Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 14

January 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 14, 2024.

Gunahon Ka Devta(1990 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . --  Tamzin  &#91;cetacean needed&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Gunahon Ka Devta(1990 film) → Gunahon Ka Devta (1990 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Gunahon Ka Devta (1990 film), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I'm starting to think a new speedy deletion criterion may again be needed... InfiniteNexus (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * IIRC it was discussed previously and determined that it wasn't frequent enough. Thryduulf (talk) 10:55, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * . InfiniteNexus (talk) 08:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it was at this title for a few hours in 2010.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB/as an implausible search term. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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Bell Bottom(2021 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . --  Tamzin  &#91;cetacean needed&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Bell Bottom(2021 film) → Bell Bottom (2021 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Bell Bottom (2021 film), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * delete due to malformed modifier -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it was at this title for less than an hour in 2020.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB/as an implausible search term. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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Kurt Villani
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  without prejudice against recreation if a mention is restored. --  Tamzin  &#91;cetacean needed&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Kurt Villani → Rainbow Bridge (Niagara Falls) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Monica Villani → Rainbow Bridge (Niagara Falls) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Following this edit by, Kurt and Monica Villani are no longer mentioned in the article. I don't know whether or not they should be, but so long as they are not mentioned these redirects should be deleted. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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Ant-Man (2010)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ant-Man (2010)">Ant-Man (2010) → Ant-Man (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ant-Man(2010)">Ant-Man(2010) → Ant-Man (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no information regarding any "Ant-Man" subjects which are connected or tied to the year 2010, leaving it unclear what these redirects are meant to refer to. (Also, Ant-Man (2010) had content for 5 days in 2008 before being subject to a WP:BLAR, and Ant-Man(2010) has an WP:RDAB failure due to no space between the title and the disambiguator.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete 2nd as it was there for a few hours in 2008, no comment on 1st.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Ant-Man(2010) due to malformed modifier. Delete Ant-Man (2010) since there are no works with that title in the 2010. There was an Ant Man and the Wasp comics in 2010 but that's a partial title match. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete both: per WP:RDAB for the second and as an implausible search term for the first. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:51, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hoot Gipson
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hoot Gipson → Thomas Z. Gipson (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in text, can't find any evidence that he was called this, search is finding a mix of other Hoot Gpisons. Rusalkii (talk) 19:14, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep I've added a mention to the article. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Presidentman. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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Confucius Says
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 21%23Confucius Says

Something of Samoa
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Something of Samoa → Margaret Mead (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

What is this, a scent that Margaret Mead sold or something? I see no evidence that "Something of Samoa" is a thing: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22something+of+samoa%22+%22Margaret+mead%22&ia=web ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The closest connection I can find is that 'Something of Samoa' is a book by Gavin Young, and it is featured on this same Goodreads list as Coming of Age in Samoa as Margaret Mead. Delete. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 17:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The Gavin Young book found by Cremastra appears to be an abridgement of his book Slow Boats Home, and is not even mentioned in his article. There doesn't seem to be much reason to retarget there; delete Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 09:25, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Project South (Italy)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 13:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Project South (Italy)">Project South (Italy) → Great South (Italy) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is unclear why this redirects here: there's no mention in the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep It is now mentioned in the article with references. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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Maximum Football (2023 video game)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  .  Jay  💬 05:16, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Maximum Football (2023 video game)">Maximum Football (2023 video game) → Maximum Football (2024 video game) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This game appears to still be an upcoming title, and has not released in 2023 according to the sources that I could find. Thus, this redirect is factually inaccurate and I would recommend its deletion. The redirect Maximum Football (2024 video game) is also not supported by sources as a windowed release per a recent RM, and I would recommend its deletion as well (though the page can be moved to the 2024 title if it is indeed released this year)  The Night Watch     (talk)   18:58, 6 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This isn't like Legend of Zelda which is notable for even preannouncement and being a sure thing. Somebody's WP:CRYSTALBALL was wrong about the year. How much more wrong can anything get? This should never have been created, but rather "(upcoming)".— Smuckola(talk) 19:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't see the need to delete it. R from moves are generally kept unless problematic. Does it cause confusion? Nobody has to see it unless they search for this, and if they do they'd unambiguously be looking for this game, which the article's references show being mentioned as Maximum Football 2023 and Maximum Football 23. Just add R from incorrect disambiguation. <small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust 💬 20:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - It would be one thing if when the game will come out is a total mystery, with the product being totally obscure, but a 2024 release appears at least somewhat set in stone (that date being mentioned on websites such as this one). I'm inclined to leave the redirect be given the lack of harm. I'll mention that redirects don't have to be strictly accurate to be of use in some cases. — CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 12:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  Jay  💬 05:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center)">Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) → PARC (company) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

It is nonsensically redundant to the Xerox PARC redirect, as is this new user's compulsion, and other such redirects have already been deleted as misuse of a redirect. The rationale in the rejecting edit summary makes no sense at all either. Both misunderstand the purpose of redirects. You don't test them by dumping an arbitrary text into Google and mindlessly reading the fallacious number of alleged results. This redirect does not aid the Wikipedia search engine or any user in any way. Nobody would ever type this string of text into a computer. — Smuckola(talk) 12:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:15, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Respublik (talk) 17:19, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, per the declination edit summary. This string turns up over 10,000 times when I search online (to my surprise, admittedly). More specific forms of article titles are allowed. Sdrqaz (talk) 23:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I said, which I debunked. You just repeated the problem. Both "Xerox PARC" and "Palo Alto Research Center" are two of the most famous and unique terms in history. That's not a valid way to even test the keyword sets within a search; you don't put *two* sets of keywords in. This is not how redirects or search engines work. There is no such thing as a wikilink to this whole mess of a fake name, and the search engine would find it anyway. Also, you wrongly citedWP:RPURPOSE because this situation does not appear there at all, and I don't know how you thought it was relevant. Again, not that it matters at all because the search engine works anyway. — Smuckola(talk) 07:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per Sdrqaz. Smuckola has not debunked anything, the exact term is used in countless sources, e.g. Computer Graphics and Computer Animation: A Retrospective Overview (Ohio State University), When Silicon Valley Embraced The Arts: Lessons From PAIR At Xerox PARC (Forbes), Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center: Getting Inventions to the Market (IBS Case Development Centre), Xerox Alto (Computer History Museum), Research in Support of Digital Libraries at Xerox PARC (D-lib magazine), How the PC Really Came to Be (ILLUMINATION-curated), and many more. Thryduulf (talk) 22:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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Μa
<span id="Μa"> <span id="Μb"> <span id="Μh"> <span id="ΜS"> <span id="Μt"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 21%23Μa

Doctor Impossible
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 21%23Doctor Impossible

Michael Vogt
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 * The result of the discussion was replace with Michael Vogt (bobsledder)  as presumptive primary topic. A skim of Special:Search/~"Michael Vogt" suggests there is not currently enough material about other Michaels Vogt for a DAB, but per WP:PRIMARYRED, so if someone does find room for a DAB, feel free to BOLDly move this back and create a DAB page. --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Michael Vogt → Synaptic (software) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recommending deletion, as many potentially notable people share this particular name, but none have their own Wikipedia article, and there is currently a Swiss bobsledder in Wikidata and other parts of Wikipedia who is often erroneously linked to a software page they most likely have nothing to do with (per past commenters as well as a quick "What links here" check, which also turns up a tuba player with this name). Cielquiparle (talk) 05:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * In fact, you'll see that this Redirect page is currently linked to six other non-English Wikipedia articles about people named "Michael Vogt" (primarily the Swiss bobsledder), and German Wikipedia has a disambiguation page listing several potentially notable people with the same name (including two who currently have articles who are not the software developer): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Vogt Cielquiparle (talk) 05:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * As the bobsledder has now got an article on the English Wikipedia he should be moved here. Inwind (talk) 06:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Nice work @Marcinho1911. Great that redirecting to Michael Vogt (bobsledder) is now an option...but why not simply move Michael Vogt (bobsledder) to Michael Vogt instead? In any case, it may be worth keeping this discussion open for a full week or so to see if any Michael Vogt articles pop up in the meantime, which might further change the outcome of this discussion. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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