Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 10

July 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 10, 2024.

Samantha Payne (director)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Samantha Payne (director) → Mean Girls (2024 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Samantha Payne is not the director of Mean Girls. The director is Samantha Jayne. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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WIFJAJC
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * WIFJAJC → Al-Qaeda (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Acronym meaning "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". Nothing links here. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Protection policy/Padloacks
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Protection policy/Padloacks → Wikipedia:Protection policy/Padlocks (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Implausible redirect, given that Padloack doesn't even exist in main space. 88.97.195.160 (talk) 19:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Implausible misspelling. Ca talk to me!  14:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete since as noted even the mainspace redirect doesn't exist and it was at this title for less than a minute in 2013.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Right-wing media
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Right-wing media → Media bias (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not sure if this is appropriate, as "bias" implies something untoward (as with the rest of the article). Plenty of news outlets that are openly left or right-wing but there is nothing wrong about it. GnocchiFan (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree, that redirect violates WP:NPOV for me, delete. Jonteemil (talk) 19:01, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: per nom, Jonteemil, and WP:REDLINK. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. While we're at it, Conservative media also redirects to Media bias. Mirror links (e.g., Left-wing media don't appear to exist. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Didn't realise that; Liberal media also redirects there. If this is deleted, all "(political persuasion) media" articles that redirect here should be deleted. GnocchiFan (talk) 11:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. This is a plausible topic for an article. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is not implausible that an article at the target title could be an appropriate target for this redirect, but the article that actually exists there is not. I'm surprised we don't have any articles or lists discussing right and left wing media with examples, as such would be encyclopaedic and this would be a plausible search term for that, but at present there is no good target I can find. Thryduulf (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Håndboldligaen redirects
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="2024-25 Håndboldligaen">2024-25 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2022-23 Håndboldligaen">2022-23 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2020-21 Håndboldligaen">2020-21 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2023-24 Håndboldligaen">2023-24 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2024–25 Håndboldligaen">2024–25 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2023–24 Håndboldligaen">2023–24 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2022–23 Håndboldligaen">2022–23 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="2020–21 Håndboldligaen">2020–21 Håndboldligaen → Danish Men's Handball League (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

I don't think these are good redirects. Redirects exist to lead people to the right place, not to avoid redlinks. When someone bothers writing these pages, then they can become bluelinks, but not until then. Also, the risk for it staying unwritten is higher when it is a bluelink than if it were a redlink. Jonteemil (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: I agree that these should be red links. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 01:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Bigrigs
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 18%23Bigrigs

big rigs redirects with no space
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17%23big rigs redirects with no space

Active worlds in the Solar System

 * Active worlds in the Solar System → Volcano (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

not the biggest volcano nerd out there, so sorry in advance for any uninformed claims, but from reading the target and other related articles, there seem to be no other celestial bodies that meet the criteria of being a "world", currently having volcanic activity, and being in the solar system, though mercury is a strong "maybe". on another note, i'm not entirely sure "active world" is a term used to refer to volcanic activity, and the creator of the redirect (who seems to have made it as an essay) seemed to have also been referring to geysers, and counting moons as "worlds". for results. wikipedia gave me an mmo (shoutouts to hitomi fujiko), google gave me assorted apps and brands, and wiktionary gave me nothing. unless there's a detail i'm missing or this is a scientific term that refers to celestial bodies with volcanic activity, i'll vote for deletion  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * on this note, i should mention "volcanically active worlds", a redirect that specifies the type of activity it refers to and does not specify the location. jury's still out on the definition of world though, but it's a step in the right direction  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Is there a better redirect at this time as is this not a redirect with potential.?
 * Jury is out on definition of volcano as noted in the article itself and presumably meaning of world. Planet and moon are more accurate terms. Many "worlds" are active in some way as they are above absolute zero and may have internal or external entropy sources that disturb their surface however that is defined. Someone could get a good article out of this so my vote is to retain in hope someone will do the job, unless there is a better redirect. ChaseKiwi (talk) 17:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * drifting into personal opinion territory by now, but wouldn't returning to red be better for that?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 18:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think "Active worlds" is too ambiguous to justify keeping "Active worlds in the Solar System" as a redirect to Volcano. I also have not found any other suitable redirect targets because the problem is the lack of meaning in the redirect's title rather than a problem with any targets of the redirect. I recommend delete. GeoWriter (talk) 11:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Super Smash Bros. 6
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 18%23Super Smash Bros. 6

Porch monkey

 * Porch monkey → List of ethnic slurs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Porch Monkey → List of ethnic slurs (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

No longer mentioned at target. The second redirect is fully protected, so I cannot tag it. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It is mentioned at List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity, although that article does seem like a WP:CFORK to me. 162 etc. (talk) 02:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that List of ethnic slurs and epithets by ethnicity and List of ethnic slurs have a CFORK problem; the only difference scope-wise is sorting order, with the original target being alphabetically sorted by the slurs and the other list being sorted by target ethnicity. This issue should probably be resolved (and the two pages possibly re-merged) before we figure out where this should target. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 04:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note I've added the RfD tag to the second redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Porch sitting where it is mentioned and expounded upon. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 07:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But unsourced, and I have just added a cn there. Jay  💬 16:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I added a reference. The wording may need to be updated to reflect the reference (but it seemed generally okay). Better references very likely also exist. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 20:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I tried to convert it to a cite book but the save errored out with An automated filter has identified this edit as containing references to one of the following self-publishing companies: ..., Lulu.com, Xlibris, or Grosvenor House Publishing. Please be aware that self-published sources may be vanity publishing and rarely meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources.. I have re-tagged it with Better source needed. Jay  💬 14:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Added another. Bloomsbury Publishing should be fine (I believe they made a foray into self-publishing at one point, but not at the time this one was published). Better sources likely exist still (I just haven't the time to sift them out for the next while). — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 10:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks good. I converted it to a cite book. Jay  💬 05:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Porch sitting. Provides the most amount of info to readers, now sourced. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  15:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

redirects to unmanned combat aerial vehicle
<span id="International Battlefield UAVs (2)"> <span id="International Battlefield UAVs (1)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 18%23redirects to unmanned combat aerial vehicle

Digimon World Re：Digitize
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17%23Digimon World Re：Digitize

Digimon world:re:digitize
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17%23Digimon world:re:digitize

malformed digimon redirects
<span id="Digimon:Digital Monsters (anime)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17%23malformed digimon redirects

Lucas(Mother 3)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  per X3. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 13:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Lucas(Mother 3)">Lucas(Mother 3) → Mother 3 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

missingspace  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RDAB. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 17:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete it was at this title for a few weeks in 2006, tagged as such.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Observatorio tecnológico
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  11:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Observatorio tecnológico">Observatorio tecnológico → Observatory (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Delete as an unlikely redirect from a foreign language. ArcticSeeress (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * delete. don't know why there's a redirect in portuguese if the language doesn't even exist. that aside, the article isn't necessarily about "technological" observatories (whatever that's supposed to mean)  cogsan (me incomodar)  (me perseguir) 12:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * note: i was wrong. this was an ad in spanish. thought there was something wrong with the missing accent in "observatório". vote still stands  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 21:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Standard WP:FORRED case. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  07:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Sdn Bhd

 * Sdn Bhd → Private company limited by shares (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Sendirian Berhad → Private company limited by shares (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

No mention in article <i style="background:#5BCEFA; color:white">Is</i><i style="background:#F5A9B8; color:white">la</i> 🏳️‍⚧ 00:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 12:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Participants agree that retargeting would be the best outcome, but it is currently unclear where these two redirects should target. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment added to this nomination (the expansion of the abbreviation sdn bhd, which points to the same target). Best course of action here might be to add a mention at some existing Malaysia-specific article (e.g. Companies Commission of Malaysia) where it could fit as a subtopic, and retarget there temporarily as a R with possibilities. The current target is extremely UK-specific. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 06:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Retarget Sdn Bhd refers to a malaysian public company. Sendririnan Berhad is not a person but a longer version. I agree with the IP though, the current article is very UK-specific. <b style="color: #004d5c; text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px;font-family:Trebuchet MS">48</b><b style="color: #007d96; text-shadow: 2px 2px 4px; font-family:Trebuchet MS">JCL</b> 12:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Another relist because of the latest comments that suggest a new direction. Also notified of this discussion at the talk pages of the suggested targets and the redirect creator. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - Is this term just a foreign language term for the same thing? In that case we should delete per WP:RFOR.  Alternatively, is there a distinction that would make this more like a proper name for the concept, being brought into the English corpus as a loanword? In that case we should delete it to WP:RETURNTORED and encourage a proper article to explain the difference. Fieari (talk) 23:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No. It's the Malay (and possibly Malaysian English?) term for a type of Malaysian legal entity that is roughly equivalent to, but not the same as, the British legal entity. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment List of legal entity types by country tells me this is a type of corporation in Malaysia that is approximately equivalent to Private company limited by shares in the UK, which is in turn approximately equivalent to GmbH in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, Société à responsabilité limitée in France (and some other French-speaking countries), Aktiebolag in Sweden, Proprietary company in Australia, South Africa and Namibia, etc. I'm undecided though whether retargetting to the list or deleting per WP:REDLINK is best. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Malaysia. Thryduulf (talk) 02:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Puddle thinking
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:39, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Puddle thinking → Fine-tuned universe (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned anymore at the target page. Puddle thinking was merged to Fine-tuned universe in 2010, and the relevant content was removed in 2020. Tea2min (talk) 09:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. There's some ancient discussion prior to the merge at Talk:Anthropic principle/Archive 2 and Talk:Fine-tuned universe/Archive 5. Tea2min (talk) 09:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Crosswiki to Wikiquote - The original content of that page seems to have just been a quote from Douglas Adams, which is still kept at wikiquote: . I wish we could target the quote directly, but it's pretty close to the top of the quotes list, and should provide everything the searcher is looking for on this one. Fieari (talk) 23:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems harmless and I could plausibly see the quote being discussed at Fine-tuned universe or a child article in the future at some point. SnowFire (talk) 23:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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