Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 18

September 18
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 18, 2023.

Amtryptamine
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 29%23Amtryptamine

Pax Russica
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 27%23Pax Russica

Chicken Poutine
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Poutine. Refined current target. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 06:55, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Chicken Poutine → Poutine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unhelpful and misleading – target gives no information about "chicken poutine". Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 12:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:46, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - while it's probably harmless, it's also going to be disappointing for a reader expecting to find information about "chicken poutine", which is just poutine with chicken on it, not a noteworthy variation. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Refine to Poutine. There's not that much content there, but chicken is certainly mentioned, and if chicken poutine is not a noteworthy variation, then WP:R does not apply. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 04:39, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Poutine per IP. Reasonable search term, best result available. - Darker Dreams (talk) 05:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Poutine per above. RedPanda25 19:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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Trymene
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 06:01, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Trymene → Α-Methyltryptamine (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not an alternative name for the target, not mentioned anywhere on enwiki. Delete. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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TI-001
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 27%23TI-001

WikiProject Celts
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 06:03, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * WikiProject Celts → Wikipedia:WikiProject Celts (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not likely to be of use to general readers of Wikipedia. <span style="font-family:monospace,Courier;color:#414245">#prodraxis connect 21:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Cross namespace redirect to a mostly inactive project which is confusing and unhelpful. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 August 6. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:36, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sirfurboy and Pppery, a Wikipedia link not supposed to be in mainspace.  Dank Jae  18:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per the precedent RfD in 2016: unnecessary WP:CNR to WikiProject. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:27, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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Danusia Samal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 06:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Danusia Samal → Ghost in the Shell (2017 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is unhelpful for anyone looking up information about Samal, as her name is included only once as part of the cast list. Samal has since starred in the The Great and worked as a writer for Gangs of London and the upcoming Bodies. It's possible she'll have her own article in the future, but this isn't a particularly helpful placeholder in the meantime. Sock  ( tock talk)  15:01, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment: I’m not nearly as familiar with notability guidelines as I’d like to be, but if there’s no particularly great target for a redirect, & Danusia Samal passes WP:NACTOR, it’s possible the redirect could be converted to a stub article to avoid deletion. If you look at the last three months, the redirect has been getting pageviews, which shows that it is being used. (Obviously, though, pageviews on their own don’t solve the problem of finding an appropriate target.) Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow 20:23, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per reason 10: "the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." Tevildo (talk) 06:55, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFD/WP:REDYES or create an article over the redirect if possible. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:30, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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Redirects related to the upcoming James Bond film produced by Eon Productions
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 18:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Bond 26 → Production of the James Bond films (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * James Bond 26 → Production of the James Bond films (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Please delete these redirects. The target section for these redirects no longer exists in their target article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.209.40.250 (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Less bureaucracy, please. I see no reason to delete, and no better redirect candidate. Just leave it alone until the next film is announced. cagliost (talk) 15:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Refine to Production of the James Bond films. I have restored a version of the section these used to target before an unsourced addition led to its complete removal. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - This has been restored. 2607:FEA8:761F:4600:8842:12C2:18AE:5321 (talk) 00:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: I think that looking for a new actor to play James Bond is a relatively strong sign there will be a 26th Bond movie, but it's not even in pre-production yet it seems, so I think the redirects are just slightly leaning too WP:CRYSTAL for me. Support recreation upon any further confirmation of a 26th Bond film. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 01:09, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep (though I have reinstated the deletion tags after premature removal) - I think it's likely that a user may search for these looking to see what the status of any forthcoming film was likely to be. In my opinion this does not contravene CRYSTAL, as there is a sourced reference in the target section. — Voice of Clam (talk) 09:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep is mentioned in the target article and is a plausible search term. The fact the film hasn't entered pre-production doesn't mean it's inappropriate for Wikipedia, and even if the Bond film series were to be cancelled there would undoubtedly be quite a bit of coverage of that in one of the relevant articles. It is common practice to include information about potential future franchise films in the article about the franchise.  Hut 8.5  18:01, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, as the section now exists again and will presumably become more developed over time as more information is published about the subject. Even if the film doesn’t make it to production, I can plausibly see a section in an article that describes how the 26th Bond film wasn’t created - which I feel would also be a plausible target for this redirect (for people wanting to find out what happened to the presumed upcoming film). Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow 11:57, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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Knallhatten
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 06:25, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Knallhatten → Li'l Abner (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Swedish translation of work; not present in article. ArcticSeeress (talk) 14:06, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Mentioned once in passing at 91:an, but that's too skimpy to warrant a redirect, and nowhere else. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pppery. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:34, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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LGBT activists
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of LGBT rights activists. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 18:55, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * LGBT activists → LGBT movements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I’m nominating this redirect separately than those under as it’s the only one I could find that used the plural activists instead of the singular activist. I’m taking it to RfD along with the activist-singular redirects (1) for consistency, and (2) as I believe, as it uses the plural form, List of LGBT rights activists could be a better target potentially. <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow 10:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * As I said below, I agree that List of LGBT rights activists is the most appropriate target. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 11:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Common target with the others, breaking one off for singular vs plural seems like it just creates potential confusion. Darker Dreams (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree with QuietHere - List of LGBT rights activists should be the target for all of these. SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:59, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ditto. – GnocchiFan (talk) 15:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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LGBT activist
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget all  to List of LGBT rights activists and keep those that already target there. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 18:53, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * LGBT activist → LGBT movements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * LGBTQ activist → LGBT movements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="LGBTQIA+ Activist">LGBTQIA+ Activist → LGBT movements (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * LGBT rights activist → List of LGBT rights activists (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * LGBTQ rights activist → List of LGBT rights activists (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These all seem (to me at least) like they should point to a common target. I’m therefore opening this RfD discussion to determine the best common target for these redirects. All the best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow 10:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * As the creator of, it is my opinion that List of LGBT rights activists is the most appropriate target for all of them because "activist" clearly denotes a person and so I would expect the term to lead me to a page specifically about people.
 * Also, per the RfD template's presence on it, it appears that is also part of this discussion and should be added to the list. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 11:01, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I wrote that last part before noticing the separate discussion above. Personally, I don't see the point in separating them; if it were the difference between "activist" and "activism" then it would make more sense, but in this case I think they're essentially performing the same task. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 11:03, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I also agree that List of LGBT rights activists is the best redirect. – GnocchiFan (talk) 15:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
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Война Слава
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:28, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Война Слава">Война Слава → Valley of Glory (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target and no mention on Russian-language Wikipedia. Search engines do not talk about the topic of the article when you search "Война Слава". ArcticSeeress (talk) 09:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: I don't really see the relevence here for this phrase to this target, and per research I came up with similar results as nom. Unsure if there's something I'm missing, but I can find no inherent connection. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 17:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete – It's not even correct grammatically, as both words are in the nominative case without a comma to separate subjects. Even adjusting to "Война славы" (war of glory) as likely intended, there's nothing in the search results that has its own Wikipedia article. Randi🦋Talk<sub style="margin-left:-20q;">Contribs 10:05, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: no good reason to have this redirect. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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Wikilove
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Wikipedia community. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:07, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Wikilove → Wikipedia:WikiLove (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Main to projectspace XNR - not likely to be used by general readers. <span style="font-family:monospace,Courier;color:#414245">#prodraxis connect 04:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment: this was previously (2016–2019) a redirect to Wikipedia community. Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user: A smart kitten <sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace">meow 10:31, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Not mentioned at Wikipedia community, I concur that the current target doesn't deserve a cross-namespace redirect. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned now. BD2412  T 00:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Still seems a bit too skimpy to warrant a redirect to me, but I'm striking my delete !vote and letting things take their course. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Wikipedia community. I have added the relevant content. Every Wikipedia user talk page now has a "Wikilove" tab at the top, and it would be surprising if there was not coverage in sources of this phenomenon. BD2412  T 00:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wikipedia community per BD2412's improvement of the target article. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:28, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep as a completely unambiguous redirect. I'd imagine there are many users who link to it in internal Wikipedia discussions, and very few people who unintentionally find it. Anyone who does, for example, see the term used in an off-wiki news site would probably learn more from seeing the project page than seeing the Wikipedia community article. RedPanda25 18:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget as standard with Wikipedia terms that we have articles that cover them.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wikipedia community per BD2412. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:43, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wikipedia community per BD2412: stops the WP:CNR issue. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 06:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wikipedia community per BD2412: OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) Questions? 03:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Wrong
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 27%23Wikipedia:Wrong