Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 24

January 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 24, 2024.

Jakt
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23Jakt

Kaiji （Limited express）
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Kaiji （Limited express） → Kaiji (train) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Page created with implausible characters in title and no meaningful content in its 3-edit history. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT due to the nonstandard brackets. Steel1943  (talk) 00:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it was an article for a few days in 2007 and doesn't appear to contain any useful history.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT as an implausible search term due to the brackets. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 11:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, too many errors. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete non-English parentheses. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Wilfred Wood（Bishop）
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Wilfred Wood（Bishop） → Wilfred Wood (bishop) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wilfred Wood（bishop） → Wilfred Wood (bishop) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Sockmaster who created these redirects for reasons unknown, implausible use of full-width parentheses characters regardless. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:MIXEDSCRIPT due to the nonstandard brackets. Steel1943  (talk) 00:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete although they have existed since 2021 they have always been redirects.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all as an implausible search term due to the WP:MIXEDSCRIPT brackets. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 11:16, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete non-English parentheses. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Chengdong Sports Park Stadium
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23Chengdong Sports Park Stadium

Canada-Mexico-United States of America 2026 (Association football event)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23Canada-Mexico-United States of America 2026 (Association football event)

Canada-Mexico-United States 2026
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 * The result of the discussion was nomination withdrawn  . I can accept I may have been off the mark with this one. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Canada-Mexico-United States 2026 → 2026 FIFA World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Canada-Mexico-United States of America 2026 → 2026 FIFA World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Canada-Mexico-USA 2026 → 2026 FIFA World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement has a mandated six-year review that's scheduled for 2026 (Sunset clause section mentions this, but not explicitly the year). This, to me at least, was the expected result when I originally saw the redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Josh's apparent expectation seems so implausible (who searches for one of the periodic reviews of new NAFTA, let along expects it to exist, let alone to have its own dedicated redirect) that I have to believe he's simply made it up to try and add weight to his proposal that people might be searching for something else. Meanwhile, he is adamant on deleting every sports redirect on sight despite surely by now recognising these redirects are so widespread exactly because everybody (else) uses such names. Kingsif (talk) 23:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. Abhiramakella (talk) 16:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Canada-Mexico-USA 2026 My searches show several uses of this phrase to refer to the World Cup. I'm not finding as many for the other two, so I will remain neutral on those. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle → 2022 Peach Bowl (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Right (in general—i.e. something which can be trivially resolved and doesn't merit a comparatively heavyweight response, which is why "not mentioned at the target" is such a poor reason to initiate RFD). The reality is that it's clear as-is upon reading the relevant article why the redirect is in place and doesn't even call for a character-for-character match of the name of the redirect at some place in the article text. I suspect the RFD arose from either not reading the article or, having read it, understood why the redirect is in place, but deciding to submit it to RFD anyway. "So it's okay for you to say, looks like a bad faith RFD (wikigaming), which is an aspersion about a person" Wrong. If you are involved in an accident and I am questioned when the police arrive or testify in court and in response to being asked what I witnessed leading up to the accident I state that it looked like the parties were engaged in streetracing before losing control and colliding, that's not casting aspersions (even if it does incidentally have personal consequences). It is a 100% subject-focused response. (Likewise, there's a distinction between my remarks and what you're doing here, for example.) So please, let's focus on subject that is the topic of this RFD and stick to merit-based arguments. If they are tangent to acts by persons, fine, but lets not go on tangents about persons. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 11:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Looks like a bad faith RFD (wikigaming); the redirect is self-evidently useful and no reason listed at WP:RFD applies. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 04:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * From what I know about Josh, I can guarantee you that this was not a bad faith nomination and I encourage you to withdraw that claim. "Not mentioned at the target article" is a very common rationale for deletion at RfD, and it comes down to a fundamental policy: WP:V. If this is indeed a common term used to describe the 2022 Peach Bowl, then this claim should be mentioned and sourced in that article in order to verify the redirect. If that cannot be done, then the redirect should be deleted. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This is, in fact, a common term. Here is one evidence that Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle does indeed refer to the 2022 Peach Bowl: https://thetouchdown.co.uk/georgia-football-a-new-years-miracle/ Abhiramakella (talk) 16:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please stick to the subject instead of making this about persons. On the subject:
 * This is a redirect, not a proposal for article title. WP:COMMONNAME etc. doesn't apply.
 * I acknowledge that "Not mentioned at the target article" is erroneously mentioned often (too often, actually). It is nonetheless not a sufficient reason to delete a redirect. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 16:26, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * So it's okay for you to say, looks like a bad faith RFD (wikigaming), which is an aspersion about a person (namely, Hey man im josh). When I call you out on it, you insist to stick to the subject instead of making this about persons. Do you not see the hypocrisy there? Withdraw your aspersion and it won't have to be about persons. I'm also not sure why you mentioned that WP:COMMONNAME doesn't apply; it does not appear that anyone is trying to use it (and no, using the informal phrase 'common term' does not invoke WP:COMMONNAME precisely because this isn't an WP:RM). For what it's worth, I've stricken my use of 'common', it is not needed to make my point. The best way to combat "not mentioned at the target" is to fix the issue and mention it in the target, which will then resolve the potential WP:V violation (I'm using 'potential' because sources have since been found in this example). -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * "The best way to combat "not mentioned at the target" is to fix the issue and mention it in the target"
 * That analogy is not at all relevant. Bottom line: you falsely accused the nominator of bad faith in an attempt to poison the well, so you don't get to plead to "focus on the subject" when it was you who made it about the person. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @C. A. Russell: Please withdraw the claim about this being a bad faith RFD / wikigaming. It's fine to disagree with the "not mentioned at target rationale", but it's not okay to cast aspersions. Redirects are, quite often, deleted because they are not mentioned at the target. As Tavix mentioned, this comes down to a verifiability issue. If the nickname is relevant (and a possible search term) then a variation of it should be mentioned in some capacity in the article at least once. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Verifiability and appearance within the article text are completely orthogonal.
 * "Redirects are, quite often, deleted because they are not mentioned at the target."


 * Sure—in error. Procedural errors happen.  All the time—in real world criminal trials, even, for example.  Normalization of deviance is not the same thing as legitimization of deviance.  Your arguments need to be rooted and stand on the merits.  The notion that this happens all the time is something that somehow trumps proper RFD and obviates the need to provide a solid justification for deletions, especially when pressed on it, is a vacuous tactic on par with weasel words and citeogenesis.
 * "If the nickname is relevant (and a possible search term) then a variation of it should be mentioned in some capacity in the article at least once."


 * If "not mentioned at target article" rationale is sufficient for deletion, the relevant policy docs and guidelines need to be updated to say so. As it stands, RFD hobbyists forming quorums and deleting redirects on those grounds alone are operating in contravention of policy (and good sense)—yes, even if they've done so a lot.  The fact that no one is watching and/or doesn't feel it worth the battle to hold folks to account doesn't change that.
 * I'm not going to address a third time the attempt to force the focus on persons. Please stop. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 04:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @C. A. Russell: I ask you against, withdraw the obviously inappropriate aspersions that you've casted. They've out of the blue, inappropriate, and entirely unsubstantiated. An experienced user such as yourself absolutely knows better and this comes across as personal when you make these types of statements. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak delete I did find at least one mention of the term "Midnight Miracle" on its own in a RS:, but the exact phrasing from this redirect seems unlikely. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V, attestation as a name for this event has not been verified with a sourced mention at the article. I let this one ride for a bit because I was hopeful a mention could be added, but I no longer enjoy that optimism. -- Tavix ( talk ) 05:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's a strawman. Attestation that "Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle" is another name for the 2022 Peach Bowl is completely absent from this discussion. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 05:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There's no strawman, they voted based on it not being mentioned at the target. That's reasonable and normal. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:18, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * User:Tavix wrote "attestation as a name for this event has not been verified with a sourced mention at the article". There are several problems with that statement, but the most basic being that the only way for it to even be conversationally relevant is if there were someone presently arguing that "[Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle is] a name for this event [i.e. 2022 Peach bowl]".  But there isn't anyone arguing that.  That's what makes it a strawman. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 01:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix et al. No evidence that "Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle" is a phrase which is ever used. "Midnight Miracle"  been used to refer to this game (among many other things!) but the phrase is not used at the target and the specific search term "Georgia Bulldogs' Midnight Miracle" seems implausible. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 10:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete not mentioned in the article, not a plausible search term. This redirect is worthless. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 22:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Azerbaijan-Denmark-England-Germany-Hungary-Italy-Netherlands-Romania-Russia-Scotland-Spain 2020
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Azerbaijan-Denmark-England-Germany-Hungary-Italy-Netherlands-Romania-Russia-Scotland-Spain 2020 → UEFA Euro 2020 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Azerbaijan-Denmark-England-Germany-Hungary-Italy-Netherlands-Romania-Russia-Scotland-Spain 2020 (Association football event)">Azerbaijan-Denmark-England-Germany-Hungary-Italy-Netherlands-Romania-Russia-Scotland-Spain 2020 (Association football event) → UEFA Euro 2020 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: ' ]  Added. -- T'''avix  ( talk ) 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Unlikely search term, doesn't seem like a helpful redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:12, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Based on how unlikely if not impossible it is that people will type even something close to that. Euro 2020 or England 2020 (most matches) are far more likely. Kingsif (talk) 23:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You may not like it; I don't like it either, too, however, this is actually listing the countries that have hosted the Euro 2020. I think it is best to keep it. Abhiramakella (talk) 17:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you don't like something, I recommend you not create a redirect on it. Delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete as I can't see someone reasonably typing this, looking for the target. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I've bundled one other redirect of this type that was subsequently created, this time with a disambiguator. Given the implausibility of the non-dabbed redirect, this one is even worse. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely implausible. At least this is in alphabetical order, so it's not completely arbitrary, but there are nearly 40 million possible permutations of this title! Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 10:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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France 2024 (Olympics)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23France 2024 (Olympics)

Ah-ah-ah!
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Ah-ah-ah!">Ah-ah-ah! → Immigrant Song (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. No mention at target article. Fails Google test. 162 etc. (talk) 20:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. While this is a lyric in the song, it's far too ambiguous to be a useful search term. Thryduulf (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague at best. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete-te-te! per nom. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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CountryName Year redirects to events
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Argentina 2030 → 2030 FIFA World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Dominican Republic 2024 → 2024 FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Italy 2026 → 2026 Winter Olympics (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Qatar 2016 → 2016 AFC U-23 Championship (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Qatar 2024 → 2024 AFC U-23 Asian Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Saudi Arabia 2026 → 2026 AFC U-23 Asian Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Saudi Arabia 2027 → 2027 AFC Asian Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Saudi Arabia 2034 → 2034 FIFA World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Switzerland 2025 → UEFA Women's Euro 2025 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * United States 2025 → 2025 FIFA Club World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * United States 2028 → 2028 Summer Olympics (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These titles are not unambiguously associated with the target events and would be more useful if redirected to YYYY in CountryName. However, in these cases, the YYYY in CountryName articles do not exist yet. Proposing that these are deleted until the year lists are created. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per josh. Yoblyblob (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as future events, but completely supportive of them being recreated to the same target articles when the events do take place. Major sports tournaments are known by such names, moreso than by their full names, period. Kingsif (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete for now, there could be suitable articles on the future. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 11:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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France 2023 (Rugby event)
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 * The result of the discussion was nomination withdrawn  . Hey man im josh (talk) 14:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="France 2023 (Rugby event)">France 2023 (Rugby event) → 2023 Rugby World Cup (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too ambiguous to be a useful search term. Other possible targets may be included under Category:2023 in French rugby league, Category:2022–23 in French rugby union, and Category:2023–24 in French rugby union. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Josh, I think you might be the one person who has managed to go through life without seeing major sports tournaments called "Country Year" en masse, please stop nominating all these valid and useful redirects. Kingsif (talk) 23:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kingsif: It's fine to disagree with me, but I think it's inappropriate of you to ask me to stop nominating redirects which I don't believe are useful. I have quite the extensive history in reviewing redirects and this week was the first time I came across redirects like this. I still very much believe it's ambiguous and unhelpful.ese are entirely appropriate nominations and I stand by my statement that they're ambiguous and unhelpful. I reviewed tens of thousands of redirects last year alone, participated in RfD discussions, and closed discussions at RfD and have yet to come across redirects in these style. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it's because I have come to RfD and seen in just today's log that it's all you nominating all of these, and with every new nom I found it more unbelievable, sorry about the first part of my comment being dismissive. However, I stand by the view that you shouldn't be nominating these - and certainly not so many at once.
 * I'll take you at your word that you've never seen such common names for sports tournaments before, but if you have such an extensive track record in assessing redirects, do you not have the experience that if there are lots of identically-formatted redirects for similar events that's probably because it is what it looks like: common parlance. Kingsif (talk) 23:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Since the logo refers to the event as "France 2023," this does not seem like an unlikely search term to me. I would imagine it would be the primary topic as well. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing that aspect of it out to me @Presidentman, I'll be withdrawing this nom based on that. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Football Team (NFL Team)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:13, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Football Team (NFL Team)">Football Team (NFL Team) → Washington Commanders (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't believe this is a helpful search term, despite the Washington Commanders briefly being named the Washington Football Team. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: I agree with you. I tend to think that anyone who might be inclined to use some form of "Football Team" to refer to the franchise would probably use the abbreviation "WFT," which was popular and common. Pretty much nobody ever used "Football Team" by itself because, notwithstanding the result of an RfC on Wikipedia regarding a grammar issue, just about nobody ever viewed those two words taken in isolation as the team's name. (That is, "Washington Football Team," sure. Just plain "Football Team," no—for example, nobody ever said "the Football Team and the Cowboys play twice every season." 1995hoo (talk) 19:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete All NFL teams are, by definition, "Football Teams." - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 23:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Raiders (NFL Team) (2020-present)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23Raiders (NFL Team) (2020-present)

England YYYY (Association football event) redirects
<span id="England 2022 (Association football event)"> <span id="England 2021 (Association football event)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 2%23England YYYY (Association football event) redirects

Hitler's cuisine
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23Hitler's cuisine

Butera (City)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23Butera (City)

Sheinhardt Wig Company
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 2%23Sheinhardt Wig Company

Draft:Infamous PR
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 * The result of the discussion was revert move  . (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 04:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Draft:Infamous PR → User:Editing84/sandbox2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I had to move this article that was in draft space, into my user sandbox- to try and solve an ongoing issue with google having indexed the talk page of the draft- which obviously should not have happened, but it's been appearing in google search results for possibly a long time now. Apologies I can't link to the teahouse discussion when I previously raised this (as it's been archived now), but another editor kindly submitted a 'refresh search results' request to google, in the hopes this would help them realise they shouldn't have indexed that page. It's still showing in their search results, so we had also discussed me moving the draft elsewhere to see if that helped- so I've done this now, but feel it makes sense for the re-direct to just be deleted, so people don't keep getting directed to the draft talk content as if it's mainspace content.

Hopefully this makes sense? It's a really confusing issue that we haven't been able to get to the bottom of. I didn't want to request a deletion of the whole draft either, as this way the history is preserved. Editing84 (talk) 15:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I also wonder if an alternative to deletion would be for someone to tag the re-direct page with no-index? If people feel that the re-direct shouldn't be deleted? Just to prevent this taking up space as a potentially unnecessary RfD. I had originally just wanted to request a speedy deletion of the re-direct because it felt like a strightforward matter and I was the sole author of it etc, but was advised by a Teahouse responder to post here.  Editing84 (talk) 12:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Revert move since the draft is not solely the nominator's. The nominator may want to consider creating a copy of the draft in their user space, and then overriding the original draft after they are done making the changes on the user page. Steel1943  (talk) 23:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * How will this help with the issue of the talk page appearing in Google search results? The move was done to trick Google, and not to improve the draft. How about revert move and archive the talk page? Even if the talk page appears on Google later, the current content will have been cleared. For reference the teahouse discussion link is WP:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1212. Jay  💬 06:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds good/acceptable to me. Steel1943  (talk) 20:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Christian Opposition to Anti-Semitism
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  05:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Christian Opposition to Anti-Semitism → Antisemitism in Christianity (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Christian opposition to anti-Semitism → Antisemitism in Christianity (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not discussed at target, outside of the mention of Sicut Judaeis and a brief mention of modern reconciliation efforts. See also the precedent from Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 5. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 23:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep: unless someone plans to write a separate article on this topic, the target article is where you would expect any discussion of the subject to be. Maybe it needs to be bulked up, but I don't see why we would want to delete the redirect.  If it were discussed sufficiently to warrant a separate topic, it could be split off under this name, but for the time being the redirect serves a valid purpose, even if discussion of the subject in the target article is inadequate.  The only potential issue here is capitalization, mainly of "opposition", since "antisemitism", "anti-semitism", "anti-Semitism", "Antisemitism", "Anti-Semitism", and "Anti-semitism" all look like valid options to me.  P Aculeius (talk) 15:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK. The specific subject mentioned in this redirect does not seem to be mentioned in the target article, and per the wording of the redirect, seems to be a subject exclusive from the target article's subject with the target article not including any specific section to target this redirect either. Yeah, there's a chance someone looking up this redirect may expect the subject of the redirect to be at the target, but as it stands, the subject is not in the target article. Steel1943  (talk) 18:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, there is precedence set at Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 5 for the former redirect Christian opposition to antisemitism. Almost 5 years later, the subject is still not discussed at the target. However, I do have one concern: It seems that Christian opposition to antisemitism may have been a R with history, and the history was not accounted for during the previous deletion discussion. Per the creation edit for "Christian opposition to anti-Semitism" and since it seems as though there is no move from Christian opposition to antisemitism recorded in the logs for "Christian opposition to antisemitism", seeing if Christian opposition to antisemitism had deleted content may be worth investigating. Steel1943  (talk) 18:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Christian opposition to antisemitism was discussed at Articles for deletion/Christian opposition to antisemitism (2nd nomination) in March 2007. The consensus was to merge to Christianity and anti-Semitism, that article is (after at least two page moves) now Antisemitism in Christianity. However it looks like the title was just redirected and no merge took place. Thryduulf (talk) 22:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the whole situation is a WP:CWW mess; with this and my request on "Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion" to look at the deleted edits ... this whole situation is bit of a cluster. If that AfD was closed to "delete" or "redirect", rather than "merge", it would have simplified a lot here ... but alas, that is not the case. Steel1943  (talk) 22:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It should have been tagged as r with history or, if merged, r from merge. Since a list of authors is sufficient for attribution, this link is sufficient for CWW. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have bundled Christian opposition to anti-Semitism into this discussion. Steel1943  (talk) 18:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Second ping to (The earlier ping was at Steel's RfU discussion - archived here), who had deleted Christian opposition to antisemitism in 2019. Can you restore the page (and more importantly, its history), and we can bundle it to the discussion here?  Jay  💬 08:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If you or anyone else wants to challenge the previous RfD, the correct venue is DRV, not this RfD. If someone is going to actually complete the merge per the 2007 AfD and needs the content, let me know. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 23:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The instructions at DRV are: Consider attempting to discuss the matter with the closer as this could resolve the matter more quickly. and that is what I was doing. The forum for that discussion doesn't have to be the closer's talk page, and I saw the RfU, and now the RfD as relevant forums. In any case, the takeaway is that the prior content can be made available in some form to satisfy either the REDLINK or the standalone article suggestions. Jay  💬 18:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This could equally likely be treated at the current target or at Anti-antisemitism. The latter feels more appropriate to me, perhaps because the article is shorter now. With a few scatted references to the subject across multiple articles, search results are more helpful to the reader than the status quo. --BDD (talk) 01:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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NoneOm123
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Complex / Rational  15:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * NoneOm123 → Oliver Muoto (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This name is not mentioned in any page on Wikipedia, and my searches only turned up an obscure Pinterest account. Also note 's edit summary "". Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 11:47, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Probably should have been SD'd per R3 or something when the move was originally reverted.  But it's a bit late now.  As I search now, I get the obscure Pinterest account and DBpedia, which I can only make out to be a WP mirror of sorts. — Smjg (talk) 11:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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San Antonio Gunslingers
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  Jay  💬 17:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * San Antonio Gunslingers → San Antonio Gunslingers (USFL team) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems that there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and this should be converted to a disambiguation page, with San Antonio Gunslingers (indoor football) getting more views, but both have light traffic. If the USFL team really is the primary topic, then San Antonio Gunslingers (USFL team) should alternatively be renamed to San Antonio Gunslingers instead. There are lots of incoming links to the current redirect. —Bagumba (talk) 10:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig per nom. This could have been done boldly. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I wasn't going to be able to immediately deal with the incoming links, so I opted for RfD, instead of risking forgetting about this altogether. I guess I could have dabbed and marked it with Converted.—Bagumba (talk) 15:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig: drafted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:44, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Absolutely every malformed disambiguation without parentheses
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  10:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Zong - Disambiguation → Zong (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Seventh Son - Disambiguation → Seventh Son (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Kalna Disambiguation → Kalna (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * John McLean Disambiguation → John McLean (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Grand Junction Disambiguation → Grand Junction (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ragi Disambiguation → Ragi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ebenezer Cook - Disambiguation → Ebenezer Cooke (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Scapa, Disambiguation">Scapa, Disambiguation → Scapa (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Stewart House Disambiguation → Stewart House (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Marsh Disambiguation → Marsh (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Fest Disambiguation → Fest (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * L22 Disambiguation → L22 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Milford High School: Disambiguation → Milford High School (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pretty Woman disambiguation → Pretty Woman (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Ebenezer Cook – Disambiguation">Ebenezer Cook – Disambiguation → Ebenezer Cooke (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is not how the disambiguator looks like, so I suggest a delete of all. 176.33.241.125 (talk) 07:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep those without punctuation, weak keep the others. These are plausible search terms for people looking for disambiguation pages (and yes, people do intentionally navigate to them). Thryduulf (talk) 12:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I checked all, no incoming links in articles, no views. 176.33.241.125 (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PANDORA, none appear to contain any useful history. Also delete Ebenezer Cook – Disambiguation.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've also added Ebenezer Cook – Disambiguation to the nomination as it should be discussed in the same way.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: These are atypical to the format that we use for disambiguation pages and keeping these types of redirects risks opening WP:PANDORA. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I explicitly oppose the arguments citing PANDORA because it's irrelevant nonsense. Nobody has ever presented any evidence that demontrates that the existence of one redirect encourages the creation of redirects of a similar type, nor any evidence that deleting them discourages the creation of similar ones. Additionally, even if the influence does exist, it's irrelevant as we judge redirects on their own merits not on the merits of unrelated ones. In this case the benefit is clear (it allows readers to find the page they are looking for, lack of links is explicitly irrelevant) and there is no evidence of any harm caused by their existence - they aren't conflicting with anything, they aren't preventing people finding other things, they aren't misleading, and they're certainly not discouraging the creation of articles at these titles. Thryduulf (talk) 21:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Thryduulf: Would you support the mass creation of these types of redirects if someone requested a bot task to create the different variations for existing DABs? I'm of the mind set of "all of nothing" for improperly formatted disambiguations. If we want to allow these types of redirects then I think it'd be best to include them where possible. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I would not oppose the mass creation of such redirects, but I wouldn't actively support it either. I would support the creation of any specific ones that people felt useful (for whatever reason), but as with most redirects I don't see any significant benefit from the time and effort required for mass creation. If someone wants to put that effort in, I'm not going to stand in their way, but I just feel there are more productive uses for that effort. Thryduulf (talk) 21:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, just wanted to gauge how strongly you felt. A bot task probably wouldn't be too much effort, but that's another discussion for another day. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:39, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I think PANDORA does have a level of community consensus though I don't think it matters a huge amount for readers or editors.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:52, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It depends on how the WP:PANDORA argument is employed; most of the time, I agree with 's stance, but I do occasionally veer from that stance when the redirect is titled like a hot pile of garbage. For this case here, it may just be better to claim WP:RDAB issues and keep it moving. Steel1943  (talk) 03:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Typical Redirects are costly. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Penny sterling
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . There was agreement that Pound Sterling should be the target, however 4 different sections of the article were suggested for refining. Retargeting to Pound Sterling as the broad target. The discussion on refining may be continued at the new target's talk or another forum.  Jay  💬 17:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Penny sterling → Penny (British decimal coin) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Penny sterling" more commonly refers to the subdivision of the currency, commonly used for stock quotations on the London Stock Exchange. This should point to Pound sterling instead of the coin. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 06:54, 7 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 14:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 07:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that the current target is not appropriate but am less sure about what it should be. If the reader wants the historical basis, then it should redirect to Pound sterling (or maybe Pound sterling). If the reader wants current usage, then 's logic is correct. I suspect that WP:COMMON NAME would favour the latter. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:18, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Pound sterling. Not all pennies are decimal: the pre-decimal penny (240 to the pound) was also sterling. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Beckett Theater
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Theatre Row Building.  ✗  plicit  10:51, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

No mention of the topic on the target page Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Beckett Theater → Theatre Row (New York City) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Beckett Theater at Theater Row → Theatre Row (New York City) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Note I've added Beckett Theater at Theater Row to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 12:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget both to Theatre Row Building which mentions a theatre previously known as the Samuel Beckett Theater and where Samuel Beckett Theatre redirects. Add a hatnote to Beckett Theatre, Melbourne (a redirect to Malthouse Theatre). Thryduulf (talk) 12:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryduulf. oknazevad (talk) 14:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Pamu
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 31%23Pamu

Morgan's line
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Hip dysplasia (canine).  Jay  💬 17:53, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Morgan's line → Dennie–Morgan fold (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Primary topic from a quick search seems to be a diagnostic criteria of hip dysplasia (canine), not the eye folds. Our article on canine hip dysplasia doesn't seem to cover it, so no obvious redirect target, but I think it'd be confusing. Rusalkii (talk) 22:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Actually I created this redirect page according to a research article that I read. محمود (talk) 02:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi! Not saying that this term is never used for the eye folds, just that it seems more common for hip dysplasia and might confuse people. Rusalkii  (talk) 18:58, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Hip dysplasia (canine), where I've added a mention, with hatnote to current target, where I've added another reference for the name. DABbing would also be viable but I think the weight of the Google Scholar results favors a hatnote. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 18:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * This should redirect to Hip dysplasia (canine) with a hatnote/callout in the vein of Template:distinguish pointing confused readers to the current target (Dennie–Morgan fold). -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 13:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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New Year's Day earthquake
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 2%23New Year's Day earthquake

Buffalonian bison that other Buffalonian bison bully also bully Buffalonian bison
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  10:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Buffalonian bison that other Buffalonian bison bully also bully Buffalonian bison → Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Quite unlikely title/search term. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  04:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Top section literally explains why the redirect exists and was targeted here. WP:CHEAP at worst, truly helpful at best. Steel1943  (talk) 18:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Steel1943. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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John Seed
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 * The result of the discussion was restore without prejudice to AfD  . signed,Rosguill talk 15:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * John Seed → Far Cry 5 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target mentions a Joseph Seed, and then later on that Joseph has a brother named John, but doesn't use this name or discuss a character by this name in sufficient depth for this redirect to be useful. Various other articles mention other non-notable people with this name, so the video game character is unlikely to be the primary topic. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:50, 8 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  04:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:56, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The article was about the Australian environmentalist, and I just tagged it with R with history. Restore and AfD. Jay  💬 07:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Delete or restore? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Restore without prejudice to AfD as a contested BLAR per Jay. Thryduulf (talk) 19:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * I'm also fine with restore and send to AfD per WP:BLAR. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . With the removal of relevant content at the target having gone uncontested for a full month now, the rationale of the first keep !vote no longer holds, although its concern regarding the speed with which this was brought to RfD were valid at the time that this discussion began. signed,Rosguill talk 15:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers → Lesnes Abbey Woods (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers (LACV)">Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers (LACV) → Lesnes Abbey Woods (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * LACV → Lesnes Abbey Woods (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention anymore at the target. Therefore, I propose deletion of all. Veverve (talk) 12:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:29, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least for now. An article was created at Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers (LACV), moved to Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers and then merged to Lesnes Abbey Woods in 2008. The merged content was boldly removed from the target article (citing WP:BURDEN) 1 minute before the nomination here. 1 minute on google suggests that at least most of the content that was removed is easily verifiable, so whether it should remain is a matter of WP:DUE which needs discussion. Accordingly, I recommend keeping the redirects and restoring and sourcing the content without prejudice to a consensus discussion about whether the mention is DUE (based on 1 minute on google it's not obvious to me either way). If the outcome of that discussion is to remove mention, then the redirects can be nominated here (and will likely be deleted) but the current nomination is premature. Thryduulf (talk) 16:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * 1 minute on google suggests that at least most of the content that was removed is easily verifiable: there is zero secondary RS discussing the Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers. Thus, the content cannot and should not be restored. Veverve (talk) 17:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Only notability requires sources be secondary and independent, verifiability of facts just requires reliability. Notability is completely irrelevant to the redirect and largely irrelevant to inclusion on another article. Thryduulf (talk) 18:28, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Information supported by blogs about random volunteer groups is not to be kept. Notability has a role in those cases, we cannot add any random information simply because it is peripheral to the topic of the article. Veverve (talk) 22:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Whether the information is "random", "peripheral to the topic of the article" or any other epithets you wish to throw at it is a content matter that needs discussion on the article talk page and completely irrelevant to the redirect. If this group is mentioned on the target article the redirect should remain, if it isn't it shouldn't, however whether it should be mentioned is a matter for a consensus discussion on the article talk page first. Thryduulf (talk) 21:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I agree with the WP:CHALLENGE to remove this group in the article and a mention should not be readded without reliable sourcing. I see that such sourcing has not turned up. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Lesnes Abbey Conservation Volunteers was not categorized as an R from merge and I missed doing it during the relist. Now done. Jay  💬 14:03, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep. WP:RGUIDE applies.  Nominator's WP:NOTABILITY argument confuses Wikipedia's notability criteria and verifiability, the fact that a given phrase doesn't appear in the article is not sufficient to justify the deletion of a redirect (and the fact that the nominator is responsible for its removal is poor form, besides). -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 13:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * the fact that a given phrase doesn't appear in the article is not sufficient to justify the deletion of a redirect: it absolutely is a good argument. If a topic is not mentioned in a targeted article, then the redirect mentioning this topic is misleading. There are deletions of redirects for this very reason all the time. Veverve (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A redirect not appearing in an article is not a sufficient reason on its own to justify deletion. If it were Category:Redirects to an article without mention would not exist. It is true that redirects that aren't mentioned are frequently deleted, but they are deleted for reasons additional to not being mentioned. Thryduulf (talk) 20:48, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Redirects to an article without mention is a maintenance category. It lists redirects in which an action is needed—such as adding a mention at the target article, finding a better target, or listing at RfD. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's simply incorrect. While there are probably redirects in there that need some action, there are many redirects that do not (also note that every redirect category is classified as a maintenance category, even ones like Category:Redirects from synonyms where (almost?) none require action.). The first example I found was the result of an RfD consensus: Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 18. Thryduulf (talk) 23:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * We're getting a bit off-topic, but if a category is not for Wikipedia maintenance, then it should not be tagged as a maintenance category. Per WP:PROJCAT, the correct terminology for a non-content category is "administrative category" and "maintenance category" is a subcat therein. As for Double redirect, the obvious solution there is adding a mention to the target (and this was suggested at the RfD). -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you want to propose recategorising some or all redirect tracking categories, then do feel free but this is the wrong venue. As for double redirect, it was indeed suggested but the consensus of the discussion was that it wasn't required. It is also far from the only time when consensus has concluded that a mention is not required. All this is getting well into the weeds, but it does prove my (and @C. A. Russell's) point that lack of mention alone is not a sufficient reason to delete a redirect. In many cases a lack of mention is a reason why a redirect is confusing, misleading, or otherwise problematic but it is for those reasons, not the lack of mention, that we would delete the redirect.
 * C. A. Russell comment about also ties in with my original "keep, at least for now" recommendation (emphasis added). If you BOLDLY remove material from an article, you need to allow a reasonable time for other editors to challenge the removal of that material before deleting (or proposing deletion) of redirects or other things that depend on the removed material. How long "reasonable" is depends on several factors, including how active the article is (e.g. it's far shorter if the article is about a popular culture thing that is currently in the news than if the article is about an obscure 18th century novel for example), how widely advertised the change has been and how significant the change was. However, in the absence of very significant BLP issues it's always going to be longer than the few minutes allowed for here. Thryduulf (talk) 02:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not proposing recategorization, I'm explaining how maintenance categories are defined. For what it's worth, I have resolved the R without mention of Double redirect. I also discovered Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 17 which resulted in delete. It does appear you have WP:CHALLENGE backwards—the challenge is the removal of the content, not a hypothetical reversal of that action. In order to restore that information, it needs to be by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. Until or unless that happens, the redirects should be deleted because they're not supported by the target. Of course, if someone is able to correctly re-add material that is supported by reliable sources, then these redirects can and should be restored or recreated. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * "Until or unless that happens, the redirects should be deleted because they're not supported by the target."


 * That doesn't track with actual WP policy and guidelines on redirects. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 12:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Nice WP:VAGUEWAVE, but as I explained the policy invoked is WP:CHALLENGE. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Regardless of who has the burden in the case of a challenge, you have to actually give them an appropriate amount of time to (a) notice that the content has been removed, (b) engage in any discussion required to clarify why it has been removed (verifiability is not the only reason why something may be removed, nor was it why this was removed - nobody is disputing that this group exists only whether mention is DUE), (c) look for any sources that are needed and add them to the article if required. Additionally, even if the content is removed by consensus (silent or otherwise) that's not necessarily a reason to delete a redirect in every case (which is why it is not a speedy deletion criterion). Thryduulf (talk) 15:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The time is being given in the RfD discussion (which is coming up on a month now!). Anyone who wants to keep these redirects can and should take the effort to track down sources to support the redirects. If that can be done, and the content readded to the target appropriately, then my rationale for deletion would be negated. As for nor was it why this was removed, this is exactly why the content was removed; the diff is "unsourced (WP:BURDEN)". -- Tavix  ( talk ) 15:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. There is no substantive information about this group on Enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Tom Brady returns to New England
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 15:51, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Tom Brady returns to New England → 2021 Tampa Bay Buccaneers–New England Patriots game (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tom Brady returns to New England (game)">Tom Brady returns to New England (game) → 2021 Tampa Bay Buccaneers–New England Patriots game (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Tom Brady's return to New England with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NFL game)">Tom Brady's return to New England with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NFL game) → 2021 Tampa Bay Buccaneers–New England Patriots game (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not a useful search term. He's returned several times, including to be honored by the team. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Delete Not a useful redirect imo, also seems like an unlikely search term. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 20:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Skim of the [google search https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tom+Brady+returns+to+New+England%22#ip=1] gives a few of results, most (all? haven't read them all) of which are about the 2021 game, but it seems to mostly be as part of a natural sentence or "return to New England Patriots", not as a title. Rusalkii  (talk) 22:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm pretty sure during his time with the Patriots, Tom Brady did that every time he played a home game after playing an away game. Steel1943  (talk) 21:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Fine. To avoid a conflict, I had to change the redirect to "Tom Brady returns to New England (game)". How does this sound? Abhiramakella (talk) 23:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How does that address the concerns of the !voters above? Also, you should not have done that, as this could be seen as WP:POINTy. The closing administrator should consider deleting the newly created as well (G4?), or we could add that to the nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well it definitely wouldn't be WP:G4, but I went ahead and added it to the nomination. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:55, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, this is the only of Tom Brady's returns to New England notable enough for an entire article on it. "The Return" is literally the only noteworthy aspect of this particular regular-season game and how it was marketed. The (game) redirect should be deleted, not a plausible search term. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Comment: Tom Brady's return to New England with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NFL game) was just created, so I am also bundling it into this discussion. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's true. This was the only NFL game where Tom Brady played against his former team, the New England Patriots, and it was during the 2021 season. Abhiramakella (talk) 18:41, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * But it's not a helpful redirect. Nobody will be using "Tom Brady's return to New England with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NFL game)" to look for the article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Abhiramakella, you need to stop creating new, related redirects when this discussion is ongoing. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all as non plausible redirect titles. A redirect like Tom Brady's return to New England could be good though. Abhiramakella, please DON'T create it. Leave it to a closer. Jay  💬 18:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all not plausible search terms. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 23:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Vick Licata
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  10:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Vick Licata → Victor Licata (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Can't find evidence, on the page or elsewhere, that he was ever called "Vick". Rusalkii (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 02:23, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plausible misspelling of "Vic", a nickname used here. Tag as . -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 03:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Tamzin, a plausible nickname. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep I created this redirect as it was a common hypocorism.  Bremps  ...  17:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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DAC2
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23DAC2

Down down deep in the ground is where his story stays, and etc.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  10:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Down down deep in the ground is where his story stays → Folklore and Superstition (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * No man made machine could see the things he's seen → Folklore and Superstition (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Down in mammoth cave is where his body lies → Folklore and Superstition (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These lines are not listed anywhere at the target article. Apparently seems to be an avoided double redirect, but the previous target did not seem to have these lines either. I'm not sure how likely of a search term these would be, or how helpful (or unhelpful) the lack of a mention at the target is. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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1872-1915
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  10:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * 1872-1915 → Zhang Hanying (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect from a page move. Does not meet any of WP:RPURPOSE to me. Likely satisifies R3, but it's not strictly a recent creation as "Pages older than about 3–6 weeks are unlikely to be considered recently recreated" and 6 weeks have passed. 94rain <sup style="color:gold">Talk  01:51, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete – weird and unlikely search term, seems like it's asking for confusion. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Alexander Scriabin and Josef Grafl also have those dates. Thryduulf (talk) 14:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. More than just a person's existence happened during that time period. Steel1943  (talk) 13:41, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Wikiproject 
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  10:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Wikiproject ">Wikiproject  → Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently created cross-namespace redirect using an unlikely character, to WikiProject Apple. It does not seem as if this would be a worthwhile search term with the missing character at the end. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment The "missing" character is the Apple logo (can be verified on an Apple device or by typing it into Twitter/X). See also Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 20. InfiniteNexus (talk) 02:05, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. WikiProjects rarely benefit from cross-namespace redirects, and per MarioGom's comments at the RfD linked by InfiniteNexus this character is ambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 12:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * fixing the ping. Thryduulf (talk) 12:20, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per User:Thryduulf. This is a Private Use Area character, not an Apple symbol unless you happen to be using an Apple device. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:47, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: There is no need for a cross-namespace redirect and the usage of this non-standard character preceded by WikiProject is a completely implausible search term. MarioGom (talk) 17:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete since it is an WP:XNR when a similar redirect like  exists. Steel1943  (talk) 18:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Do note though that I only see a box with four letters inside it. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * As do I. It just means you do not have a font (that your browser/OS knows about) installed which includes a character for that codepoint. This is common for codepoints like this one that are in the Private Use Area of Unicode. Thryduulf (talk) 03:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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CAT:NBL Canada
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) NotAGenious (talk) 17:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * CAT:NBL Canada → Category:WikiProject National Basketball League of Canada (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A CAT: PNR for a now-inactive WikiProject. It doesn't seem as if this title needs to remain as a redirect in mainspace, as it wouldn't be regularly used and does not follow a regular naming pattern for CAT: space redirects. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless per Shortcut. Thryduulf (talk) 18:45, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per above. inactive, but still harmless 94rain  <sup style="color:gold">Talk  04:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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CAT:UBX
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 1%23CAT:UBX

Cat:NN and etc.
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  Cat:NN, delete the rest.  ✗  plicit  11:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Cat:NN → Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cat:atbs → Category:Articles to be split (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cat:atsb → Category:Articles to be split (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cat:disambig pages → Category:Disambiguation pages (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The entire set of "Cat:" prefix XNRs that aren't actual articles. Per Shortcut, "Cat:" is not a valid pseudo-namespace or shortcut. The usage of "MoS" and "Mos" are already pretty controversial, but those are the only two types of lowercase PNR shortcuts that are currently permitted. Lowercase "cat" titles are generally not allowed to my understanding, and these have all been created from 2016 and onwards (as I presume the rest of the pre-2016 titles have been deleted via different discussions). Utopes (talk / cont) 00:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Keep all - Keep all per WP:CHEAP. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Not at all useful for redirects to category space. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Confusing set of redirects. gidonb (talk) 19:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: at least Cat:NN. Seems widely used in discussions  94rain  <sup style="color:gold">Talk  22:52, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Cat:NN per 94rain, breaking those links would be harmful without any benefit. Thryduulf (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Cat:NN, delete others. User Memer  ( chat )  Tribs  13:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep/Delete Cat:NN and everything else, respectively, per above Mach61 (talk) 04:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Race Change To Another
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 31%23Race Change To Another

The Dawn is Your Enemy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 31%23The Dawn is Your Enemy

Masoom Shankar
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Masoom Shankar → Nagesh Thiraiyarangam (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Another similar situation, this actress appears across many different films and TV series covered on Wikipedia, including but not limited to 90 ML (2019 Tamil film), Payanigal Gavanikkavum, Teddy (film), and Dhanusu Raasi Neyargale. Redirecting to only one of these appearances does not tell enough about who this actress is, and it would seemingly be preferable to keep as a red link to encourage the creation of an article about this individual. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete in favor of a red link. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 12:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Neha Solanki
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Neha Solanki → 90ML (2019 Telugu film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Is featured in several movies and series, including but not limited to: Titli (2023 TV series), Bhaag Saale, Mayavi Maling, Imlie, and Sethji (TV series). Generally speaking, it is not helpful, and oftentimes misleading, to redirect actors or actresses to shows that they are cast in, unless for some reason it's the ONLY time they'll ever be mentioned on Wikipedia. Because this actress is covered across many different films and TV series, it's not great to redirect to only one of these occurrences (which doesn't really discuss her besides the fact that she was in it). In cases like these, it's more preferable to keep the title as a WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete in favor of red link. -- C. A. Russell ( talk ) 12:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

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