Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 8

May 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 8, 2023.

I told you long ago on the road
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  Consensus that this is an R from lyric keep. (non-admin closure) estar8806 (talk) ★ 00:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I told you long ago on the road → Industry Baby (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

First line of song, improbable search term ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep – It being an R from lyric per above makes it a probable search term by people who either don’t know or don’t remember the name of the song while still knowing how it opens. Randi Moth TalkContribs 08:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak keep, it is a plausible, even if not especially likely, search term for someone who doesn't know the name of the song, which is a reason we have R from lyrics in the first place. No significant downside to keeping this around; net positive. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 01:31, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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Meru Prastara
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 11:25, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Meru Prastara → Pascal's triangle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target section (or anywhere else in the target article). Pichpich (talk) 22:59, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * This used to be mentioned, but editing over the last few months has removed a great deal of material related to India from the history section. It think it is likely that at some point some of that material will be restored.  --JBL (talk) 23:42, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Soft delete, allowing recreation if that happens. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Soft delete, agree with Pppery, and per explanation by JBL. Possibly confusing at present, but potentially helpful if the history section is expanded in the future. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 01:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment: I agree with (JBL) above. - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 07:03, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hell legion
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 19%23Hell legion

Akiki Nyabongo/Bibliography
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 11:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Akiki Nyabongo/Bibliography → Akiki Nyabongo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Our further reading sections are not typically accessed through this kind of redirect so it makes "Akiki Nyabongo/Bibliography" a very unlikely search term. Pichpich (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep or retain in another form for attribution.  J947  † edits 00:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Citations aren't copyrightable, so there's no need for that. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yup, quite right. Thanks. Comment voided.  J947  † edits 03:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This was a separate page, created by Deborahw20 (a student editor who also created Akiki Nyabongo), until MPGuy2824 merged it into the article with the summary "copied contents to that section". It looks like most if not all of the entries are redundant with the references used in the article, and I suspect it was originally created to aid in writing the article or perhaps to satisfy a course requirement. Given it's redundant copying it into the article was probably unnecessary; would likely have been better to just move it to user space. That said, it's probably safe to delete the redirect (per Pppery). – Scyrme (talk) 01:27, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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Russell Fritz
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 19%23Russell Fritz

Inmates
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Prisoner. New DAB was created by Shhhnotsoloud at Inmate (disambiguation) as requested by nom. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:06, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Inmates → The Inmates (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I suggest retargetting to prisoner and creating Inmate (disambiguation) for the various other things called "inmate" or "inmates" (The Inmate, Operation Inmate, Inmates (The Walking Dead), The Inmates). gnu 57 21:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Support retargeting and add a dab PalauanReich🗣️ 21:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Pichpich (talk) 22:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * support retarget and dab -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:19, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support retarget and dab. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget and disambiguate as suggested. Suprising it hasn't already been done. Inmate has been a redirect to Prisoner since 2009; the plural should go to the same destination. In-fact, the plural originally did back in 2005, but was changed in 2009 by an unregistered user; should be restored to its original destination. – Scyrme (talk) 19:39, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget and disambiguate per nom -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 07:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support and create DAB with either targeting Prisoner or the DAB. Prisoner has 1,886 views compared with only 389[|The_Inmates] for the band. Most links appear to be the the generic meaning which is also likely primary by long-term significance.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. I have created new disambiguation page Inmate (disambiguation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:06, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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Swine Kampf
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of SuperMansion characters. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 06:10, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Swine Kampf → David Cameron (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - Implausible search term. Estar8806 (talk) 21:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Call Me Dave (or Piggate), as mention of the relevant scandal has been excised from the Cameron article. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:23, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ridiculous. Please don't use redirects to play at politics on Wikipedia. Bishonen &#124; tålk 21:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC).
 * Retarget to List of SuperMansion characters &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Retarget to PalauanReich🗣️ 21:59, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of SuperMansion characters as above. Whether that applies to folks besides the character can be detailed in impact or legacy. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:13, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of SuperMansion characters As plausible target. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:22, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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Librium Liz
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Librium Liz → Liz Truss (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Delete - One source used this name in one article I can find. That hardly qualifies it as a redirect. And, I can't help but wonder if this would be a violation of WP:NPOV? If it is speedy delete may be a better option. Estar8806 (talk) 21:11, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Please don't use redirects to play at politics on Wikipedia. Bishonen &#124; tålk 21:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC).
 * Weak redirect to List of nicknames of prime ministers of the United Kingdom. If only the Guardian editorial used it, and the others are anti-Truss websites/articles,  then it should be deleted.  AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:17, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. No mention. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:08, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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Turks in Luxembourg
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Turkish diaspora. (non-admin closure) feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 08:20, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Turks in Luxembourg → Turkish people (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention in the target article. Pelmeen10 (talk) 07:40, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:27, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:37, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to Islam in Luxembourg which mentions 487 Muslim Turks . Jay  💬 08:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * So Turk is a synonym for Muslim now? Dronebogus (talk) 00:13, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hence "weak". But now that you have brought it up, per Turkish people Most ethnic Turkish people are either practicing or non-practicing Muslims, per Turkish people Turkish Jews, Christians, and Alevis are not considered Turks by some., and Since the 1960s, "Turkish" was even seen as synonymous with "Muslim" in countries like Germany..., the quotes notwithstanding. I don't know why Germany is brought into context in the article, but Luxembourg borders it, and all this is good enough in a redirect discussion for me. Jay  💬 21:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Strikes me as prejudiced no true Scotsman-ism, but this is kind of a digression already. Dronebogus (talk) 22:59, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Continuing on the digression... thanks for that article! Isn't no true Scotsmanism already a result of prejudice? I had no knowledge on the Turkey-Muslim synonymity, but the question made me look it up. I still have no opinion, but what I have are selectively quoted lines from the current target! Jay  💬 14:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * In English (and probably other European languages), "Turk" has commonly been used as a synonym for "Muslim" since the Elizabethan era. The usage is metonymic: back then, the Ottoman empire (whose dominant ethnicity was Turkish) controlled almost the entire Muslim world as Europeans knew it. The usage outlived that reality, in part because Turkey did continue to be the only Muslim country of great relevance to European affairs for several centuries. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:39, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Struck off earlier vote in preference of the diaspora retarget per Uanfala. Jay  💬 13:16, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom., there is no good retarget. Veverve (talk) 14:27, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete random intersection of no obvious significance. And of course it could also just be a redirect to Luxembourg, so the targeting is arbitrary as well. Dronebogus (talk) 00:13, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: For consideration of the recently-created alternate target candidates. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:44, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to Demographics of Luxembourg. The map there includes Turkey. 2A02:1810:BCA9:3A00:1485:9663:50E3:704C (talk) 11:14, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have created a Turkish diaspora (but I don't know if it'll stay). The section is at least bigger than Portugal, which is a two-liner. Jay  💬 14:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the newly added Turkish diaspora as the obvious solution. I don't see why that section would not survive: the article already has sections (many of them shorter) even for countries that are smaller than Luxembourg. And I'm assuming that readers aren't going to search for "Turks" here expecting to find results relevant to the long outdated use of the term. 10:58, 22 April 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uanfala (talk • contribs)
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 * Retarget to Turkish diaspora * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Turkish diaspora, good work Jay! I agree with Uanfala on everything they said. That section is viable and hopefully will expand in the future. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 22:43, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Old Bible
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 18%23Old Bible

Reference desk/Miscellaneous
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Reference desk/Miscellaneous">Reference desk/Miscellaneous → Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As prod-ed earlier: Some general consensus that CNRs to WP areas shouldn't be allowed, so anyone who feels REALLY strongly about it can contest this if they want. Otherwise it's probably not wise to have it, per the reasons at Cross-namespace redirects. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 18:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Recently created, serves little purpose as a CNR. -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 18:55, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete This is more complicated than the nomination makes it out to be - the reference desk is by itself a reasonable target for a cross-namespace redirect from mainspace, but anyone who knows Wikipedia's subpage titling format is likely to also know Wikipedia's namespace titling format, so, unlike Miscellaneous reference desk (which I created), this is not a plausible search. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * What Pppery said. But naturally I emerge on the other side, at weak keep – I'm not sold that this is a completely implausible search term.  J947  † edits 21:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete since Reference desk exists and is an article ... which means that readers could look up the redirect expecting it to be related to the subject of the article, which it is not. Steel1943  (talk) 07:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete unnecessary cross-namespace redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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Lists of Indonesian villages
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 19%23Lists of Indonesian villages

February 6 earthquake
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 16%23February 6 earthquake

Kloreen
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 16%23Kloreen

Bungee bus
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 19%23Bungee bus

HIM (Minecraft)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="HIM (Minecraft)">HIM (Minecraft) → Steve (Minecraft) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Very vague. Could refer to any "HIM" in Minecraft. Even if there is proof that Herobrine is primary topic, no reliable sources actually mentions this supposed alternative name for Herobrine. <b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>Talk<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">Contribs 15:41, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Not a reliably sourced and supported alternative name for Herobrine, and there is nothing else in Minecraft that could be conceivably referred to as "HIM".
 * The Night Watch    (talk)   18:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark and Edinburgh
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:55, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark and Edinburgh → Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - Unlikely search term. Philip’s time as a Prince of Greece and Denmark and Duke of Edinburgh (not Prince of Edinburgh) were separate. In any case, he was never called “Prince Philippos” after he renounced his titles relating to Greece and Denmark. Estar8806 (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Impractical. Unused. DrKay (talk) 14:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete It is both incorrect and a very unlikely search term. Not used in any sources. Keivan.f  Talk 18:24, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Incorrect and anachronistic.98.228.137.44 (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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Monochromium
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:55, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Monochromium → monochrome (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Monochromium is a song, not a synonym for monochrome. I have no opinion on its notability, but the current redirect is wrong. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 13:17, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't think the song has a mention on Wikipedia; I wasn't able to find one. Searching on Google, it seems the band is called "Glass Remnant" but I don't think they have an article either. Neither the song nor monochrome seem to be the primary topic for this term in English. Virtually all results on Google Scholar and Google Books are for Chromium compounds. – Scyrme (talk) 13:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: no plausible target page currently in Wikipedia. Just possibly target Chromium compounds, but no mention there yet.  Nothing about the band in Wikipedia, so whatever we decide, redirecting to that is not an option.  The current target is grammatically incorrect and implausible as a search term expecting "black-and-white".  Lithopsian (talk) 14:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Pichpich (talk) 22:43, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. No mention anywhere in Enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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Alejandro Nogués Acuňa
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 16:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Alejandro Nogués Acuňa">Alejandro Nogués Acuňa → Alejandro Nogués Acuña (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The person's surname is Acuña, with a tilde in the n. 109.12.6.224 (talk) 12:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete : Keep: Oddly I have found that ň in Slovak and Czech can make a sound similar to ñ in Spanish. Having said that, this is still rather unlikely as it uses a Spanish diacritic combined with a Slovak or Czech spelling. Weak deletion as opposed to regular deletion as the sound can be similar Keep because it was at this location for 3 years. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 16:42, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep – .  J947  † edits 20:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I missed that it was at the current redirect for 3 years somehow. Changed my vote to keep. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 19:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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2023 Monaco ePrix
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 21%232023 Monaco ePrix

Scottish Trans
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 16%23Scottish Trans

List of football clubs in Wales
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 * The result of the discussion was revert the redirect move.  .  Jay  💬 12:49, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * List of football clubs in Wales → List of men's football clubs in Wales (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't give sufficient redirect-ion to women's clubs, so wondering if a better redirect target might be available? Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 23:31, 30 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Multiple suggestions, but no clear outcome yet… Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment I would suggest DABing, but we don't currently have a list of women's football clubs. Should one be created? The redirect can't stay as-is IMO. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:15, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose Better solution would be to move the men's football club list to this redirect and include a section on Women's clubs. --Trödel 18:46, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That seems reasonable to me. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Revert move w/ redirect per Trödel and Presidentman. Up until 29 January 2023, List of football clubs in Wales actually the big list we now have at List of men's football clubs in Wales, with, unfortunately, no women's clubs. I agree it would be better to include any women's clubs (I presume there  some, and that we know of them) on an all-inclusive List of football clubs in Wales, to which end the January rename should be reverted. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 06:54, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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Bridges Over Borders
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 16:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Bridges Over Borders → Spoons (band) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article was redirected per WP:NALBUM as it did not contain any references or sources for more than five years when the maintenance tag was added. I could not seem to find any sources covering on the album itself, so I think it is looking closer for the article to face deletion. HorrorLover555 (talk) 00:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: To delete, or not to delete… Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:59, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Do not delete. This should either be kept as a mentioned r from album or reverted to an article. I was able to quickly find an AllMusic review, but don't have to investigate further right now. If other sources are found, the article should be reinstated. - Eureka Lott 23:21, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Keep per obviousness. The phrase is mention 5 times in the article, and other mentions in Enwiki are all about the song or album. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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Vikværsk
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget Vikvaersk to Norwegian dialects, delete Wickish  . signed,Rosguill talk 00:57, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Vikværsk">Vikværsk → Norwegian language (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Vikvaersk → Norwegian language (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wickish → Norwegian language (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. Briefly listed at Norwegian dialects (not "Wickish", however). 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:02, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to Norwegian dialects. The 1st two at the very least, which are mentioned there... Wickish I can't find any information about in a brief google search. If no one can find anything on it, go ahead and Delete that one, but if confirmation can be found that it exists, add it the the dialects page and retarget it there too. Fieari (talk) 05:13, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - Wickish was an unreferenced article until it was blanked and redirected by Onel5969. The article had previously been at the title Vikværsk until Karamellpudding1999 moved the page giving the reason "official English name of the dialect". – Scyrme (talk) 07:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Additionally, searching "Wickish" I was only able to find a family name and a dialectal English word, not a Norwegian dialect by that name. I suspect the editor attempted to calque the Norwegian term. (As a calque it's actually incomplete since it doesn't include the -vær element. A complete calque would be Wickerish, with "Wicker" being a demonym. I wouldn't suggest creating a redirect for that though.) – Scyrme (talk) 08:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Retarget 1 and 2 per Fieari, Delete 3 per Fieari and Scyrme Jay  💬 12:58, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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Chittem
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Gran Matador Brandy
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11 Piscis Austrini
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Daniel Shulman
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Dan Shulman. signed,Rosguill talk 00:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Daniel Shulman → Garbage (band) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Currently a primary redirect to a non-notable musician; a better target is sportscaster Dan Shulman. 162 etc. (talk) 16:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Compassionate727 (T·C) 22:15, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This was an article for a long time, and it ended up as a redirect after the freshly concluded Articles for deletion/Daniel Shulman (2nd nomination). I think the redirect should be moved to Daniel Shulman (musician), to preserve its history, and Daniel Shulman (disambiguation) moved to the base title. I don't see an obvious primary topic for the term. – Uanfala (talk) 20:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Disambiguate on a disambiguation page at Daniel Shulman if there's no primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:57, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Daniel Shulman (disambiguation) has been there all along. Seems like we can close this, no? 162 etc. (talk) 14:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, skim-read that.  J947  † edits 06:51, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Dan Shulman - it seems counterproductive to create a lot of navigational machinery for a what amounts to a one-sentence list entry in an article; anyone looking for the musician will only see "Someone named Daniel Shulman was a member of this band", and that exact information could be conveyed just as easily by a hatnote. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Pppery. Rewrite Daniel Shulman (disambiguation) with the primary mention. Jay  💬 13:38, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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Gregory R. Smith
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . While coverage that could be used to support readding him to the list was provided, editors equivocated on whether such coverage is truly appropriate. No prejudice to recreation if relevant content is added to the target. signed,Rosguill talk 00:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Gregory R. Smith → List of child prodigies (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gregory Robert Smith → List of child prodigies (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in redirect target since 2019, so these redirects should be deleted. I made the former page from an article into a redirect in 2007 after a no-consensus AFD. At its talk page, the article creator said in 2007 that he was OK with the article's deletion. I was reminded of this situation by this village pump policy thread. Graham 87 08:39, 28 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: For further opinions over whether the article content should be procedurally restored. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J947  † edits 07:31, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete both, as our redirects shouldn't lead the reader to an empty marsh where there's nothing to see. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 13:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * If the subject is notable, then the pre-BLAR content may be restored and enhanced. There was no consensus for deletion even in 2007. The subject will be in his 30s now and the arguments about privacy may have changed. Jondel was not really the article creator, but one among multiple authors of the article. If the subject is not notable, delete. I don't believe content at the page history was merged to any article, so there won't be a need to retain it. Jay  💬 14:37, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Jondel was *indeed* the article creator in this case; the edit that's listed as being from January 2003 has an incorrect date/timestamp due to a clock reset (see T4219 and musings on this bug in my userspace). Graham 87 07:57, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Interesting bug! In any case, being the creator and substantial contributor has benefits when it comes to speedy deletion. Here, there were other authors, hence the opinion as article creator is only symbolic. And it was a long time ago. Jay  💬 08:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Struck off the delete. One of the links by casualdejekyll is from 2016, so I'll assume there is still interest about the subject, and he can be added back to the target. Jay  💬 13:53, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Eh, there's probably enough coverage to justify re-adding him to the list, but if he isn't added to the list then it makes sense to delete. Privacy concerns are still probably valid - he's definitely a relatively unknown, non-public figure.  casualdejekyll  20:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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Urgrund
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Support for deletion over soft-redirection enjoys a slight numerical and argumentative advantage. signed,Rosguill talk 00:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Urgrund → Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect used to be a disambiguation page (an albeit ineffective one) to which Urgrund (disambiguation) redirected. Enwiki has no substantive explanation of Urgrund (and no mention at the current target) so a Wiktionary redirect may be appropriate here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:54, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you want to bundle Urgrund (disambiguation) here, or tag it as a G14? Jay  💬 05:37, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks I'll G14 it if necessary. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:23, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There is Urground too. The same outcome should apply if the outcome is not a delete. Jay  💬 06:52, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The dab page (in existence 2016–2023) used to have entries for Absolute (philosophy) and for Urgrund (comics) (an article about a fictional planet in a DC comics universe that got deleted after a prod). Strangely, de:Urgrund is simply an article about an Australian black metal band. – Uanfala (talk) 21:26, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * I'm an editor at the Hegel article, and I would recommend deleting this. Hegel's philosophy of absolute knowing is not, per the categories of his own logic, a grounding relation. This redirect is only going to confuse people, whatever it is they might be looking for. Patrick J. Welsh (talk) 22:48, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to Wiktionary per the above. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:32, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Either delete or soft redirect to urgrund on the Wiktionary, as per above. Veverve (talk) 15:18, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. No incoming links, no mention on enwiki, oppose soft redirect per WP:SSRT. Jay  💬 06:52, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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Taiwan Semiconductor
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Don't worry about this until the draft is accepted. (non-admin closure)  J947  † edits 00:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Taiwan Semiconductor → TSMC (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - TSMC or TSM is comment terms of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company in resource or news, and Taiwan Semiconductor is another company called "Taiwan Semiconductor Company Limited" founded earlier than TSMC. KevinLu TSC (talk) 07:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment The taiwansemi.com company's article is at Draft:Taiwan Semiconductor AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. When the draft is accepted, this may be disambiguated. Jay  💬 10:22, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
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Ben Carlton
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Ice Blonde
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Maria Mironova (Q4296110)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  12:38, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Maria Mironova (Q4296110)">Maria Mironova (Q4296110) → Maria Vladimirovna Mironova (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirects with Wikidata identifiers are not useful per several prior discussions. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:52, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per Pppery. BorgQueen (talk) 02:57, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to delete redirects in this form en masse, but it seems that these aid odd bot-generated links per WhatLinksHere. Keep until fixed.  J947  † edits 06:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Most of the links appear to be from wikiproject article alerts and such, not anything major, so I would recommend deletion (Q18411409). Duckmather (talk) 02:15, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, assuming wikidata is corrected. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:11, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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English Nation
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Alexandrina Victoria von Wettin, nee Hanover
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A. F. A. George
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:55, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * A. F. A. George → George VI (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete - No idea where this would've come from. A quick search of this redirect returns nothing relating to George VI. Implausible & unlikely search term. Estar8806 (talk) 01:15, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * "A. F. A." stands for "Albert Frederick Arthur" Globg (talk) 01:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Unknown search term. DrKay (talk) 04:55, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Not used in any books or research papers. AngusW🐶🐶F  ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete He has never been referred to as such. It is an unlikely search term and is not used in any sources. Keivan.f  Talk 18:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. For one thing, George wasn't his surname.98.228.137.44 (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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