Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 5

September 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 5, 2023.

I-95 exit list
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 13%23I-95 exit list

Shutdown -r
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Shutdown (computing). Also creation of  targeting List of Mr. Robot episodes (non-admin closure) TartarTorte 23:17, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Shutdown -r → List of Mr. Robot episodes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Is the Mr. Robot episode really the primary topic for this title? Suggest retarget to Shutdown (computing). * Pppery * it has begun... 19:38, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Zero articles actually use this redirect, I'd say the easiest move (instead of an RFC) would have just been to redirect to Shutdown (computing) then recreate the initial redirect at Shutdown -r (Mr. Robot). -- Alex_ 21 TALK 21:02, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom Pppery; recreate a new redirect for the TV show per Alex -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 22:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:12, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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Busy-signal equivalent (HTTP)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 13%23Busy-signal equivalent (HTTP)

Html error codes
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  23:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Html error codes → List of HTTP status codes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

HTTP status codes have nothing to do with HTML. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Alternate name, apparently – see . Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 20:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Tag as R from incorrect name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 22:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. While they are indeed HTTP codes, referring to them as HTML codes is common (if technically incorrect). Some examples:  . Feel free to tag the redirect differently, but I don't think it should be deleted. Modest Genius talk 10:35, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: apparently plausible error per above. C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 01:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible error. Polyamorph (talk) 12:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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200 error
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  23:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * 200 error → List of HTTP status codes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

HTTP code 200 is "OK", which is not an error. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep status codes are frequently called error codes. They are usually processed with error handling subroutines -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 22:25, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - plausible error; unambiguous and points to the correct target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk &#124; edits) Feel free to ping me! 21:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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UuU
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 13%23UuU

Jan Kołodyński
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  as withdrawn It was right in the first sentence and I don't know how I missed it. (non-admin closure) <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Jan Kołodyński">Jan Kołodyński → Ivan Mazepa (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can find no connection either at the target article or in doing googling between Jan Kołodyński and Ivan Mazepa. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:30, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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Desperate (song)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Desperate. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 20:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * <span id="Desperate (song)">Desperate (song) → For Those Who Wait (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect to Desperate, due to no primary topic. 176.33.246.14 (talk) 04:27, 4 September 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Wasn't tagged. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:04, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Desperate per nom. Skynxnex (talk) 14:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Desperate per nom and per Skynxnex. There are multiple songs with this title, and no basis for determining that any one of them is the primary song. BD2412  T 14:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Desperate per nom and prev comments; tag with R from incomplete disambiguation. A smart kitten (talk) 16:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Desperate per above and no WP:PTOPIC. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * (The source page seems to be missing an xfd tag, by the way). Utopes (talk / cont) 17:30, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Desperate per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:12, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll reäffirm my retarget above. Skynxnex (talk) 01:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Desperate per those above. We don't have a standalone article for any song with this title, only redirects to articles, suggesting none of those songs have any claim to primarytopicness, so should target the list at the dab page and the reader can pick. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget but the edit history should probably be moved to Desperate (Fireflight song) as that redirect has no history while this one was an article.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:26, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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 * Noting post-close that the history swap proposed by was carried out after the close by . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Coach Lombardi
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 26%23Coach Lombardi

Coach Harbaugh
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:55, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Coach Harbaugh → Jim Harbaugh (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

May refer to multiple coaches, such as brothers Jim Harbaugh and John Harbaugh, or their father Jack Harbaugh. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 15:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Ambiguous, not useful. Jweiss11 (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as a title and name disambiguation page between Jim, John, and Jack. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:39, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per . « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:03, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A disambiguation has been drafted below the redirect. It turns out there are a few more than the nominator listed. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:24, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Tavix. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 23:03, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Tavix. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 12:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, criterion G5. Disambiguation is for topics with the same title, not lists of related topics, and this is an inappropriate title for an anthroponymy page. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Would you be in favor of the deletion of all pages in Category:Title and name disambiguation pages? Would you oppose a retarget to Harbaugh? -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:24, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. I'm mostly seeing formal professional, noble, and military titles in there, like Doctor Smith, Empress Dao, and General Agnew, titles that individuals hold by virtue of professional designation or military/noble rank. I don't think coaches are in that group - some coaches are commonly known as "Coach X" but not in the same way that all doctors are known as "Doctor Y". So if there are multiple people who are commonly known as "Coach Harbaugh", then yes, disambiguate. If our page is just a listing of people with the surname "Harbaugh" who are coaches but not widely known as "Coach Harbaugh", then the page fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY. In the latter case I think a redirect to Harbaugh would be appropriate - that page is already long enough that it could have a "sportspeople" section. As a side note I'm not sure why a series of titles like Coronation of King Charles are in that category - they're events, not titles-and-names. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. It sounds like our difference of opinion is that I would consider coaches to be included with the group of formal titles and you would (generally) not. I presume the inclusion of Coronation of King Charles is due to "King Charles" being a title and name, but would agree with you that they are a poor fit. Not that it makes a difference, but I'm a bit perplexed about using WP:NOTDIRECTORY to make your point. The disambiguation is solely including notable coaches, it would not be a complete listing of every coach with the name. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This was originally deleted under G5, upon which I requested an undeletion given the !dab votes, which was granted deferring to the RFD. See User talk:Garralaga. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  17:31, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't speedy, as what is being proposed is pretty much irrespective of the redirect's creation. As to the dab page, do we really want title-and-name pages for Coach XXXXX? Is this a common designation in the U.S.?  J947  † edits 10:06, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * On reflection, disambiguate as the views in this instance are far beyond what is required to justify a dab page.  J947  † edits 03:04, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Delete or disambiguate? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 17:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm in agreement with Ivanvector. This doesn't appear to be a title that is regarded as a proper noun referring to these persons, and we shouldn't set precedent that might lead to a proliferation of such pages. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate: As a Baltimoron, I was thinking of John, so dabbing is best here. C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 03:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Dabify as a -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 22:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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Coach Gruden
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:55, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Coach Gruden → Jon Gruden (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Could refer to multiple coaches, including brothers Jay Gruden and Jon Gruden. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 15:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Ambiguous, not useful. Jweiss11 (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as a Title and name disambiguation page between Jay and Jon. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:38, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A disambiguation has been drafted below the redirect. I also found a minor league ice hockey coach. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:06, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per . « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:02, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Tavix. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 23:02, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Dabify per Tavix -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Tavix. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 12:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, criterion G5. Disambiguation is for topics with the same title, not lists of related topics, and this is an inappropriate title for an anthroponymy page. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This was originally deleted under G5, upon which I requested an undeletion given the !dab votes, which was granted deferring to the RFD. See User talk:Garralaga. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  17:31, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't speedy, as what is being proposed is pretty much irrespective of the redirect's creation. As to the dab page, do we really want title-and-name pages for Coach XXXXX? Is this a common designation in the U.S.?  J947  † edits 10:06, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, sufficient referrent views.  J947  † edits 03:05, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Delete or disambiguate? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 17:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. As with Coach Harbaugh above, this doesn't appear to be a title that is regarded as a proper noun referring to these persons, and we shouldn't set precedent that might lead to a proliferation of such pages. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate: per my !vote at . C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 03:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Dabify as a -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 22:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
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Coromega
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:29, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Coromega → Omega-3 fatty acid (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Dietary supplement not mentioned at target or anywhere on enwiki. There is an unsourced stub in the article history that would be unlikely to survive Afd (nor should it be restored for deletion discussion purposes), so soft delete. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlastertalk 17:26, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. If restored, it would be a speedy G11. Jay  💬 15:43, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Chulapo
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 13%23Chulapo

Indiecore
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 13%23Indiecore

Daily labor
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 * The result of the discussion was closed until the move discussion sorts itself out  . (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 20:35, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Daily labor → Day labor (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete a similar concept that is not a synonym. Paid by daily rates does not equate to being day labour, though day labor is paid in that manner; labour peformed daily is not day labour either. -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 06:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy close - the title is the subject of a move dispute at the moment. Let that resolve and then renominate. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:19, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
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