Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 1

January 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 1, 2024.

Is
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget.


 * Retarget Is to IS
 * Retarget To be to To Be (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Is → Copula (linguistics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * To be → Copula (linguistics) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to dabs IS and To Be; few other dictionary words get this kind of treatment. Hameltion (talk &#124; contribs) 23:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom. Veverve (talk) 22:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, don't retarget, contra the nom and Veverve. A hatnote will suffice anyways, and most uses of "is" and "to be" in running prose are in accordance with the dicdef anyways. Duckmather (talk) 04:12, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. The goal here is to assess what readers may be looking for if these phrases are linked or searched for in encyclopedic context, and that is an unknown per WP:NOTDICT, so retargeting to the respective disambiguation pages should best serve our readers. Steel1943  (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Siamese Influenced to Khmer traditional clothing
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD.  Thryduulf (talk) 01:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Siamese Influenced to Khmer traditional clothing → Khmer traditional clothing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect was made by GixxGle in order to move the page Khmer traditional clothing to this one (the user did move the article but it has seen been reverted). This user has repeatedly vandalised the page by deleting contents that are generally subject to heated debates on social media between Khmer and Thai. With this move, he attempted once again to vandalise the page by bringing nationalistic Siamese/Thai discourse onto Wikipedia despite receiving a warning on his user talk, he has since been blocked. The title of the redirect is abusive as it is a blatant attempt to rebrand a whole article on Khmer clothing as Siamese/Thai. Pierrevang3 (talk) 20:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: Tagged for speedy deletion under criterion G3 as a redirect left behind from page-move vandalism. CycloneYoris talk! 21:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

The Beast (car)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to The Beast. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="The Beast (car)">The Beast (car) → Rolls-Royce Merlin alternative uses (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Retarget to disambiguation page section. The redirect name is WP:INCOMPLETEDAB. The Presidential state car (United States) is also referred to as "The Beast". There is also an Aero-engined car called "The Beast of Turin". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 13:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 20:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Presidential state car (United States) as the primary topic. Hatnote to Rolls-Royce Merlin alternative uses. "The Beast of Turin" is a partial match and not a disambig candidate unless it is referred to as the The Beast without the "Turin" qualifier. Jay  💬 15:32, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * retarget to The Beast (disambiguation), as R from partial disambiguation -- both are already mentioned there. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 01:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to The Beast (the relevant section of the disambiguation page). The presidential car is only slightly more prominent in search results than the Rolls Royce-engined vehicle, with a rough 60%-40% split on the first two pages. Especially when there is an existing, broader dab page to target, that's not enough for a primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Beast since they are already both in there -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers
<span id="Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers (LACV)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 9%23Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers

Athletics at the 1987 World Championships in Atheltics
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Complex / Rational  14:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Athletics at the 1987 World Championships in Atheltics → 1987 World Championships in Athletics (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not used, self-redundant and misspelt - not a credible redirect. Colonies Chris (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I'm surprised this has existed since 2010 without being noticed before now! Thryduulf (talk) 01:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above; useless redirect. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Permission error
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 19:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Permission error → Error message (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The title "Bad title" is salted to prevent creation, and it's the title of any error page when a user tries to visit something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%7C. This title, Permission error, is the error title when the user tries to create a page where they don't have permission to create it, or the user is blocked from editing. Before the redirect was created, earlier page history shows that the page was made to mimic an error page/block notice then got nominated for speedy deletion. Only one particular "permission error" I can see listed on the page is "Access denied", another one not listed on the page is HTTP 403 Forbidden. Should this redirect still be kept seeing as that, like Bad title, is the title of an error page on this wiki? 1033Forest (talk) 15:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Notifying WP:VPT, who may have technical knowledge about this. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 08:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete The technical reasons given above are not convincing. What's more important here is general RfD principles, which say that this specific term is not discussed with sufficient substance at the target to warrant a redirect. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 15:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt as per 1033Forest. Veverve (talk) 22:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

SC-44
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)


 * SC-44 → USS SC-44 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Current target is no longer the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC since the introduction of the SC-44 diesel locomotive (a version of the Siemens Charger) on various passenger railroads in the US. I would either change the target of the redirect to the article about the locomotive or turn the page into a disambiguation page. Andumé (talk) 06:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Good catch on the locomotive. I converted the redirect into a disambiguation page. Now Wikipedia users can more easily find whichever meaning they are searching for.Mdnavman (talk) 15:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)mdnavman


 * Disambiguate per the already performed dabbing -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Local pride
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 8%23Local pride

College of Liberal & Creative Arts
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Complex / Rational  04:19, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="College of Liberal & Creative Arts">College of Liberal & Creative Arts → SFSU College of Liberal & Creative Arts (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect feels too vague to be useful. Yes, SFSU has a College of Liberal & Creative Arts, but so do others universities. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I intended to create a page for SFSU's College of Liberal & Creative Arts. The page I created was titled "College of Liberal & Creative Arts" and I was trying to rename it to "SFSU College of Liberal & Creative Arts." Mariwlqs (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per proposal as non-defining/unhelpful. Respublik (talk) 18:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 22:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).