Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 15

July 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 15, 2024.

Sportacus 9

 * Sportacus 9 → Sportacus (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

there are theories that robbie rotten was the previous sportacus and wore the number 9, though they have little to no evidence that could be used here. retarget to his article, keep as is, or delete as fancruft?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 18:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep redirect to sportacus. Robbie rotten and number 9 (sportacus 9) are not the same person. Robbie and number 9 where butting heads (see https://web.archive.org/web/20040108161211/http://www.lazytown.com/pages/about/concept/theoriginsstory.html ). Robbie later became Robbie rotten (see https://web.archive.org/web/20031225235205/http://www.lazytown.com/pages/about/concept/robbierotten.html). Number 9 (sportacus 9) has much more similarities with sportacus 10 (the current sportacus) than Robbie, so that redirect makes sense for now. Snævar (talk) 14:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Goerdel's theorem

 * Goerdel's theorem → Gödel's theorems (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Unlikely typo; no hits on the web. Goerdel et al. don't exist either. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - from a phonetic (mis)pronunciation, so that others may find the correct target.  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  20:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - Plausible phonetic spelling attempt. Imagine you're a high school student and your teacher mentions this but doesn't write it on the blackboard, or did but you didn't take notes and are now trying to look it up from memory.  This redirect would be very useful to that person. Fieari (talk) 05:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - I've had to study Gödel before and I've also misspelled his name in many unlikely ways - the redirect is causing no harm and may help someone BugGhost 🦗👻 13:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:INLINE

 * INLINE → Wikipedia:WikiProject Inline Templates (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

I discovered this redirect when trying to get to Inline citation. From what links here, it seems a common mistake. The reason I'm not boldly changing it myself is that the current target, a WikiProject, seems alive, even if it's on life support. I figure, as a courtesy, we should get consensus to overwrite a redirect they've been using for years. It could also potentially be turned into a disambiguation page, though that wouldn't be my preference. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Inline citation per nom. I have made this mistake many times.  C F A   💬  20:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - the current target is a project concerning all inline templates, and I don't think there's a good reason to consider inline citation templates to have precedence for this usage. The WikiProject already has a hatnote to Inline citation, which uses the shortcut WP:IC. The project also has a list of inline templates, and I don't think that comprehensive list exists elsewhere. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Ivanvector. Also my view on the WP: shouty shortcuts is that they lose their intended purpose if they move or change. Changing it will break countless usages, both in talk/wp space, and in edit summaries (which can't be altered). Need a really good reason to change an established WP shortcut BugGhost 🦗👻 23:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Begrudgingly updating my vote to Retarget (with hatnote) per Thryduulf - I had another look myself at the usages, and he's right that it looks like a lot of the time people who link to it are actually trying to reference WP:IC, by saying things like "you need to add inline citations". Retargetting this redirect would likely fix more existing links than it would break. BugGhost 🦗👻 11:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget. I was all set to recommend keeping per Bugghost, but then I looked at the actual uses. This has many incoming links so I've looked at only a random sampling of them, but of those only 1 was clearly intending the current target, a few were completely ambiguous, some very clearly meant the citation templates, while the vast majority probably want the citation page. "WP:INLINE cite" (or "citation") is the most common form by for these links, the context they are in and the contents of the two targets means that it's at least more likely than not that the current target is not the one desired. Thryduulf (talk) 00:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget. Just like NinjaRobotPirate said, I was also trying to get to WP:Inline citation and found the deletion discussion. Before this redirect I never knew this WikiProject existed. My real namm  (💬pros · ✏️cons) 20:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

FinalMethod

 * FinalMethod → Method (computer programming) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned at the target with or without a space. Internet and Google Scholar results did not turn up anything illuminating. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed,Rosguill talk 19:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment It's likely that is arguably a close enough mention. See  for Java-specific context (it's kind of in some other languages). But the missing space makes it iffier. Skynxnex (talk) 20:00, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

How the sausage gets made

 * How the sausage gets made → John Godfrey Saxe (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

A line near the bottom of the article has a newspaper quoting Saxe giving a version of this quote, without any explanation and barely any context. According to WikiQuote this is the earliest known use of the phrase that's popularly [mis]attributed to Otto von Bismarck; his WikiQuote page elaborates on that somewhat but his Wikipedia bio doesn't mention it at all. Wiktionary has wikt:how the sausage gets made which gives an explanation of the phrase but nothing on its background. I don't think we have a better page for the metaphor; we have inside baseball (metaphor) which is similar but not quite the same thing. I'm not sure what to do but I don't think the current treatment is right. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget. I agree with the nominator that the current target is wrong, and also with the lack of an obvious better target. Otto von Bismarck is probably the best of the bunch mentioned above. However, Sausage making exists and given sources like and those cited at Bismarck's Wikiquote entry I think that could be expanded improved, but even without that I think it's probably the best target we have. Thryduulf (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Sausage_making - The phrase is VERY briefly discussed there. I think the section could be expanded, but this is what we have so far, so this is what we should target. Fieari (talk) 06:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Sausage_making per above - seems like best target we have BugGhost 🦗👻 13:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Sausage making which can be improved as required. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:47, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Galaxy 2
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy keep  . Withdrawn per WP:SK1 given the competing RM which will be carried out.  A WP:RM/TR request has already been made. (non-admin closure) 2pou (talk) 22:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Galaxy 2 → Super Mario Galaxy 2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

abbreviation only seen in the specific context of discussions about mario games. could otherwise refer to samsung galaxy devices, or other things with "galaxy" in their names and a 2 somewhere  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment There's an on-going requested move at, which would overwrite this redirect anyway. Skynxnex (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * ...huh. ain't that wacky. does this mean this nomination can be withdrawn for now, to make way for that discussion?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 20:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I assume so. My real namm  (💬pros · ✏️cons) 20:37, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support delete to make way for this move. My real namm  (💬pros · ✏️cons) 20:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment It looks like cogsan is asking to withdraw this RfD (correct me if wrong @Cogsan), and any decision will get overriden by the requested move - could someone who knows what they're doing (because I don't) close this, if appropriate? BugGhost 🦗👻 11:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * i tried closing it myself, but xfdc doesn't want to let me. weird  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment the requested move closed as moved yet is still there, and this redirect is still here... so someone needs to implement the move request result -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 22:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:NORUSH… -2pou (talk) 22:51, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Demolition Ranch
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Delete per WP:SNOW.  Thryduulf (talk) 00:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Demolition Ranch → Thomas Matthew Crooks (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not sure this is an appropriate target. Should an uninvolved YouTube channel really redirect to the shooter's page? Context for those unaware. An article on the channel was previously deleted twice (see Articles for deletion/Matt Carriker (2nd nomination), but it may be notable enough now with all this extra coverage.  C F A   💬  18:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - completely inappropriate to redirect the title of a non-notable YouTube channel to the bio of a person who might have been (there is controversy on this) wearing their merchandise while firing an assault rifle at a former president. Readers coming to find that information will already know where to look, and there is no other information on this topic anywhere else on Wikipedia. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - bad, per MOS:EGG and being generally slanderous. Marcus Markup (talk) 19:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - No reliable sources state a connection between the two. Same as the other brands of clothing he was wearing.  Joellaser (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as channel had nothing to do with event as far as current evidence points, its pretty slanderous to suggest otherwise, and channel may be notable enough at this point to merit own article. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete the redirect -- No connection between the shooter and the channel (which I'd question whether it's non-notable with 11 million subscribers, I'd be shocked if there's not sufficient coverage enough to merit it's own article. Even CBS refers to it as "popular".) ⇒  SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 21:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, the channel is very much unrelated to the shooting aside from a shirt, and it's probably not good to associate them this way. Di (they-them) (talk) 21:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete should have never been created in the first place. This is appalling. Isaidnoway (talk) 21:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete the redirect - I agree with SwatJester, the channel itself is likely notable enough to have its own page, especially if the likes of Hickok45 have pages and less subscribers and overall popularity. Plasmium (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete this would be like redirecting the entire pewdiepie page to Christchurch mosque shootings. Scu ba (talk) 23:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Completely unrelated and in my view is slander. Bohbye (talk) 00:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete; this is an outrageously defamatory implication to make about a random guy on YouTube. jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 00:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

E610

 * E610 → Bhopal disaster (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

While E610 is mentioned at the target (it was the serial number of the gas tank that leaked and caused the disaster), this string also shows up in several other articles, such as LG Optimus L5, Orange SPV and South African Class 5E1, Series 2. Neither an internet search nor Google Scholar suggest a primary target, so deletion to allow for internal search results seems most appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 18:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is one for the search engine. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I think it would be best to turn it into a disambiguation page that links to those other articles. Luvcraft (talk) 02:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Theoretical high pixel count images

 * Yottapixel image → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Yottapixel → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Zettapixel image → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Zettapixel → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Exapixel image → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Exapixel → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Petapixel image → Gigapixel image (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned in target, and contents of the gigapixel article doesn't contain any technical relevance that would be applicable to peta-, exa-, zetta-, or yottapixel images. The size difference between a gigapixel image and a yottapixel image is huge - printed at 300dpi (standard magazine quality print), a gigapixel image would be about the size of a kingsize bed, while a yottapixel image would have about the same surface area as Neptune, and (if stored at 24bits/pixel) would require 6000x the storage capacity of all of AWS to store it as a png.

Note: Petapixel was recently listed at RFD and deleted, but that had different circumstances because of the existence of the unrelated article PetaPixel. <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🦗👻 15:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * These seem like plausible search terms; someone may be curious to see if these higher designations exist or are used for anything. <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 00:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep - I still feel the same way I felt about the previous RfD. Basically, if some sci-fi or otherwise speculative writer mentions an absurdly large SI-prefix referring to the size of an image, then the reader should be able to look up the concept of "absurdly large image" on wikipedia, even if the exact level of "absurdly large" is not specifically mentioned. Fieari (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Nuzlocke

 * Nuzlocke → Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Nuzlocke Challenge → Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

"Nuzlocke" is not mentioned in the target article. Nuzlocke section was removed from the article in January 2023 and seems no one objected:. In 2015, Nuzlocke article was redirected to Pokémon after an AfD. Mika1h (talk) 13:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of video games-related deletion discussions. Mika1h (talk) 13:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems like you didn't actually add the RfD to the delsort list. It has to be added manually over there, like this. In this case, I replaced a closed RfD with this one. Nickps (talk) 14:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The redirects weren't tagged either. Nickps (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to do that. --Mika1h (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * i think a mention in gameplay of pokémon would work, but hopefully with better sources than the ones removed in that diff. put my vote on hold until i remember to look for that  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 15:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd say re-add the information, although finding new sources would be a good improvement. On the contrary to user:Juxlos's judgement that the Nuzlocke Challenge is "nothing special" because "there are multiple fan-made modes": most of them are based on or inspired by the Nuzlocke, and AFAIK the ones that aren't come from the speedrunning community. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I must note here that my removal of Nuzlocke is a WP:DUE thing, not a WP:GNG. I have no objections to its notability, though I objected to its inclusion in the main article the same way I would object to including Pokémon Sage or Pokémon Fossil Museum in the main article. Juxlos (talk) 03:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep Information about it should be re-added to the article, it was wrongly removed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:RETURNTORED - Nuzlocke could easily be turned into an article, there's decent number of sources about it, eg:, , , , and it's mentioned in 14 different Wikipedia articles. (My second preference would be keep/reinstate into Pokemon) <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🪲👻 09:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Restore the previously deleted information from the current target article to this page, creating a new article here. I can see the WP:DUE weight issue with nuzlocke being in the main article, but it looks like it should pass WP:GNG, so give it its own article right here. Fieari (talk) 07:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Hardcore Gamer (website)

 * <span id="Hardcore Gamer (website)">Hardcore Gamer (website) → Gamer (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

The target page mentions the concept of a "hardcore gamer" but bears no reference to the website of that name. IceWelder &#91; &#9993; &#93; 08:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment - We do not appear to cover the parent company of the publication, i.e. Valnet, Inc. It is, however, listed at Valnet. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 10:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Delete since there is no article for the parent company per above. LBWP2 (talk) 01:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Harry Patterson

 * Harry Patterson → Jack Higgins (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

I propose to move the new disambiguation page, Harry Patterson (disambiguation), over this title. The current redirect subject, Jack Higgins, may well be a popular author, but his real name was "Henry Patterson" (not Harry), and he apparently only ever made limited use of the name "Harry Patterson", finally switching to "Jack Higgins" before he became famous; I therefore do not think there is a primary topic for the actual name, "Harry Patterson". BD2412 T 01:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Harry Patterson (disambiguation)  98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  •  [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]   05:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Move Harry Patterson (disambiguation) to Harry Patterson, per 98Tigerius <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🪲👻 12:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Move Harry Patterson (disambiguation) to Harry Patterson per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Move per nom. Retargeting so that it pointed to the disambiguation page would be a breach of WP:MALPLACED. Tassedethe (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Siddiqui

 * Siddiqui → Muslim Kayasths (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Current target Muslim Kayastha is very specifically referring to a community in a region in India. Meanwhile this name found all over Pakistan and Bangladesh as well among unrelated communities. (e.g the name is listed here as a Sindhi name as well List of Sindhi tribes (in the "others" section) Kowtis (talk) 09:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC) Note: this is an RfD nomination that I've helped out with on behalf of User:Kowtis who had trouble doing it themselves, they have explained to me on their talk page that this redirect should be retargeted to Siddiqui (name). — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  10:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not very knowledgeable in the subject, but I would suggest converting to disamb page here, unless there's a clear primary topic that someone can explain.
 * Would it be better to move Siddiqui (name) to Siddiqui? --Un assiolo (talk) 22:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging @Kowtis for response — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  02:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Would support redirecting Siddiqui to Siddiqui (name) instead, but if it's not feasible would support moving the latter to the former as well. Kowtis (talk) 05:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Move Siddiqui (name) to Siddiqui as the primary topic and put a hatnote there. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Rajeshwari Vilas Coffee Club

 * Rajeshwari Vilas Coffee Club → Zee Telugu (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned in target. Is a series aired on that channel, may belong at List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu but that page is up for deletion. Rusalkii (talk) 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Likewise Seethe Ramudi Katnam Rusalkii  (talk) 22:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ...and very very many others, all of which created by an editor blocked for paid editing User talk:RahulBodke. Propose to delete the lot. Rusalkii  (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If it belongs there, someone needs to add an entry. (And maybe add some sources, that list article is rather light on those.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu is not, nor was up for deletion. Jay  💬 15:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops, no idea what I managed to mix up with it. Thanks for the catch! Rusalkii  (talk) 21:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

SportAccord

 * SportAccord → Global Association of International Sports Federations (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Removal/deletion of current redirect as it creates misleading impression. The redirect page reflects the name of a separate organization with its own initiatives whereas the target page reflects another organization that is now dissolved. In the current target page there's even a proposal on the Talk page from someone addressing this confusion. There should be a separate page and information about the redirect page of SportAccord JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 14:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hard to say, maybe we can just rename that GAISF article again to be SportAccord? Notified both WP:SPORTS and WP:Switzerland. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It is hard, indeed. But I feel there would be value to having a separate SportAccord page as these are entirely different entities and it's tricky to combine them into one article efficiently as they have different structures, activities, missions. JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that's why that SportAccord has its own Wikidata item just because of, but then it meets own notability for separating? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep since it is mentioned at the target, so I honestly see no reason for deletion. This is clearly a plausible redirect, and a valid R from move. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Delete Even though it seems there's a connection between the two pages and organizations, SportAccord seems to have very different initiatives and a strong user following from people who attend the SportAccord events so there will be a benefit to distinguishing clearly the two organizations.
 * Thomson.janet101 (talk) 10:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment: I did some little digging into this.
 * The website mentioned in GAISF infobox https://gaisf.sport currently redirects to https://sportaccord.sport However it only has links to some summits and does not mention of any list of member federations.
 * Another website https://gaisf.org which is linked from some member federations' website (such as https://www.ilsf.org/about/recognition/gaisf/) says on its homepage "DISSOLUTION OF GAISF APPROVED AT EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL ASSEMBLY, RECORD ATTENDANCE OF MEMBERS, NEXT STEPS CLARIFIED". Opening the link takes us to which explains the development in details including the role of SportAccord. Also, its history page says the following:
 * 2003: GAISF in collaboration with the Association of Summer and Winter Olympic International Federations (ASOIF and AIOWF) launch the first SportAccord International Convention to answer a need from the IF’s which were looking to have a “one stop shop”, where they could all hold their annual meetings, be encouraged to network and share their knowledge.
 * 2017: SportAccord is renamed GAISF (Global Association of International Sports Federations)
 * 2022: Members approve dissolution of GAISF at Extraordinary General Assembly
 * Honestly, I cannot construct a coherent history from this. If GAISF "launched" SportAccord, how did the latter also become "GAISF". Were there two bodies by the name of GAISF since 2017? If SportAccord was already remnamed in 2017, what is the SportAccord that functions currently? If someone knows more about this, it would be easier to make a decision. Thanks! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 20:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @CX Zoom Indeed, I sent an email to SportAccord's staff to clarify their details of member structure, maybe less possible to wait for their reply. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Reply: Good point! I also did some digging and found a very helpful article that explains this confusion: [Https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1049005/sportaccord-changes-name-to-global-association-of-international-sports-federations https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1049005/sportaccord-changes-name-to-global-association-of-international-sports-federations]
 * A quote from this link:
 * "Adopting the Global Association of International Sports Federations name better represents the nature of the organisation and makes a clear distinction from the SportAccord Convention and any other commercial activities carried out under and on behalf of SportAccord/GAISF," GAISF said in a statement.
 * Basically I think this shows why this current redirect is not accurate and SportAccord needs its own Wikipedia article - GAISF has always been a separate organization (which is now dissolved and doesn't exist), whereas SportAccord Convention (now known as just SportAccord) is a separate thing too - a popular annual event with editions for over 20 years now. JennyAnderson 2 (talk) 15:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

metal age

 * The Metal Age → Thief II (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Metal Age → Three-age system (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

different targets, and there's an article for the metal ages... which is itself divided into 3 ages, the last of which seems to be referred to as "the" metal age, even though they're grouped together because they're different metals. i'll vote for retargeting both of those to metal ages, unless someone actually knows their stuff  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate at Metal Age, then retarget The Metal Age there. I guess I know some stuff, and it looks like "Metal Age" or "The Metal Age" (both singular) could refer to:
 * The Metal Ages (Copper, Bronze, Iron) in the traditional three age system, collectively – but this is more of a turn of phrase than a formal period
 * The Metal Age in the prehistory of Southeast Asia – a specific, formal period (presumably because bronze and iron arrived there simultaneously)
 * Hesiod's metallic ages (Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron)
 * Thief II
 * I don't see a primary topic amongst them and I'm also not sure about Metal Ages as standalone article, there's not much to say about them collectively other than that they all involved metal. What do you think? –&#8239;Joe (talk) 07:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping Joe. I think they should both redirect to Metal Ages (though this should possibly move to the singular, both as best practice stylistically and apparently as the most common form in scholarship (Ngrams)). While the page as is stubby, it's for lack of attention, not for lack of material. The scholarly literature using the conceptual period grouping is considerable. The Metal Age in Southeast Asia might have a slightly different progression, but it is conceptually the same thing. Hesiod's idea within an idea mercifully has a quite different form. The Thief II title name is not something I think we need to be concerned with, any more than we need to disambiguate "resurrection" to account for the fourth installment of the Aliens franchise when directing to that topic. If a disambiguation page feels warranted, I would suggest linking to it with a hatnote from the Metal Ages page. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not too sure about combining the Metal Age of Southeast Asia and the "metal ages" of the rest of the world. In most of the Old World the Copper, Bronze, and Iron Ages are firmly distinct periods (the latter two being two of the original three ages) and referring to them together as either "the metal age" or "the metal ages" is honestly something I'd never come across until today (though Google Scholar tells me it happens). By contrast archaeologists of Southeast Asia consistently use it as a distinct, top-level period with the subdivisions early, developed, and proto-historic rather than copper, bronze, and iron. So we could write Metal Age Southeast Asia but not Metal Age Europe or Metal Age Southwest Asia because nobody really talks about that (instead we have Bronze Age Europe, Iron Age Europe). –&#8239;Joe (talk) 10:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. But it's somewhat academic at this point when a Metal Age of Southeast Asia page doesn't exist yet. I think the reason why the Metal Ages are emerging more and more as a reference point is because the three-age system is a bit dated and broken and underappreciates the major technology step of metallurgy. The stone age is also, in of itself, massive – comprising the paleolithic, mesolithic and neolithic, so it's generally pretty useless and unhelpful to group that with the bronze and iron ages, which are very distinct from the former. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep "The Metal Age", specifically, clearly refers to Thief II. There's no other convincing primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Zxcvbnm: How do you figure that? I don't think scholarly literature refers to the game. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambiguate per Joe. -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 08:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Grand Duke of Hum redirects

 * <span id="Sandalj Hranić, Grand Duke of Hum">Sandalj Hranić, Grand Duke of Hum → Sandalj Hranić (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]


 * <span id="Vlatko Vukovic, Grand Duke of Hum">Vlatko Vukovic, Grand Duke of Hum → Vlatko Vuković (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]


 * <span id="Vlatko Vuković, Grand Duke of Hum">Vlatko Vuković, Grand Duke of Hum → Vlatko Vuković (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Extension to bio's name in the article tile is misnomer in form of implausible noble title. ౪ Santa ౪ 99°  01:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep - Article leads specify that they are Grand Dukes (of Bosnia), and have holdings in Hum... heck, Vlatko is specified to be a Duke of Hum. Seems plausible to me that someone would mash the two facts together when searching for this person.  A redirect doesn't have to be accurate, and mistakes and misunderstandings are perfectly acceptable reasons to have a redirect. The target is also unambiguous here. Doesn't really matter if there actually is a "Grand Duke" title for Hum or not. Fieari (talk) 23:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * A cursory Google Books search for "grand duke of hum" and "veliki vojvoda humski" don't turn up these people, but it does turn up some other people, Stjepan Vukčić Kosača, Miroslav, Vojislav. what is the actual significance of this title, if any? --Joy (talk) 23:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Hi, guys! Duke of Hum exists as a title, Grand Duke of Hum does not/did not, and there is very clear record about every known/recorded local nobleman and how he used to title himself - so no mystery there. In case of Vlatko Vuković and Sandalj Hranić they did not use title Duke of Hum either, they always signed themselves or were mentioned in charters as Grand Duke of Bosnia only. Many other local noblemen, even of lesser status than Vuković, Hranić, and later Vukčić (all members of Kosača clan) wore the Duke of Hum title - such as Sankovićs, Nikolićs, Vlatkovićs, etc. - simply there was no such title as Grand Duke of Hum, there was only Grand Duke of Bosnia as a title. Of all Kosača members, only Stjepan Vukčić wore both titles, the Duke of Hum and Grand Duke of Bosnia, and also Knez of Drina and of Primorje, and he almost always used full title. There was also nobility from earlier periods, but as far as I know nobility in pre-Bosnian medieval state era mostly wore title of knez (knyaz/prince) and župan. In short, title Grand Duke of Hum never existed. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  00:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have said from Early Middle Ages instead of pre-Bosnian state. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  00:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You can see every single recorded title in Konkordancijski rjecnik cirilskih povelja srednjovjekovne Bosne. ౪ Santa ౪  99°  00:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Kirby DS

 * Kirby DS → Kirby: Squeak Squad (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

there are 3 other kirby games on the ds, and squeak squad isn't even the first one  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 13:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.—Alalch E. 14:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kirby (series) where the Kirby DS games are discussed. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

CheckUser

 * CheckUser → Wikipedia:CheckUser (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

CNR. Should we retarget to Wiki? Ahri Boy (talk) 06:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Wiki has no info on checkusers or equivalent functions. Checkusers are not something which beginner editors, who might not realize the existence of the Wikipedia namespace, would search up. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  11:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC) Keep Actually, I am convinced by the below arguments. CheckUser is Wikipedia specific(no room for confusion), and new users may come across the term checkuser in the examples provided below. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  16:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep: I think the question should be whether this is a potential useful redirect and whether it's unambiguous. I think it is, on both accounts. It being a cross-namespace redirect does not mean it's not useful. Those types of redirects aren't covered under WP:CSD R2, meaning, in certain cases, they're allowed. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * All Google results appear to be for Wikipedia and I'm not sure if there is much non Wikipedia usage.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that there is also Checkuser which should also be deleted or retargeted if this is closed as delete or retarget.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per WP:NAVELGAZING - no reliable sources (that I could find) discuss the topic, therefore there is no article to be made. Our myriad of jargony internal policy documents don't serve much of a purpose for readers looking for an encyclopedia article on this topic, which we do not have. Project pages are not articles, do not have the same standards, and are written for a completely different audience. If we really want to have cross-namespace redirects from reader-space into project-space, we should do it with a soft redirect, one that will advise the reader that we do not have an encyclopedia article on the topic they're looking for, but they can click through if they really want to see how the sausage is made; just dumping them into project space unawares is frankly kind of cruel. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:00, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Meh (weak keep). I see both sides of the argument. I agree with Ivanvector that there is likely no chance that CheckUser (be it the MediaWiki extension, the WMF implementation thereof, or anything else similar) is going to be a notable topic on its own. But I'm confused why that means that we need to delete it. We have multiple other CNRs from Main->Project, such as Administrators noticeboard (and variations), Autoconfirmed, Disambiguation page, Good article, and many more (can sift through to find more). Unless there's previously been a discussion that has resulted in a consensus that main->project redirects are not permitted... then what's the harm? If the topic isn't notable, there's a non-zero chance someone who, say, is checkuser blocked will simply search the term "Checkuser" on Wikipedia, and I don't think it serves them to not redirect them to our project space page explaining it. If the topic was potentially notable on its own, then making an article would be preferable - but I don't buy the argument that a blank/deleted page is better than a redirect if someone searches for it on Wikipedia. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 21:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Berchanhimez: redirects from the mainspace to project space are discouraged (see WP:CNR for the background) and frequently deleted. Exceptions do exist, most commonly (but not exclusively) where it is desirable that the target page is easy to find by very new users who haven't learned about namespaces yet (administrators noticeboard and Wikipedia help are examples). The second most common is for internal aspects that people outside the project will have heard of (or assume exist) and want to look up but which don't have an encyclopaedic target (e.g. good articles). Thryduulf (talk) 01:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I find it unreasonable to think that those two are things a new user would be likely to search for, and not CheckUser, when CheckUser is used as a rationale for a block or referenced on those noticeboards sometimes. I am not saying they shouldn't be discouraged, but this is one that actually makes sense, in my view. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: There's nothing inherently wrong with CNRs. Our goal is to help the reader get to where they want to go. Anyone typing "CheckUser" into the search bar evidently wants to get to the project page. Deleting it is just removing a helpful, unambiguous redirect for no reason.  C F A   💬  16:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete redirect to non-reader content. A reader would not be affected by a checkuser outcome, unless they edit. -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 08:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a useful CNR shortcut created by a well-established editor many years ago (2017) based on another CNR shortcut . That one was created by another well-established editor many years before that (2006). 1) Both are firmly "grandfathered in" CNRs, and 2) per WP:R, R3, R4 and R5.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'er there 01:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Boss Brain

 * Boss Brain → Doom II (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

vague, subject to varying definitions of "boss" and "brain", not associated with the arachnotron or icon of sin in doom 2. taking both terms literally, i can name the spider mastermind (introduced in doom 1), the brain of cthulhu, mother brain, machiavillain, the 1000-thr, and i guess andross? if anything, the closest to a "primary" target seems to be the brain of cthulhu, but it's not mentioned in terraria's article at all  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete as ambiguous, yet not really enough of a well-formed title to be worth disambiguating. Fieari (talk) 00:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 assassination attempt

 * 2024 assassination attempt → Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Too general. MSMST1543 (talk) 02:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * . There is no reason to believe that this, only 24ish hours after the news broke, will be the primary topic, and so a redirect should not have been created. I suspect there have also been quite a few attempted assassinations in 2024 that didn't occur in the USA, and so this could also be considered a US centric redirect. Failing a redirect, it should be deleted -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As others have pointed out, there isn't really a good redirect target now, so I'm clarifying my !vote to support a disambiguation page being created at this page to list assassination (attempts) in 2024. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 03:56, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I am against this redirect. The world doesn't revolve around America and its internal politics. This would perpetuate America-centric systemic bias on the site. JDiala (talk) 02:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: I suppose this could be redirected to List of people who survived assassination attempts, though there is only one other attempt in 2024 listed on that article (an attempt on a South Korean MP). Attempted assassination of Donald Trump is clearly the primary topic at this point in the year, and we're not supposed to speculate on if that will change in the future. It is also a very plausible search term.  C F A   💬  02:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We aren't supposed to speculate either way. And it's obvious that calling something the primary topic "this point in the year" violates WP:RECENTISM. We don't change, or even create, redirects just because something is what you think is the primary topic right now. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, you could argue it is recentism, but common sense is also useful here. This was an attempted assassination on a former US president, arguably the most powerful person in the world. It was the first time anything like this happened in more than 40 years. This is not a US news story, it's an international news story. Regardless, I'm not opposed to a redirect to the list.  C F A   💬  02:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Common sense does not mean US-centric common sense. Your entire argument here is based on a US centric view that the only important assassination (attempt) in 2024 is the one against the former president of the US. And that's why I'm !voting to redirect to another topic or delete. Because that's not a valid argument. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As I pointed out, there were only two assassination attempts in 2024 (so far) notable enough to be included in the list above. It's not really a US-centric approach because an assassination attempt against a former world leader (of arguably the most powerful country in the world) will inherently be more significant than the majority of other attempts, both in the country of origin and internationally. This was a story that was reported in local newspapers around the world. If a former president of South Korea and a congressman in the US were both targeted in assassination attempts, the one against the former president would be the primary topic. This doesn't have much to do with local bias.  C F A   💬  02:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or dabify. It's not even the only attempt with its own article in 2024 (Robert Fico). Yet another example of Americentrism.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 02:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I knew I had seen another attempted assassination of a head of state/leader of a country in 2024, but I couldn't pinpoint it. For clarity, this fact should be considered part of my argument above. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 02:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This is valid argument. I missed Robert Fico because he was not in the list of people who survived assassination attempts. There is no clear primary topic so I change my vote to disambiguate.  C F A   💬  02:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per Liliana, as Trump is not the only assassination attempt in 2024. Di (they-them) (talk) 03:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate: Yes, because there have been other attempts on other people, Trump isn't the center of the universe, and Wikipedia should not be so heavily focused on the US perspective etc. 72.14.126.22 (talk) 03:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Robert Fico, Lee Jae-Myung, probably a dozen Russian businessmen, Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Mohammed Deif (for the umpteenth time) all can lay claim to that title. The US isn't special in that regard.  Bremps  ...  05:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bremps, or dabify at List of assassination attempts in 2024 or similar. Rosbif73 (talk) 09:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This RfD concerns the fate of the page at the exact name of "2024 assassination attempt". A redirect is defined by its name. An RfD isn't needed to create new pages. About your idea for a new page: A page titled "List of assassination attempts in 2024" would be a list, not a dab. —Alalch E. 11:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate: as per above comments  Lord ' serious ' pig  10:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or disambig per above. This is too general to redirect to a single instance, the attempted assassination of Robert Fico, the prime minister of Slovakia, happened this year too (I've added it to the list article above, no idea why it wasn't there already). Google searches indicate that there have also been (events described as) assassination attempts made on Mohammed Deif and Volodymyr Zelensky at least. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * My addition was reverted because, despite the article title, it isn't a list of people but a list of people who weren't current heads of state or government (the latter having a separate list). See also my proposed merger of the two lists. I oppose retargetting this redirect to either list. Thryduulf (talk) 23:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget to anchor in List of people who survived assassination attempts. I created 2020 assassination attempt to illustrate (I don't think that this redirect and other such redirects are / would be especially good, but this not a WP:POINTed creation, as it is within acceptable bounds from my perspective). Oppose dab. A dab would practically duplicate the list, and WP:NOTDUP does not apply to disambiguation pages when the same content is served in a list (not a different navigation method—the navigation method provided would be essentially the same).—Alalch E. 11:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The issue with a redirect is that there are two separate attempted assassination lists: List of people who survived assassination attempts and List of heads of state and government who survived assassination attempts. "2024 assassination attempt" does not refer to either one specifically so a redirect would be completely arbitrary. Thryduulf has proposed these two lists be merged, which I support, but unless that happens a disambiguation page would be the best option. Nothing is duplicated in this case when there are two separate all-time lists.  C F A   💬  17:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree its too generic since as noted there have been others.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIAS; search results would handle this fine without needing to manually compile a separate search index, which also would undoubtedly suffer from systemic bias based on several comments here. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of people who survived assassination attempts where there are two relevant cases -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There is a third relevant case at List of heads of state and government who survived assassination attempts, neither is primary over the other. This is why I have (a) proposed merging (please give your input!) and (b) oppose retargetting to either one. Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:Chilodontidae-stub

 * Template:Chilodontidae-stub → Template:Chilodontaidae-gastropod-stub (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Unused. Chilodontidae is a former spelling (now regarded as incorrect) for a gastropod family. Chiodontidae is a current, correct spelling for a fish family. See the Chilodontidae dab page. Template redirect uses the spelling for the fish family to redirect to a stub sorting template for the gastropod family Plantdrew (talk) 02:00, 15 July 2024 (UTC)