Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 7

January 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 7, 2024.

Guyanese general election, 2019
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 08:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Guyanese general election, 2019 → Elections in Guyana (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete; there was no such event. 2020 Guyanese general election says the Govt lost a vote of confidence in 2018 but only in Sept 2019 announced an election in March 2020. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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Mao Zedong Genocide
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Mao Zedong Genocide → Mao Zedong (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Controversial redirect whose article to which it is targeted does not mention that the name of the redirect is the common name. Also, it was created by a sockpuppet user. 2x2leax (talk) 21:42, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. The redirect's history shows a variety of past targets but I don't see evidence that this phrase is a realistic search term for any of them. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, improper capitalization especially since Mao Zedong genocide was already discussed at WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 9. Jay  💬 17:14, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per the precedent RfD for Mao Zedong genocide. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * G5: Created by sock in violation of block. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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Doing it
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Doin' It and add entry to disambiguation page. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Doing it → Sexual intercourse (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect previous pointed to Doin' It, a DAB page, but was recently retargeted to sexual intercourse. I'm leaning towards changing it back, because this appears to be a mostly American piece of slang that might not be well known in other forms of English (see Collins for example). We can instead put a link to sexual intercourse on the DAB page instead, noting that this is a piece of slang. Liu1126 (talk) 11:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 13:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Notified the IP editor that originally retargeted the redirect of this discussion. Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 17:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * . 🎄Cremastra 🎄 (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: This is dependent on Sexual intercourse being added to the dab page. Notified of this discussion at the dab page talk. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 20:19, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. 🎄Cremastra 🎄 (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom if Sexual intercourse is added to the dab page.  Hut 8.5  20:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Central committee of the
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  per WP:CSD.  Complex / Rational  22:54, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Central committee of the → Central committees of parties (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I am assuming this was a mistake from the target page's writer. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per norm as a mistake for the newly created page. Respublik (talk) 17:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Db-r3 should apply. Tagged. Steel1943  (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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Abdul Samad (guitarist)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to The Drifters. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 00:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Abdul Samad (guitarist)">Abdul Samad (guitarist) → Billy Davis (guitarist) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no indication why this redirects here. Delete as confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:17, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to The Drifters, where he is mentioned. The DAB page for Abdul Samad says they are the same person, but I cannot find a source to confirm this. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:36, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget. This was an error of mine which I forgot to correct - my apologies.  The Bill Davis who took the name Abdul Samad (link) was the Drifters' member, not J. C. "Billy" Davis - I was obviously confused at the time into thinking they were the same person.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Raffetto, California
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 * The result of the discussion was restore and send to AfD  .  Jay  💬 08:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Raffetto, California">Raffetto, California → Union Valley Reservoir (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was once among the horribly large mass of non-existing communities in California. It cannot redirect to the Union Valley Reservoir since it's not mentioned there. The map just shows a power station at the location. Geschichte (talk) 06:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Restore article without prejudice to AfD per all the recent discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:33, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete The topo map shows it was once an isolated cabin before the reservoir was there. No need to waste anyone's time with these RFDs and AFDs, just remove links to it.
 * Reywas92Talk 21:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Restore and send to WP:AFD since RfD is not the proper venue to discuss article content and/or WP:GNG issues, and most importantly, per WP:NOHURRY. Steel1943  (talk) 20:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * delete to quit wasting people's time: WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY. The creation of a redirect is an admission that the place is not notable. Mangoe (talk) 00:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Restore and send to AFD: per . There are sources cited in the article that should be evaluated at AFD, not RFD. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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2023 Belgorod incident
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 17%232023 Belgorod incident

Penny sterling
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 17%23Penny sterling

2024–25 SA20
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="2024–25 SA20">2024–25 SA20 → SA20 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2025–26 SA20">2025–26 SA20 → SA20 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2026–27 SA20">2026–27 SA20 → SA20 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2027–28 SA20">2027–28 SA20 → SA20 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2028–29 SA20">2028–29 SA20 → SA20 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2029–30 SA20">2029–30 SA20 → SA20 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I believe these redirects from future seasons should be deleted per WP:CRYSTAL as they are not mentioned at all in the target article. Bsoyka (t &bull; c &bull; g) 06:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:TOOSOON and this is ridiculous. Respublik (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:41, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:TOOSOON, and completely speculative that these seasons will happen. Also, none of these alleged future seasons are mentioned at target article either. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 09:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
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2025–26 Big Bash League season
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 08:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="2025–26 Big Bash League season">2025–26 Big Bash League season → Big Bash League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2026–27 Big Bash League season">2026–27 Big Bash League season → Big Bash League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2027–28 Big Bash League season">2027–28 Big Bash League season → Big Bash League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2028–29 Big Bash League season">2028–29 Big Bash League season → Big Bash League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="2029–30 Big Bash League season">2029–30 Big Bash League season → Big Bash League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I believe these redirects should all be deleted per WP:CRYSTAL—these future seasons are not even mentioned trivially in the main article. Bsoyka (t &bull; c &bull; g) 06:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Respublik (talk) 17:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:TOOSOON. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:41, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:TOOSOON, and completely speculative that these seasons will happen. Also, none of these alleged future seasons are mentioned at target article either. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 09:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
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Isla Phillips
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . RfD is probably not the right place to discuss revision deletion, and there's no clear consensus on whether RD5 applies anyway. (non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Isla Phillips → Peter Phillips (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Savannah Phillips → Peter Phillips (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

has suggested that RfD is likely the proper venue for concerns with the revision histories of Isla Phillips and Savannah Phillips. Both of them are minor children who are far down in line to the British throne. Over the years, several editors have attempted to create articles about them, resulting in the redirect being restored each time. I propose RD5-ing all of the diffs that contain those articles because there is no conceivable way Phillips meets NBIO or GNG, and information about her should be removed per NPF. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Notified: User talk:Sionk, User talk:Achmad Rachmani, User talk:Finneggington3451, User talk:Surtsicna, User talk:Discographer. Reason: contributed to article or restored redirect. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:56, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep the redirects but get rid of the revisions that contain poorly written/sourced articles that get constantly restored. If they gain notability in the future via their own actions and achievements then articles can be written about them in due course, but not at this stage. Keivan.f  Talk 05:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep both as redirects, and eliminate all 2024 revisions. Best, --Discographer (talk) 11:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Isla Phillips as a redirect but restore the Savannah Phillips article. I decided I'd leave things be this week, unless someone contested yesterday's BOLD redirect of Savannah Phillips. It's unfortunate these two sisters have been raised in the same discussion. Savannah Phillips is the first in her generation, the first great-grandchild of Elizabeth II, so has attracted far more attention than her younger sister - for example when she started secondary education and when she turned 13 last month. It was completely correct to redirect the article at the previous AfD, when Savannah Phillips was only 7 or 8, but things have moved on. I expect if Savannah Phillips had come up at AfD again, I would have 'voted' "Weak keep". Sionk (talk) 13:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Could you point to sources that show SIGCOV of Savannah? As I read the article as drafted, it just appears to be a list of her public appearances with citations to tabloids and other not so reliable sources. Savannah is a 13 year old girl attending prep school; she's done nothing notable in her life other than be born to a royal family. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:48, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep both Isla and Savannah Phillips as redirects because these children are in line to the British throne. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 07:08, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Achmad Rachmani, do you have an opinion as to whether the revision history should be deleted? This RfD is not about whether we should delete the redirects entirely. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:17, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Wrong forum. RfD is NOT the proper venue for concerns with the revision histories of valid redirects. Per WP:REVDELREQUEST, any admin can be requested for revision deletion. But the question that may arise is why do you want to delete the page history for a page that is no longer an article, and is an undisputed redirect per WP:ATD. How is RD5 applicable for these revision deletions? Jay  💬 08:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * RE forum, I asked an admin, Nthep, and he declined and told me to come here instead. Regarding deletion of page history, the article has been continuously recreated notwithstanding that these two children are obviously not independently notable. I believe RD5 applies because deletion would otherwise be valid under GNG and we should protect the personal information of non-notable minors under NPF. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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