Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 26

April 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 26, 2024.

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Sic erat scriptum
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 15:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Sic erat scriptum → Sic (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per Talk:Sic. Redirecting still suggests that "sic" derives from "sic erat scriptum", a claim which Wikipedia has featured from 12 years, is widely repeated on external websites, but is as of yet unverified. Redirecting would make sense if the target article would discuss the phrase, but this is not the case. People looking for this should also be able to find the simple sic, and not finding anything under sic erat scriptum is a plus in this case because it correctly indicates that the phrase is not notable. ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 22:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete erroneous Latin, may have been a commonly believed false etymology previously but the lack of page views indicate this false etymology has been forgotten. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not mentioned in enwiki (except at Evan Mather in capitalised form, as a film essay). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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Edmonton Strathcona
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 * The result of the discussion was swap  . signed,Rosguill talk 16:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Edmonton Strathcona → Edmonton Strathcona (federal electoral district) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No evidence the current target is the primary topic for this specific spelling, retarget to dab at Strathcona. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:06, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as is Creating loads of links to disambiguation pages is not a good idea. The Banner  talk 20:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmm...the provincial district is hyphenated, whereas the federal district is two separate words. The incoming links seem to mainly refer to the federal district. Weak keep, I think. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 02:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I am also comfortable with the solution proposed below by User:Ivanvector. It seems that the recent move by User:Arctic.gnome may have been improper based on WP:CANRIDINGDAB. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That same guideline says When federal and provincial riding names differ only in punctuation, one or both should include disambiguation in their titles as if their names were identical (e.g. Edmonton—Strathcona and Edmonton-Strathcona (provincial electoral district)).. Yes, it does use an outdated vision of this specific redirect as an example. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is the sentence I was referring to. I am saying that the move should not have occurred based on it. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess we disagree about whether "Edmonton Strathcona" and "Edmonton-Strathcona" differ only in punctuation. I would say they do. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Swap the article with the redirect, this is unnecessary disambiguation. The federal district is "Edmonton Strathcona" and the provincial one is "Edmonton-Strathcona", and per WP:SMALLDETAILS the difference in hyphenation is sufficient to disambiguate. The federal was formerly "EdmontonStrathcona", with an emdash, which follows the naming pattern for federal electoral districts in Canada; provincial districts usually hyphenate instead but it varies by province. When a reader looks for "Edmonton Strathcona" they should end up on one of the two topics that have this name, not a list of partial title matches. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep and no opposition to moving the page back to its previous title. Edmonton Strathcona is the exact, current name of the federal riding and should take a searcher there. Hatnotes are included to alleviate some of the confusion around similarly named districts. I'm not convinced that sending a searcher to a PTM DAB page is a good solution when there could only be confusion with one other page, regardless of which page is the primary topic. &#8213; Synpath 23:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Swap, exactly per Ivanvector above. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Swap clearly unnecessary disambig Okmrman (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Swap, natural disambiguation. Also move Edmonton-Strathcona (provincial electoral district) to Edmonton-Strathcona (currently a redirect to disambig) for the same reason, with a hatnote to the federal district. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 16:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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V of Doom, Steel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * V of Doom → Viacom (1952–2005) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * V of Steel → Viacom (1952–2005) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "doom" or "steel" at the target article, much less a "v of". Seems to be in reference to their logo being a "V", but coverage of the logo itself is not present in the article, and would be less likely than just searching for Viacom itself. Not currently a helpful redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not helpful in its current state. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete as confusing at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dougie (disambiguation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 19%23Dougie (disambiguation)

Mimoid
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Aniara  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  18:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Mimoid → Solaris (novel) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of this novel feature(?), aspect? mentioned at the target article. Has three other mentions on Wikipedia in different contexts, also Mimoides exists with a number of subarticles on species. Not currently a useful redirect without context at the target. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I was linking it to the wrong page it was supposed to link to Aniara, not Solaris (novel).


 * That might be typical, but it is the lack of mention of the word Mimoid in the article that made me make the redirect. If someone searchs for the term, they will be lead to the article. The solution is to mention them in the Article as they were a critical part of the book.


 * I understand that the book was written in Swedish, so other translators might have used a different word. If someone finds a different word used, but it is still unique to Aniara, then they could make a redirect to the article, where a standard term can be referred on.


 * If someone encounters the concept, it is highly likely that it is from Aniara and yet without the redirect, neither human nor bot would know that the word is associated with the book, and since as far as I know it is not associated with another novel. I had not fully completed reading the story yet when I made the link.


 * My intention is to add further discussion to the article, using the word, but I hoped the redirect would help others find the article. I also think it is worthy of an article in its own right, so if someone is really ambitious they can turn it into an article.


 * It doesn't refer to the moth. The reasons you are giving are why I made the redirect.


 * I don't think I need to make a list of all of the alien races and species that have a page on wikipedia. In the case where it doesn't refer to a dictionary word or a concept used in other novels, then it should be uncontroversial.


 * The moth name is pronounced meemo-eedays not mimoids, if someone types Mimoid I assume they are searching for the concept from Aniara, and it right now similarity search leads to you to the moth, when the page you are looking for is Aniara.


 * I think I might have directed it to the wrong page, it was supposed to link to Aniara not Solaris (novel).

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 * Mechachleopteryx (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Aniara per comment above. Okmrman (talk) 15:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Mechachleopteryx. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dbar
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) Duckmather (talk) 06:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dbar → Bar (unit) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Sergei Dbar, Dorotheos Dbar, below, and even the callsign of Hermann Marwede. Doesn't seem like there is a primary topic here. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate I don't believe 'dbar' is a common misspelling of 'bar'. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguatte there is also D with stroke (D-bar, barred-D) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Several plausible meanings, no clear primary. (However, 'dbar' is not a misspelling of 'bar', but the standard metric abbreviation of decibar.) Hqb (talk) 06:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Dabify per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment: dbar is the symbol for decibar (10 kPa). JoshuaAuble (talk) 22:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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USB Gecko
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * USB Gecko → Homebrew (video games) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Usb Gecko → Homebrew (video games) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A "gecko" is never mentioned at the target article, and while this redirect points to the "Wii" section, no mentions of "USB"s are present in the section, although they're mentioned in others. Seems to be a case of some information being removed, rendering this into an unhelpful redirect in the meantimes. Of note: the capitalized version has some 2010 history. The lowercase version does not and was created after a move. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, "USB Gecko" is a modding and debugging tool for the Wii, it's not mentioned in the target but it's closely related so I think this redirect is fair. TappyTurtle  &#91;talk &#124; contribs&#93; 03:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep, an early modding and debugging tool for the Wii (it/Gecko OS are somewhat comparable to Action Replay/GameShark, though not exactly). It'd be better to have a mention, but the redirect is still useful to get general context even without that. --Pokechu22 (talk) 04:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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D-bar operator
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 17%23D-bar operator

Universal Monsters Shared Universe
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United Penn Bank
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 4%23United Penn Bank

Undertow (Transformers)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 6%23Undertow (Transformers)

The rise fo the witch king
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The rise fo the witch king → The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely typo; never used online. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete As totally unlikely typo. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 16:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete miscap and mispelling. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Portrait fo Ambroise Vollard with a Cat
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Portrait fo Ambroise Vollard with a Cat → Portrait of Ambroise Vollard with a Cat (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Error on creation; this was the title of the article for less than a minute, and has never been used elsewhere according to search engines. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 16:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Pamela Serpe
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Pamela Serpe → List of Playboy Playmates of the Month (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. She appears to have featured in that issue but not as Playmate of the Month. There are 3 mentions in enwiki: we should have a redlink to encourage article creation if appropriate. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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Podcasting: The Do It Yourself Guide
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:G11.  Also deleted third redirect at Podcasting: The Do it Yourself Guide —  Cactus Writer (talk) 22:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Podcasting: The Do It Yourself Guide → Podcast (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Podcasting The Do it Yourself Guide → Podcast (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Book has zero significance or relevance to page. Also, it appears that this page violates speedy deletion G11 due since it's made by a user named ToddCochane. And who is the author of the book when you Google it up? It's Todd Cochane. Only reason why I'm not nominating it for speedy deletion is because it's been there so like and nobody else who came upon this redirect somehow noticed. Okmrman (talk) 20:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


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Folies bourgeoise.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Folies bourgeoise. → Twist (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This refers to The Twist (1976 film), with the French-language title Folies bourgeoises. This misspelling, with the full stop at the end, seems WP:UNNATURAL. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and per Wikipedia. Okmrman (talk) 00:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete this error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Harley Quin
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Harley Quin → The Mysterious Mr Quin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I found this redirect when searching for Harley Quinn. Given the prominence of Harley Quinn, I wonder if the target should change or if there should just be a hatnote placed on the current target. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't remember what specifically had led in 2007 to my creating the redirect to the Agatha Christie novel The Mysterious Mr Quin in which a character named Harley Quin featured. I'm fine with whatever others deem appropriate. Шизомби (Sz) (talk) 22:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep and add hatnote. Correctly-spelled subject matter should be preferred over a misspelling. - Eureka Lott 03:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The typo potential is real, so a hatnote is fine, I've added one, but I suppose the real question is whether to point Harley Quin (disambiguation) to the list or just to the primary topic for Harley Quinn? --Joy (talk) 08:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Or maybe even Harlequin (disambiguation)? --Joy (talk) 08:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Harley Quin (disambiguation) doesn't really need to exist, because that spelling isn't ambiguous, but since you created it, it's probably pointing to the correct place. - Eureka Lott 15:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @EurekaLott the reason why it's good to have a distinct redirect for this purpose is that now we can measure the reader interest in the hatnote, as opposed to having to rely on clickstreams. --Joy (talk) 20:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Eureka. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hatnote per above. 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: with hatnote as above. Skynxnex (talk) 17:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Hatnote already serves any reader that is looking for the DC character. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Insurance goal
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 21:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Insurance goal → Glossary of ice hockey terms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target page. Tea2min (talk) 15:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: The term has not yet been added back to the list. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 05:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: final relist Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 18:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary redirect to wikt:insurance goal. There it's given in the context of soccer but it's the same meaning. Preferable to adding it back to the list of hockey terms since it also applies to other sports. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Add back to the list, or delete per WP:REDYES for both the soccer/football and hockey terms. This search for "insurance goal on Wikipedia returns a surprising amount of articles that mention the phrase for its soccer/football and hockey uses, but surprisingly none of the results are articles that define the term. For this reason, the phrase seems notable enough in some regard to be included and defined either in an existent article or a standalone article. Steel1943  (talk) 20:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Wiktionary redirect per Ivan Okmrman (talk) 21:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, just added it back to the list. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 15:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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HDIV
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 * The result of the discussion was restore and nominate at AfD  . (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * HDIV → Datadog (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparently HDIV is now a part of Datadog. However, this framework is never mentioned anywhere at the target article. This undone PROD seems to be either suited for a standalone article (hard as there were no references previously), or no article at all. The status quo of retargeting this to the parent of Datadog does not seem helpful for people searching for this term to find out what HDIV means perhaps, and not having any content at the target to answer these questions. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 18:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Restore / Merge / AfD. Jay  💬 18:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Restore / Merge / AfD. Okmrman (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Revert redirect and send to AfD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and per 's PROD rationale. I have no idea what and  mean by Restore / Merge / AfD. Were you able to find sources suitable for merging? If you want to merge, why would you also want to send this to AfD? Do you think such an article stands a chance to be kept should it be at AfD? -- Tavix  ( talk ) 17:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * By "/" I meant OR, AND where applicable. Restore or/and AfD or Restore and merge if possible, etc. Anything is fine, but just to note that keep, retarget, delete were not my choices. I usually don't vote at AfD unless it's for an article I have been involved in or have knowledge about. Jay  💬 07:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Heaven’s Gate (AJ Mitchell song)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Heaven’s Gate (AJ Mitchell song) and retarget High Like You to William_Wiik_Larsen.  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Heaven’s Gate (AJ Mitchell song)">Heaven’s Gate (AJ Mitchell song) → AJ Mitchell (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * High Like You → AJ Mitchell (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No song with either of these names is discussed at the target article; nothing present for people searching for this song, only to be given a page with zero relevant information. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 18:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget High Like You to William Wiik Larsen. Delete Heavens Gate. Jay  💬 17:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete Heavens Gate and Retarget High Like You Okmrman (talk) 21:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hubert’s Lemonade
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 3%23Hubert’s Lemonade

Saint John High School Fencing Club
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 12:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Saint John High School Fencing Club → High school fencing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary redirect, clubs of specific schools would typically not be made into an article (or redirect for that matter) unless it is notable. This is the only redirect to High school fencing aside from a different capitalization redirect. B3251 (talk) 16:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 18:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete because then it would literally indicate that every other high school fencing team can be allowed to redirect here. Okmrman (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not mentioned; not notable. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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Oppa Hitler Style
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 12:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppa Hitler Style → Downfall (2004 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hitler Style → Downfall (2004 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target section discusses the "Hitler reacts" Downfall/Untergang memes generally, but not specific ones, and I don't think it really needs to. Thus, I'm skeptical of redirecting the names of specific parodies. --BDD (talk) 15:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette Edit! 18:05, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Nom. Also potential WP:DAFT Okmrman (talk) 21:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Evil Mario
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 4%23Evil Mario

Quest, Haiti
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:G7.  Please consider using db-self if this ever happens again. - Eureka Lott 17:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Quest, Haiti">Quest, Haiti → Ouest (department) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Self-delete request as this redirect was created out of an accidental typo and I assumed that the already existing redirect of Ouest, Haiti didn't already exist. SuperSkaterDude45 (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Shams ud Duha (disambiguation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 6%23Shams ud Duha (disambiguation)

Lim-1
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate and retarget.


 * Retarget Lim-1 to Lim1
 * Disambiguate Lim1 (non-admin closure) <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Lim-1 → Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lim1 → Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Can also refer to Lim1 transcription factor and (at least the latter) to Lim^1. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have no preference as to where these redirects go, but I will explain why they currently redirect to Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15. "Lim-1" was the designation of the Polish-built MiG-15.  There was also a "Lim-2", which was the Polish-built MiG-15bis. -  ZLEA  T \ C 15:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate create a dab page for the 3 topics (and any more) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate at Lim1: draft provided. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Support dab as provided in the draft -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Highnoon
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to High Noon (disambiguation).  Jay  💬 12:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Highnoon → Early mainframe games (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

R from merge that does not seem to be mentioned at the target any longer. Confusable with High Noon as is, but as an R from merge perhaps there's a deeper noteworthy-ness of the missing space... Utopes (talk / cont) 03:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. No mention at target. Okmrman (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * REtarget to High Noon (disambiguation) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to High Noon (disambiguation). I've added 2 "Highnoon" entries. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to High Noon (disambiguation) per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Overriding (mathematics)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 12:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Overriding (mathematics)">Overriding (mathematics) → Function (mathematics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned anymore at target page, see. Tea2min (talk) 11:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Knightfall (comics)
<span id="Knightfall (comics)"> <span id="Knightfall (character)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 3%23Knightfall (comics)

PORTIA
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 4%23PORTIA

Suttara
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Suttara → Mulabbes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target page, searching the term doesn't appear to give any relevant results. Chaotıċ Enby  (talk · contribs) 10:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I've mis-spelled the title of the article, it should be Mulabbes, and I've moved it to its proper name. רמרום (talk) 10:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You changed Mulabbis to Mulabbes. What has this got to do with the original page title Suttara, which is the redirect under discussion? Jay  💬 13:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 04:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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I Beheld His Glory
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 6%23I Beheld His Glory

ドラゴンボールGT
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . WP:SNOW keep. (non-admin closure)  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="ドラゴンボールGT">ドラゴンボールGT → Dragon Ball GT (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created" per WP:RFD. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 09:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep - since Dragon Ball GT is a Japanese series, permitted per WP:FORRED. JuniperChill (talk) 11:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as the original Japanese name per JuniperChill. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 11:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep: Since this appears to be the original title. Skynxnex (talk) 16:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per nominator's rationale, since the nominator didn't seem to read the topic artilce -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. Hahaha, this is funny. Nominator, please respond to us. Neocorelight (Talk) 10:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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ベビー
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="ベビー">ベビー → Dragon Ball GT (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created" per WP:RFD. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 09:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as Dragon Ball GT is Japanese. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 11:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment: I wouldn't vote to delete based on the foreign language aspect since Dragon Ball is Japanese but it appears that ベビー means simply "baby" in Japanese so I'm not sure this character is primary for this string. I don't know if deletion to encourage using the search results, redirect to Baby (disambiguation), or making a new disambiguation page is feasible (probably not the latter but it's close looking at ). Skynxnex (talk) 16:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. It literally is just a translation of baby in Japanese. Going to be too ambiguous and there is a Japanese Wikipedia anyways. Okmrman (talk) 21:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete as vague. Dragonball doesn't have monopoly of the name Baby. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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23,924 rebounds
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="23,924 rebounds">23,924 rebounds → Wilt Chamberlain (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

That's the exact number of rebounds collected by Wilt Chamberlain in his career. Definitely unworthy of a redirect. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 08:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Anyone who knows that obscure total already knows Wilt Chamberlain. Redirects aren't for knowledgeable people merely testing obscure search terms. —Bagumba (talk) 08:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. I think this could be considered a WP:INDISCRIMINATE concern -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Russell Westbrick
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 4%23Russell Westbrick

Mark McCool
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 13:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Mark McCool → The Undertaker (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A combination of The Undertaker's real first name and his wife's surname. It makes no sense. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Draft:Giannis Antetokounmpo
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  18:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Draft:Giannis Antetokounmpo → Giannis Antetokounmpo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Article already exists. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak (at least for now) per WP:RDRAFT. Duckmather (talk) 04:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:SRE, this is the best way to deal with these, quick, efficient, and far less WP:BITEy than the alternatives, the remaining redirects are both harmless and slightly useful in keeping other novices from making the same mistake. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:49B:2883:34FC:225B (talk) 14:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Article existed from 2013. A NOTHERE editor tried creating a draft 10 years later, and was redirected within 13 minutes. Serves no purpose per RDRAFT. Jay  💬 13:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:RDRAFT is for redirects that are a result of page moves from the draft namespace to the main namespace. This was not a redirect as the result of a page move, so WP:RDRAFT does not apply. If not for 's redirection, it would have been WP:G13 deleted by now. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * User:Tavix WP:RDRAFT specifies when redirects should be retained but not when they should be deleted. WP:SRE is the relevant guideline here, if it had been listed at MFD this would have been the discussion result. I can certainly understand the desire to wipe away everything created by people who misbehave and need to be blocked. However most new users mean well and the existence of this redirect prevents them from making the same mistake as they are taken to where they should be contributing. If deleted and a new user does repeat the mistake then an MFD will just result in us having this redirect anyway. Just don't see any advantage to these nominations. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No, WP:SRE is not relevant here, it's an MFD-specific guideline developed by MFD regulars. For what it's worth, I don't think that duplicate drafts should be redirected at all. Primarily because it removes the G13 clock, and secondly because it can be a space to develop and rework sections of an article that can later be incorporated, which redirecting can short-circuit. If it's a poor draft, just leave it alone and the trash will be taken care of in six months time. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * User:Tavix Well a guidelines is a guideline, and disagreeing with them does not make them go away. It is true that guidelines are applied much less rigidly than policies and that a strong local consensus can override them.
 * I have on a handful of times helped out with rewrites done on draft pages for existing articles, which I agree is usually the best way as it is more collaborative and less time sensitive then relying on Template:In use or Template:Under construction. But the type of people who are likely to start those overhauls are also the type who will know how to navigate back to the page redirected from, or at least that is most likely. Perhaps there should be guidance somewhere that makes it explicitly OK to periodically overwrite draft to main redirects for collaboration then restore once done, but I have a hard time believing someone will object to that anyway once the purpose is explained, even in the absence of guidance expressly oking it. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 17:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * In case I haven't made myself clear: WP:SRE is a guideline for Miscellany for deletion. This is NOT Miscellany for deletion, this is Redirects for discussion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That was ancillary to the point of my last past mentioned in passing mainly because of the necessary consequence leading us right back to where we started which is a factor to consider. But I sense you lack interest in exploring this further and this may well not be best place or time for that either. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 17:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am interested in a discussion to deprecate WP:SRE in favor of leaving such drafts alone without redirecting them, but I'm not going to start one until I have precedent(s). I have no idea what you mean by necessary consequence leading us right back to where we started. Unless you're arguing to restore the draft, there is no situation where WP:SRE comes into play or takes us back to where we started. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There in fact is.
 * Counterpoint in advance, recurring RFDs happen all the time for example "(upcoming film)" redirects and are not that big a nuisance.
 * The pattern is this, draft is created, draft is redirected, draft is listed at RFD, redirect is deleted, draft is created, draft is sent to MFD, draft is SRE'd, not eligible for G4 due to surviving XFD, draft is listed at RFD, rinse wash repeat. Really my entire !vote is premised on there being multiple downsides to deletion, avoiding circularity deriving from WP:SRE, avoiding WP:BITEs as deletion is more bitey than redirection, and avoiding unneccesary work. While there are no corresponding downsides to retention. Above you indicated there were potential downsides like inhibiting draft rewrites. I have not seen that happen, but if that has caused problems that retention will perpetuate then it might be worth exploring, especially if this page is a good candidate for an overhaul. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 18:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The pattern you are describing is not happening... As for WP:BITE, we need not worry about it here— is blocked. Yes, I have indicated there are downsides to redirecting—especially 13 minutes after it was created. That would be WP:BITEy for someone wanting to improve the article in a less stressful environment. Since my preferred action is to let WP:G13 take care of these drafts, and it has been more than six months since the draft was edited, I have no qualms with deletion per the spirit of WP:G13. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair, and thinking about it this is probably too tangential, our differences are probably just a matter of focus anyway. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 18:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix. I truly do understand the thought behind avoiding deletion of new users' creations, but ultimately, it doesn't do anyone any favors. The correct response in such cases is to tell the user "Thanks, but we already have an article on this topic." It's only BITE-y if someone gets nasty about it. --BDD (talk) 19:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant draft that does not meet WP:RDRAFT. The main reason why RDRAFT is a thing is to allow article creators to see that their drafts got accepted. This is moot here, as the draft was not accepted (as being redundant), so deletion is a clearer indication of what happened. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 15:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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Shaq's Size
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Refine to Player profile.  Jay  💬 13:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Shaq's Size → Shaquille O'Neal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Refine to Shaquille O'Neal, where Shaq's size and its significance is explained. This is not a typo or misnomer, implausible or otherwise. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep and refine per Tavix, plausible search term 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:49B:2883:34FC:225B (talk) 14:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Kingofthepirates.com
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DragonBall and DragonBall Z
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * DragonBall and DragonBall Z → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:29, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:XY. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible and redundant. Neocorelight (Talk) 00:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Super Saiyan 6
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Oncotype DX Colon Cancer Assay
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 * The result of the discussion was Restore without prejudice to AfD  .  Jay  💬 13:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Oncotype DX Colon Cancer Assay → Colorectal cancer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Salt evasion of Oncotype_DX. Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Delete or Restore? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 07:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment, this was accepted through AfC in 2012 and BLAR'd in 2017, while Oncotype DX was salted at the same time in 2017, so not salt evasion. Unless there was something visible in the deleted histories that you saw, . Utopes (talk / cont) 23:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Nope. That matches what I can see. Still not mentioned at the target, though, so should still be deleted. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If this isn't salt evasion then, it should be restored and sent to AfD if non-notable, as this is an article which made it through AfC by User:Graeme Bartlett and survived as a standalone topic for years, before being BLAR'd into a page without mention. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Restore and send to AFD, not opposed to trying PROD first if thought uncontroversial though AFC acceptance may call that into question, but yes RFD is not the best venue for making these kind of decisions, which is why the usual standard is to restore and send to AFD. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:49B:2883:34FC:225B (talk) 14:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Bluetista
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Bluetista → Dave Bautista (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete implausible error Okmrman (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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WWE:FE's Shawn Michaels
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * WWE:FE's Shawn Michaels → Shawn Michaels (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is unclear why the creator tried creating the page at this odd title in 2008 when the Shawn Michaels article existed since 2003. Jay  💬 13:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Tim Gambill
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Tim Gambill → Shawn Michaels (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:21, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - unclear who this is. No mention on enwiki. Jay  💬 13:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Rey Mysterio/version 1
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 * The result of the discussion was move without redirect  to Rey Mysterio (disambiguation) and retarget to Mysterio (disambiguation). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Rey Mysterio/version 1">Rey Mysterio/version 1 → Rey Mysterio (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Move without redirect to Rey Mysterio (disambiguation) and retarget to Mysterio (disambiguation) to match Rey Misterio (disambiguation). It's not a typo or misnomer, the history was simply moved out of the way to accommodate a page move from Rey Mysterio, Jr. to Rey Mysterio. The "significant" history is a disambiguation page, so let's move it accordingly to make it useful for disambiguation purposes. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Move without redirect and tag with R with history per Taxiv --Pokechu22 (talk) 16:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Eddict
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Eddict → Eddie Guerrero (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Very weak retarget to Edict as plausible misspelling. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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Kirk Angel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Kirk Angel → Kurt Angle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible typo or misnomer. Mazewaxie ( talk  •  contribs ) 07:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, no such name either at the target or in enwiki. Jay  💬 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Captivate
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Captivate → Adobe Captivate (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Yet another confusing vocabulary word redirect. A cursory search onwiki suggests that this is on the verge of being disambiguatable, with (partial?) title matches like USS Captivate (a ship), Captivating (a book), and Captivation (a movie). But I'm not quite sure if this passes the muster of WP:PTM, so to RfD I go. Duckmather (talk) 04:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate. Disambiguation page drafted below the redirect. - Eureka Lott 14:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Just to name an alternative, See Wiktionary can be used. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Eureka Okmrman (talk) 04:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. Also, Samsung Captivate. Steel1943  (talk) 01:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Support dab. The draft version looks fine. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 09:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate as outlined above. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 16:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Thonk
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Gorbino's Quest
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 15%23Gorbino's Quest

Gribbly
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . However, targeting to Gribbly's Day Out as a target better than Grunge.  Jay  💬 14:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Gribbly → Grunge (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "grib" at the target article, much less a something or someone that's "gribbly". Alternatives include Gribbly's Day Out which exists as a standalone article, as well as Gribble, Roman Gribbs, and the music director of Rec Room (video game). Zero idea or indication why this is going to Grunge currently, although it's done so since 2007. (Doesn't seem to have been mentioned within the former history of Grunger, which is where it used to point back in 2005). These 2005 redirects are... surely something, lol. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Delete or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 22:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * To my knowledge, "gribbly" is not a word. Kill with fire. CAVincent (talk) 09:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Gribbly's Day Out which seems to be our best match. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Gribbly's Day Out: At least it’s the name of the main character. <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  14:29, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Doubt Gribbly's Day Out is a primary target. Google search lends to images of one of the staff for Rec Room (video game) though I doubt it would be notable enough to redirect there either. Okmrman (talk) 04:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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Islamist insurgency in Somalia (2007–present)
<span id="Islamist insurgency in Somalia (2007–present)"> <span id="Islamist insurgency in Somalia (2007-present)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 3%23Islamist insurgency in Somalia (2007–present)