Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 7

April 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 7, 2024.

DFTS
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 * The result of the discussion was Disambiguate  * Pppery * it has begun...  00:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)


 * DFTS → Devil facial tumour disease (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Rarely, if ever, referred to that way. Googling, the most common topic is Defense Freight Transportation Services which we don't have an article about, and I don't see any use of this abbreviation elsewhere Wikipedia. Could be a typo of DFTD, since they're one off on a QWERTY keyboard, but I don't think it's worth keeping a typo of an abbreviation. Rusalkii (talk) 01:21, 19 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Thoughts on disambiguating? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig. This is used for the Durand Football Tournament Society (which organises the Durand Cup) and Defence Fixed Telecommunications Service (mentioned at Defense Switched Network). The connection here is as the plural of DFT (Devil facial tumour), DFTs is most commonly used on Wikipedia in the meaning discrete Fourier transform (usually as "DFTs") but also New Zealand DFT class locomotives. Thryduulf (talk) 03:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * As nom, support disambig. Rusalkii  (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm now wondering whether it would make sense to have a combined dab page for DFT, DFTs and DFTS? Thryduulf (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I would only combine the case changes, this seems to be the normal way to go. See also covers the rest.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC).


 * Dab I was trying to look up Defence Fixed Telecommunications Service, but the other abbreviations exist. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC).

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 23:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * No article on enwiki for this acronym. Delete unless we have a disambig drafted. Jay  💬 12:53, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Dab'ify per above. Fieari (talk) 06:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig, not a well-known abbreviation for "devil facial tumor syndrome" (or whatever it's meant to stand for) and a number of alternative uses as described by Thryduulf. Beefaloe (formerly SpursySituation) (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 04:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Dabify per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Thermodynamics of nanostructures
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 23%23Thermodynamics of nanostructures

Hugin 2023.0.0.d88dc56ded0e built by Thomas
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep  * Pppery * it has begun...  18:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hugin 2023.0.0.d88dc56ded0e built by Thomas → Hugin (software) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely search target, nobody is gonna search by git commit ID Sohom (talk) 18:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep this is an, it's linked from at least two files on Commons File:Panorama Abram van Rijckevorselweg Capelle aan den IJssel.jpg and File:Schobergruppe vom Figerhorn.jpg. Thryduulf (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per Thryduulf. Jay  💬 16:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Institute for Macedonian language "Krste Misirkov"
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  .  Jay  💬 16:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Institute for Macedonian language &quot;Krste Misirkov&quot;">Institute for Macedonian language "Krste Misirkov" → Krste Misirkov Institute for the Macedonian Language (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this is a very awkwardly phrased redirect that is unlikely to be the way a reader would search for this article. This page title is close to the actual name so if a reader used these words, the article would appear in the search results so I don't think this redirect serves any useful purpose. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:44, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't really see a problem. I understand it is a strange format in English Wikipedia but it is the direct translation of the Macedonian name. Other languages tend to use such names with quotes. I think the redirect might be useful for Macedonian-speakers who are less used to the English style in which the proper name goes first in the institution's name. Super   Ψ   Dro  09:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, EggRoll97 (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per User:Super Dromaeosaurus. This is a plausible search term as the most direct translation from Macedonian, and redirects are cheap. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 21:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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X (far-right website)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="X (far-right website)">X (far-right website) → X (social network) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Doesn't seem like a necessary redirect, and the reference of "far-right" doesn't seem established in the main article. EggRoll97 (talk) 22:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Even if Elon Musk has tendencies to post dumb stuff that would cater to the far-right, Twitter isn't a far-right website by itself. If it were, I would've GTFO'd of it long ago.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 22:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Reliable sources have refered to X as a far-right website, see . Redirects do not need to have neutral names. Binnenstaat (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment, regardless of the result, the proper redirect target for this should be Twitter instead of X (social network), which is a redirect. Esolo5002 (talk) 00:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Twitter as per Binnenstaat and Esolo. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 00:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. To respond to Binnenstaat's comment, that article does not describe X as a "far-right website". It is not a plausible search term, and seems like a sort of POV-pushing, because now this redirect could show up in search results. We don't need redirects like "4chan (far-right website)" or "Tumblr (left-wing website)". Simply searching for "X (website)" will be enough. Kk.urban (talk) 01:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The article does not need to describe X as a far-right website. All that matters is that there are reliable sources that describe it as such. If there are reliable sources that refer to X as a far-right website, then "X (far-right website)" is not an implausible search term, even if it is non-neutral. Binnenstaat (talk) 16:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes it would need to. Not only does the link provided not describe the website as "far right", or even "right leaning", but it doesn't refer to anything as being "to the right" of anything else anywhere. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:10, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above Okmrman (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Implausible search term; opening the door to redirects which make commentary on the subject's political views without good reason seems like a bad idea. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Article doesn't support the claim that X is a far-right website, even if popular among the far-right. X (website) is already a sufficient redirect for WP:RPURPOSE. Recommend WP:SNOWCLOSE. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 16:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is also problematic to label it as such in the title, akin to (but lesser of a problem than) a nasty redirect to a person. It's filled with far-right people, but it shouldn't be in the disambiguator. SWinxy (talk) 19:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete utterly pointless redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as per KK Urban and Utopes. While, as per WP:RNEUTRAL, neutrality is not as much of a concern with redirects, that is not an argument to keep every non-neutral redirect ever-- the argument against misuse of WP:UNCENSORED given in WP:UPPERCASE applies here, too. Given the implausibility of the redirect noted plenty of times in this discussion and the existence of much more plausible redirects, I don't see the usefulness of the redirect outweighing the harm it could cause. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article speaks for itself. Not a single mention of "far-right" in the lead section. HarukaAmaranth  <b style="color:#F34E6B">春</b><b style="color:#F34E6B">香</b> 12:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Blatant POV, since there's no broad consensus that Twitter is a "far-right" website. Beefaloe (formerly SpursySituation) (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Non-binary lesbian
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Non-binary lesbian → Category:Non-binary lesbians (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think that having an article redirect go to a category is what people expect Mason (talk) 21:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete: Per nominator. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unnecessary WP:CNR. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 10:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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New changes
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * New changes → Special:RecentChanges (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think a redirect from main space to a special page is useful for our readers and the page title is so ambiguous that it isn't clear at all that it pertains to the editing process on the project. There is already a link in the left-hand side menu and editors who watch recent changes know where to find this page. Readers who have nothing to do with editing are more likely to think that "New changes" pertains to something going on in the world. I also think we need to be careful with redirects that point outside the main space of the project. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Recent changes is not called this. Otherwise Retarget to Wiki to match recent changes * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:09, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wiki per Pppery as a likely alternative but I'm fine with deletion as it may be a but vague.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, lots of things have new changes, wiki edits aren't the only. Too vague to capture at a single target, Wiki seems too niche of usage and isn't called "New changes" either. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 01:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete could refer to anything, such as a changelog, etc -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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The Face (TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  23:44, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Face (TV series)">The Face (TV series) → The Face (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Article recently moved per RM. Should be retargeted to dabpage at Face (disambiguation); insufficient disambiguation. An editor at the RM was in favour of keeping this redirect to The Face (franchise), posting here for a consensus. 162 etc. (talk) 17:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep the only television series with this name are part of the franchise so the franchise page acts as an informal disambiguation page * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 17:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * But Face (disambiguation) is an actual disambiguation page. 162 etc. (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as is per Pppery. The only television series called "The Face" are ones part of the same franchise, so anyone looking for "The Face (TV series)" should be brought directly to the franchise article rather than a disambiguation entry with the same listings. That is how we can best guide our readers, rather than making them go a roundabout way to navigate to what they were searching for from the get go. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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Dora Romano
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Dora Romano → Immaculate (2024 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As per WP:RFD, the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject. In addition, the target is capricious as there is no strong[er] association: subject has similar credits in other works, including: The Hand of God (film), The Goddess of Fortune, Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (film), or Mafia Mamma which could be also potential targets on that basis. Asqueladd (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hyundai Ioniq 1
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  14:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hyundai Ioniq 1 → List of Hyundai vehicles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hyundai Ioniq 2 → List of Hyundai vehicles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hyundai Ioniq 3 → List of Hyundai vehicles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hyundai Ioniq 4 → List of Hyundai vehicles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Hyundai Ioniq 8 → List of Hyundai vehicles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Apparent hoaxing; no such vehicles exist and no such vehicles appear at either the target article or in Ioniq. I almost tagged these for G3 but I didn't think the hoaxing was obvious enough. Sable232 (talk) 14:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 01:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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A. A. Abbott
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 14%23A. A. Abbott

Greater Power
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Greater Power → List of Dungeons & Dragons deities (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Vague redirect not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak Refine to List of Dungeons & Dragons deities A quick Google search reveals this, which reveals through a redirect that this is another term for "Greater deities", a term that DOES appear in our target article. (That said, this is only a weak refine; I could probably be convinced to delete instead fairly easily.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not really any mention of it and it's not like Greater Power is a term exclusive to D&D Okmrman (talk) 03:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Refine per Lunamann, as I have added the term to that section as an explicit reference. BOZ (talk) 06:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. My first thought here was religion, but I can't verify what the most common usage is as search results are overwhelmed by adjectival uses for things (e.g. machines) having greater power than something else. Thryduulf (talk) 12:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambiguate this frequently refers to God -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambiguate to mention Higher Power (disambiguation), which to me is the most likely target, plus a see-also link to Great power. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambiguate, Greater Power is by no means a term exclusive to D&D and is often used to refer to actual religion-Samoht27 (talk) 18:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambiguate, better than deletion where there are multiple possible meanings. BD2412  T 02:03, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate - Valid search term, we should provide information on what the searcher is looking for, but the exact target is potentially ambiguous. I expressly do not support deletion, but also agree that the current target is not the best for all users. Fieari (talk) 06:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * After the relist, moved the redirect to a new title Greater Power (Dungeons & Dragons). If this had not already been done, I would have suggested doing that, but as a Move-without-redirect. Delete this while someone can still come up with a Greater power disambig.  Jay  💬 11:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The move seems to be an effort to preserve the history on the redirect, given the newly-minted double-redirect was swiftly turned into a carbon copy of what the old redirect was, including the RfD alert.As an aside, the mentions of how this phrase can refer to actual deities and the mention of the Higher Power (disambiguation) page has swayed me-- Disambiguate as per above. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate Greater Power as a valid search term with different possible meanings and keep Greater Power (Dungeons & Dragons) as a specified such meaning. Daranios (talk) 10:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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The higher power
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Higher Power (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 02:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The higher power → Vince McMahon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Vague redirect not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Delete or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Without explanation this is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to Higher Power (disambiguation). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:06, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the disambiguation page -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to dab. Fieari (talk) 01:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the disambiguation page per those above. BD2412  T 02:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the dab page per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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The greater power
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Greater Power.  closed as disambiguate. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The greater power → Vince McMahon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Vague redirect not mentioned at target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Thoughts on disambiguating? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Without explanation this is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambiguate per the Greater Power result, which if dismabiguated, this should point there, if not, then delete -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to a Greater Power disambiguation page per the above discussion of that phrase. BD2412  T 02:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Greater Power discussion above. Fieari (talk) 06:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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China's under martial law
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Martial law. signed,Rosguill talk 17:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * China's under martial law → We Didn't Start the Fire (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A lyric from We Didn't Start the Fire that is not mentioned at the target. Without a mention, and especially from a song tied with world history and events, this term can very well be used for topics relating to China being under martial law, and is not currently helpful as a redirect to a song where this line is not discussed. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Martial law (as a of Martial law in China) which gives an overview and links to the three more detailed articles. If you know the context of the song then you can infer from what is there that it was referring to the Tiananmen Square protests, which will help some people and more than deletion would. See also my long comment at #British politician sex for background. Thryduulf (talk) 01:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Note the "British politician sex" discussion referenced in my comment above is at Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 22. Thryduulf (talk) 00:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf. A7V2 (talk) 00:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep (or delete, but don't retarget) . The specific wording is unlikely to be sought by readers looking for information outside of the context of the song. While the coverage at the song article was removed following a lot of back-and-forth last year, the redirect is still helpful for people trying to locate the origin of the phrase, even if not mentioned directly. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thinking a bit more about this, there are two groups of readers who'll be looking up such phrases from the lyrics: those coming from the song and wanting to find what real-world event it's referring to, and those coming across references from elsewhere and wondering where they're from. Thryduulf's comment was considering the former, while I was thinking of the latter. Having to choose one over the other is suboptimal, but with the removal from the song article there's no longer a solution that would satisfy both. Considering that Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a lyrics database, I'm leaning more towards delete. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, and don't retarget per Paul. Having a present tense redirect to Martial law#China will be misleading and surprising. Jay  💬 07:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Martial law. Concepts without a mention anywhere should be completely ignored at RfD, so let's disregard the mention in the song lyrics. Then this falls back to Thryduulf's logic. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Martial law. I can totally see people searching this lyric to find the context, so let's give them that context. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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User talk:PrinceofPunjab/Archive 24
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per author request.  ✗  plicit  11:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="User talk:PrinceofPunjab/Archive 24">User talk:PrinceofPunjab/Archive 24 → User talk:PrinceofPunjab/Archive 1 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

wrong page created  PrinceofPunjab  TALK 07:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as the user created it by accident and requests it to be deleted. I have tagged the page with db-g7. Xeroctic (talk) 08:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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Would you like a Jelly Baby?
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Jelly Babies. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Would you like a Jelly Baby?">Would you like a Jelly Baby? → Fourth Doctor (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An R from catchphrase not mentioned at the target article, not a likely search term for the Fourth Doctor. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete. I am EXCEEDINGLY surprised that that catchphrase ISN'T mentioned in the target article, given how ingrained said catchphrase is to the Fourth Doctor's character-- it's as Fourth Doctor as his scarf. If someone were to add it to the article, I don't think I'd support deletion anymore. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 05:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: One more go. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 05:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep R from quote / R from search term / R without mention, the iconic catchphrase from Tom Baker's version. It already appears at wikiquote:Fourth Doctor which is already linked to from our article -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Weak delete per first reply Okmrman (talk) 03:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - I actually think this is a plausible search term for the 4th Doctor. I'm genuinely surprised it isn't mentioned in the article. Fieari (talk) 01:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Jelly Babies where it's explained. I'm not a Whovian, but it sounds wider than the Fourth Doctor. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:03, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. Jay  💬 12:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Tavix. signed,Rosguill talk 17:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Jason Waterfalls
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . There is disagreement as to whether it is actually appropriate to include a mention of this phrase at the target, but at the time of this close it is still at the target. signed,Rosguill talk 17:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Jason Waterfalls → Waterfalls (TLC song) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Nobody named "Jason" is mentioned at the target page of this R from catchphrase redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: One more go. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 05:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - For what it's worth, this is a pretty common/notorious misunderstanding of the songs name/chorus. Sergecross73   msg me  01:38, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * "Chasing" is also not mentioned at the target, which I would've expected Chasing Waterfalls more if anything. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that is surprising. It's part of the chorus and central to the concept of the song, so it seems like it could pretty easily be included. Sergecross73   msg me  01:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 03:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete Mishearing of an unmentioned term is too many errors to keep. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep (But retarget to section.) Where else should someone typing this be taken? All the best: Rich Farmbrough 23:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC).


 * Keep per Rich who has added mention. Jay  💬 12:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment, I've left a comment at the talk page. TL;DR, "Jason Waterfalls", from my point of view, will never be important enough to include on the song page. Generally speaking, true individual lyrics are already rarely important enough to discuss on pages, so much less inaccurate versions. The fact that "some people mishear Jason instead of Chasin" is not noteworthy, else we'd be saying the same thing on any other page any time people get lyrics mixed up and someone posts about it on Twitter. I could be wrong on this next point, but that would make this title the only "Redirect from non-existent lyric" on all of Wikipedia. And for small beans like "maybe the 'ch' sounds like a 'j'", this is not the place I'd think to start that precedent. Utopes (talk / cont) 16:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Gana, Iran
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 05:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Gana, Iran">Gana, Iran → Genai, Iran (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per "also known as Ganā" and people's tendency to drop diacritics. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Pppery. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:11, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Pppery. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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The F-Bomb (movie)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 15%23The F-Bomb (movie)

F-Bomb (documentary)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 15%23F-Bomb (documentary)

F-Bomb (film)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 15%23F-Bomb (film)

The F-Bomb (film)
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F-Bomb (movie)
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The "F" Word (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to F word. signed,Rosguill talk 17:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="The &quot;F&quot; Word (film)">The "F" Word (film) → Fuck (2005 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:RDEL #8 BilledMammal (talk) 03:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to F word * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Agree with Pppery. Jay  💬 04:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Oorum Unavum
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Botad–Ahmedabad line
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 04:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Botad–Ahmedabad line">Botad–Ahmedabad line → Surendranagar–Bhavnagar line (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I created this redirect to replace a piped link in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Botad_Junction_railway_station&oldid=1002597659 (25 Jan 2021) which piped it to Surendranagar–Bhavnagar line. However, that original piping looks questionable, as pointed out above, so in the absence of other information, I agree with deleting the redirect. Colonies Chris (talk) 08:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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The American Dodgeball Association of America
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 15%23The American Dodgeball Association of America