Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 28

January 28
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 28, 2024.

Episode 201
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 6%23Episode 201

Roza Potocka (1780-1862)
    Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 6%23Roza Potocka (1780-1862)

Gumby "Fun Special" redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 17:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Gumby Summer Fun Special → Gumby (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gumby's Summer Fun Special → Gumby (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Gumby's Winter Fun Special → Gumby (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The phrase "fun special" is nowhere in the target article, leaving it unclear what these redirects are meant to refer. Steel1943 (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It's used in the Arthur Adams (comics) article. Nightscream (talk) 23:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 14:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Arthur Adams (comics) per Nightscream where the titles appear several times, and are listed at the Bibliography#Interior work section. CycloneYoris talk! 20:13, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Leave it alone. It's already in the Arthur Adams article. A redirect to the article it's already in would be circular. I created it to direct to the Gumby article, because Adams won an award for his work on that book, and there is no Wikipedia article on that book. Thus, I created the redirect to the Gumby article. Why is this a problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightscream (talk • contribs) 16:27, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ...The problem is what I stated in my nomination statement. Keeping the redirects in their current state, readers will arrive at the target article and not find information about these redirects, leaving it both unclear what these redirects are meant to refer and why the redirects target their current target. In a case like this, deletion would be preferred per WP:REDLINK, and I prefer that over retargeting to Arthur Adams (comics) ... but the redirects are mentioned there, so retargeting there is at least better than the current scenario. Steel1943  (talk) 01:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Cyclone. Jay  💬 08:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Retarget, keep, or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Duckmather (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * delete all (or weak keep), looks like they were creted by as a way to create a link to Gumby from a sentence. We usually do that using a WP:PIPELINK not a custom made WP:REDIRECT. - Nabla (talk) 23:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, taking into account the creator's understandable desire not to have these become circular. This would leave the titles appropriately red on the Arthur Adams page. The single link to Gumby at Arthur Adams (comics) could be used elsewhere in the article if desired in the meantime. I assume the comics are notable enough to support their own articles, since one won an Eisner. --BDD (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak Delete all. Isn't really helpful as a searchable title. Because there's no dedicated article or section on this topic at the target, red links or piped links seem to be more appropriate here, which could encourage the addition of pertinent content about the Fun Specials.
 * If these redirects were to exist, the only possible target I see is for Arthur Adams (comics), as this is the only place it receives coverage. It's wholly unhelpful & confusing while its pointed at Gumby, regardless of intention. I'm indifferent between retargeting (to Arthur Adams) or deletion. The way to avoid circular links would be... to remove the links at the Arther Adams article, which is allowable, albeit not what the Nightscream intended. The more optimistic fix I feel would be to honor Nightscream's wishes of "not having this point to the author", which leaves "deletion without prejudice to content later" as the only other option, and keeps the links as they are. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: Applying RDELETE #10 "the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." Which would still apply if redirected to Arthur Adams. Nobody  ( talk ) 07:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Colonization of the Sun (Lagrange Points)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The redirect makes no sense. Lagrange point colonization is not colonization of the Sun. The Sun is a hot ball of plasma and cannot be colonized. Fish567 (talk) 18:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <span id="Colonization of the Sun (Lagrange Points)">Colonization of the Sun (Lagrange Points) → Lagrange point colonization (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Note: Redirect tagged and full header added here. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This has had a complicated history. The article now at Lagrange point colonization was created at Colonization of the Sun, initially as a redirect to Colonization of Mercury in March 2007. The following month, that was overwritten by the start of the present article, moved to this title after about 10 minutes (all by Mrld) and then moved back to the original title about 25 hours later by Voortle. Two days after that, Voortle moved the page to Lagrange colonization (via the misspelling Lagrance colonization). Another month later the article was redirected to Space colonization by Tango who self-reverted the following day after a discussion on their talk page. Colonization of the Sun (at the time a redirect to Space colonization) was deleted at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 23. Given that the content was only here for a day in 2007, and it's both an implausible search term and doesn't reflect the content of the target article I see no need to retain this redirect despite being a . Thryduulf (talk) 22:47, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Legal term
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Lists of legal terms. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Legal term → wikt:Appendix:Glossary of legal terms (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These should point to the same place. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 17:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Legal terms → Legal year (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Should that place be Lists of legal terms? —Kusma (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of legal terms Seems like the best target. A hatnote should be added though to Legal year. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of legal terms. I think that's the best compromise target -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of legal terms and add a hatnote pointing to Legal year. I checked mainspace links pointing to Legal terms: out of the five, two mean “legal year”, two mean “word/expression used in legal context”, and one is a see also link that’s unclear and probably irrelevant. I previously checked a few links pointing to Legal term, and all mean “word/expression used in legal context” (see Talk:Legal term). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 08:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Lists of legal terms, seems like best solution. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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List of NASCAR Banking 500 Only from Bank of America broadcasters
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  --BDD (talk) 22:04, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * List of NASCAR Banking 500 Only from Bank of America broadcasters → Bank of America Roval 400 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This page doesn't really discuss much about the Bank of America 500/Banking 500 Only from Bank of America/other name for the 500 mile oval configuration races in general, with only slight mentions of it, but no listing of winners. It has no information about the broadcasters of the race before NBC, where many of the races before NBC were broadcast on TBS and some on ABC. It seems that there is nowhere to really put that information in the article. The redirect itself is the result of a WP:BLAR by the author of the article in response to it being WP:PROD'd with the content being merged into Bank of America Roval 400 at this revision. All of that info has since been removed from the article, so I am unsure what to do with this redirect. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 00:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Complex / Rational  14:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I just tagged the redirect with R from merge. Jay  💬 06:55, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * This content was removed per this discussion. Ideally this should be either deleted or restored, but given there were no sources in the original article unless there are attribution issues remaining in the current target this can be deleted. A7V2 (talk) 08:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Probably just delete here, this'll never be a useful redirect, and this topic in particular has vanished. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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2006–07 Ranji One-Day Trophy
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 19:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="2006–07 Ranji One-Day Trophy">2006–07 Ranji One-Day Trophy → 2006–07 Ranji One Day Trophy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. This was left behind after a double redirect issue was resolved. It serves no useful purpose and should go. Thanks. Batagur baska (talk) 13:29, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Hyphenating "one-day" seems a very plausible search term to me. Thryduulf (talk) 14:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Plausible search term, clear WP:CHEAP. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 11:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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AI Gore
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts 05:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * AI Gore → Al Gore (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Tagged as an r from misspelling... and that's putting it mildly. Getting to this page would not arise from a spelling blunder, but from the deliberate intention of typing a capital i as opposed to the name of Al. RfDing this as I thought it may be in reference to an artificial intelligence bit related to Gore, (which surprisingly this page DOES make mention of "artificial intelligence" once, although not in relation to his name.) Utopes (talk / cont) 08:19, 13 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 15:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 06:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not a plausible misspelling. WWGB (talk) 08:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: plausible OCR, etc. error. Currently harmless. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 13:16, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete since it was created a few months ago, meaning this is most likely an unlikely misspelling. Steel1943  (talk) 16:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep typographically identical in multiple fonts -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 21:37, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cremastra and the ip editor. Thryduulf (talk) 22:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep, an unusual redirect but Cremastra and the IP have good points. User Memer  ( chat )  Tribs  14:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Not a valuable pattern for all pages that have characters which commonly have identical replacements but I think there's no harm in them existing for higher traffic articles that are more likely to, as mentioned, have OCR'd content referring to them on the internet, as mentioned. Has been getting a smattering of page views over the past 90 days even before this RfD. Skynxnex (talk) 17:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: I was planning to let this simmer to see if there were any different keep !vote rationales made... I would have expected more specific reasoning beyond "ell and eye look similar so they're basically interchangeable in any circumstance", which to me this has not been established, especially when we've seen cases with O's replaced with 0's being deleted, and etc. And even for those, something like "T0y0ta" is only going to be seen as Toyota. The elephant here though is that someone typing AI is almost certainly looking for information on exactly what they typed; AI. To me, the association of "AI" meaning "artificial intelligence" would be a hundred-fold more likely than the association with "AI"-but-actually-meaning-the-name-"Albert"-but-not-formatted-like-a-name-at-all-due-to-double-caps-in-first-word. Furthermore, "Artificial intelligence gore" is actually a TOPIC with strong ties to Artificial intelligence art, which becomes a pertinent search term and not just a borderline-meme letter-swap of someone's name to reference a trendy topic, when such topic has zero proven relationship to the person in question, nor is there a reason to believe that people actually look for Albert Gore by spelling his name as "AI", when Artificial Intelligence Gore is the far more plausible outcome to begin with for this term. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, particularly the point that "AI" is a different topic. feminist🇭🇰🇺🇦 (talk) 07:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as this is surely at least as likely to cause someone confusion searching for "ai gore" than it is to be helpful to someone copy pasting from an incorrect OCR scan. A7V2 (talk) 08:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Looking at google search results for AI Gore -Wikipedia, all but two results on the first two pages are for the former US vice president, one of the others is for a non-notable song or album (I'm not clear which) and the other might be talking about AI-generated horror movies but I'm really not sure. Even if there are other notable things people could in theory be searching for, the evidence very strongly suggests they aren't - especially as we don't have any content that I can find about anything else that could be referred to as AI Gore. So keeping this pointing to the present target is what is going to cause the least confusion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Friday the 13th (2017 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Complex / Rational  22:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Friday the 13th (2017 film)">Friday the 13th (2017 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th (2016 film)">Friday the 13th (2016 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th (2015 film)">Friday the 13th (2015 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th Part 2 (2010)">Friday the 13th Part 2 (2010) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th (2011 film)">Friday the 13th (2011 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th Part 2 (2011)">Friday the 13th Part 2 (2011) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th 2 (2010 film)">Friday the 13th 2 (2010 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Friday the 13th Part 2 (2010 film)">Friday the 13th Part 2 (2010 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Does not exist. ★Trekker (talk) 05:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note I've bundled these similar redirects which were all nominated with an identical rationale. Thryduulf (talk) 14:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note to others that there is also below. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Friday the 13th Part XI
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 01:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Friday the 13th Part XI → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Does not make much sense, the numbering for the sequels ended a long time ago and there are 12 films now. ★Trekker (talk) 05:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Coquille (engineering)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Coquille (engineering)">Coquille (engineering) → wikt:Coquille (engineering) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Target does not exist, no engineering definition at coquille either. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 05:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Restore this revision or delete. The current target does not exist, meaning in the current state, if it were not for the redirect's edit history, the redirect would qualify for WP:G8/Db-redirnone. Steel1943  (talk) 08:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Restore the revision highlighted by Steel1943 as a contested BLAR. No prejudice against AfD if anyone desires. Thryduulf (talk) 14:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Stub is completely unsourced, so I'm not sure why restoring is even an option here. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Restoring is only ever not an option when the restored content would be subject to speedy deletion. Neither being a stub nor being unsourced are reasons to delete an article, let alone speedy delete it. Whether there is scope for expansion and/or whether the content is unsourceable are matters for AfD to discuss not RfD so when there is a contested BLAR, restoring is almost always the correct option. Thryduulf (talk) 14:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete, in agreement with CycloneYoris. This is not a contested BLAR, no one has made an argument for keeping the article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * An argument has been made that the redirection is not appropriate, therefore the BLAR has been contested. Further, I am arguing that the content should not be deleted. An objection to deleting article content means that it needs to be discussed at AfD (if anyone still desires deletion). RfD is not AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 03:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It is true that RfD is not AfD—the status of the page since 2017 is a redirect and so deletion of the page can and should be conducted at RfD. Do you have a good faith argument for keeping the article content? What I see is a 'procedural' restore !vote in order to send it off to AfD. That's not the same thing. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:46, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A bold redirection has been challenged in good faith. There is a good faith objection to deleting the article content that does not meet a speedy deletion criterion. The only correct and appropriate course of action given those two facts is to restore the article content without prejudice to AfD. Everything else is irrelevant. Thryduulf (talk) 02:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * We should never be restoring unreferenced rubbish, but I thought I'd give you the benefit of doubt to make an argument for keeping it. I see you have no interest in doing so. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * whether something is or is not "rubbish" is a subjective opinion that is irrelevant to whether it should or should not be kept, deleted or restored. The standard for referencing is WP:V which requires content to be verifiable not verified. I have repeatedly explained why I believe the content should not be deleted at RfD, that you disagree with this argument does not mean I have not made it (and it is depressing that I've had to explain this to you on multiple occasions). Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That something is unreferenced rubbish is my opinion on the article content and is part of the reason that I am recommending deletion of the redirect without the unnecessary step of restoring it and sending it to AfD. I only recommend restoration for articles that should actually be kept, which is why I am so insistent on hearing an argument for actually keeping the content should this be at AfD—that is the only condition upon which I would consider changing my !vote. On the other hand, I am well aware of your opinion of the matter (so your depression over explaining it to me on multiple occasions is unnecessary). It does not sway me in the slightest. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No matter how often you repeat your subjective opinions, they do not come close to overriding the deletion policy, the verifiability policy or the guidelines around blanking and redirecting. It is rarely not worth making that explicit so that users who are unfamiliar with the policies or guidelines are not mislead by editors who should know better. Thryduulf (talk) 15:33, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I laid out in depth about how my position is compatible with the deletion policy and WP:BLAR at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 4. If your audience is actually editors who may be unfamiliar with such policies, it would be prudent to demonstrate how those policies have been 'overridden' rather than just making WP:VAGUEWAVEs at them. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Stone Cougar
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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 21:37, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Stone Cougar → List of experimental cat breeds (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There used to be a section there for this alleged breed, now deleted as long unsourced and not actually sourceable. Turned out to be one single breeder's "backyard breeding" experiment with a Chausie crossbreed, and there are no sources available for this that are not promotional material from the breeder, repetition of that material in social media by someone else, or repetition of WP's own unsourced claims. The claim of recognition by the Rare and Exotic Feline Registry made in that material was false; I checked. So, it's just now-deleted WP:NFT spam, and the redirect serves no purpose. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Friday the 13th Part 2 (2016 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Complex / Rational  22:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Friday the 13th Part 2 (2016 film)">Friday the 13th Part 2 (2016 film) → Friday the 13th (franchise) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Does not exist. ★Trekker (talk) 04:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete - this is a nonexistent film. It was never actually announced. Not sure how this was created in the first place. Should have been a speedy delete.     BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:59, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:46, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, a film that never even existed. User Memer  ( chat )  Tribs  13:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Home Planet
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 17:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Home Planet → Earth (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A home planet is a planet that is the home of an entity being discussed. Because of humans' limited venture beyond our gravity well, the term is mostly confined to science fiction, where it usually refers to any planet but Earth. Planet would resolve the issue of focusing on Earth, but contains no content about the concept of a "home planet", so I favor deletion for want of a suitable target. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Retarget to home planet, which at least defines the phrase (I see no good targets on English Wikipedia proper). Duckmather (talk) 01:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Agree with this. I don't see any articles which has this wikilink. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 22:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Soft redir, per the above.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to home planet per Duckmather -- 94rain  <sup style="color:gold">Talk  01:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate or delete someone who types Planet in title case is more likely to be looking for a proper noun, not the dictionary definition. There are a few WP:DABMENTION topics by this name (a BBC Radio 4 programme and Enid Dame's Home Planet News which are cited in some articles, as well as decades-old singles by Misato Watanabe and Chris Brann) that normally wouldn't be worth a dab page. But per WP:RFD we might want to leave something at this lemma instead of a 404 page to avoid breaking external links, and if so that something should be a dab page and not a soft redirect: the latter makes searching the encyclopedia more inconvenient for anyone who doesn't know about the tilde trick, and still leaves the dictionary definition hidden behind an extra manual click the same as a dab page would anyway (and worse than search results which show the dictionary definition directly in the side bar). 59.149.117.119 (talk) 00:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget per above. 🪐Kepler-1229b &#124; talk &#124; contribs🪐 23:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per the IP. The Wiktionary entry is not helpful. It only links to Homeworld which says The world on which a person originated. We don't need to trick the reader into multiple clicks for a capitalized entry, and leave him no wiser. Jay  💬 16:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Stevens-Johnson-Fuchs-Syndrome
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Annadaana
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Dāna. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * annadaana → wikt:అన్నదాన (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

How on earth is a definition of a Telugu word useful for English Wikipedia readers? * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Delete for pretty self-evident reasons. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 00:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Dāna where mentioned (in the form "anna dāna"). The word seems to be used in Indian English, including a few times in Wikipedia 59.149.117.119 (talk) 13:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per IP Aaron Liu  (talk) 14:55, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget per IP.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per IP. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Defensive alliance
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Defense pact. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 05:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Defensive alliance → wikt:Offensive and defensive alliance (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Target contains no useful information for the readers of the English Wikipedia. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 23:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Either restore this revision or delete. Either way, do not keep: All targets which this redirect has targeted in Wiktionary don not exist, meaning the current and former targets make this redirect eligible for WP:G8/Db-redirnone. Steel1943  (talk) 08:00, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Defense pact, which seems to be what the old revision refers to. Thryduulf (talk) 14:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to Defense pact: there's plenty of occurences of "Alliance" in that article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Defense pact as plausible synonym -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Mozart Society of Vienna
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Mozart Society of Vienna → c:Category:Mozartgemeinde Wien (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mozartgemeinde Wien → Mozart Society of Vienna (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Vienna Mozart Society → Mozart Society of Vienna (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Inappropriate cross-wiki redirect - people searching for this term are looking for an encyclopedia article, not a bunch of images. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: For further input on the retargeting suggestion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Bundling the other two redirects that currently point here as well. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:58, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget all to Mozart Medal (Mozartgemeinde), the medal named after and given out by this society. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:01, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete. This is not an appropriate cross-namespace redirect. Enwiki has no substantive content. Replace the link at Mozart Medal (Mozartgemeinde) with an ILL . Actually I think Mozart Medal (Mozartgemeinde) ought to be moved to Mozart Medal (Mozartgemeinde Wien). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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