Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 24

May 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 24, 2023.

Wikipedia:NQ
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 1%23Wikipedia:NQ

Estate of Swedish Farmers
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Riksdag of the Estates. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 01:34, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Estate of Swedish Farmers → Farmer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Estate of Swedish Peasants → Farmer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RFD. The target article does not mention these topics (and should not mention these topics) but there is the potential for an article. These should be deleted unless a suitable target can be found 192.76.8.86 (talk) 17:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Riksdag of the Estates which has relevant content. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:02, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Riksdag of the Estates per Presidentman. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 11:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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The Graduation
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Graduation (disambiguation) and created The Graduation (mixtape) as suggested. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 01:37, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The Graduation → Brianna Perry (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The Graduation is a common term and should redirect to Graduation or at least to Graduation (disambiguation). — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:04, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Support the retarget per nom., with a preference to retarget to the DAB. Veverve (talk) 01:14, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to disambiguation, add The Graduation (mixtape) instead. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 06:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support retarget per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:53, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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The Graduation (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  01:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The Graduation (film) → Dolphy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect should be deleted since it creates the false impression that the film has a Wikipedia entry. It currently redirects to a lengthy entry for Dolphy where it may or may not be even mentioned. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No mention, would not survive a DABMENTION. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 06:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I can't see it being mentioned at Graduation_(disambiguation) per MOS:DABNOENTRY. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:18, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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Avengers: Secret Wars
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:42, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Avengers: Secret Wars → Avengers: Endgame (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The "Endgame" "future" section talks about the future of the Avengers franchise as a whole. Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six is more specific about the film, and has a more related context. As pointed, the film will close the "Multiverse" story arc of the MCU, and that means that although it would strictly be a sequel to the Avengers, it will likely be more related to MCU films released closer in time than to Endgame (same as Infinity War & Endgame are incomprehensible if you saw "Age of Ultron" and jump to those sequels without watching anything else in the meantime). And note that this is a temporary redirect anyway, Draft:Avengers: Secret Wars will be moved to mainspace once the film starts filming. Cambalachero (talk) 14:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment: Both the Future entry at the Endgame article and the Phase Six article feature relatively the same contents necessary to understand what this upcoming film is. From my understanding, the Secret Wars redirect, along with others for forthcoming MCU works, were redirected to relevant "Future" sections at the predecessor articles so they could be linked to at the Phase articles without just being a double link to those articles themselves via a redirect to a section there, and I believe there was a policy reason for not doing that. All of the info on Secret Wars will inevitably be in its own article, so I don't feel too strongly about it necessarily needing a change, although the Phase Six article does include when it is supposed to begin filming, which the Endgame one does not. Both sections at the Endgame and Phase Six articles do point to each other, as well. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six: Upon further inspection, there are other MCU redirects for upcoming projects linking to the Phase articles, and since Phase Six has some slightly further details than the Endgame section provides, I see no harm in retargeting this and the other upcoming Avengers film Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:08, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Six. Better to link to an explicit section discussion exactly this rather than a section which discusses it amongst other things. There is no issue with a circular link in this case. Per MOS:CIRCULAR, circular links to redirects with possibilities (which this is one) to a relevant section are fine . A7V2 (talk) 01:14, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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East expressway
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  01:58, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * East expressway → Interstate 20 in Georgia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Title is far too ambiguous and could refer to countless places. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no mention of this name at the current target. Is it used informally? From a quick search, the only road I can find which actually uses this name is the North Luzon East Expressway, but I don't know if it's ever referred to as just the East Expressway. This definitely seems like it could be an informal name for countless roads. A7V2 (talk) 01:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:19, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. –Fredddie™ 21:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Yikes. --Rschen7754 07:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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Elle(film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.   BD2412  T 04:30, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Elle(film)">Elle(film) → Elle (film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Elle (film), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 05:36, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per : R from move.  J947  † edits 05:39, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keeping a problematic redirect just because it is a R from move sets a poor precedent. Otherwise, we'd be keeping a lot of redirects that are eligible for one or more of the "G" criterion for speedy deletion just because they were leftover from a move. Steel1943  (talk) 08:30, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, the target article was at the redirect's title for less than an hour. Steel1943  (talk) 08:33, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * What a mightily problematic redirect this is. I decided to comment on this one because of pageviews, which could well have been caused by the brief popularity of an old link. If it spikes again, we'd be rather annoying by deleting this.  J947  † edits 08:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough as the sarcasm in the first sentence is apparent: "Problematic" as in "delete per WP:RDAB tends to supersede keep per R from move". But yeah, not sure where the page view noise is coming from for this redirect; I didn't bypass any links to this redirect, and it currently has no incoming links not related to this RFD. Steel1943  (talk) 09:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom. This existed as a page for 31 minutes before another user moved it to the proper place and it's not a useful redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:16, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:01, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete useless redirect. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Article moved, believe during NPP, although not reviewed. Fully support deletion. Believe these currently would be moved without leaving a redirect by a page mover via WP:PMRC.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  21:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Sabre(fencing)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.   BD2412  T 04:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Sabre(fencing)">Sabre(fencing) → Sabre (fencing) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Sabre (fencing), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 05:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete it wasn't even created from a move even though created in 2005.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:02, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above/WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 11:43, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Corporal(rank)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.   BD2412  T 04:28, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Corporal(rank)">Corporal(rank) → Corporal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Corporal (rank), targets the same page as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 05:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete it wasn't even created from a move even though created in 2007.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above/WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 11:43, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Duncvis
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per WP:CSD.  Complex / Rational  01:07, 28 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Duncvis → Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned anywhere in Wikipedia in article space. A Google search offers no clue as to what this even means. It doesn't even seem to be a typo of anything at mariowiki:Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga bestiary (and even if it were, content like that wouldn't belong in Wikipedia per WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE). 59.149.117.119 (talk) 04:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Delete : This is mentioned on the talk page for the Fawful article, but without context as to why. --Super Goku V (talk) 23:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)  (Amended to Speedy Delete per Randi Moth.  --Super Goku V (talk) on 01:59, 26 May 2023 (UTC))
 * Speedy delete as WP:G3 – The aforementioned IP on the talk page has created the redirect and vandalised the article, changing the character's name to "Duncvis" and adding Category:Disgraceful co-admin toadies that seem brainwahed in some sort of way to obey Alex Plank. This is blatant vandalism, nothing else. Randi Moth Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 17:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per G3. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
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Tamburo charleston
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 9%23Tamburo charleston

Yahoo! Inc.
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 2%23Yahoo! Inc.

Tim Galloway
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 2%23Tim Galloway

Numeric (data type)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 31%23Numeric (data type)