Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 24

April 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 24, 2024.

Sucking peepee
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 6%23Sucking peepee

Helicopter dick
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  * Pppery * it has begun...  18:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Helicopter dick → Helicopter deck (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure this is a plausible typo (or what people would expect when searching this term, so it's worse than having nothing). Previously was discussed (and deleted) at RfD and no one suggested this target. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 23:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete - Clearly violates WP:LEAST... this is very much and obviously not what someone would be looking for when searching for this term, and I don't think we have the actual information that this term refers to, so... since we don't have it, delete it. (if someone finds the actual information on wikipedia or wiktionary, please change my !vote to redirect there instead, but I'm at work so I can't search this right now) Fieari (talk) 23:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: Implausible typo and is not what I'd expect if I were to, for whatever silly reason, search this term. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * WP:DAFTify per nom Okmrman (talk) 19:21, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Human male sexuality. - The redirect to helicopter deck is an unlikely typo. There's minimal study on this form of sexual gymnastics so there probably isn't enough content to keep it as a stub, though its a common phenomenon. Perhaps a physics paper will be published in the future to qualify for WP:RS.GobsPint (talk) 22:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I oppose retargeting without a mention, otherwise this is simply confusing to many. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTHOWTO. We don't have any information on this particular mating display. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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List of lists
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep  * Pppery * it has begun...  18:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * List of lists → List of lists of lists (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

From previous discussions (in 2013 and 2016), three pages have come up as potential valid redirect targets for this page, List of lists of lists, Contents/Lists, and Category:Lists.

The current target, List of lists of lists, is in the same namespace, but it's not a complete "list of lists" as not all lists on Wikipedia are listed in "Lists of X" articles, and it's a "list of lists of lists" rather than a direct "list of lists." Next, Contents/Lists has an approachable format and it's a "list of lists" rather than a "list of lists of lists," but it is also incomplete. And finally, Category:Lists is a complete "list of lists," but it's a category.

I propose that a disambiguation page be created containing these three pages as they all have their pros and cons, making none of them suitable as the sole redirect target. – Brandon XLF  (talk) 09:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep and hatnote the other two. Jay  💬 11:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep, local targets are preferred when feasible. I don't see the issue with the current target; it need not be complete. I don't think someone searching this is going to be misled or confused by where they end up. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Daniel Striped Tiger (band)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Daniel Striped Tiger (band) → Daniel Striped Tiger (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Target was redirected to a different subject per an AfD so is no longer about a band. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete but we could mention it at the target in which can I would favour keeping.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Netflix films no longer mentioned
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Auntie Claus (film) → List of Netflix original films (since 2024) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Empress (film)">Empress (film) → List of Netflix original films (since 2024) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Kid Alpha One → List of Netflix original films (since 2024) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The titles of these Netflix original films are no longer mentioned in their target. 2607:FEA8:761F:4600:301D:BAB0:803F:CEE (talk) 21:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Star Wars™
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 10:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Star Wars™">Star Wars™ → Star Wars (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

with the deletion of Peppa Pig TM, this probably also deserves a discussion in the same vain. Okmrman (talk) 19:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete no one is going to go out of their way to try and get the special characters for TM to search for that when Star Wars would have come up by then anyway. <b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b> <i style="color: Blue;">talk</i> 19:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete™ per Canterbury Tail, implausible search term. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 23:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete™ per this being Totally Bogus Dude™
 * also did you mean "vein"  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete™ per previous discussions.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete™. Useless. <b style="color: #005249;">Cleo Cooper</b> (talk) 03:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete™: Unless someone adds the TM character to keyboards any time soon. <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  18:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: impossible to write without knowledge of special characters, and also WP:SNOW by this point. Cambalachero (talk) 18:24, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * .Mon rep mteteled Steel1943  (talk) 23:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Eh…it looks fairly clear what the result is probably going to be at this point, but I’m not convinced that this redirect is problematic enough to warrant deletion. All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 10:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete™: Someone would need to copy-paste the trademark character from a Unicode website, which would be time-consuming. Oh, wait-  TWOrantula  TM (enter the web) 08:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Larissa Hodge
<span id="Larissa &quot;Bootz&quot; Aurora"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 6%23Larissa Hodge

Ductal
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 18:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Ductal → Lafarge (company) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Ductal is a product of Lafarge but isn't mentioned on the article at all. The redirect exists due to a 2015 deletion discussion of the article, I believe a redirect to duct would be better given ductal is the adjectivial form of duct. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Tagged with R with history. Jay  💬 12:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. Redirected via an AFD, no longer mentioned in the article ... it's time. Steel1943  (talk) 18:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Comedy Shorts Gamer (entertainer)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  and refine to new anchor. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Comedy Shorts Gamer (entertainer)">Comedy Shorts Gamer (entertainer) → KSI (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 04:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  06:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Any thoughts? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I just added mention. Brother of the subject - refine to the #Early life section. If kept, Comedy Shorts Gamer which is protected, may also be recreated as a redirect. Jay  💬 12:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment: The "added mention" Jay is referring to spells the subject as "ComedyShortsGamer" (no spaces). Stating this for editors to be able to find the mention, otherwise I have no opinion. Steel1943  (talk) 18:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - ComedyShortsGamer is now mentioned at the target, albeit briefly. Refine target to #ComedyShortsGamer, where I’ve added an anchor. I agree with Jay that the protected title Comedy Shorts Gamer can be recreated as a redirect if this is kept, as can ComedyShortsGamer & Comedyshortsgamer. All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 11:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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National culture
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * National culture → Nation state (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"National culture" is mentioned on the target page, but it isn't a subhead, and this seems to me to be a strange article to redirect this to. I'm not sure someone who searches for "national culture" will understand why they're on this page. I'm not excited about any of the alternatives I considered (Nationalism?), maybe someone here has a better idea? asilvering (talk) 03:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * National identity or the more abstract Imagined community? Not sure what someone searching for "National culture" would be looking for exactly, but these seem better than Nation-state. CMD (talk) 07:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Maybe Cultural nationalism? Traumnovelle (talk) 07:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment. I recommend searching the nation state page for the exact query "cultur". Try to read the portions where those terms appear. The relevant information is in there, but it's not collected as one topic. I would like to see this info collected somewhere on wikipedia. But for now, the best way/ best place on wikip to understand this broad topic is to understand modern nation-state nationalism broadly, which is also not a casual task. Ethnicity/ race, language, and religion (whether monistic or varied within the state), are main themes you'll encounter. Then you'll see what a national culture is in a given nation state. Education is also part of projects of national culture. skakEL 21:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete and defer to search results. We have multiple articles that would fit as targets for this as a keyword search, and that's what we have a search engine for. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ivanvector. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Technofascism and Techno-fascism
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 11%23Technofascism and Techno-fascism

F-Bomb (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fuck (2005 film).  ✗  plicit  14:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="F-Bomb (film)">F-Bomb (film) → Fuck (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) to be consistent with the The F-Bomb (film) redirect suggestion as per its RfD discussion. Jay  💬 05:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, WP:NOTCENSORED <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * How is NOTCENSORED an argument for the nomination or even for Delete? Jay  💬 16:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. No title matches exist. Steel1943  (talk) 18:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) per footnote [b]: ...alternatively referred to as Fuck: A Documentary and The F-Bomb: A Documentary. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. An R from short title of an alternative name specified in the article, with a valid parenthetical disambiguator (per Jay's comment under - the lead introduces the subject as a documentary film). All the best, &zwj;—&zwj;  a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 12:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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The F-Bomb (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fuck (2005 film).  ✗  plicit  01:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="The F-Bomb (film)">The F-Bomb (film) → Fuck (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) to be consistent with the The F-Bomb (documentary) redirect. And the lead does say it's a documentary film. Jay  💬 04:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * "The F-Bomb (documentary)" redirect was deleted today, but I don't know why. I didn't know it was listed at RfD. When I had made the above comment, it was not. Jay  💬 17:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, WP:NOTCENSORED <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * How is NOTCENSORED an argument for the nomination or even for Delete? Jay  💬 16:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. No title matches exist. Steel1943  (talk) 18:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) per footnote [b]: ...alternatively referred to as Fuck: A Documentary and The F-Bomb: A Documentary. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. An R from short title of an alternative name specified in the article, with a valid parenthetical disambiguator (per Jay). All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 12:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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F-Bomb (movie)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . A couple of editors !voted to retarget to the current target, which I interpreted as keep opinions. See also recent related discussions for F-Bomb (documentary) and The F-Bomb (movie). (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="F-Bomb (movie)">F-Bomb (movie) → Fuck (2005 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:10, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep to be consistent with the The F-Bomb (movie) redirect suggestion as per its RfD discussion. Jay  💬 05:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: 2x Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, WP:NOTCENSORED <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * How is NOTCENSORED an argument for the nomination or even for Delete? Jay  💬 16:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. No title matches exist. Steel1943  (talk) 18:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film), a movie titled (at least in part) "F-Bomb", per Tavix' arguments in the related discussions above. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) per Tavix's comments in other threads regarding the footnote at that article. An R from short title of an alternative name specified in the article, with a valid parenthetical disambiguator (the article introduces the subject as a documentary film, and - as evidenced by our article - movie is a synonym for film). All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 12:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:FLUFF
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 2%23Wikipedia:FLUFF

2022 abortion performed on a 10-year-old in Ohio
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Editors could not agree about whether the factual inaccuracies in the title outweighed its potential usefulness as a plausible search term. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * 2022 abortion performed on a 10-year-old in Ohio → 2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as inaccurate and implausible. The abortion was performed in Indiana, not Ohio. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:11, 6 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Keep - Keep per WP:CHEAP. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why? WP:CHEAP doesn't explain why this redirect should be kept, it explains the general state of redirects. That's why you'll rarely see others cite it at RfD, it doesn't say anything in particular. Instead, it'd be more helpful to explain why you created it and why it may be a useful redirect, despite being inaccurate. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Reply - Some people do not know that the abortion was performed in Indiana. Additionally, the redirect is not blocking any other article from being created. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:42, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also see this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_5#10-year-old_Ohio_rape_victim_required_to_cross_state_lines_to_obtain_abortion Okmrman (talk) 21:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Searching this term is entirely plausible, as the title lends itself to potential confusion by mentioning both Ohio and Indiana. TNstingray (talk) 23:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is fine. Someone searching for this term will find out the facts of the case. BD2412  T 02:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a search engine, redirects should not be accommodating inaccurate keywords cobbled together into a never-before-seen title. As the abortion was not performed in Ohio, this cannot be an alternative name for the subject. Typing this into the search bar is far more insightful than maintaining this as a redirect, as readers will see the correct title and realize "Ah, it was the Indiana abortion case; the abortion was not performed in Ohio". This redirect currently causes confusion and presents a faulty equalization that a Ohio-abortion case = Indiana-abortion case, as there's no mention of a "Ohio-abortion misconception" or anything that would imply such a misconception. The redirect in question does not appear written at the target page (as it's untrue), nor does it appear anywhere on Wikipedia (as it's untrue). Utopes (talk / cont) 07:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirects don't have to be mentioned in the article; there is no requirement for that.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I never said that being mentioned is a requirement. Thousands don't, probably. But not being mentioned, heck, not even ever alluded to, absolutely demolishes any of the little motivation for keeping misleading information in the form of a redirect void-of-context. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible – though apparently not popular – search term, because not everyone is going to remember where the abortion physically happened. It sounds like the concern is that some editors parse the title as meaning that Ohio was the location of the abortion, rather than the (usual) location of the child – i.e., that "2022 abortion performed on a 10-year-old in Ohio" is equal to "2022 abortion performed in Ohio on a 10-year-old" and is factually inaccurate, but "2022 abortion performed on a 10-year-old from Ohio" would be accurate.  I see their point, but I think that asking for grammatical perfection in a redirect is not necessary.  The point of a redirect is to get people to the article that contains the accurate facts, and this will achieve that goal.  Just as I think the incorrect hyphenation is not a good reason to delete a redirect, I think the suboptimal preposition isn't a good reason to delete it.  Also, it looks like  an RM during the first weeks of the article's existence introduced the "in Ohio" idea.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * "Plausible, but not very popular" is a wild misrepresentation of the fundamental facts. This makes the assumption that A: writing a backwards, incorrect, non-existent / Google search prompt is "plausible", and B: a grand total of zero views with the last 12 months is "apparently not popular"... "Apparently"?? Even with the clunky overly-specific and still somehow incorrect title out of the way, was there a world that this title was even going to get a view? No, it's completely unnatural and would be expected to exist by zero people on Wikipedia. If you ask 100 people to describe the case in 30 different ways, I'm nearly positive that this title wouldn't appear ever, much less make the shortlist for likely and useful redirects. This is a search term, not worthy of a redirect. Search terms as redirects are a horrible precedent as is, as there's literally infinite search terms in existence and not worthwhile to entertain as long as Wikipedia has a build-in search box that captures every single variety, and everything I've tried has led to 100% accurate results as long as the text exists.
 * And yet, with all of those tests, there are thousands of theoretical implausible search-term-redirects that could (and don't) exist. And all of the thousands would be far better options that 2022 abortion performed on a 10-year-old in Ohio in its current state, as it's literally a lie. On the chance that this is naturally typed into Wikipedia, with someone asking themselves "was this abortion in Indiana or Ohio?", they get a wrong answer. Why click further? The title implies the events already, and the implication is simply untrue. There's like 30+ other redirects currently here that capture every reasonable (and unreasonable) outcome, this untruth variant is simply not necessary. It's harmful and confusing and deletable per WP:RDEL #2. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 17:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Wikipedia is not Google, and even if it was, the redirect is still inaccurate. Drowssap  SMM  13:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete inaccurate and implausible search term. <b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b><b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b> 09:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Wikipedia is not a search engine <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  15:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - search term with enough relevant facts to identify the target, and catches searches where the reader doesn't know (or care) which particular state the specific events occurred in. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * So does this mean that as long as a redirect is 80% correct, it doesn't matter if the remaining 20% is wrong/misleading because 80 is still a passing grade? There's an infinite number of 100% correct titles out there, I feel we should be focusing on redirecting those rather than phrases that are 90% or 80% or 70% correct; "close enough" isn't enough to redirect (the search bar solves all of those problems). Utopes (talk / cont) 17:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's exactly what it means. A redirect is meant to get readers to the information they're looking for, not penalize them for not already knowing certain specific (and to non-Americans, largely irrelevant) details of an event. Unless we have many articles on American children being sexually assaulted and then forced to travel to a different state for critical medical care that's denied to them in their home states for stupid religious reasons, "close enough" is just that: close enough. Taking them to the information they're obviously looking for is clearly better than taking them to an error message. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 01:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay... so throwing a hodgepodge of accurate enough words in a title gives one freedom to fill the remaining 20% with lies, I guess? Maybe nobody outside of America cares about the details and whether the abortion was in Indiana or Tennessee or Alaska or on the moon. Having unexplained lies in a title is inherently confusing, given that the 30 other ~implausible redirects that were created to this article are going to autofill here first. "Details being irrelevant" and "true accuracy doesn't matter" isn't just a pandora's box, it's a crushing typhoon of redirection malpractice. What error message would people see? The search results?? That's where readers go for 99.9% of the infinite search terms out there anyway. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible search term.  Frank  Anchor  20:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete because often times you don't see the redirection header when viewing the article; hence, such incorrect redirects may cause confusion. Bwrs (talk) 05:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete The abortion was not performed in Ohio. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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F-Bomb (documentary)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  01:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="F-Bomb (documentary)">F-Bomb (documentary) → Fuck (2005 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep to be consistent with the The F-Bomb (documentary) redirect, which the nom (correctly) fixed last week. Jay  💬 04:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * "The F-Bomb (documentary)" redirect was deleted today, but I don't know why. I didn't know it was listed at RfD. When I had made the above comment, it was not. Jay  💬 07:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, WP:NOTCENSORED <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * How is NOTCENSORED an argument for the nomination or even for Delete? Jay  💬 16:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. No title matches exist. Steel1943  (talk) 02:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix's comments in other threads regarding the footnote at that article. An R from short title of an alternative name specified in the article, with a valid parenthetical disambiguator (the target article introduces the subject as a documentary film). All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 12:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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The F-Bomb (movie)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Fuck (2005 film).  ✗  plicit  01:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="The F-Bomb (movie)">The F-Bomb (movie) → Fuck (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) to be consistent with the The F-Bomb (film) redirect suggestion as per its RfD discussion. Jay  💬 05:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 17:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom, WP:NOTCENSORED. <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * How is NOTCENSORED an argument for the nomination or even for Delete? Jay  💬 16:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. No title matches exist. Steel1943  (talk) 02:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per a bunch of stuff already said. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Whoops, wrong thread. Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) per a bunch of stuff already said. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Fuck (2005 film) per Tavix's comments in other threads regarding the footnote at that article. An R from short title of an alternative name specified in the article, with a valid parenthetical disambiguator (the article introduces the subject as a documentary film, and - as evidenced by our article - movie is a synonym for film). All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 12:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dulah, California
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 11%23Dulah, California

Colonia Ulpia Traiana
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 11%23Colonia Ulpia Traiana

Draft:2021 Wikimedia Foundation's actions in Chinese Wikipedia
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  Toadette Edit! 17:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Draft:2021 Wikimedia Foundation's actions in Chinese Wikipedia → 2021 Wikimedia Foundation actions on the Chinese Wikipedia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The article is already live. No need for a draft title. Ahri.boy (talk) 17:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep per WP:RDRAFT, and no reason to delete given in nomination statement hence WP:SK applies. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5450:3A3:46CC:17EC (talk) 17:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Culture Jam (mixtape)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1%23Culture Jam (mixtape)

Kawaii Leonard
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1%23Kawaii Leonard

LeBron Jim
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * LeBron Jim → LeBron James (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as redirect creator (though I oppose a G7 speedy). While "Jim" is a common abbreviation for the given name "James", it does not appear to translate the same way for the surname, thus making the redirect more unnecessary than I thought when creating it in 2009.  Frank  Anchor  14:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jim. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible to a point where it could plausibly refer to someone else. Steel1943  (talk) 03:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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LeOld LeBald Le4and6
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * LeOld LeBald Le4and6 → LeBron James (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.  Frank  Anchor  15:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep A variety of Le____ have been used to refer to LeBron James and nominator hasn't demonstrating any harm in this redirect existing. There are reasons other than typos for redirects existing and therefore nomination hasn't met deletion criteria. <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"> pbp  15:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Who is going to search "LeOld LeBald Le4and6" to find LeBron James? Someone just put together three random nicknames that are used to mock him, what is the point of having this? Mazewaxie  ( talk  •  contribs ) 20:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That "someone" is actually the editor who you're replying to, since they're the ones who created the redirect. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom + disparaging nickname. Not every string of three vaguely plausible nicknames deserve a redirect, and there isn't evidence for these three specifically being found together as a nickname. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 23:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, absolutely useless and beyond unlikely to use this title to reach one of the most recognized athletes of all time. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom et al. Useless nonsense. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible WP:NEO-ish redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 22:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Nba allstar 2007 mvp
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1%23Nba allstar 2007 mvp

The ceiling is the roof
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The ceiling is the roof → Michael Jordan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a quote from Jordan, but it is not mentioned so the redirect is unhelpful. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep As noted above, was a quote from Jordan. Nominator seems to have nominated NBA-related redirects en masse and doesn't seem to understand redirect rules. <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"> pbp  15:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The quote is from Jordan, but is it particularly relevant to have a redirect? Also it's never mentioned in Jordan's article. Mazewaxie  ( talk  •  contribs ) 20:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * From what I've seen so far, the nominator understands the rules perfectly well. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unmentioned quote. Nothing about "ceilings" nor "roofs" ever is discussed at the target page. There is no context as to what this quote is, who said it, or why it's a redirect there (or what part of the page it is pertinent to). Michael Jordan is one of the greatest athletes of all time, so anyone that wants to reach his page can easily do so through his name or the 20 other redirects that point here. Making a conscious decision to type in "the ceiling is a roof" implies that searchers are looking for a specific topic, and such a topic is not covered at the target article or anywhere on Wikipedia. Its existence misleads readers into a wild goose chase to find non-existent material. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete No mention on the page, no demonstrated relevance, not Wikiquote.—Bagumba (talk) 10:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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God's team
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * God's team → Real Madrid CF (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak delete This phrase appears to come from a quote by Sergio Ramos which is mentioned in the article. I don't think that's enough to warrant a redirect, but I could be convinced otherwise if there is evidence that this is a more common nickname. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete and definitely don't keep, as a vague and unhelpful term that would be more suitable for any other topic related to god and a team from a religious sense. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: whilst they have been referred to as this at least once, I imagine a bunch of other sports teams will also have been referred to as this, as the term is vague. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Draft:Taylor Swift
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1%23Draft:Taylor Swift

King Kev
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * King Kev → Kevin Keegan (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. It is the most common nickname for him, but dates back to the 1970s. Anyone looking for him would surely be aware of his name and just type that. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep If It is the most common nickname for him as Crowsus asserts, then it should be added to the article. I don't see how this would be an implausible search term in that case. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have added a mention. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Presidentman, navigationally useful. Nickname should be sourced and added to article. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5450:3A3:46CC:17EC (talk) 17:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: It's a valid nickname for him. "It's from the 1970s" doesn't make it less valid as a search term. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Eleven of Hearts
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Eleven of Hearts → Gareth Bale (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - not included in this article and the section name after the # does not even exist any more. However, there are external links which has that but since Eleven of Hearts is more than one entity, it is best served as it's own article, subject to notability, excluding the Gareth Bale trademark celebration. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Leo Di
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Leo Di → Leonardo DiCaprio (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, unnatural and unexpected chopping of first and last name, would not be searched and would not discourage readers from finding the main page. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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Regordinho
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Regordinho → Ronaldinho (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Also a possibly insulting redirect: "regordinho" is Portuñol for "very fat" (literally), which is a play on Ronaldinho (similarly pronounced). Bedivere (talk) 00:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per Bedivere. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: not used in media, and seems to be being used as an insult. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Originaldo
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1%23Originaldo

Diego Marradonna
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The King of Football
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You cant see me move
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * You cant see me move → John Cena (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, "you can't see me move" is not a phrase mentioned at the target. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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John Seena
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Scorsesi
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Scorsezi
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Cris Ron
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Cris Ron → Cristiano Ronaldo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't remember creating this but it's not a worthwhile redirect Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete this arbitrary shortname that sees no use. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Chris Ronaldo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Chris Ronaldo → Cristiano Ronaldo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as the subject is not called Chris, and there is no mention of "Chris " in the target article's prose. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Rehan ronaldo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Rehan ronaldo → Cristiano Ronaldo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - I have not found evidence that this is an alternative name for Cristiano Ronaldo Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per no mention of Rehan at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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The World's Top Goal Scorer 2011
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The World's Top Goal Scorer 2011 → Lionel Messi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mainspace page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Corey Perry. Delete, there are other sports that also have top goal scorers. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not Google, this is not how we do redirects. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: as ambiguous, since many sports exists and have goal scorers. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 16:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Messidona
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Messidona → Lionel Messi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CHEAP. If found via Internet search, clarifies that it refers to Messi (and not Maradona). Homei (talk) 20:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, was going to delete based on being an implausible and unmentioned nickname, but after Homei's explanation my deletion is stronger, as this is now also an WP:XY situation with Maradona, and can understandably apply to either target due to incorporating both players' names equally. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Messimagician
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Messimagician → Lionel Messi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as Messimagician isn't mentioned at the target. Nobody would type this in after having already typed out "Messi", which redirects to Lionel already. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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LM19
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * LM19 → Lionel Messi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No page links here, also an implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Crowsus (talk) 14:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CHEAP. Homei (talk) 20:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, no mention and no indication that this is a plausible alternative nickname of the subject, based on the content of the article. Anything can be an abbreviation, but in this format it seems unlikely. Messi is one of the most well known athletes of all time, and can be found easily. This redirect is not supported by content, as we have nothing to say about "LM19". Utopes (talk / cont) 07:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Joever
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Joever → wiktionary:Joever (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:SSRT. Do we really need to include such 4-chan internet slang with no encyclopedic value, a "word" not used in any articles? Fram (talk) 08:50, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:42, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 11:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as creator per WP:CHEAP. Duckmather (talk) 01:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * it's not joever til it's joever, and that entry is goated with the sauce
 * ...apologies for whatever that was, and for the somewhat hidden pun. keep as there are sources  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Clearly pretty cheap and redirects are allowed to be "unencyclopedic". Okmrman (talk) 04:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Dr. Seuss Enterprises
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dr. Seuss Enterprises → Dr. Seuss (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Company not mentioned at target. Should be tagged as R without mention if kept. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep It's mentioned in these articles. Nightscream (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, not because of incoming links (as those don't matter if there's nothing to show for it at the target), but keep because "Enterprises" is mentioned at the article, at least in March '24. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Kannagi (upcoming film)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Yet another upcoming film redirect divides editors on whether the remaining trickle of pageviews are sufficient to merit keeping. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Kannagi (upcoming film)">Kannagi (upcoming film) → Kannagi (2023 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This film released just about 4 months ago and is no longer upcoming. Plenty of time has past to the point that there is no more confusion for a 2023 movie, as it's well into 2024 now. Nobody ending up here who sees "upcoming film" in the title would be surprised by it's removal for a movie releasing last year. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:55, 16 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:SNOW. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Very strong keep this redirect got 169 hits in the 30 days prior to this nomination, it is extremely clearly still serving a useful purpose. It's been used every single day this year, almost always more than once. Thryduulf (talk) 19:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Thryduulf, redirect clearly still in use. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. We shouldn't delete a redirect that is being used by readers with relative frequency. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. (Seriously, though, we shouldn't be using relative terms like "upcoming" in redirect titles.) —<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i> v^&lowbar;^v  Source assessment notes 03:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:SNOW, and the film has released. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  04:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. 4 months is long enough. Steel1943  (talk) 13:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Here we go again. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Mazewaxie  ( talk  •  contribs ) 06:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:UFILM, the film was released more than 30 days ago. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: still in use, and not ambiguous with another future film that I'm aware of. WP:UFILM states that 'upcoming film' redirects should be nominated for deletion...at least 30 days after the film receives a title or wide release, in order to allow pageviews to taper off (my emphasis) -- 30 days is a minimum, not a requirement to delete after; and the current pageviews indicate that retaining this redirect would be helpful. All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 16:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf and Smart kitten. Unambiguous and useful, pageviews have tapered off but they show it is still being used well. Try after a few months. Jay  💬 19:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Phone computer
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Phone computer. No consensus for Computer phone due to the split !votes. However, due to the unusually strong opposition to disambiguation, I'm choosing to retarget to One Per Desk as the WP:BARTENDER. That said, perhaps a fresh discussion on that one may generate a stronger consensus for...something? -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Phone computer → Smartphone (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Computer phone → Smartphone (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This seems overly technical. Nobody would really refer to smartphones as a phone computer outside of drawing some comparisons between smartphones and computers. Okmrman (talk) 04:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 15:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 11:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is what a smartphone is, and I wouldn't be surprised if the terms were used before "smartphone" became the established term (I can't check as Google is refusing to show me results that are both verbatim and before a given time, and either one alone is overwhelmed by irrelevant results where the two words happen to be adjacent, especially in lists in adverts). Thryduulf (talk) 18:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment shouldn't this actually link to telco equipment? Such as a PBX or other phone computers -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. The phrasing of these redirects makes me believe they could also refer to Modem, thus making these redirects ambiguous. Steel1943  (talk) 04:59, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I reaffirm my "delete" per 's comment: A disambiguation page would not be the solution since none of the subjects mentioned so far are title matches. Let Wikipedia search do its job instead. Steel1943  (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I think it is easy for English first speakers (or young people) to say they aren't needed, but they probably serve some utility and they perfectly describe what they are.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 11:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Dabify. As Steel mentioned, a viable interpretation of this would be Modem, being "a phone used by a computer". However, I'd also think that VoIP phone-- a phone that uses the Internet instead of normal phone lines-- or softphone-- a software program that could call other people, which could be downloaded and installed on a PC-- would be valid interpretations of "Phone computer" or "Computer phone". Given I'm sure none of the above- including Smartphone (a phone which is a computer)-- would be a primary target, dabification is warranted. edited at 14:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 12:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment continuing off of my already existing vote post: The way I see it, we have the following links to disambig between:
 * Modem, a device that allows a computer to access the internet using telephone lines
 * Smartphone, a cell phone that also has features analogous to a personal computer
 * VoIP phone, a phone that uses the Internet in leiu of normal phone lines
 * Softphone, a program allowing the use of a desktop or laptop computer to call others
 * Computer telephony integration, technology that allows interactions between a telephone and computer to be coordinated
 * Computerphone, also known as One Per Desk, a hybrid telephone and computer sold by Sinclair QL
 * Someone searching these two prompts could be looking for any of the above. (Feel free to use this as the basis for a disambig page :3) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: One more go… Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - disambiguation pages are for topics that have the same title, not for manually compiled search indexes of possibly related keywords. We have a search engine for that, let it do its job. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambig - The modern context is the smartphone. The historical context is a computer that you dialed through your phone, computer telephony integration. See . GobsPint (talk) 22:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Vague, ambiguous guesswork. Also per Ivanvector. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget Computer phone to One Per Desk to match Computerphone. Delete Phone computer per all as ambiguous but not suitable for a dab page. Jay  💬 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate - given Jay's find of Computerphone pointing to One Per Desk, deletion seems undesirable as it would leave a redirect to a niche usage that is nevertheless justifiable as a search term and redirect. signed,Rosguill talk 19:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete both; these phrases are incredibly ambiguous and not really common parlance for anything. Oppose disambiguation for the same reasons. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget Computer phone and delete Phone computer per Jay. Computer phone should be kept since a plausible target for it exists, and due to its similarities with Computerphone. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 17:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm happy with disambiguation or with keeping. In addition to the points made above, "phone computer" is a very plausible search term for "computerphone" from someone who has misremembered the name of the old technology. Thryduulf (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete The low page views(low utility) on both of the redirects show that it is not a common search term. Since it is vague and potentially confusing, keeping is not an option. I oppose DABbing since the potiential targets are only vaguely related to either of the terms. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  00:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Vague and ambiguous. Disambiguating is not the correct solution for the reasons given by Ivanvector. <b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b><b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b> 01:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Colonial haiti
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Nominator withdraws. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 00:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Colonial haiti → Saint-Domingue (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Grammatical errors. (Haiti warrants capitalization and there is currently no redirect for “Colonial Haiti”). Orphan. Serves no useful purpose. Obvious technical error in its creation. Creator is currently serving an indefinite ban. Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Not useful, only has 255 pageviews per WMFcloud since it starting counting views back in 2015. CitationsFreak (talk) 02:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:CHEAP. Unambigous and correctly targeted. The only error here is the lack of capitalization, which is not implausible. The correctly capitalized version should be created as well. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment User:Savvyjack23 the error is not an obvious one as required for CSD, and Template:R from miscapitalizations are created as a matter of routine. That the creator was subsequently blocked or banned has no bearing on a redirects suitability as only creations made in violation of a block or ban are subject to WP:G5, and this predates it. Please instead try to ground your concerns in WP:RFD, thank you. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5450:3A3:46CC:17EC (talk) 16:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Presidentman and 2601:5CC:etc. Plausible error and WP:CHEAP to maintain. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:5450:3A3:46CC:17EC, you continue to misread my comments. I didn’t mention that user made this edit while being banned and in violation of it, only that his edits should be more scrutinized since his ban is indefinite. Please stop replying back with WP:G5.Thank you. Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn (Retracting nomination) Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Side-dump condola
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Side-dump condola → Gondola (rail) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a likely typo (the correctly spelled phrase is side dump gondola which has existed as a redirect for a decade). Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unlikely typo/misspelling. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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