Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 17

July 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 17, 2024.

big rigs redirects with no space

 * Big rigs:over the road racing → Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Big Rigs:Over the Road Racing → Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

missingspace, but it sounds like something the game itself would do  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless, especially if it (I have no opinion on that and the images in the article don't help). Thryduulf (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * if context is needed, "beating" a "race" with it earns you a crusty png of a trophy, accompanied by the text "you're winner !". it's exactly that bad. an image of that "win screen" wouldn't actually be too bad, now that you mention it  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per WP:CHEAP, it's harmless, and also... yes. This is exactly the sort of thing the game would be, the irony is NOT lost on me, and I can easily imagine hypothetical searchers intuitively applying similar logic when searching.  Very appropriate redirects for the target.  If all other rationale fail, I'd !vote keep on grounds of WP:FUNPOLICE alone! Fieari (talk) 23:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * damn that's a compelling argument, i should activate that trap card myself sometimes  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. These errors clutter Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Julie dreyfuss

 * Julie dreyfuss → Julie Dreyfus (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

I propose the deletion of this redirect. The d not being captalized aside, there is an extra s at the end of the redirect's name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LucasMRB (talk • contribs) 22:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. The double s seems like a very plausible misspelling and being all lowercase doesn't change that. Thryduulf (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. Another valid and harmless R from miscapitalisation and R from misspelling. CycloneYoris talk! 00:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per CycloneYoris. TheRollBoss001 (talk) 15:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. This redirect has two errors and may cause confusion because Julia Dreyfuss redirects to Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

The Lion King ( 2019 soundtrack)

 * The Lion King ( 2019 soundtrack) → The Lion King (2019 soundtrack) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Karl Hagedorn ( German American painter) → Karl Hagedorn (1922–2005) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Kavach ( 2016 TV series) → Kavach (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Knickerbocker Building ( New Rochelle, New York) → Knickerbocker Building (New Rochelle, New York) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Marthas ( Handmaid's Tale) → The Handmaid's Tale (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Moshe Mizrahi ( basketball) → Moshe Mizrahi (basketball) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Draft:Moshe Mizrahi ( basketball) → Moshe Mizrahi (basketball) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Not In My Name ( Protest In India) → Cow vigilante violence in India (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Paramathi Velur ( Namakkal district) → Paramathi Velur (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Isolation ( Kali Uchis album) → Isolation (Kali Uchis album) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * The Trouble with Angels ( Filter album) → The Trouble with Angels (Filter album) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Todd County Courthouse ( Long Prairie, Minnesota)">Todd County Courthouse ( Long Prairie, Minnesota) → Todd County Courthouse (Minnesota) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Brave ( Hanna Ferm song)">Brave ( Hanna Ferm song) → Brave (Hanna Ferm song) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Squidward Nose ( Cupcakke Song)">Squidward Nose ( Cupcakke Song) → Squidward Nose (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Stafford Road ( closed 1852) railway station">Stafford Road ( closed 1852) railway station → Stafford Road (closed 1852) railway station (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Open Technologies Alliance (GFOSS )">Open Technologies Alliance (GFOSS ) → Open Technologies Alliance (GFOSS) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Sama ( Matthew Shipp and Sabir Mateen album)">Sama ( Matthew Shipp and Sabir Mateen album) → Sama (Matthew Shipp and Sabir Mateen album) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Volver ( Enrico Rava / Dino Saluzzi Quintet album)">Volver ( Enrico Rava / Dino Saluzzi Quintet album) → Volver (Enrico Rava and Dino Saluzzi album) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

WP:RDAB pages with extra spaces between the parentheses created in error. WP:G6 probably doesn't apply due to the previous RFD these have gone through. Unlike that last RFD though, which included redirects that got a lot of pageviews, none of these get enough views to consider useful (highest is 4 I think, most have 0). Nickps (talk) 21:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Provided the equivalent pages without the extraneous space in their titles exist as either articles or redirects to articles, I say delete them all -- &mdash; The Anome (talk) 23:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * All of them exist without the spaces except Karl Hagedorn ( German American painter) and Not In My Name ( Protest In India) which are in Karl Hagedorn (German-American painter) and Not In my name (protest In India). Not In My Name (Protest In India) is a miscapitalisation we don't need to create but I'm not opposed to Karl Hagedorn (German American painter) if anyone wants it. Squidward Nose (Cupcakke Song) didn't exist when you wrote your comment but I've since created it. Nickps (talk) 23:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've just created the second of these, and agree with you that the first is not worth creating. Given that, I think we can now speedy delete all of the nominated malformed redirects. &mdash; The Anome (talk) 09:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete all: as malformed redirects where the proper versions exist. Schützenpanzer   (Talk)  14:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all. WP:RDAB failures. Steel1943  (talk) 15:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all these errors. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Copa do brasil 2011

 * Copa do brasil 2011 → 2011 Copa do Brasil (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

I propose the deletion of the redirect. The redirect is misspelled ("brasil" should have the b captalized). — Preceding unsigned comment added by LucasMRB (talk • contribs) 21:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Valid and harmless R from miscapitalisation. <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per CycloneYoris. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. It's very common for people to search in all lowercase and some methods of searching are case sensitive. Thryduulf (talk) 23:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * keep per "yeah, people do that". the misconception that brazil is real aside, those miscapitalizations are fine. it's only really when something has completely fucked up capitalization (like "2011 COPa do BRasil" or "2011 CoPa Do BrAsIl") that it becomes a problem  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

a number of gods between 4 and 6

 * Five Gods → Wufang Shangdi (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * The Five Gods → Super Smash Bros. in esports (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

not sure if recentism applies with mythology and a thing that ended in 2018, but the five gods of melee seem to be the primary topic for this specific term (the word "the" notwithstanding). should they be retargeted to one or the other, kept, or disambiguated, and on the former two cases, should they get hatnotes?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 20:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget The Five Gods to Wufang Shangdi as the primary topic by long-term significance, and put a hatnote there to Super Smash Bros. in esports. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Degi dialect

 * Degi dialect → Okinoerabu dialect cluster (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned in any capacity at the target. Unclear how/why this redirect would make sense. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * All of my recent mass redirects of Ryukyuan languages come from the supplementary metadata of UniCog (unicog_meta_v1.xlsx) and Nakamoto (1981:459-463) (図説琉球語辞典). Degi is a subarea of Okinoerabu (though information is very obscure; but see here for a postal code number list of Okinoerabu which includes Degi). Chuterix (talk) 21:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Jigsaw Puzzle (album)

 * <span id="Jigsaw Puzzle (album)">Jigsaw Puzzle (album) → A Quick One (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

The details of An early version of the Who's second album was to be titled Jigsaw Puzzle was removed by here, and without this material, this redirect is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Stupidgate

 * Stupidgate → Henry Louis Gates arrest controversy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Delete it. It's existence implies that "Stupidgate" is common shorthand for the controversy, which it is not. "Stupidgate" longer appears in the article and none of the (many) uses of "stupidgate" online are for this controversy. No Wikipedia pages use the redirect. Here's a note that claims that "stupidgate" was only ever used this way by one Fox commentator. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * delete per nom, but i'll also recommend using twinkle for rfd purposes, as this nomination was placed at the bottom of the page for some reason (but was otherwise not malformed, good job), and keeping in mind that the possessive form of "it" is "its" (no apostrophe, very important)  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:26, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete - Google indicates that while this term is used, it is generally not used for this, and it's not consistent what the term IS used for so a retarget wouldn't make sense. Basically, it's an ambiguous term used ad hoc to insult any controversy. Fieari (talk) 23:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Fieari. &mdash; The Anome (talk) 09:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Kernel service

 * Kernel service → Glossary of computer science (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

trying again  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 15:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * nominated by @Jtbwikiman, with the following comment
 * This redirect is completely inappropriate. I'm proposing that we change it to redirect to Kernel until someone wants to make a new article for Kernel Services.
 * i nominated it again because the original nomination was malformed  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 15:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Kernel (operating system) per nom, in default of it being promoted to a full article. Tevildo (talk) 17:26, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Digimon World Re：Digitize

 * <span id="Digimon World Re：Digitize">Digimon World Re：Digitize → Digimon World Re:Digitize (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

that's a completely different type of colon. not sure who would write the title in english, switch to a japanese keyboard setting to add that specific colon and nothing else, and then back to a latin one to write the rest  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete as implausible mixed-script redirect. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 13:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm an EFL teacher to native Japanese speakers and see my students do this kind of thing all the time. Random "full-width" punctuation and spaces everywhere when they try writing in English. No comment as to whether or not that makes it keepable, but just needed to say... yes, they do this. No, I don't know why, no matter how many times I tell them not to. Fieari (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * On reflection, coming back to add: I do know why they do this. Japanese keyboards have a button to switch between hiragana/kanji, katakana, and romaji modes, as well as some other modes as well.  Japanese users are very familiar with switching between modes multiple times within a single sentence in order to type the characters they need.  So they are typing in romaji mode to type the less familiar English characters/words, but then they suddenly come across a character they are used to much more, the colon!  So they switch back to kana input to put in the familiar character before switching back to romaji mode to continue typing the unfamiliar parts.  As I said, it happens A LOT despite my best efforts to curtail it ("Just keep it on romaji while in English class!") Fieari (talk) 07:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * this is almost as cursed as turning caps lock on and off for each individual capital letter. still, i don't think it's plausible to do that with an originally japanese game on english wikipedia, but that's a possible wrench in the plan  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 15:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I think Fieari presented a good argument on why Japanese speakers might use this redirect. Since redirects have low maintanance burden and the subject is a Japanese game, keep. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  02:46, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Digimon world:re:digitize

 * Digimon world:re:digitize → Digimon World Re:Digitize (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

missing a space as well, but this one might make a little sense if you're thinking of emails. still voting for deletion, but will give it the benefit of the doubt  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

malformed digimon redirects

 * <span id="Digimon:Digital Monsters (anime)">Digimon:Digital Monsters (anime) → Digimon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * DIGIMON:Digital Monsters → Digimon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Digimon:Digital Monsters → Digimon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

missingspace too  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Likely spelling variant. Some readers may not realize it is common to put a space after the subtitle. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  15:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: all have errors. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

This Might Be A Wiki

 * This Might Be A Wiki → They Might Be Giants (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

really funny, but only linked at the end of the article (and cited 4 times, which i will provide no input on), and not mentioned otherwise  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Thoughts on Lunamann's suggestion to remove content from the target? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. As it stands, this is a correctly targeted redirect-- while it's a tiny amount of information, it IS still SOME information that we have regarding the redirect title. However, and this is such a big however that I'm going to put it in bold, I don't believe this piece of information should stay on the article. While tmbw.net boasts that the official They Might Be Giants site links to them (in multiple places), the current site... doesn't. And not only are there no citations for the inclusion of TMBW on the Wikipedia page, I also don't believe they're a reliable source; it's in the same ballpark as WP:FANDOM-- heck, TMBW's own About page mentions that Wikia (which later became Fandom) offered to host the wiki on their servers, and they declined because they... wanted more control than Wikia offered?That said, at the end of the day, this is a discussion about the redirect, not the information being redirected to. And as it stands, the information is there-- so if someone wants to find it, this is where it is. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * i agree with her suggestion, but will leave the removal to someone who actually knows a thing or two about they might be giants  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia

 * <span id="Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia">Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia → Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

It is not clear why this redirects here. "Port Royal" itself is ambiguous, and there's no mention of "Port Royal" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There is such a place (not sure if linking google maps like that works), it just doesn't have an article at present. It had been a stub before being redirected and the corresponding mention of it in Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) was removed a few years ago. I've no idea if the place is notable in any way. older ≠ wiser 20:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * It's certainly not notable enough to warrant a proper article. About 15 years ago, somebody created an article for it but it's no more than a hamlet on Isle Madame, NS.   PK  T (alk)  15:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Saint John Rivers

 * Saint John Rivers → Jane Eyre (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Delete because it's nonsense, as pointed out by in this summary] by User:Masato.harada Enyavar (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete The name of the Jane Eyre character is St John Rivers. Even if the redirect page's name were corrected, there is no reason for its existence compared with dozens of other characters of equal importance in the novel. Masato.harada (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * admittedly uninformed, but i'd say weak keep as a plausible-ish spelling, as is the case with "john saint john" redirecting to the "proper" name. on another note, is there some weird technical reason the nomination was improperly formatted?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cogsan. I don't see how this is implausible at all, especially if one heard it aurally. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Please note that I came across it when searching for the various Saint John Rivers, and that disambiguation page already lists the character but also provides links to the more likely meanings. If we keep it, change the target to the disamb page. (And if you want properly formatted nominations, I suggest streamlining this byzantine nomination procedure.) --Enyavar (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Re "if heard aurally": the name St John is pronounced Sinjen, not Saint John, so there should be no confusion. Masato.harada (talk) 08:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * See, the problem is that is assuming the reader would know that's the correct pronunciation. I personally would assume it would be "Saint John" being from the U.S. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Saint John River per Enyavar. The character is listed there, and it's a plausible search term. Tevildo (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I originally created the redirect as it was a quiz bowl answer in Stanford Archive answers. Cheers, Jack (talk) 11:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Saint John River. Much better as a disambiguation page.  C F A   💬  18:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * KEEP. It's not nonsense. "St" is short for "saint", even when it's used in somebody's name. People with "Saint" in their names almost always use the abbreviated version, but I can point you at some notable exceptions. I remember Susan Saint James getting very cranky when journalists didn't spell out "saint." Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 19:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget this ambiguous term to the disambiguation page Saint John River. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Super Nintend

 * Super Nintend → Super Nintendo Entertainment System (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

implausible misspelling, search function will complete it anywa  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: From my own notes in the redirect, a pirated game cartridge had used that misspelling (I don't remember which one) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete not a plausible misspelling and unless the pirated cartridge is mentioned somewhere is not relevant to this discussion.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:RDEL #8. Extremely obscure from my searches, only finding apparent typos. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  15:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Keep or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:RTYPO, as it only has one error. I do not find it implausible, especially given WhisperToMe's compelling statement. If this has occurred on official material, it may be a redirect with possibilities (i.e we may cover it somewhere or someday). — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 17:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * While I see some typos as plausible I don’t see missing the O in Nintendo as likely it’s not something like a silent letter or unusual combination of letters where a typo would be more expected. Also I don’t believe the existence of a pirate cart that hasn’t appeared to be covered anywhere on Wikipedia for the 12 year period that this redirect existed as compelling whatsoever. Finally, while I may be wrong, I see keeping this because we may at a later date cover the pirate cart to be a WP:CRYSTAL issue--67.70.101.117 (talk) 16:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep the system is generally known as the "Super Nintendo", as such this redirect is only missing the final letter, thus a single character typo by ommision of the final, a very common form of typo -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 08:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:PANDORA and as an implausible typo. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I disagree that PANDORA applies in this case. It is not formatted as a phrase or obscure in the way described therein. It is not reasonable to assume people will start to search for titles without the last letter (or an "o" specifically) because this exists. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 21:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not plausible: Nintend doesn't exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Your Mileage May Vary

 * Your Mileage May Vary → TV Tropes (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

used in other places as well, though the title case might imply something more specific. retarget to your mileage may vary (which is itself a soft redirect to wiktionary), or leave as is?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Your mileage may vary. The phrase hasn't been part of the TV Tropes article since it was in 2021. The only proper name in an article is an unreferenced mention of a short story in The Morganville Vampires series. I think it would be more helpful to readers to direct them to the Wiktionary article instead of an obscure story. - Eureka Lott 02:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Crosswiki to Wiktionary - We don't have an article or any other information on this phrase, may as well get the searcher to its definition since we have that. Fieari (talk) 06:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Since Wiktionary doesn't cover the capitalized version, I'm assuming you mean your mileage may vary. Your mileage may vary is already a soft redirect to that page, so we should point the capitalized version there to eliminate the need to maintain multiple Wiktionary redirects. - Eureka Lott 17:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete We already have the lowercase version going to Wiktionary, that's pretty much all that is needed. This is redundant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * retarget to Your mileage may vary. Searching in title case for something commonly abbreviated in allcaps is highly plausible and some methods of finding Wikipedia content are case sensitive. We gain absolutely nothing by deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Your mileage may vary as R from other capitalisation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Karen (Pokémon)

 * <span id="Karen (Pokémon)">Karen (Pokémon) → List of Pokémon characters (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

The character is not mentioned in the target article, rendering the redirect pointless. ZFT (talk) 04:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment While I'm not really that knowledgeable about pokemon myself, Bulbapedia says Karen is one of the Elite Four in Kanto and Johto for multiple of the games. I note that other Elite Four characters are included in the list for some, but not all regions.  It seems like it would be consistent to add her (and the others of the four?) to the list, which would then warrant keeping this redirect... but I'm not really sure what the list inclusion criteria for this list are or should be. Fieari (talk) 07:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - Karen's lack of notability in Pokémon is a bit of a Wikipedia joke. She's an example at WP:Pokémon test (which even has the shortcut WP:KAREN), and was an april fools joke in 2022 based on that. <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🦗👻 07:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I definitely wouldn't give her a standalone article... but I do wonder about list inclusion.  It seems plausible that she has enough significance for that... but has there been any consensus on that?  Any specific list inclusion criteria set? Fieari (talk) 07:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Unless some sort of evidence of her notability comes to light that allows her to sensibly be added to the list. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * i don't even remember what her type is, and if the unova elite four (aka the best characters until guzma, don't @ me, i'm right) aren't mentioned at all, karen might as well not even be in the games. delete, and don't look back  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I keep asking, and I'm genuinely trying to find out because I don't know: what is the inclusion criteria for the list? WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST isn't a good argument by itself... but I agree it would be a good argument if it establishes actual list inclusion criteria.  Can you help me out here? Fieari (talk) 23:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * in case of doubt, i'd say the only real criterion in this case is being talked about by sources not considered unreliable in more detail than "hey look it's karen, anyway". kind of why greninja doesn't have a proper article (at the moment)  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 13:46, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Tmk the list seems to really only be including "significant" characters within the context of the series (Those who play an important role in the plot of a game, those who have a recurring status, etc) but again criteria is unclear. I do believe it'd be worthwhile to start a discussion on it at some point. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Given her history on the Wiki it feels bizarre but there's really no valid redirect target for her. I briefly considered Pokémon test but I doubt that'd be valid on the off chance someone is actually searching for the character. A shame, but there's really no alternative. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete for now, mainspace is for the readers and having some relevance in the inside history of Wikipedia doesn't mean the redirect should be kept. However, I'm surprised that Kanto's Elite Four is mentioned but not the others, given that the source supporting it also discusses the other Elite Fours. If that source is used to expand the article and mention Karen, I wouldn't be opposed to the redirect being kept/recreated. Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 20:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank

 * <span id="Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank">Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank → Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

While the Cambridge Analytica affair may be related to the case (and the current target should probably be linked in a future article at the redirect), the target article makes no mention of the SCOTUS lawsuit named in the redirect. I don't think someone would search for the lawsuit looking for information on the scandal, and so I believe this is a good candidate to return to red in hopes someone will create an article for the case. Ham tech  person  02:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Fieari (talk) 07:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Magik (film)
Situation I haven't run into here: This was a BLAR to an article that does not currently mention the subject, but restoring the article would go against WP:NFF, which means there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell that the article would survive AfD. I think the best approach is restore article but draftify, which is the better way to incubate something in development hell anyways. (Normally I wouldn't take something to RfD just to !vote restore, since anyone can do that, but if I were to unilaterally restore and draftify I feel like that would be backdoor deletion of the redirect.) -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <span id="Magik (film)">Magik (film) → Benedict Cumberbatch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="Magik (2015 film)">Magik (2015 film) → Benedict Cumberbatch (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]


 * Restore/Draftify per nom. You make a good case for it, and I appreciate the reasoning for going through the RfD process.  Fieari (talk) 01:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Although back in 2018 and 2019 it was restored twice so I think it probably should be restored and sent to AFD per WP:BLA and if it is desired to disambiguate (if the 2024 one is different) then the edit history should be moved to Magik (2018 film) and redirected to Magik (disambiguation) per WP:INCDAB.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Bundling the related redirect Magik (2015 film). Hyphenation Expert (talk) 04:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)