Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 8

January 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2024.

John Seed
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 17%23John Seed

FBC Olomouc
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 16%23FBC Olomouc

The New Orc Times
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Orc (slang). New Orc Times has already been re-created as a redirect to the same section. (non-admin closure) Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 14:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The New Orc Times → The New York Times (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was nominated for speedy deletion as an attack page. I can't tell whether this is a sufficiently notable meme to be included in the target article or at Orc (slang) but I don't think this should exist as an unexplained redirect documenting an attack meme. —Kusma (talk) 16:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment Could be helpful for readers if they misspell NYT Geardona (talk to me?) 17:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * On what keyboard? Are you serious? RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 10:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * This nomination should also include New Orc Times, without the The (a redirect nominated for speedy deletion, contested, then deleted without discussion). —Michael Z. 17:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is just a silly redirect that is meant for a mispronunciation, but I find it highly unlikely that a reader will have that bad English to spell "York" as "Orc". The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 17:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Orc (slang), where this meme is covered based on reliable sources. —Michael Z. 19:05, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Orc (slang): mentioned there. Queen of Hearts 20:09, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Orc (slang) where there is a cited mention -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:59, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Orc (slang) and also restore New Orc Times and do the same. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:29, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
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Nakedly
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15%23Nakedly

Nudities
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 14:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Nudities → Nudity (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neelix redirect, nonsensical word. Xeroctic (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. R from plural. Steel1943  (talk) 17:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible R from plural. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:24, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * keep per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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Nudely
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15%23Nudely

Lonnie Kris Wellington
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . CSD G7 Liz Read! Talk! 02:19, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Lonnie Kris Wellington → Characters of Undertale and Deltarune (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect should be deleted because it makes no sense and is incorrect. Kris's full name in Deltarune is Kris Dreemurr. 75.188.222.163 (talk) 12:58, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Interestingly, there is an actual person with said name which comes up when you search up Kris Wellington. I’m not sure if this page was created out of bad faith though, the edits related to it likely were. Said editor who made the page has a good history and likely made the page out of mistake, we don’t know why though. 2A00:A040:1A3:B38B:40C2:B07F:4BCD:236B (talk) 14:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * We need WP:RS to verify this is one of their actual names. Until then, delete. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 17:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. "Lonnie Kris Wellington" is outright not a name applied to the character in any sources. — Jamie Eilat (talk) 21:56, 9 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. The page was made by mistake, and admittedly I had some doubts about it being a real possible name for the character. The unregistered edits that were made to link to it, however may have been made by someone stalking someone else with that actual name, I was not aware of this and therefore I wish for the page to be quickly deleted. I have been on break from Wikipedia, so I apologise for the inconvenience caused. SignedInteger (talk) 23:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Since you're the person who created the redirect page, and are currently wishing for it to be deleted, then I think that means the page would now qualify for speedy deletion criteria G7, "author requests deletion". — Jamie Eilat (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and do it, I don’t want the page to stay up now that I’ve learned that it is someone’s actual full name, it feels overwhelmingly wrong for it to stay up. SignedInteger (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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ReFill
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 13:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * ReFill → Refill (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of the entries on the dab page have any affinity for CamelCase. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 05:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Created last month, ineligible for R from CamelCase. Steel1943  (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above; unhelpful due to the lack of any CamelCase topics in the target. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.—Alalch E. 09:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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Arrêt
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Stop sign.  Jay  💬 13:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Arrêt">Arrêt → Stop sign (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Too ambiguous foreign language redirect. Propose soft redirect to Wiktionary or deletion. WP:NOTDICTIONARY Awesome Aasim 04:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is the ENGLISH Wikipedia, not the French one. French people will type this on the French Wikipedia, but not this one. <b style="color:#ff6600;">The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1</b><b style="color:#0a0a0a;">(The Garage)</b> 17:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep or refine to Stop sign where explained. This redirect is for English-language users who may encounter the term and wish to learn more about it. In this case, we can provide those seeking an answer with one. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Retarget to Stop sign, which is about the controversy over "" vs. "" signs in Quebec. That controversy has been covered in English sources. France just uses "stop" on their signs. So this isn't about French people. <small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust 💬 22:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Refine per SilverLocust and Tavix -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:55, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Local pride
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . There was no support for the current target, hence targeting to one of the suggestions that came up in the discussion - sense of community.  Jay  💬 14:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Local pride → Community building (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Just doesn't make sense to me as being the same topic. -- Beland (talk) 03:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague at best -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Alternatively could be retargeted to Cultural exception or even dabified. Respublik (talk) 18:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I think local pride is more within a country (e.g. your city versus others) than the transnational concept of cultural exception, and is less legal. It's the warm glow when your town receives an award, when your home team excels, when your neighbourhood boasts some superlative, or when your area is famously appreciated for something. Besides community building an alternative redirect is to sense of community. Mebden (talk) 15:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: extremely vague. Veverve (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Delete or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 03:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Local community, which is a much closer fit. I don't think even being "within a country" is enough to count as "local" unless your country is tiny. That said, given the modern connotation of "pride", perhaps one could also be thinking about specifically the intersection of local issues and LGBTQ+ pride, which we don't seem to currently have an article on? (Also, according to a google search I just did, there's also apparently a non-notable company called "Local Pride Heating Oil" in New Hampshire.) Duckmather (talk) 04:10, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, local community would serve at least as well: it covers the 'local' aspect handily, even though the sense of community article is closer to the 'pride' aspect. I've edited both targets just now to ensure that local community has a link to sense of community and vice versa. Mebden (talk) 11:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Government of Switzerland
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 15%23Government of Switzerland

Spondylous
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 17%23Spondylous

Zee Estates, California
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  04:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Mangoe (talk) 00:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <span id="Zee Estates, California">Zee Estates, California → El Dorado County, California (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Pinon Pines Estates, California">Pinon Pines Estates, California → Mountain Communities of the Tejon Pass (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Oak Park Estates, California">Oak Park Estates, California → Calaveras County, California (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Abrams Lake Mobile Estates, California">Abrams Lake Mobile Estates, California → Siskiyou County, California (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Lake Hills Estates, California">Lake Hills Estates, California → El Dorado County, California (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

delete the above redirects to the enclosing county were created as fallout of the failed group nomination Articles for deletion/Indian Lakes Estates, California. All of them are NN subdivisions not mentioned in the corresponding county articles, nor should they be. I do wish that this sort of misleading redirect were not the "solution" to "save" these placename articles (all dumped in from GNIS, of course: see WP:GNIS if you don't already know why this was a bad thing), since the reader isn't going to find out about the thing, but they do get created nonetheless, so here we are. Mangoe (talk) 00:34, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all Completely concur with the last comment; all of these are non-notable developments not mentioned once in the target county articles, so that anyone searching for them on Wikipedia would find nothing. The redirects just create confusion.  These articles were a zero-effort mass-creation and IMHO should have been mass-deleted. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:02, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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