Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 3

June 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 3, 2024.

Roman Catholid Diocese of Down and Connor
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 12%23Roman Catholid Diocese of Down and Connor

WWE Day 1
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . with no prejudice in article-ification (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me!  14:21, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * WWE Day 1 → WWE Day 1 (2022) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Per a 2023 RM, we have articles at WWE Day 1 (2022) and WWE Day 1 (2024). Make dab; no primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 14:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 20:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment WWE Day 1 (2024) links to it in its lead sentence, could it be made into a broader article than a dab, or are the similarities too superficial? Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 23:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambig without prejudice to writing an article per both above. Thryduulf (talk) 22:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Glasgow Seltic
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 23:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Glasgow Seltic → Celtic F.C. (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Unlikely spelling and searching for anything similar will get the right page anyway. Lithopsian (talk) 19:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. "Seltic" is the phonetic spelling and thus a plausible search term. Unambiguous plausible search terms should take readers directly to the content they are looking for unless there is a good reason not to, but no such reason has been suggested here. Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep plausible mishearing/ misspelling -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete It's highly unlike anyone would directly type that, they spell Glasgow right and Celtic wrong? Unnecessary pointless redirect. Govvy (talk) 08:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Why is it unlikely that people will search for something that sounds like "Glasgow Seltic" using the search term "Glasgow Seltic"? Remember that in nearly(?) all non-sporting contexts "Celtic" is pronounced with a hard C sound (/kɛl.tɪk/) so it's not unreasonable for people, especially non-native speakers, to assume that it must be a different word. Thryduulf (talk) 11:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Thryduulf. Perfectly within the realm of plausibility as per WP:RTYPO. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. GiantSnowman 18:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Rani Mukerji Chopra
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk!</b> 23:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Rani Mukerji Chopra → Rani Mukerji (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Another married actress who never took her husband's name after marriage. This redirect should not exist. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Doesn't matter whether she took her husband's name or not. The name gives results on Getty Images, The Economic Times, Google, etc. Redirects are meant to be alternative names and not necessarily accurate (ex. Jennifer Pitt, Nicole Cruise). Keivan.f  Talk 19:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * None of those call her by that name. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but they do. For example this one from NDTV: In the letter, signed Rani Mukerji Chopra, the 38-year-old actress writes of her hopes and fears for her baby daughter, of the anxiety and the joy that motherhood brings. Keivan.f  Talk 19:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * One passing instance of that name in over a decade of her marriage does not mean she's known by that name. But fine, this redirect can still be understandable because she's self-signed the letter. But for the other actresses, not so much. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * KeepBusiness standard, Indian Express, Republic TV. The name is used by mainstream media. Redtigerxyz  Talk 18:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Redtigerxyz. Thryduulf (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Alia Bhatt Kapoor
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Alia Bhatt Kapoor → Alia Bhatt (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Subject is not known by the name "Alia Bhatt Kapoor". A redirect such as this should not exist for married women who haven't changed/added their husband's name after marriage. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I have no strong feelings about this, but when it comes to redirects it doesn't matter what the person is commonly known as. This is not the article's title. As long as some sources refer to her as such the redirect can serve a valid purpose when it comes to looking for the subject. Examples include this one which refers to the Newlywed Alia Bhatt Kapoor in the text. The name also yields results on Google. In short, redirects are cheap and they don't need to be 100% accurate; that's why we have ones such as Jennifer Pitt. Keivan.f  Talk 19:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The question isn't what they are "commonly" known as. We should not assume that a married women should take her husband's last name, and that extends to poorly researched sources that call her by that name simply because she's married. It's highly misogynistic, unless ya'll create the same redirects for Ranbir Kapoor Bhatt or Virat Kohli Sharma. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's not for me to assume whether a woman or man has taken up her/his spouse's last name. When sources write something down we simply follow, and redirects are meant to ease the navigation process. Unfortunately, "Ranbir Kapoor Bhatt" doesn't yield any results anywhere, but "Alia Bhatt Kapoor" does and if someone decides to look that name up here after coming across it somewhere else, the redirect will take them to the actual article. Keivan.f  Talk 19:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sources can call an actor many things. In this source, Kareena Kapoor Khan is called KKK, as do other sources such as this and this. Does that mean KKK should redirect to her article? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course not, because obviously Ku Klux Klan is the primary topic. However, if the name they are using for the person is inherently unique, then I don't see why it can't serve a purpose as a redirect.  Keivan.f  Talk 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Why does it have to be unique? KKK (actress) is unique enough for a redirect. All I'm saying is that there are many ways to call a celebrity, doesn't mean they should all be redirects, especially when it comes to giving women identities that's not theirs, which is exactly what's problematic in the case of "Alia Bhatt Kapoor". Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - we don't know if she changed the name in her passport and other documents, but she did announce it. Jay  💬 18:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep per Jay, which makes this a plausible redirect. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 17%23Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia

'Umar ibn Sahlan as-Sawi
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 17%23'Umar ibn Sahlan as-Sawi

Frances and Richard Lockridge
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . There was opposition to deletion per WP:XY as the joint title was seen as a pen name. Opinion was split for keeping as is, creating a new article, and for disambiguating. There was a proposal for merging the two articles, and it had support, but may be done via WP:Proposed article mergers to notify the individual articles appropriately.  Jay  💬 06:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Frances and Richard Lockridge → Richard Lockridge (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Frances Lockridge now has her own page separate from her husband Bookworm-ce (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:XY. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I’m not sure. On the one hand, WP:XY; however, on the other hand, Richard Lockridge indicates that this phrase was a by-line used by the couple for the Mr. and Mrs. North, meaning that this is a plausible search term - which is backed up by this redirect getting an average 28 views/month since its creation. Perhaps retarget to Mr. and Mrs. North? But I don’t know if that would be the most ideal thing either. Best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 16:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak delete not clear that Mr. and Mrs. North is the primary target, not suitable for dabification, and of course WP:XY. We are probably best off just letting the search engine do its job. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 16:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per points raised by a smart kitten. The covers of Mr. and Mrs. North books do indeed depict the names of the authors as "Frances and Richard Lockridge", thus confirming the existence of a single pen name that encompasses the names of both collaborators and enabling the existence of at least a redirect (to Mr. and Mrs. North) or even a separate article which would focus on the details of the writing collaboration. Examples of other team-based articles can be found in Wikipedia entries for such collaborations as Rodgers and Hart, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Lerner and Loewe, Kander and Ebb, Comden and Green, Holland–Dozier–Holland, etc. Each of the collaborators — Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart, Oscar Hammerstein II, Alan Jay Lerner, Frederick Loewe, John Kander, Fred Ebb, Betty Comden, Adolph Green, Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier, Eddie Holland, etc. — also has a separate Wikipedia article that focuses on his or her entire life, not simply the collaboration. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge Frances Lockridge and Richard Lockridge to a joint biography at this title. The articles are almost identical. The differences are biographical in nature and can be combined in a biography section with sub-sections dedicated to each person. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Would alternatively support proposal by Tavix. Unlike, for example, Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II, who have extensive detail in their individual articles, independent of the Rodgers and Hammerstein collaboration, Frances Lockridge and Richard Lockridge are indeed proper candidates for a Frances and Richard Lockridge joint biography entry. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Having created the Frances Lockridge article, merging the pages seems like an OK alternative, although Richard's career continued for a decade or two after Frances' death. I just would prefer not to have a joint page directing to Richard specifically, or have only Richard have his own page but not give Frances her own, which would feel dismissive of Frances. —Bookworm-ce (talk) 13:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 19:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * As an alternative proposal, how about dabification? This probably isn't a standard outcome for WP:XY-type redirects; however, given that this is a valid search term (as opposed to a combination of 'X' and 'Y' that isn't used anywhere else), I'm leaning towards ignoring the rules to the extent necessary for this proposal. I'd be in favour of this outcome as opposed to merging, due to the fact that (in my opinion) RfD isn't the ideal forum for considering/discussing article mergers, and I'm not sure if it's strictly within its remit -- to be clear, a merger could still be discussed, but by a process such as WP:PAM rather than at RFD. I've started a draft disambiguation page below the current redirect. Pinging previous participants: . All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 15:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why we would need three pages where one is sufficient. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * One may turn out to be sufficient, but I don't personally feel comfortable opining on that matter in this discussion; as (to me) it's more of an article content question than one regarding redirects, and due to the fact that the two pages in question aren't aware that a merger is being considered at this RfD. If the consensus at (e.g.) WP:PAM is to merge the articles, this proposed dab page would no longer exist - however, prior to such a merger (if one occurs), this disambiguation page would serve as a navigational aid. My view is therefore that RfD could dabify this redirect, but without prejudice to a merger discussion (which would, in my view, be better suited to make that determination). All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten <sub style="color:#595959">[  meow ] 15:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Articleify into an article about their collaboration under a pen name. The articles with their individual biographies can be kept if they meet GNG outside of their collaboration, otherwise a full merge could work. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 18:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There are a bunch of proposals here that involve outcomes outside the scope of RfD, and hence we can't force anyone to do any of those. What the RfD closing admin should do is delete and allow the merge/articlefy proposals to be done if someone actually does them. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Steve Lacy (musician)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Steve Lacy (disambiguation). (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Steve Lacy (musician)">Steve Lacy (musician) → Steve Lacy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Ambiguous; see Steve Lacy (saxophonist) Retarget to Steve Lacy (disambiguation). 162 etc. (talk) 17:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget No brainer Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  00:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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ELMatronmaker/sandbox2
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 * The result of the discussion was move without redirect  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 17:55, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="ELMatronmaker/sandbox2">ELMatronmaker/sandbox2 → Dorking Cottage Hospital (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

This redirect was created in error, and it cannot be a plausible term for the hospital. I had it with Db-error, as I usually do on those sorts of redirects, but I was  without explanation. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 16:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * move without redirect to User:ELMatronmaker/sandbox2. The target article was created at this title by user:ELMatronmaker who almost certainly thought this was User:ELMatronmaker/sandbox2 (i.e. in their userspace rather than the mainspace). The edit history suggests that ELMatronmaker desires to keep the link and/or edit history so we might as well move it to where it should be. Thryduulf (talk) 17:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Substantial
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close  to let this to be discussed in the contested technical request (which I shall now move to Talk:Substantial (rapper)). There is not a speedy consensus on whether to solve this WP:MISPLACED situation by moving, retargeting, or disambiguating. The faulty status quo has existed for the past ten years without destroying the encyclopedia, so fixing it can wait another week (perhaps weeks) for the solution to be discussed. (non-admin closure) SilverLocust 💬 21:18, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Substantial → Substantial (rapper) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Propose redirecting to Substance as it is more commonly used as a word than being referred to as the rapper. – robertsky (talk) 15:01, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom. The rapper seems like a surprising choice. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose and speedy close. This is the wrong forum. An WP:RM/TR request has already been put in to move the article to the base name, where it has resided for years, and that renaming request should have either been honoured or discussed first, rather instead of first making an out-of-process change to the redirect target and then opening this RFD. what are you doing here?  &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 15:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Woah woah hey wait, what!? Didn't see this comment before my post, ack!I wouldn't say it's the wrong forum, but I do agree with Amakuru that that move request should be discussed, and that this shouldn't be discussed until/unless that request closes with a Keep/Oppose. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks, and who knows... it's not like the process is well-defined in situations like this; ultimately, the article is in the wrong location at the moment, because if there's a primary redirect from the base name to a disambiguated title, then it should just be moved. But that move request has been contested. I do think that process should have played out before anythign was opened here at RFD though. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Let's have this withdrawn first and let the discussion at RM/TR progress. Apologies for this premature open. – robertsky (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom and Presidentman. Indeed, I agree that the current target would generate a substantial amount of WP:SURPRISE; meanwhile, the proposed target is the noun-ified version of the redirect title (or, rather, the redirect title is the adjective-ified version of the proposed target); this is a common-sense retarget. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Procedural close per User:Amakuru. The nomination shouldn't have been opened during an active WP:RM discussion involving this title. - Eureka Lott 18:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Procedural close and discuss the whole matter at the talk page, which is where the WP:RM/TR looks to be headed. Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 19:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Pole (Venezuela)
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of political parties in Venezuela. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 23:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pole (Venezuela)">Pole (Venezuela) → Un Nuevo Tiempo (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

No mention in the article and no indication of why this redirects here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Look at the article history, this is a defunct minor political party. Retarget to List of political parties in Venezuela. 162 etc. (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Could this refer to es:Polo Democrático (Venezuela), a political party that merged into Un Nuevo Tiempo and is mentioned in the latter's Spanish article? That would mean the "2000" in the legislative election mentioned in the historical revision would be a typo for "2005", but I can't find any mention of "Pole", "Polo" or "PD" in either of the election articles. Given that "Pole" is a reasonable translation of "Polo" (the shortened form of Polo Democrático), the redirect seems plausible, but would need a mention to be added in the Un Nuevo Tiempo article. Chaotic Enby   (talk · contribs) 23:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retarget to List of political parties in Venezuela per 162 etc., in the absence of mention at the current target. Jay  💬 17:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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IRC +10414
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 12%23IRC +10414

Kontra Code
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Kontra Code → Konami Code (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

implausible misspelling (or is it a pun?), google gave me nothing of note  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 00:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as a harmless and unambiguous misspelling of Contra Code, an alternate name identified in the first sentence of the target article. - Eureka Lott 00:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep unambiguous and helpful single character phonetically correct misspelling. Skynxnex (talk) 02:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above, the K/C swap is fairly plausible. Heck, I could see someone write it as "Kontra Kode" x3 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:01, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep plausible misspelling/ mishearing. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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