Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 18

July 18
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 18, 2024.

Heartless Angel

 * Heartless Angel → Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

a recurring attack for sephiroth in a lot of his appearances since his debut... but also for kefka. if both appear in a playable or boss form in any given game, heartless angel tends to go to whoever pops up first, which is usually kefka. if you want to be technical, sephiroth gets it more often overall because he gets more appearances, but results seem to associate it equally with both (give or take sephiroth being mentioned more often overall). even then, heartless angel isn't mentioned in either of their articles. if not deleted, i don't know if it should be kept there or retargeted to kefka, to final fantasy#gameplay, or to recurring elements in the final fantasy series#gameplay, because it'd be hard to cram an unsourced mention (or worse, a mention with a guide as the source) into those otherwise good or featured articles  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment - Soooo... the move gets a "kind of" mention in Kefka's article, as "Fallen Angel", although the actual Woolsey translation rendered it in game as "Fallen One" on the SNES (as can be confirmed by looking up a playthrough on youtube). This is the move that got commentary from a reliable source, and was worth the mention in the article.  Now, I believe you're probably right that it's been updated in newer versions/releases of the game to Heartless Angel, as the Final Fantasy fandom wiki uses that term, but it doesn't seem to have garnered any commentary in reliable sources.  Google, on the other hand, shows overwhelming preference to linking the term with Sephiroth instead of Kefka, likely due to the relative popularity of FFVII over FFVI... except that most if not all of these hits I'm finding are not from WP:RS.  Which leaves us in the awkward position where there's clear analysis that would be interesting to discuss... that we can't use because none of it has gone through editorial publishing processes.  I can't decide whether that means we should delete the redirect because we don't really have information on exactly it under that name, redirect to Kefka because the thing this redirect refers to IS directly named and described there... except under a different name (which is even incorrect, despite being published in a WP:RS!), or to keep the redirect because usage online clearly prefers Sephiroth as the WP:PTOPIC even though we don't and probably can't mention it there! Fieari (talk) 02:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The fact that the Kefka article mentioned "Fallen Angel" as the name of the move bothered me enough that I added an endnote with the correction, and a mention to the renaming of it to Heartless Angel. Not sure if this is the best way to go about it, but surely the primary source material can be used just for a correction of this sort. Fieari (talk) 03:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * at this point, i'd say nuke it until a reliable source decides to cover the attack (and actually get the name right)
 * also yeah, i did say results preferred sephiroth, because ff7 is the only final fantasy game people can remember the existence of for more than 15 seconds. coverage of final fantasy elements kind of sucks tbh  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Magical underwear
I belive this redirect should be deleated. This redirect is inappropriate and offensive, often leading to confusion. In addition please see Magic underwear. The term 'magical underwear' is frequently used as an insult rather than in an academic or educational context. In addition the originial creater of the redirect was banned for valdisimilm, see his user page. LuxembourgLover (talk) 23:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Magical underwear → Temple garment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Magic underwear → Temple garment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]


 * Keep - Redirects are allowed to violate WP:NPOV, and even be offensive, as they are generally not user visible. I appreciate your concern, as no one likes things that are special to them insulted... I get it. But the term is used out there in the wild often enough that someone wanting to learn more about it, even in a respectful way, may not have any other knowledge of how to find it except this insult that gets used a lot... and towards that end the redirect may end up doing a lot more good than harm to you anyway. Fieari (talk) 23:53, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep, it is definitely a term that people use to refer to it, probably even moreso than "temple garment." Google trends shows that "magic underwear" or "mormon magic underwear" is more popular of a search term than "temple garment" so it checks out. The Ngram viewer shows that "temple garment" is winning, but that makes sense as it is the more academic term, as you said. PersusjCP (talk) 02:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment The redirect Magic underwear was tagged, but never added to the nomination. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 03:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep these are both well-attested and unambiguous. Per WP:RNEUTRAL redirects from established non-neutral search terms to neutrally written articles are allowed and often a good thing - if someone doesn't know or doesn't remember the proper name we want to make it easy for them to find the content that tells them about it. Thryduulf (talk) 09:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

User:Carlinal/Favorite quality articles
 Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted  by Fastily per U1. (non-admin closure) Nickps (talk) 01:33, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * User:Carlinal/Favorite quality articles → User:Carlinal/Favorite recognized content (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Hi, I'd like to delete this user subpage redirect if possible; I just don't find it necessary since there is no page linked to here or the main target page. Carlinal (talk) 23:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment - Hey Carlinal. If you want to delete your own user page of any sort, just put Db-u1 or Db-userreq at the top of it, and an admin will come along shortly and get rid of it for you.  See WP:UCSD for more details. Fieari (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Kit 2

 * Kit 2 → Tomahawk (missile family) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

deletion, due to no article linking to this redirect. D4n2016 (talk) 21:39, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep - Articles linking to redirects is not the primary purpose of redirects-- the primary purpose is to help readers find the information they are looking for, such as by typing it into the search bar. If someone is looking for information on the "Kit 2", this article has that information.  Fieari (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - BGM-109 Tomahawk has been recently moved to Tomahawk (missile family) so we should update to avoid the double-redirect. ⇒   SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 01:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, good catch! I should have noticed that.  Yeah, update it to avoid the double redirect. Fieari (talk) 02:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have now fixed the double redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 22:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Stun ray

 * Stun ray → Weapons in science fiction (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

The subject of the redirect is not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what subject this redirect is meant to define. From a preliminary search of Wikipedia, it seems this redirect is mentioned nowhere. Steel1943 (talk) 21:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak retarget to stun gun, which mentions the current target. Hesitant because 'stun weapons' are not really described at that target. Might be better to return this to red for now. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 21:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm legitimately befuddled that this isn't mentioned and discussed in detail at the target article, given how much a staple it is in sci-fi. Making a character sleep without actually hurting them is just such a USEFUL thing for a writer to be able to do, that even in non-scifi works you get things like that one punch that harmlessly KOs you, or chloroform, or a sleeping drug or whatever.  In sci-fi, they definitely use stun guns all the time, from Star Wars to Star Trek and beyond.  It's a trope for a reason.  Normally, when I feel like article creation should be encouraged I !vote delete to redlink it, but here, I don't think it deserves its own article at all... I just think it should be included in this one.  Err... not that I'm volunteering to write it though.  Not sure what to do in this situation. Fieari (talk) 23:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Raygun - it's a scifi weapon that shoots rays, that mentions stunning: A wide range of non-lethal functions as determined by the requirements of the story: for instance, they may stun, paralyze or knock down a target, much like modern electroshock weapons.. BugGhost 🦗👻 12:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Jerry Temporary

 * Jerry Temporary → Temporary Secretary (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

a misremembering of the song's name that became a siivagunner meme. not mentioned in the target or notable on its own, BUT it might actually be a plausible search, as it's ironically become a common misremembering later on (or siiva is just that influential on public musical knowledge, it's hard to tell). opinions?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep - I don't know who siivagunner is but googling the phrase "Jerry Temporary" comes up with lots of Temporary Secretary hits. Redirects are cheap, if it helps someone get to the right article then it's worth keeping (and it get a lot more hits than most things on RfD). BugGhost 🦗👻 13:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

VF2

 * VF2 → Virtua Fighter 2 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

There is also Vanadium(II) fluoride and the vf2 algorithm from Graph_isomorphism. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate per 1234. 88.235.215.238 (talk) 11:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. –Laundry<b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 17:11, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate. Draft provided. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:55, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Andy youre a star

 * Andy youre a star → Hot Fuss (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

This redirect is misspelled, it should be "Andy, You're a Star". Correct spelling already exists. Apollo getticax |<sup style="color:green"> talk  08:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, seems harmless. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Distribution Center Management System

 * Distribution Center Management System → Distribution center management system (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Redirect should replace the target article so it uses title-case spelling. Article is about a specific proprietary system, not the general concept; the sentence-case spelling can redirect to Warehouse management system, which is the general concept. Tule-hog (talk) 06:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Bigrigs

 * Bigrigs → Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

i think it should be retargeted, but should it be to semi-trailer truck, or to big rig (disambiguation)?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 18:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:42, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Semi-trailer truck: Since this is the primary topic, it would serve readers best to redirect here. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment in my searches, the primary topic is actually Big Rigs, an Australian magazine that at first glance might be notable (I've not looked deeper than that) but which doesn't have an article. The semi-truck page does have a hatnote to the dab page, which lists the video game prominently however that is two clicks rather than none. Thryduulf (talk) 02:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment on a related note, I've just created Bigrig as a redirect to Bigrigg (a village in the UK) and added a hatnote to the truck and dab page, but I debated with myself which target is best so feel free to discuss if you think I made the wrong choice. Thryduulf (talk) 02:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * REtarget "bigrigs" and "bigrig" to Semi-trailer truck, as the primary topic. In North America, no Australian magazine would ever come up, since the truck is what is meant -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 08:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Nothing about Wikipedia or "Bigrigs" is inherently North American. Thryduulf (talk) 11:40, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Semi-trailer truck solely due to the fact that Big rig and Big rigs target Semi-trailer truck and making the connections a best effort to reduce astonishment upon arriving at any specific target. (If need be though, I am weak disambiguate upon reading the regional discrepancies of English with the terms.) Steel1943  (talk) 21:24, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Semi-trailer truck as WP:PTOPIC. It's what the term actually means, after all, even in the current target. I don't believe the Australian Magazine is even close in terms of being searched for, no dab is needed here. Not even sure a hatnote would be warranted, but I wouldn't object to one outright. Fieari (talk) 23:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget Bigrigs to semi-trailer truck as per above. Keep Bigrig going to Bigrigg. <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🦗👻 13:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Using Search tells us there's only 2 legitimate mentions of this term and they're both for the Australian magazine, for which we don't have an article. We shouldn't randomly guess what a Searcher wants. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Super Smash Bros. 6

 * Super Smash Bros. 6 → Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]


 * SSB 6 → Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]


 * SSB6 → Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned in the target. No information about a video game named Super Smash Bros. 6 exists in the target article or in Super Smash Bros. Mia Mahey (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * delete as wrong. ultimate is the 5st installment  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 22:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * see below. Some call it the sixth. Not arguing that's correct, but it's plausible at least. Sergecross73   msg me  23:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * that's if you ignore the fact that smash for 3ds and that other console are both commonly referred to as "sm4sh", and clumped together as two different flavors of the same installment by pretty much everyone less pedantic than me. ironically, nintendo considers them to be separate, but even the article reduces that to note c, accompanied by "but who cares about those guys, most sources say they're both smash 4"  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * None of that changes that its a plausible search term, with sourcing and notes to clear up confusion. Again, I'm not saying its the sixth title. I'm not arguing anyone should think that. I'm saying its a plausible redirect because some people think that, and some sources outline it. Sergecross73   msg me  13:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - it is the sixth entry in the Smash Bros if you consider the 3DS and Wii versions separate games, which some developers/sources do. Sergecross73   msg me  23:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The target does not state that it is the sixth entry in the series instead of the fifth. This redirect will be misleading when a sixth Super Smash Bros. game is released. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * A reliably sourced mention of how some consider it the sixth entry could be very easily implemented. Additionally, there's no need to right now future-proof the article for a future game that hasn't even been announced to exist yet. Sergecross73   msg me  23:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * People searching for Super Smash Bros. 6 are most likely looking for information on a successor of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. No information on such game exists in the target article, or for that matter, anywhere on Wikipedia, so the redirect is harmful and should be deleted per WP:COSTLY. Mia Mahey (talk) 00:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree with that notion. Why would people be searching for an unannounced game that currently isn't know to exist with this search term? And if someone was knowledgeable enough to use a relatively rare search term like "Smash Bros 6" in a search bar, they'd be knowledgeable enough to understand what Smash Bros Ultimate is. So your confusion scenario feels rather far fetched to me, I don't know what sort of person this would apply to. Doubly so since I've maintained the Ultimate page since its inception and thus has not been a common issue.  Sergecross73   msg me  02:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Usually only major video games in a series are numbered, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is only the fifth major Super Smash Bros. game. If Super Smash Bros. 6 redirects to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, on the basis of the 3DS and Wii U releases being treated as separate games, I think we should probably also have Mario Kart 9 redirect to Mario Kart 8, which we don't and we shouldn't. Mia Mahey (talk) 04:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * by that logic, which one would be 5 anyway?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 13:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This is irrelevant. There's never been any discussion or consensus that Mario Kart is handling it correctly either, so it's no standard to aspire to. It's just an WP:OSE-violating comparison. Sergecross73   msg me  13:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Super Smash Bros for 3DS and Super Smash Bros for Wii U are both Smash 4, and neither are Smash 5. They did release on separate days, with Wii U being released after 3DS, but they were released literally two months apart, were clearly developed together, and they have several methods of transferring data between the two platforms; it's highly probable that they only released separately due to delays. They also share a Wikipedia page, shared advertising space, pretty much everywhere you go they're talked about as one unit instead of two separate games-- much like, for example, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team and Red Rescue Team, another instance of one game with two names on two different Nintendo consoles with different capabilities. (If you throw out the 'two different consoles' thing, pretty much any first-of-the-gen Pokemon game in the history of ever, from Pokemon Red and Blue all the way to Pokémon Scarlet and Violet are examples of this in action. (Like, what, are you saying that Pokémon Emerald is Pokemon 13 or something???) Because of this, Smash Ultimate is clearly Smash 5, and thus, Smash 6 would logically be the next entry of the series after Smash Ultimate, a game that does not exist. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * no, let's make it worse
 * red + green (jp) > blue (jp) > stadium (jp) > yellow > red + blue (not jp) > hey you, pikachu > tcg (game boy) > snap > pinball > "stadium" (actually stadium 2) > gold + silver > dance! pikachu > puzzle challenge > puzzle league > "stadium 2" (actually stadium gold and silver) > crystal > pikachu's great surfing adventure > tcg 2 > crayon kids > party mini > zany cards > pinball mini > puzzle collection > tetris > breeder mini (wait what) > puzzle collection vol. 2 > race mini > catch the numbers > pichu bros. mini > togepi's great adventure > ruby + sapphire > box r&s > channel > pinball r&s > channel > pinball r&s > some hiragana and katakana education game > colosseum > firered + leafgreen > pico for everyone > emerald
 * thus, emerald is the 46nd installment in the pokémon franchise, or the 14st mainline installment  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 20:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Is that jan Misali reference I'm seeing? :D Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  01:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * a what  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm getting into WP:NOTFORUM territory, but they published a video exploring a similar question but for Super Mario mainline series. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  06:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * oh, that one. my dumb brain forgot it wasn't from summoning salt. whoops  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Again, you're both arguing what's "correct" instead of arguing what's plausible. Whether it's the correct numbering is irrelevant. Some people (not me) believe it to be true, and the alternative is a game that doesn't even exist. We don't need to future proof for scenarios that may not ever even happen. It can be easily and quickly fixed as things potentially change someday. Sergecross73   msg me  00:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Super Smash Bros. - only mention of "Smash Bros. 6" on Wikipedia is from that article, talking about a Bandai Namco recruitment page stating: The recruitment page consisted of a listing for programmers for "Smash Bros. 6", which was expected to be released in 2015 for both the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS", which is likely why the redirect exists in the first place. It being mentioned there is just a happy coincidence though - the main reason why I am saying it should go to Super Smash Bros. rather than Super Smash Bros. Ultimate directly is because the lengthy discussions above shows that there is ambiguity that SB6 would refer to Ultimate or some future/non-existent game, and Super Smash Bros. is directly above a "Future" section, so this redirect would cover both bases. As an aside, I don't think the above discussions need to be continued - regardless of anyone's views, I think the outcome is obvious that there's no clear primary topic - we now just need to find the best way of disambiguating. <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🪲👻 08:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Bundled with the other two redirects as suggested above. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * while this discussion goes nowhere, i should note ssb6 and ssb 6 also exist, and could be added here  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 19:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete the SSB redirects, Keep "Super Smash Bros. 6". From the above discussion, it appears that "Smash Bros. 6" has been used to refer to "Ultimate", and it's a plausible search term.  The fact that it's wrong shouldn't be relevant - otherwise, we'd need to delete Me109.  Tevildo (talk) 17:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Super Smash Bros. without a section redirect. Quite frankly, anything after the "4" designation is up for debate since some people consider the Wii U and 3DS versions "4" collectively, but others consider them "4" and "5" collectively. Let the readers try to figure out what the heck they are trying to find if searching these terms because we are not mind readers. Steel1943  (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Would also support this <span style="border-radius:3px;padding:2px 3px;background:#ffc3b3;color:#552a2a;font-weight:bold;font-family:monospace">BugGhost 🦗👻 08:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

redirects to unmanned combat aerial vehicle

 * military drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * combat drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * combat drones → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * armed drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * weaponized drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * attack drone → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * battlefield UAV → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * battlefield unmanned aerial vehicle → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * non-US battlefield UAVs → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="International Battlefield UAVs (2)">International Battlefield UAVs (2) → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * <span id="International Battlefield UAVs (1)">International Battlefield UAVs (1) → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * International Battlefield UAVs → unmanned combat aerial vehicle (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

These need retargetting, as these are not specific to UCAV. Military drones can be unarmed, such as the Global Hawk, and most target drones (Q-planes) like the QF-4 (retired fighter converted to target drone). Armed drones are not restricted to UCAVs, such as sea drones operated by Ukraine that have sunk many Russian ships. On the Ukrainian battlefield, armed and unarmed land drones (unmanned ground vehicle -- UGV) also are being used, as are armed and unarmed aerial drones (UAV - unmanned aerial vehicle). Both the US and China have demonstrated drone tanks and robot dogs with machine guns. Police have tracked ground drones armed with shotguns, so not just militaries have armed drones. UXOD and landmine clearing also use military ground drones.

-- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 13:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Any further thoughts? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 02:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment and  should probably have a round robin swap, since the edit history is located at (1) and no significant history is located at the base name. That would allow deletion of (1) and  as useless numbered redirects from old swaps -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 14:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment if there is no better target, they should retarget to drone (disambiguation) page, that lists various types of drones. -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete International Battlefield UAVs and International Battlefield UAVs (2), as they appear to have been created during a botched round robin move. Then move International Battlefield UAVs (1) to International Battlefield UAVs without leaving a redirect, as its revision history is likely worth keeping.  At the moment, I'm not sure what to do about the rest, but I agree that their current target is not optimal. -  ZLEA  T \ C 05:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Upon further thought, I believe the best course of action for the others would be to make Military drone a disambiguation page and retarget the rest to it. - ZLEA  T \ C 17:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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