Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 27

May 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 27, 2023.

Wikipedia:M/R
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Desegregation
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Racial integration.  ✗  plicit  23:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Desegregation → Desegregation in the United States (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The United States is not the only place where desegregation has occurred (hence the page being moved), and this is gradually attracting incorrect bluelinks from editors who reasonably expect this to be about desegregation in general—see e.g. backlinks at Joram van Klaveren and Bermuda. I propose to bypass all U.S.-specific redirects and then retarget to Racial integration as an r from related term/r with possibilities. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 22:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:34, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:24, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom, including removing circular wikilink from the lead of the new target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:39, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've bypassed about 150 so far. It's slow going, though, because some should be bypassed, while others should be repiped to the more precise School integration in the United States. I'll keep at it. 457 left. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 05:15, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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Jawid Safi (Javad Safaee)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . I also went ahead and revision deleted the hijacked version of the article in an effort to help prevent future hijackings. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 19:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Jawid Safi (Javad Safaee) → Jawid Safi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Javad Safaee (Cricketer) → Jawid Safi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect exists because of a sockpuppet hijacking an article about Jawid Safi, a cricket player, and trying to turn it into an article about a Javad (or Jawid) Safaee, a singer. I think having this redirect from a bad-intentioned page move is just encouragement for future attempts from this sockfarm to turn this redirect page into an article. I don't think it is a likely search term either. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 19:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. A7V2 (talk) 08:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete both Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete first one as implausible. Keep second one as a valid R from unnecessary disambiguation, it is a valid search term. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:09, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * just to clarify, the second redirect uses a different name (or at least spelling) which as far as I can tell is not associated with the cricketer, which you may not have noticed (or do you feel it's a plausible alternate/misspelling?). A7V2 (talk) 23:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I hadn't. In that case, delete both. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:30, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
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Ice Dragon (Kirby)
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 * The result of the discussion was soft delete  . Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion .  ✗  plicit  23:30, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ice Dragon (Kirby)">Ice Dragon (Kirby) → List of Kirby characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
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Holy Nightmare Corporation
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Kirby characters.  ✗  plicit  23:30, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Holy Nightmare Corporation → List of Kirby characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:06, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Refine to List of Kirby characters which appears to be the same topic, as the Japanese translation is given as "Holy NightMare Co.". A7V2 (talk) 08:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Refine per A7V2. Term is in fact mentioned but in a different section. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:17, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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Moment (time)
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افغانستان.
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Patrol rifle
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . There was consensus that the current target is wrong, but there was no support for the alternate targets suggested. Participants have shown interest in a standalone article for this topic.  Jay  💬 07:56, 9 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Patrol rifle → Assault weapon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target. Google's definition of a patrol rifle is: A patrol rifle is an authorized weapon which is owned by the officer or by the Department and which is made available to properly trained and qualified officers as a supplemental resource to their duty handgun or shotgun. If I understand that correctly, a patrol rifle need not be an assault weapon and certainly, assault weapons are not necessarily patrol rifles. Pichpich (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:03, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree, but the problem is even bigger than that. "Assault weapon" is a political term generally referring to firearms often own-able by civilians. The military ones have full auto capability and aren't. "Patrol rifle" should have it's own small term-centric article.  Until then Assault rifle would be a less problematic/ better target. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 14:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Change target to Semi-automatic rifle - First, I fully agree that pointing this redirect to Assault weapon is simply wrong. But it does seem (even according to nom) that "patrol rifle" is at least an official designation in use by some organizations, I know I hear it used with regularity on "cop shows" on TV. Unlike Assault weapon (very commonly confused with Assault rifle, as anyone that follows those two articles knows well), which is not a specific classification of weapons issued to an individual (military or not). To be honest, I would rather see this turned into a real article (at least a stub), a 'la Service rifle or Battle rifle, but certainly no reason to delete. - Adolphus79 (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. An ambiguous adjective-noun combination. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete this is particularly a temporal redirect, it depends on era. A breech-loading short carbine needle-gun or a cavalry carbine version of a battle rifle, etc could also be meant by this -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 08:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete - it does seem that while it is a term in-use, its specific meaning varies between contexts to an extent that would be difficult to disambiguate directly. signed,Rosguill talk 19:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
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Warmage
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Complete Arcane. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:02, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Warmage → Character class (Dungeons & Dragons) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target. Also a recurring Final Fantasy class, so it's overly vague to be redirecting here regardless. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:08, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Complete Arcane, if necessary create a disambiguation page. BOZ (talk) 16:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Complete Arcane, if necessary create a disambiguation page, per BOZ. - jc37 21:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Complete Arcane per BOZ. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:41, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget or DAB per BOZ. Fieari (talk) 06:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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Alphabet mafia
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to LGBT community. signed,Rosguill talk 19:48, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Alphabet mafia → LGBT (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Some possible targets could be the same as Lavender Mafia or LGBT community. Currently, LGBT mentions alphabet soup (linguistics). When Demi Lovato came out as pansexual she used "alphabet mafia", so there are some news using this term as well (not sure if reliable as sources). Xdtp (talk) 19:21, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect where it can be mentioned and referenced. Otherwise redirect to Demi Lovato AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:33, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Convert to Wiktionary redirect to alphabet mafia. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 23:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with 's suggestion of using Wiktionary. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 03:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Delete. There is limited use of this term in Enwiki but no article is a suitable target. The wikt entry amounts to no more than an unsourced statement. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep but change where it redirects to. It is phrase gaining traction and reasonable people will use it.  The C of E God Save the King!  ( talk ) 20:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep but change it to redirect to LGBT community. It's a phrase I've seen gaining a lot of use (especially in online fora), however, it would be more appropriate to link to LGBT community as it's mainly used as a nickname by the community for itself rather than used to refer to the concept of LGBT as its own thing. SkyHawkB (talk) 20:48, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to LGBT community and tag it . Term is non-neutral but in use, plausible search term. And it does seem to refer to the community more than simply the concept of LGBTQ+etc. Fieari (talk) 06:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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Gobbo (character)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Gobbo. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

No evidence of notability, WP:RS WP:OR. Even the parent article Make Way for Noddy doesn't appear to bother linking to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.218.18.234 (talk) 14:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * <span id="Gobbo (character)">Gobbo (character) → Make Way for Noddy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Retarget to Gobbo as there are multiple characters named Gobbo, including Old Gobbo from The Merchant of Venice, the Noddy book series and television show. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:09, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gobbo as R from incomplete disambiguation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:43, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Brunswick three
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 18:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Brunswick three → Murder of Ahmaud Arbery (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not used in the target. Searching Google for "Brunswick three" finds nothing relating to the Arbery murder, so it's an unlikely search term. Pichpich (talk) 13:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 14:43, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:30, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I find a couple of uses to refer to the perpetrators on far-right websites:, . It doesn't seem to be used by reliable sources so hesitant to keep based on these sources alone. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:55, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep I came across the term and couldn't find its meaning at first, so I created the redirect to help other Wikipedia users in the same dilemma. It seems harmless to allow it to continue to exist. Eleuther (talk) 15:44, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep, tentatively. I can't find that this term is ambiguous after a reasonably thorough search. It's a bigoted alt-right term, yes, which does provoke a desire to delete. But then again, some naïve bloke who hears the term "Brunswick three" and wants to find out more would hopefully be drawn away from those perilous circles by this article contradicting them.  J947  † edits 01:30, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - it does seem that Brunswick Three is persistently used in white nationalist circles to refer to the murderers of Ahmaud Arbery. I saw use of "Brunswick Four" in a Canadian context but did not come across any other Brunswick Threes, so I don't see the ambiguity. We can tag it with R from non-neutral name and R from related topic signed,Rosguill talk 19:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
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Ben Carlton
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Ben Carlton → Benedict Cumberbatch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ben Carlton has nothing to do with Benedict Cumberbatch  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 06:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * This is selecting parts of Cumberbatch's full name and assuming he has used that as a stage name. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There's also a character named Ben Carlton in a film Prince of the City as listed in Michael Madsen filmography.  Searches also show an author/activist.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete as a useless nonsense entry. Softlavender (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:UCRN. Cumberbatch said he almost adopted the stage name over one year ago in an interview with James Corden. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Voorts – noting that UCRN only applies to article titles, not redirect titles.  J947  † edits 02:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. UCRN only applies to article titles, of course, but if all we have is a brief reference to a stage name that never got used, that's not enough to keep.  Nyttend (talk) 21:54, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Nyttend. He did not actually use this stage name so I can't see someone searching this looking for Cumberbatch when there are also non-notable things this can refer to. If kept I think mention would need to be added but I don't think it would be justified. A7V2 (talk) 08:26, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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Ice Blonde
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Feel free to create the redirect Ice blonde if you feel that's needed. Wiktionary has an entry: ice blonde. wbm1058 (talk) 15:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Ice Blonde → Flora Gionest-Roussy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ice Blonde has no relation to Flora Gionest-Roussy  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 04:46, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Redirect to Blond, if added to the entries. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per AngusWOOF. I'm also not clear that has a connection to Flora Gionest-Roussy &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 06:19, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Not mentioned at all in the retarget suggested above, and certainly not as a proper noun. Not mentioned at all in current target either. Softlavender (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: fr.wikipedia claims "Ice Blonde" as a stage name (at the page fr:Flora Gionest-Roussy), but doesn't have any sources to back that up, as far as I can tell. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 14:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Comment So I tried quite a few google searches, and not finding much (for example, there's someone named Fleur East, who apparently went "ice blonde" at some point). I did find some singer/group (hard to tell which) who has an album on several music sites: "Eyes Go Lightning", with the album titled "Ice Blonde". But didn't find anything tying that to Flora Gionest-Roussy. All I found for stage names for that singer were: Silver Catalano, and FLORAA. So, unless we have more info, I don't think we have verification for that redirect to point to that article. - jc37 21:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per User:AngusWOOF. Per Ice blonde, and a lot of google results:         . (A lot of magazines, hair care or salon sites, and blogs, among other things.) Apparently ice blonde is a slightly more blue-ish and/or silver-ish platinum blonde. I was going to try to add ice blonde to the line of platinum blonde examples, but I didn't want to mess up the heavy use of wiki sytax there : ) - jc37 03:00, 29 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - without a clear connection which can be added to the article, or a viable alternative target, this is just confusing to a would-be searcher. A7V2 (talk) 08:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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Wayne Carter
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Dylan and Eric
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 18:59, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Dylan and Eric → Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Way too ambiguous. Do you know how many Dylans and Erics exist? QuicoleJR (talk) 13:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I thought Bob DYLAN recorded with ERIC Clapton. WWGB (talk) 13:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's ambiguous, sure, but this would be the primary topic for the pairing of these two names. Can you provide evidence of another notable "Dylan and Eric" duo? For example, Bob Dylan and Eric Clapton do not have a joint bio (and I doubt someone would search this way with a combination of one first name + one last name). -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:01, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep more known as Eric and Dylan but searches generally point to the same duo. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
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Melbourne, Australia.
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 3%23Melbourne, Australia.

Yann Gonzalez
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Yann Gonzalez → M83 (band) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Family member of article subject" redirect for a person who's too notable in his own right to be buried that way. Filmmaker Yann Gonzalez is indeed the brother of M83's Anthony Gonzalez, per -- but with multiple film award wins (including two at Cannes) and two notable feature films (You and the Night, Knife+Heart) under his belt, he has more than enough notability in his own right to merit his own standalone WP:BLP instead of just being a redirect to his younger brother. So this should be deleted to facilitate the creation of an actual article; the fact that it's a redirect, and therefore a blue link in the articles that are already linking to it, is almost certainly the reason it isn't already a real article. Bearcat (talk) 05:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons given by the nom (WP:REDYES, WP:RFD), but also I don't think the one passing mention "and his brother Yann" justifies a redirect anyway. A7V2 (talk) 08:41, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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Cult scale
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 4%23Cult scale

Lone Star Lake (Texas)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 3%23Lone Star Lake (Texas)

Dark Mind
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  as drafted by AngusWOOF. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 01:15, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Dark Mind → List of Kirby characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No longer mentioned in the target. A generic term too, as this term is mentioned in List of Kamen Rider Ghost characters and Kirby & the Amazing Mirror. Could potentially be redirected to Dark Mind, Dark Heart too. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 16:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Retarget or disambiguate? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kirby & the Amazing Mirror, where it's actually mentioned. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per QuicoleJR. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate for Kamen Rider Ghost, Kirby, Dark Minds television series, Darkmind album, and Dark Mind, Dark Heart. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Add see also for The Darkest Minds (book series) and The Darkest Minds film AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:26, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * created dab page in the redirect AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 23:47, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambiguate per AngusWOOF. Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * See WP:SMALLDETAILS, none of these are the same name so they don't need to be disambiguated. Disambiguation pages are not a search index. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:45, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * SMALLDETAILS doesn't mean that minor typographical differences are always going to be sufficient. We have to be able to reasonably assume that the redirect target is actually the article users are searching for and use hatnotes to lead users to other potential targets. Given that all of the potential entries on the DAB page don't seem to be particularly prominent, I'm not sure we would be serving readers best by sending them to a video game article's plot section where "Dark Mind" is mentioned once. With so many similarly titled topics, using hatnotes would be clunky. A DAB page would work fine and would largely fit within the suggestions at WP:DABCOMBINE. Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:03, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambig per the drafted dab. Jay  💬 16:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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Fuxk
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:36, 18 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Fuxk → Fuck (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * F u c k → Fuck (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Shxt → Shit (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Fxck → Fuck (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently created but don't quite meet the WP:R3 CSD criteria. We do not need every possible bowdlerization of fuck and shit. Given that these are not listed on the target pages, I see little point in keeping them. Note also being discussed further down the page Primefac (talk) 08:01, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Delete unlikely search terms or typos Dronebogus (talk) 13:19, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Pichpich (talk) 21:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, Redirects are cheap. Q𝟤𝟪 06:29, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete F x3. These terms aren't common, and these redirects aren't particularly helpful especially since they redirect to the obvious target of Fuck. Delete Shxt preferably, or retarget to Shit. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , my apologies, I messed up the multi-RFD copy/paste, shxt does redirect to shit. Primefac (talk) 07:12, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep the spaced out version, as it can be seen as a letter by letter spelled out spoken out loud version. no opinion on the X-ed out versions -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 08:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep F u c k as a seemingly plausible search term. I'm neutral on whether or not to delete the others, but I would insist on unrefining the targets of the two fuck ones from Fuck to just Fuck since they are not mentioned in that section so we would be interpreting them as search terms for the whole article. A7V2 (talk) 02:40, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep all. Due to the ubiquity of the two target words, a wide variety of bowdlerizations are employed, and all of those bowdlerizations are plausible search terms. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 22:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep all - Unambiguous redirects, potentially useful, and WP:CHEAP applies. Can definitely see kids typing any or all of these into the search bar.  I can also see ESL/EFL students coming across a bowdlerization and not knowing what it means... wikipedia is a useful tool for them. Fieari (talk) 06:36, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep all per Tamzin and Fieari, I think Shxt and F u c k are more of a stretch than the other two, which are indeed quite common in my experience, and I can't think of another word that Shxt is a plausible typo for, noting x's position on the keyboard (not a likely accidental click for any other letter that could go there) and in the word (there are very few words 1-char distance away from shxt, no matter which letter you swap--to wit sext, shut, shat, shot, but none of those swaps make sense as a keyboard typo other than maybe "shat", which is just the past tense form of "shit".) signed,Rosguill talk 19:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * "Shxt" could also be "shot" or "shut". Steel1943  (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all: delete the ones with Xs as ambiguous ("shxt" could be shot and shut, "fxck" could be feck, fack, fick and fock, "fuxk" could be fulk and funk), delete the one with spaces as unlikely. Steel1943  (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep all as helpful. Not ambiguous because there's no reason any significant proportion of readers would censor terms like shut and fulk, and the non-swearwords are also much less likely to be searched in general.  J947  † edits 05:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
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Fukc
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 10:17, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Fukc → Fuck (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It's a four-letter word - how can someone really misspell that? Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 06:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * More likely as a typo. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 06:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Delete we do not need redirects for every possible typographical error. We mus assume some minimal level of competence in our users. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 06:49, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have to admit, I find it incredibly funny that in the comment above a four-letter word is indeed misspelled (typo'd).  J947  † edits 07:42, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, harmless typo redirect. Also a euphemism, per Urban Dictionary.  J947  † edits 07:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Noting that there are a handful of other recent creations that I have nominated further up the page. Primefac (talk) 08:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Also opining to delete, obviously, based on those as well. Primefac (talk) 07:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep reasonable typo Dronebogus (talk) 13:17, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not common, and the redirect is not helpful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:22, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep transposition errors are a common form of typo -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 08:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep A typo like this is a believable typo. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's not only a typo, and a plausible typo at that, but it's also a deliberate bowdlerization in some communities. Either case would be sufficient for me to !vote keep, but in this case it's both, so definitely keep. WP:CHEAP also applies. Fieari (talk) 06:37, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Fieari. signed,Rosguill talk 19:34, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Fieari. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 06:20, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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