Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 8

February 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 8, 2024.

تکنولوژی
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * تکنولوژی → Technology (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This word means "technology" in Persian, but technology is not particularly Persian. I suggest deletion per WP:FORRED. (As for the page history, this used to be an article in Persian in 2009 but was redirected here, although it would have met CSD A2 had someone noticed that back then.) Duckmather (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FORRED. This is a better job for wikidata's interlanguage linking. - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 01:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FORRED: unnecessary. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 17:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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ඞ
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ṅa (Indic). (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 23:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * ඞ → Sinhala script (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

We actually have a full article about this symbol at Ṅa (Indic), so retarget it there. (The reason I go to RfD instead of boldly doing this myself is that this page has a history of being retargeted to Among Us and back for hopefully-obvious reasons leading to it becoming semi-protected, but I think the meme could be explained at my proposed target to satisfy their desires. Also I'm on an RfD-ing spree so I might as well.) Duckmather (talk) 23:14, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Ṅa (Indic) with Among Us meme explanation per Duckmather. Enix150 (talk) 04:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ṅa (Indic) per 's comment. 🐲 Jo the fire dragon 🐉 (talk&#124;contributions) 14:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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🫨
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk!</b> 23:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="🫨">🫨 → Seizure (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This emoji is called a "shaking face". I initially made it a redirect to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A since there was no good article about shaking, but then Greyzxq retargeted it to Dizziness, followed by BananaBaron retargeting it to Seizure, where it points today. I don't think either of these two targets fits so I maintain that we should retarget it back to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A, but I'd be open to other opinions. Duckmather (talk) 23:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A per nom. The PDFs adding this emoji (such as ) pretty show that at the very least neither seizure nor dizziness are particularly good targets. Skynxnex (talk) 23:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * If you don’t like seizure, then why not just to “emoji” BananaBaron (talk) 23:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget. I don't think redirecting it to Seizure makes sense. I can see logic in returning redirect to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A, but I also agree with BananaBaron that retargeting to Emoji would also make sense. - Dyork (talk) 00:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A. This is the article with the highest likelihood of having a section about "🫨", its meaning, and usage. - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 01:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A per Duckmather since I can't think of a better target. Enix150 (talk) 04:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Age of AI
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15%23Age of AI

Avec
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Avec → Av3k (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This may be surprising to readers because "avec" is a French word meaning "with", and the target article doesn't state that Av3k is also known as "Avec". I suggest deletion (since avec cannot work as a target due to WP:FORRED concerns). Duckmather (talk) 23:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. I think WP:FORRED is the key here. - Dyork (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Channel (geogrephy)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Channel (geogrephy)">Channel (geogrephy) → Channel (geography) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

An implausible(?) typo left over from a series of page moves, so I suggest deletion. Duckmather (talk) 22:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree that the typo is implausible. - Dyork (talk) 00:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: this typo is implausible and it wasn't even a previous title for the actual article. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 06:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it appears to have been here at most for a few months in 2007/2008 and note that Geogrephy doesn't exist.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as the typo makes this an implausible search term. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 17:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Children's Choice Hot Lunch
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Children's Choice Hot Lunch → Lunch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target and I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, so I suggest deletion. Duckmather (talk) 22:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with nom. - Dyork (talk) 00:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: This never seemed to be in the page history, at least not when the redirect was created, and the redirect was only created as a redirect and never had any context of its own nor is there additional context provided from the edit summary upon creation. Given all of this, it should be deleted for lack of context. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 03:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the lack of explanation at the target. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 17:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Data duck
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Data duck → Data science (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at target and doesn't seem to be a real term (even though the history suggests this is a synonym for "data scientist"), so I suggest deletion. Duckmather (talk) 22:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree since there is no mention and I also don't see it in common usage. - Dyork (talk) 00:49, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the lack of explanation at the target. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 17:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia, and Google search results don't educate me as to the connection either (the most prominent hits are a youtube channel and rubber duck versions of Data (Star Trek), which I would not have predicted). Thryduulf (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Data-driven (disambiguation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15%23Data-driven (disambiguation)

April 4, 1968
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15%23April 4, 1968

Dedrick owens
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15%23Dedrick owens

List of Cogs
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 20%23List of Cogs

Jakt
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Jakt → SerenityOS (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A term that is mentioned a good amount of times across Wikipedia, and there looks to be some character or word mentions here and there that this could possibly be targeted to. As for this target, the term "Jakt" is not, and seems to have never been mentioned at the target page, making this a potentially confusing redirect. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * It's not clear from the submission what the proposed disposition for this redirect is. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 04:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've said what I needed to say; it's a confusing redirect, hence I've brought it to RfD to be discussed. As such, I would not support keeping, but I'm hopeful that a discussion and the resulting consensus could lead to new ideas for a better target, if any exist. If not, deleting confusing redirects would be the course of action. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Queen of Hearts 19:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Jakt to my understanding is the language that was born out (and was used to write a portion) of the Serenity OS project, based on this info, I think this redirect makes sense, unless there is a more notable use the word "Jakt". Sohom (talk) 11:38, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the context. Looking up results for "Jakt" firstly show a hunting and archery company using external search engines. Also according to Saab JAS 39 Gripen, "jakt" has the meaning of "air-to-air" in Swedish. It's interesting that it's the language born from SerenityOS, but if that's the case then it means that we have no meaningful information about "Jakt" in that specific context on Wikipedia, as it bears no discussion at the page in question, making it an unhelpful redirect if its a topic that we don't cover. It might be a saveable title if the two are extremely correlated. But with it being a language coming about from SerenityOS, I'm not entirely sure how feasible it would be to work something like that in the article, for the purpose of benefitting people who want to learn about the Jakt language, as they're stuck in a place where their questions don't get answered. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:07, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I don't think a redirect is valuable if it sends you to a page where there is no mention at all about the redirect name. If I have some reason to learn about "Jakt" and I search Wikipedia... and wind up on SerenityOS... then I have no idea why I am on that page. (As Utopes mentioned above.) It seems a good candidate to just delete. - Dyork (talk) 01:04, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. As others have said, Jakt isn't mentioned in the article, and I don't think it currently could be, either. A web search for "SerenityOS Jakt" finds one blog post about Jakt. You can also find two podcasts   about Serenity in general, which I haven't listened to in full, but looking at the chapters it doesn't seem like there could be any more than passing mentions of Jakt – they seem to be mostly about other aspects of the project. <span style="font-weight:normal;background:linear-gradient(90deg,#e40303,#ff8c00,#ffed00,#008026,#004dff,#750787);color:transparent;background-clip:text;-webkit-background-clip:text;">Rummskartoffel  07:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Chengdong Sports Park Stadium
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 * The result of the discussion was Restore  .  Jay  💬 08:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Chengdong Sports Park Stadium → Sichuan Jiuniu F.C. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't think it's even notable enough for a redirect to a former tenant. IDontHaveSkype (talk) 22:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  03:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Restore this revision of the article without prejudice to AfD. The article seems decently sourced and does appear worth restoring. There's also the option of restoring and sending to draftspace, as the article is relatively new and was created last December. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Restore per CycloneYoris. A7V2 (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip
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 * The result of the discussion was Disambiguate without prejudice against a RM  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  00:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → 2023 Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Israel also invaded the Gaza Strip as part of the Six-Day War, the Gaza War (2008–2009), and the 2014 Gaza War. Should be disambiguated. Previous RfD didn't consider the 1967 invasion. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 15:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


 * This is a place for deletion discussions, not for move requests or move reviews. — kashmīrī  <sup style="color:#80f;font-family:'Candara';">TALK  15:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * What? I'm suggesting a change to a redirect; RfD is the proper place for that. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 15:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * OK, my bad, I got mislead by Talk:Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip which should normally be a redirect, yet it isn't. — kashmīrī  <sup style="color:#80f;font-family:'Candara';">TALK  15:29, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Should the page be disambiguated as a hatnote or as a separate disambiguation page? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Awesome Aasim 20:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, seems like best solution as has happened several times. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 17:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep and add a hatnote to a disambig. The invasion that is part of the ongoing conflict is currently the clear primary topic. If that changes in the future we can retarget then, but currently we best serve our readers by taking them to the article they are most likely looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * : WP:ARBECR applies here. As appreciative as I am of some of our IP regulars here at RfD, ArbCom has drawn a bright line, and so non-extendedconfirmed users are asked not to comment. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 06:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Disambiguate per the WP:10YEARTEST. In terms of long-term significance there is no primary topic, and we should avoid recentism in our choice of target. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * We should do whatever best helps the greatest number of readers reach the content they are looking for with the least amount of hassle, which is to take them to the article that is currently the unambiguous primary target. The WP:10YEARTEST is about what to cover in articles and is not relevant to redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 14:02, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Comment - I think this Rfd is no longer applicable because the article itself has been renamed. Per a move discussion on the Talk page, the article is now Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (2023–present). The result is that there are now layers of redirects:


 * Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → 2023 Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (2023–present)


 * We probably need one or both of those redirects to now go away. - Dyork (talk) 01:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see how this makes this redirect no longer applicable. If this keeps pointing to the recent article, it will do so at the current title, but whether it should do that or be disambiguated is still worth debating. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 00:49, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * In thinking a bit more, perhaps the best path is just to delete that redirect in the middle, so that the path is just "Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (2023–present)" and it points to the most current article. (I do also see the potential value of a disambiguation page... but perhaps keep it simple for now.) - Dyork (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Given that the current target was moved to Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (2023–present), I see only two viable options here: either move the target again, to Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (as primary topic), or Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip becomes a disambiguation page. Given the recentness and controversial nature of the target, the first option might be a problem without a RM, so I think then this redirect should be disambiguated and a separate RM discussion started (if desired) to determine whether it's the primary topic. A7V2 (talk) 23:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I have drafted at the redirect with no primary topic. It doesn't stop anyone from starting an RM though. Jay  💬 09:13, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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Puttshack
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 09:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Puttshack → Oakbrook Center (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No clear reason to for the name of a multi location chain to target to one random mall that I can see. Given that an article doesn't yet exist for the company I think this page should be deleted for the time being. EoRdE6(Talk) 18:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The target article doesn't even mention Puttshack (I've not looked to see if it did at the time the redirect was created). Three other articles do mention it: A passing mention at the very end of Westfield Old Orchard, a passing mention in the final paragraph at Southdale Center (which implies it's a restaurant) and a two sentence proseline entry at Natick Mall, but none of these would make a good redirect target. Thryduulf (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. There is a brief mention in the article, but I agree with nom that it makes little sense to have this targeted at this article. - Dyork (talk) 01:17, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I missed that mention when reading the article, and it didn't appear in my search results which is odd. It is possibly the least useful of all the mentions though so it doesn't change my recommendation. Thryduulf (talk) 12:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Create article - Puttshack has many locations in the United States. --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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Al-Khallal
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) Duckmather (talk) 06:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Al-Khallal → Abu Bakr al-Khallal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Left over from sockpuppet page-move vandalism. I don't know if this title is sufficiently concise to identify the target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate: With Abu Salama Hafs ibn Sulayman al-Khallal as well. Seems that that should be sufficient disambiguation. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 18:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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Marcus Procius Cato
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Marcus Porcius Cato. Hey man im josh (talk) 04:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Marcus Procius Cato → Cato the Elder (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unlikely misspelling. ★Trekker (talk) 15:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Marcus Porcius Cato (a dab page) which is the name this is a plausible typo for. Thryduulf (talk) 17:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Marcus Porcius Cato and tag as R from misspelling. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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Marcus Portius Cato
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15%23Marcus Portius Cato

Sir Andrew Murray
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Andrew Murray. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:44, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Sir Andrew Murray → Andrew Murray (soldier) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There are six pages which "Sir Andrew Murray" could apply to: the soldier, the other soldier, the justiciar, the tennis player, the Lord Provost and the minister. The current target was the result of a page move in 2014, and I feel like a more suitable target would be the tennis player Andy Murray. Failing that, maybe redirect to Andrew Murray (disambiguation) CiphriusKane (talk) 15:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Andrew Murray. Since that page is a disambiguation page, I'm not convinced the tennis player is a primary topic here. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Andrew Murray. Clearly no primary topic based on my google results. Thryduulf (talk) 18:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: In terms of |Andrew_Murray_(soldier)|Andrew_Moray|Andrew_Moray_(justiciar)|Andrew_Murray_(Scottish_politician)|Andrew_Murray,_1st_Lord_Balvaird page views, "Andy Murray" receives about 97% of the total of the six names mentioned. Doesn't that indicate a strong primary topic? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * For the name "Andy Murray" certainly they are the primary topic, but what matters here is what proportion of people view that article after following a link from the Andrew Murray disambig. I don't know how many that is, but It's going to be a small portion of the total as he is not commonly known as Andrew. Thryduulf (talk) 04:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Good point. I'd mislaid my bookmark of this link-traffic tool, but if I'm interpreting it correctly, it seems to suggest that "Andrew Murray (minister)" is the most popular outgoing link from "Andrew Murray", followed by "Andy Murray". I'm not sure whether or not that influences this discussion, but it's there. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 19:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Andrew Murray. The disambiguation page makes more sense to me. -Dyork (talk) 01:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Extraterrestrial oceans
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Planetary oceanography. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Extraterrestrial oceans → Ocean (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per "Internal ocean", "Planetary oceanography" seems like the best current target for this redirect. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 13:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed. EMsmile (talk) 13:57, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 14:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Planetary oceanography per nom. - Dyork (talk) 01:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Internal ocean
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Planetary oceanography. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Internal ocean → Ocean (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Internal ocean" currently redirects to a deleted section of "Ocean". "Planetary oceanography" seems to be the best current target. Any thoughts? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. — kwami (talk) 10:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Also consider a hatnote to the Inland Sea disambiguation page. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget... although I'm not 100% sure about Planetary oceanography. I definitely agree it needs to be retargeted from its current nonexistent section. But when you go to Planetary oceanography, it's not really clear that an "internal ocean" is a thing. There are a couple of minor mentions, but that is it. So if I am looking to learn about what an "internal ocean" is, I won't really get that from Planetary oceanography. I can't find a better suggestion, though. -Dyork (talk) 01:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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The Holohoax
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15%23The Holohoax

RCTA
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  00:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * RCTA → Transracial (identity) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Search results look like a mix of "Race change to another" meaning, and "Rear cross traffic alert". I expect anyone searching for the latter to be very confused by this result, and I'm not sure the transracial meaning is well-enough established to merit a disambig page. Not sure if the right action is to delete, retarget, or disambiguate, but the current option seems clearly wrong. Rusalkii (talk) 22:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Awesome Aasim 20:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 02:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate for the Robotics Collaborative Technology Alliance (seems to use the form R-CTA, but should be included per WP:DABCOMBINE), Redwood Coast Transit Authority, and rear cross traffic alert (mentioned at advanced driver-assistance system). Google Books and Scholar hits are mostly about "recombinant cholera toxin alpha" and "restricted controlled tabular adjustment", neither of which are mentioned anywhere in Wikipedia. Most of the Google News hits about the current target are from a few months mid-last-year when it was trending on Tiktok ; I doubt it has the long-term significance to be WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT even if someone uses those sources to add discussion of it at the current target (though of course if it is added, it could be mentioned at the dab page). I have no particular objection to deleting and showing search results either. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 06:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom and IP and defer to search results. Jay  💬 09:18, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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Nazism in relation to other concepts
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Nazism.  Jay  💬 09:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Nazism in relation to other concepts → Fascism and ideology (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'm thinking the fact that the target article is not Nazism or about a subtopic with "Nazism" in its title, I'm thinking this redirect targeting this target is misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Refine or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * (weak) Refine to Fascism and ideology where there is relevant content. Admittedly, this seems to be an unlikely search term. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Nazism instead. The section Fascism and ideology only discusses the relationship between fascism and other concepts, not necessarily that of Nazism itself, whereas my suggestion directly directly how Nazism relates to other concepts as an ideology in and of itself. Duckmather (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Nazism per Duckmather. Thryduulf (talk) 13:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete or weak retarget. There are no links to the redirect in question in the article namespace, and I agree that it's unlikely to be searched for. Retargeting also makes sense in this specific context, as Nazism happens to be more responsive to the redirect title (per User:Duckmather). - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 02:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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Dependencies and other territories
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 17%23Dependencies and other territories

Wikipedia:)(
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 09:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wikipedia:)(">)( → Wikipedia:Manual of Style (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect may cause confusion (D2), especially for newer editors who are apt to interpret it as a smiley rather than a MOS guideline, and it will also produce warnings in some editors about unbalanced parentheses. The redirect also makes little sense (D5) because it directs users to a title with symbols that do not convey meaningful information or context. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't buy it. These symbols do convey information, of being brackets which are discussed at the target. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Coming to an edit near you: . That is far less informative than using MOS:PAREN. It's absurdly unclear in a log message as people use them. It's not even in the appropriate pseudo-namespace, MOS. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Edit summaries are not the only reason for shortcuts to exist, and there is no restriction on WP: shortcuts pointing to the manual of style. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a memorable shortcut, which is generally the point of redirects in the WP namespace. It's not very likely that somebody would type "WP:)(" and link it if they only meant a smiley face, and the fact that it would be linked would generally indicate that something is meant by it. - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 02:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems like a perfectly logical way for people to find the page, and given that it's in the project namespace it's completely harmless. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Although I don't really like these shortcuts that inevitably turn into jargon, if there must be a shortcut, purely from a stylistic point of view I prefer the pre-existing, as it keeps the opening and closing parentheses balanced. Having the count balanced will presumably help avoid some bugs in quick-and-dirty wikitext-parsing logic. isaacl (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, I guess. It's a slight variant of WP: which serves the same purpose, getting to our style material on use of parentheses/round-brackets, which seem like entirely reasonable shortcuts. Maybe not frequently used, but not in mainspace, so extra-cheap. There's nothing misleading about them. "This redirect may cause confusion" just seems to be an unsupported assertion. Even if "newer editors ... are apt to interpret it as a smiley", so what? There is no "smiley guideline" to which this would be better redirected. The closest we have is Emoticons which is just an information page essay of no importance to anyone and not something for which shortcuts should be usurped.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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