Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 11

July 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 11, 2024.

Gusty Garden Galaxy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Gusty Garden Galaxy → Super Mario Galaxy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Soundtrack not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - while it's technically part of the subject, (it's a level/location in the game, not just a song) there's no realistic, encyclopedic reason to ever name drop it in the article.) Sergecross73   msg me  23:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete target article does not mention this specific level.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 06:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010

 * North West Leicestershire by-election, 2010 → David Taylor (North West Leicestershire MP) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Never happened. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak refine to the "Standing down" section where it gets explained the most. There are a few hits dotted around the web as a by-election was expected. Thryduulf (talk) 23:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In which case it should be renamed, without leaving a redirect. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If this were an article I could support moving but only retaining a redirect, as a redirect I can only oppose. The current title is the plausible search term, given that's how UK by-election articles are titled. Thryduulf (talk) 08:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's not at all plausible, it's a fictional event. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 04:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not it's not fictional. It was an expected event that ended up not happening because it turned out to be a rare exception to the norm of by-elections happening within ~four months of a vacancy arising. Given that norm and the rarity of exceptions, it is very plausible for someone seeing the MP for North West Leicestershire died in late December 2009 to expect there to have been a by-election in the constituency in the first quarter of 2010. Thryduulf (talk) 10:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is ultimately fictional, as it never happened and can never happen, as it's no longer 2010. Like I said, the redirect can be moved to serve the same purpose. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Did the preparations for the by-election actually start? The Banner  talk 11:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * AIUI formal preparations can only start once the writ for the election has been issued (which it never was), but it is very likely that at least some informal ones were. Given that those same preparations would have just become preparations for the general election when that was called, and most of them wouldn't have been newsworthy I'm not sure how you'd go about ascertaining, especially at this distance. Thryduulf (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The by-election should have been within four months after vacating the seat, if I read it correct. That would bring the by-election to the end of April 2010 (roughly). That makes it more than likely that the by-election was effectively cancelled due to the upcoming general election. So in my opinion, it makes sense to retarget to 2010 United Kingdom general election The Banner  talk 18:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Sonic Wiild Fire

 * Sonic Wiild Fire → Sonic and the Secret Rings (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

either an implausible misspelling or an implausible pun. i don't know which outcome is worse, but the term doesn't seem to see much (if any) use in the context of sonic, with or without a space  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 14:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment/Weak Keep - Article has mention of "Sonic Wild Fire" as the game's original working title, and a single doubling of a character is a potentially plausible typo, so I don't see a need to go out of our way to delete this thing, but I'll grant that searching the original working title to begin with is a rare proposition, so it's not like I feel strongly about this one. (Entirely possible the redirect creator was making a Wii system pun) Fieari (talk) 06:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep: per WP:CHEAP. The game was previously named Sonic Wild Fire so the target makes sense. I see no reason to delete.  C F A   💬  21:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sonic Wild Fire exists, and it does not seem as though the misspelling in the nominated redirect has wide-use, if any. Might as well scrap this thing. Steel1943  (talk) 16:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Mystic Ruins

 * Mystic Ruins → Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

either vague, or more closely associated with sonic adventure  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 14:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk!</b> 21:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Biographies of living persons
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 19%23Biographies of living persons

Extoskelitan
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Extoskelitan → Exoskeleton (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

that's 3 separate spelling mistakes  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 18:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep: per WP:CHEAP.  C F A   💬  19:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * will disagree with this specific one per wp:costly. aside from wikipedia, there seem to be only 3 other instances of this typo being made, two of those are on user-generated sites, and the other one cites this redirect for some reason  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I see no reason why this should be deleted (or even listed here). It does no harm, has a valid target, and is obviously not stealing a red link from a future article. Unless misspellings are so bad that it's not clear what the target should be, I don't think they should ever be listed at RfD. As WP:COSTLY says: "the mere fact that a redirect is listed and discussed at the Redirects for discussion page creates work for others" and "[don't send] redirects to RFD, unless there is a serious problem that can't be solved any other way (e.g., WP:BLP violations)." It has received 74 pageviews over its 9-year history, probably mostly crawlers, but it has most likely helped someone at least a few times before.  C F A   💬  19:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There are 2,578,125 possible typos of "Exoskeleton" that misses 3 letters, only counting the alphabet, and discounting insertions/removals. You would need to hire 10 people for 8 hours everyday, entering one unique typo per second, for 45 days to have an 50% chance of arriving at this typo. So likely, this redirect have never seen actual human traffic. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  04:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * if it's discounting insertions, this typo would be out of the question, as there's an added t
 * on cfa's note, i doubt the views could reasonably come from any source besides people using the "what links here" tool (like i did), mashing, or somehow finding the 3 instances of this specific misspelling and searching it here for a quick laugh. if someone has to do mental gymnastics to maybe find a possible reason for any given misspelling, there's a good chance it's not plausible  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, but that was hardly my point. I obviously don't care if this useless redirect is deleted, and I don't imagine anyone else on Wikipedia does either. But there's really no point in listing harmless misspellings here as long as they are targeted appropriately: all you're doing is cluttering RfD and making more work for the voters, relisters, closers, etc. Tag them for R3 if you catch them early, but otherwise don't bother.  C F A   💬  16:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on that on useless but harmless redirects, no need to nominate for deletion; but might as well delete this useless redirect since it have been already nominated for deletion. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  17:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, implausible error, not used in practice. Rusalkii  (talk) 21:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete implausible error that's so incorrect it looks like it's from a different language 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - Compounding two errors is much less plausible than a single error. I might accept "exoskelitan" as a plausible phonetic attempt at spelling it.  I'd possibly accept "extoskeleton" under similar grounds, though it's a bit more of a stretch.  But "extoskelitan" is just too far for me, and I'm a huge believer in WP:CHEAP. Fieari (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Skeltal
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 19%23Skeltal

One PIece
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 19%23One PIece

M-Block
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 19%23M-Block

Pokémon incident
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 19%23Pokémon incident

EP038
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * EP038 → Dennō Senshi Porygon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

vague. i can name at least one other thing with more than 37 episodes  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Surprisingly to me searching on google this episode of the anime is just about the primary topic - all the results on the first page and a couple on the second are about this. After that we get to product codes and episodes of other things, but still interspersed with the Pokémon anime - no other single thing gets more than two hits. Thryduulf (talk) 17:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * mostly one piece (and drama novels) on my end. google is weird :(  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: per above. Yeah, weirdly enough, a Google search only returns results about this specific episode. Not sure why, but it does appear to be the primary topic for the term.  C F A   💬  18:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment DuckDuckGo, which should be free from personalization algorithms, shows that this is the primary topic. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  16:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Heartless Angel
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 18%23Heartless Angel

바나나
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="바나나">바나나 → Banana (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

rlang seems to apply. i haven't found anything about the koreas in any banana article  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 12:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * There have been reports of bananas growing in Seoul due to climate change, but bananas are not closely affined to Korea. Delete per nom. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  16:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete I agree that bananas growing in Seoul is not a strong enough connection to the country to justify the redirect.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 19:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Ramshackle

 * Ramshackle → Independent animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Ramshackle (film)">Ramshackle (film) → Independent animation (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

'Ramshackle' (whatever that is) isn't mentioned anywhere in the target article. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Move Ramshackle (group) over Ramshackle and add a hatnote to Ramshackled (it already has a hatnote to Wiktionary). Delete Ramshackle (film). The only film I can find is Ramshackle House but that's a partial title match. Thryduulf (talk) 12:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The full title of the film in question is Ramshackle: The Thesis Film. It has a reasonable view count on YouTube, but it's probably not notable enough for its own article - it's not in the same league as Lackadaisy or Helluva Boss.  It's not mentioned at Independent animation.  Replace with Ramshackle (group) per Thryduulf. Tevildo (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Australia national soccer team

 * Australia national soccer team → Australia men's national soccer team (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Procedural nomination; I'm not leaving an opinion. This redirect was converted to a disambiguation page by Thrakkx, back to a redirect by Macosal, back again by Joeykai, and then back to a redirect by The Banner earlier today. Keep or disambiguate? — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh ) 05:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Unfortunately, the men's team is the primary topic (I would love to see the women's team with the same status, but alas). Beside that, it solved a lot of links to disambiguation pages. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 09:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate - Looking at the stats, the men's team does get more hits in typical month, but not always (see in August 2023 the women's team's hits completely dwarfed the men's). In the last year, the women's team article has received more views than the men's (745,602 vs 729,076) - which looks like it was largely due to them making it to the semis of the 2023 world cup, something the men's team has not achieved. Can't see an argument that either team is the obvious WP:PTOPIC so disambig looks like the way to go. <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🪲👻 11:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Clarification - I forgot that the women's world cup was in 2023, but the men's world cup was in 2022 - so the stats in that link are a bit skewed because it included one but omitted the other. If you expand the date range to include both world cups, then you see a similar spike in hits for the men's team, and statistically the men's team overall has more views. I still stand by my conclusion that there's no primary topic and we should disambiguate. <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🪲👻 11:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig per Bugghost. Thryduulf (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig as per the stats above. If men's team is primary topic, then WP:RM should be moved to remove men's from the article name, but that is an RM issue not an RFD one. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 16:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. The desirability of a disambiguation page should not be diminished by the effort required to resolve incoming links. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

ZeroNaseone
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD and WP:CSD  . Thryduulf (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * ZeroNaseone → Zerobaseone (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Unexplained and possible test move resulting in this redirect creation. Also not mentioned nor reliably sourced at target, a quick BEFORE also returns nothing other than COMMONNAME results of target nor non-COMMONNAME results showing otherwise.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  04:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete via WP:G6 and WP:G7 (Special:Diff/1233837439). Skynxnex (talk) 04:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Naked Rugby League 2007-08
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Naked Rugby League. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Naked Rugby League 2007-08 → A League of Their Own (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Implausible redirect. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Naked Rugby League. This was originally created as a redirect to what became (after a series of moves) League of Their Own (calendar), an article about a calendar featuring naked photographs of Rugby league players (principally the 2006-07 edition, but it did include a paragraph about the 2007-08 version), but that article was prodded and subsequently deleted. However, Naked Rugby League is an extant article about the 2007-08 calendar so that is where it should target. The current target is an entirely unrelated 1992 film about baseball that (from a skim-read of the article) contains nothing related to nudity, Rugby league or 2007-08. Thryduulf (talk) 01:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No objections to a retarget. That makes far more sense than the existing target. Zinnober9 (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget as above. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 06:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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