10: Biography of a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced) despite its citations to HuffPost, New York Daily News, Southern Poverty Law Center and Daily Dot.

Arguably he has become notable since January 2021 when he was charged with disseminating misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote. This was not mentioned in the previously deleted version of his bio, but has been covered by reliable sources: – wbm1058 (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * New York Times
 * WPTV
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete to facilitate uninhibited Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
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Richest american guy ever
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Salvio giuliano 08:21, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Richest american guy ever → List of wealthiest historical figures (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems to be a joke redirect that originally redirected to a joke article that has since been deleted. This is not a serious or encyclopedic search term, and it is also not specifically addressed in the current target. As such, I propose deletion. TNstingray (talk) 14:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Multiple target suggestions. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete – I wouldn't necessarily call it a joke, but it's certainly very casual and an unlikely search term. If it is kept, it should be redirected to List of richest Americans in history, which is where its original target now redirects. MClay1 (talk) 12:25, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * May also want to consider: Wealthiest american guy ever, Richest american guy in history, Wealthiest american guy in history and Richest american guy. MClay1 (talk) 12:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unlikely Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  02:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - per nom. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete unlikely synonym at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:40, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Better as a search term than a title holding anything. Steel1943  (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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Bishnupuriya Utsab
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 11%23Bishnupuriya Utsab

Beaney
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Beaney → Beaney House of Art and Knowledge (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Disambiguate. I tried to do that but it was reverted. I don't see a great predominance of results for this museum in Google search, so it doesn't appear greater than the surname that the museum derives its name from in the first 100 results. Most results are just people with this surname. The museum shows a greater affinity for "The Beaney" instead. -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 04:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as in revision of 24 March, as the most helpful to the reader. Pam  D  06:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate Can't see it being a primary topic with single-digits views per day for the target. Only three people with the name, so make it a dab page, as opposed to a namelist with hatnote.—Bagumba (talk) 09:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Move redirect name to The Beaney. It has been called The Beaney by the locals for many decades - certainly when I was there in the 1960s, and probably long before. I originally named this redirect, Beaney, because I was aware that WP didn't like the use of "The". I did not know then, that WP can make exceptions. Most Canterbury residents and tourists (of which there are many thousands in summer) will search for The Beaney, and never for whatever long name the Council chooses for it this year or next. Storye book (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as proposed by nom and Bagumba. The Beaney already exists as a redirect to the museum. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. I had not realised that there was already a The Beaney redirect, sorry. In that case, I agree with the disambiguate policy. Storye book (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Dabify per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:53, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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Turkish invasion
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 17%23Turkish invasion

Opposite of mass incarceration
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 06:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Opposite of mass incarceration → Prison abolition movement (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

On the cusp of being, but probably not quite, a deleted article with a freaky title. Delete as a silly, unlikely search term. An anonymous username, not my real name 01:58, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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