Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13

March 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 13, 2024.

EasyEnglish
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Le stay inside man
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Le stay inside man → Agoraphobia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Le STAY Inside Man → Agoraphobia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * > browsing wikipedia instead of having a life > le funny shitpost greentext redirects have arrived > chuckle to self > realize that they're inevitably gonna get RFD'd and deleted at some point > cry inside > idea > send them out in style befitting the shitposty nature of them > smile > remember that it's all meaningless and won't change the outcome anyway > continue to cry inside whilst bemoaning my lack of a life

Anyway I suggest we delete these. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 22:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Le deletion as per nom. No sense in keeping an ancient, no-longer-relevant meme redirect. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Pwn - delete as unnecessary meme redirect with 0 views in the last 90 days
 * StreetcarEnjoyer (talk)  17:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Controversy over study buddies for international students in China
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 21%23Controversy over study buddies for international students in China

St. Stephen's International School
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . As an R from former name. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 23:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * St. Stephen's International School → St. Stephen's School Rome (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

St. Stephen's School Rome is not known as "St. Stephen's International School". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:17, 28 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 22:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The article refers to the school as an "International School" in the infobox, and this is an R from move. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:47, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep: Looking at their 'about' on their website (https://www.sssrome.it/about/welcome-to-st-stephens), the of it is   - the school's still using 'St. Stephen's International School' within its branding and such, so I'd say the redirect does make sense. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥</b> (talk・edits) 23:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Contemporary capitalism
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . No new participation despite multiple relists. However, there was no support for the status quo, hence retargeting to History of capitalism as the next best target.  Jay  💬 15:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Contemporary capitalism → Capitalism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This phrase is mentioned in the target article at Capitalism, but not in a way that will probably satisfy anyone looking up at this phrase to locate a definition for this redirect. The phrasing of the redirect hints some sort of WP:REDYES potential. Steel1943 (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 22:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to History of capitalism which has the most relevant information. In theory, you could write an article on "contemporary capitalism." But how would that be any different from the sections of the suggested retarget which discuss our present era? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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"Job creator(s)" and "Job creation"
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . Participation was limited to two editors only. There was opinion that Job creator and creators should point to the same target, and there was no support for the current target of Capitalism. Hence, targeting Job creators to Employment as a compromise.  Jay  💬 16:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Job creator → Employment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Job creators → Capitalism (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Job creation → Unemployment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Seems unclear what the target of these redirects should be. Honestly, I'm surprised that their target is not Company, though I guess an Economy could, in theory, create jobs as well. Hmm, even a Government can create jobs... Steel1943 (talk) 21:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 22:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. The first two should definitely lead to the same page, I can see arguments both ways for the third. Company is not that target - government departments, charities, universities, museums, armed forces, etc can all create jobs as well as companies. Capitalism is also wrong as other economic systems can also result in the creation of jobs (e.g. the Civil service of the People's Republic of China has created many jobs). Unemployment is the wrong target for job creator(s) and not wrong per se for job creation (but I have just refined Job creation scheme to point there rather than the top of that article) but it reflects only one use of the term. I'm not sure about employment as a target, it's a better fit for job creation than job creator(s) I think, but not perfect. More thinking required. Thryduulf (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete unless someone can find reliable sources that define idiomatic uses of the term, and we find somewhere to target the redirects. For "job creator(s)", I'd be fine with soft redirects to "" and "", respectively. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 14:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Contract labor
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus  . There was no support for the nomination's proposed target of Employment contract. A refining of the current target, as well as disambiguation were also proposed.  Jay  💬 15:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Contract labor → Employment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Contract labour → Employment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Contract Labour → Employment (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Since the subjects of these redirects probably refer to work done on a contract basis, I do not believe the current target or its section Employment to be the best target for these redirects. From what I found, the best fit for these redirects is probably retarget to Employment contract. Steel1943 (talk) 23:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, weak delete if there is no consensus to move away from the current target. Steel1943  (talk) 03:16, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 06:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 21:58, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Refine to Employment. The proposed target discusses contracts for salaried employees, not work done on a contract basis referred to as "contract labor." - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 02:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The way Employment is currently written defines the term in a fashion akin to describing a "gig worker", which is not contracted labor but rather labor that can be done at almost the leisure of the worker ... which is why I really do not believe readers searching these redirects are looking for that subject. Steel1943  (talk) 02:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Then we have different definitions of "contract labor," which is synonymous to "independent contractor" to me. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe this is grounds for a DAB or hat? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I would be fine with a DAB. I doubt that one is really a primary topic over the other. It's just a matter of how you define it, I suppose. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:07, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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2,6-Dinitrotoluene
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="2,6-Dinitrotoluene">2,6-Dinitrotoluene → Dinitrotoluene (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Please delete. Redirect is circular when starting from target dab page; arguably squatting on article namespace and certainly matches RFD category 10. Bernanke&#39;s Crossbow (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom <b style="color:red;">🔥HOT<i style="color:orange;">m̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃</i>🔥</b> (talk・edits) 22:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete unhelpful redirect. It would make sense to keep it if Dinitrotoluene provided useful summaries of the isomers, but it does not. &#8213; Synpath 23:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Power of Two
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23Power of Two

List of "Cops/COPS/C.O.P.S." episodes
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 24%23List of "Cops/COPS/C.O.P.S." episodes

Finnster
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 * The result of the discussion was restore earlier target  . WP:NOTBURO self-close; resolved amicably below. (non-admin closure) --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 00:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Finnster → Finster (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I had originally targeted this to F1NN5TER. has retargeted with the argument. I would agree with that if this were an arbitrary typo, but, as established in the prose of the article itself, this is a known misspelling of the subject's screen name—not borne of fat fingers, but people deliberately converting the leetspeak canonical name to regular characters—even occurring in marginally reliable sources like Game Rant. If you search Twitter for  you'll see the misspelling is ubiquitous, with F1NN5TER being the subject of an outright majority of tweets containing the string. Googling the string—even Incognito, on public wifi, with —the clear majority of hits I get are about F1NN5TER; the handful of exceptions are about non-notable animals and a one-off SNL character who had no lines. On the other hand, none of the articles about people named Finster reference this misspelling. Based on all this, I think F1NN5TER is the clear primary topic for the misspelling, and the least astonishing approach for our readers would be to redirect to his article with hatnote to Finster. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 13:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It sounds to me like you're making the argument that this is a commonly-used alternative spelling. If it were truly a misspelling, you would not find sources commonly using it. Just tag it as an alternative spelling, and done. We don't put misspellings in hatnotes; that communicates to readers that the term is a valid alternative spelling rather than a misspelling. Misspellings should be corrected, i.e. the misspelling in the hatnote should be corrected to be the correct spelling – but since that's the title of the article, then a hatnote isn't needed at all. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:55, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm confused by your argument that "we don't put misspellings in hatnotes". Where does it say that anywhere? Per WP:HATNOTERULES we use hatnotes any time . There's nothing in there about whether "Foo" is a misspelling or an alternative spelling—which in many cases is an artificial distinction. Here, I don't think it can be called an alternative spelling, because the correct spelling of a screen name can only be established by the person it refers to. And, on Twitter at least, the only time F1NN5TER has ever used this spelling is to complain about people searching for it more than his actual screen name.Alternatively, if this is really all about rcats, just remove the rcat entirely. There's no policy or guideline requirement to categorize redirects. --  Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 14:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * If you're willing to remove the r from misspelling that will keep it from populating my patrols as a problem demanding to be fixed. I suppose indicating that it's an r from other spelling is optional. Somehow these individuals using "leet" names manage to bypass the MOS:TM rules we impose on big corporations for similar "cuteness" they might use for their product names. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I suppose this might be an actual misspelling if the name was pronounced F – One – N – N – Five – T – E – R (as an initialism), but it's not, is it? It's actually pronounced the way it's "misspelled", isn't it? wbm1058 (talk) 14:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Wbm1058: So are you good with removing the cat and reverting? If so I'll close this. I do have thoughts about the other things you've said, but I don't want to waste either of our time if there's an easy compromise in sight. -- Tamzin  &#91;<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>&#93; (they&#124;xe) 16:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I think Tamzin is right. F1NN5TER is a better target in the short term (and a hatnote should be added). The surname very likely has more long term significance, but that's not all that important when we have articles about memes and social media influencers. Kk.urban (talk) 16:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Jonathan Medina
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Jonathan Medina → Jhonnatan Medina-Álvarez (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirects from an an actor who doesn't have a page to a random tennis player Heyallkatehere (talk) 08:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:40, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep or covert to DAB page. Google search shows results for this as an alternate name for the tennis player. Actor, footballer and an athlete all link to page, so could also convert to disambiguation page. Jevansen (talk) 08:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete because of ambiguity with an actor, athlete and footballer. May be hatnoted if we have at least one new article, and disambiguated when we have at least two. Jay  💬 06:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the ambiguitiy. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:26, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Draft:Skånska Socialdemokratiska Partiet
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Draft:Skånska Socialdemokratiska Partiet">Draft:Skånska Socialdemokratiska Partiet → Feminist Initiative (Sweden) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Bogus draft redirect. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 01:50, 6 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Any further thoughts? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:22, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. This was a draft article in Swedish about the same topic as the target page so WP:DRAFT seems to apply. Thryduulf (talk) 03:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment This was a draft that was tagged for speedy deletion that I turned into a redirect because I thought it might be a possible search term. I also wasn't positive about the status of the content as a hoax and this was my solution because it preserved the content that could be reviewed later by an editor with a deeper knowledge of the subject matter. I have no investment in this redirect but you might notify the draft creator if that hasn't been done yet. They aren't very active but they did edit in February. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * A google search turns up with nothing, and there is no party or branch of the Swedish social democrats with this name. It quite frankly does not exist! The name also does not indicate any supposed affiliation with FI, but with the social democrats. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 20:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Vif12vf as a hoax. Jay  💬 06:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:26, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results
<span id="Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results"> <span id="Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums/Overview of results"> Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results

Ownership of articles
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23Ownership of articles

South Central region
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 01:33, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * South Central region → South Central (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I don't find this an implausible search term per se, but there are zero incoming links, 0 pageviews in the last 30 days, and this was created in November. Unneeded redirect. asilvering (talk) 17:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Keep or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep or retarget to South Central Coast to match South Central Region]. This is a plausible search term and the redirect is harmless, so there is no benefit to deletion. "Unnecessary" is never a reason to delete a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 17:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to South Central Coast per Thryduulf. Between the region of Vietnam and the roller derby region, this is the primary topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as a plausible redirect for an ambiguous topic. There are four items on the South Central disambiguation page referred to as regions. - Eureka Lott 22:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep: it could be used for the region of Vietnam, it could definitely be used for South Central Region (WFTDA), and the US census region is likely as well. Kk.urban (talk) 16:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:SURVEY
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Survey. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 01:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * SURVEY → Wikipedia:Survey 2008 (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I'd like to point this to WP:SUBSTANTIATE, somewhere less mildewy, because I always forget it's "SUBSTANTIATE", and keep wanting "most scholars" or "survey". Remsense 诉  17:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting for further input. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 07:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Survey. Although all the incoming links relate to the current target, it's unlikely that this is what most people using the shortcut are searching for these days. While I think WP:SUBSTANTIATE is even less likely, it would be possible to add it to the list. Thryduulf (talk) 18:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh，I mean—if this is a me thing, then I happily retract/ I thought it might be a useful redirect for others as well. Remsense  诉  19:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: On the one hand, Where else links to Survey 2008, and how many of those links go through WP:SURVEY to do so? Probably will need to fix any that do. That said, I can't think of many reasons to link to the current target-- 2008 is like... 16 years ago, wow... On the other hand, WP:SURVEY has an entire Survey DAB page, and WP:SUBSTANTIATE isn't on it. It also feels like it's a bad include to put on it, given it... only mentions it once at the end as a potential source for "Most people think", instead of being about surveys itself?For the record, SUBSTANTIATE isn't the only redirect to this section-- you also have access to WP:ATTRPOV, WP:Attribute POV, and ATTRIBUTEPOV. Maybe one of those is easier to remember than SUBSTANTIATE? Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 18:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Retarget to Wikipedia:Survey and then remove the shortcut box from Survey 2008. It looks like there is only one actual intended incoming link from current page revisions, Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 18, the rest are this discussion, notices of this discussion, transclusions of rfd, and one preemptive guess of a future redirect (from 2005! Wikipedia talk:Centralized discussion/Archive 1). Skynxnex (talk) 13:58, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Survey: just kinda makes more sense for WP:SURVEY to go to WP:Survey (WP:ASTONISH and such). Could add a to WP:Survey if needs be. <b style="color:red;">🔥HOT<i style="color:orange;">m̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃</i>🔥</b> (talk・edits) 19:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Survey per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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France 2024
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23France 2024

Pappoos
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23Pappoos

Barphic
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 06:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Barphic → ASCII art (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term "barphic" is not mentioned at the target article, nor is it mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: could be an incredibly unlikely double-typo for 'graphic', but I can't see any traces of this word existing anywhere <b style="color:red;">🔥HOT<i style="color:orange;">m̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃</i>🔥</b> (talk・edits) 19:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * See for an attestation of the term's use in the wild from 1994.  I'm not sure if that's sufficient to retain the redirect. Tevildo (talk) 19:25, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Other than that one Usenet post there seems to be nothing else suggesting this was used or refers to ASCII art. <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:50, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Look of disapproval
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List of common emoticons
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Withdrawing, specifically due to being an R from move (without a tag); the AfD discussion implies the article was here for two years. If this was created today, deletion is a lot more viable, however there's a good number of old links here presumably. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 19:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * List of common emoticons → List of emoticons (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A lot of this list is anything but common, an otherwise subjective and strange adjective to attach to a list, especially when "common" is not particularly definable as this can vary from person to person and community to community. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:46, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, there may be some on this page that are not common, but the common emoticons are also here, and this is the benefit of redirects. Also the article literally starts with "This is a list of commonly used emoticons". Kk.urban (talk) 05:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair catch on the article opener; it's now been removed: the title describes the list's purpose as a "list of emoticons", so the first sentence should be "this is a list of emoticons". Commonality is not the deciding factor. The article also contains long emoticons, and short emoticons, and fancy emoticons, and silly emoticons that can be described several ways forward and back. That does not make this particular adjective any more ideal of a classifier. At least people can possibly agree what short and long is; "common" can be defined thousands of different ways and none of which are accurate to the current contents. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Someone looking for a list of common emoticons will find them at the target. That they will also find uncommon ones is neither here nor there. Thryduulf (talk) 12:04, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep It is unlikely we would create a separate list for "common" emoticons because, as the nominator themself says, "common" is not particularly definable. We might as well point readers who do search for such a list to the appropriate article. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, this is a 2009-era R from move (specifically, circa Feb. 4, 2009). The article opener describing the list as a "list of common emoticons" was an artifact left over from 15 years ago. Relevant AfD discussion here. HERE is where this comment belongs lol, not at Look of disapproval 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Le Lenny Face
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 * The result of the discussion was Refine to the Lenny Face entry  .  Jay  💬 06:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Le Lenny Face → List of emoticons (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Is not referred to as "Le Lenny Face" anywhere at the target article. The grammatical article of "le" obfuscates the search term and is as useful as attaching "the" to any subject (i.e. not that useful). Utopes (talk / cont) 04:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. This is a name for ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) -- an emoticon that does appear on the list. Not entirely certain how much precedent there is for appending "Le-" to the front, though. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, Lenny Face, Lennyface, and multiple other variations exist too. Utopes (talk / cont) 09:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hm. Well, in that case, updating to Weak refine to List_of_emoticons to match those. If we keep this, it might as well go right to the emoticon actually described as a Lenny Face. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:34, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak Retarget to List of emoticons: If le lenny face is gonna be kept, may as well retarget it to le lenny face. <b style="color:red;">🔥HOT<i style="color:orange;">m̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃</i>🔥</b> (talk・edits) 19:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Nobody has made an argument for keeping the "le-" version, Lunamann says above that they don't know how much precedent the "le-" has while saying "if we keep this". Utopes (talk / cont) 19:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * True. In terms of reasons to keep it - in both of the sources cited for Lenny Face in List of emoticons, it is acknowleged as being "le lenny face". But in terms of reasons to delete it - it looks like most of the existing 'le' redirects out there either exist for reasons related to French or are blatantly RFD-worthy shitpost redirects. <b style="color:red;">🔥HOT<i style="color:orange;">m̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃</i>🔥</b> (talk・edits) 23:22, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep and refine to List of emoticons. Alternative name per KnowYourMeme and Dictionary.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paradoctor (talk • contribs) 22:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * P.S.: Both refs in the list entry mention "Le Lenny Face" as an alternative name. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Desu face
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Desu face → List of emoticons (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target page, nor anywhere on Wikipedia. Contains very crufty 2008 edits (all unsourced of course). Utopes (talk / cont) 04:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Of the examples that show up in the 2008-era articles,  does not appear on the list, while   simply shows up under the entry for Frown. (   is simply a backwards version of the latter.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Keyboard faces
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23Keyboard faces

List of online emotions
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * List of online emotions → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target page is certainly not a list of emotions that you can experience online. Contains 4 edits worth of May 2008 history before evaporating into a redirect. Quite 2008 I'd say :v Utopes (talk / cont) 04:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, this doesn't seem like a plausible way to describe "emoticons". Kk.urban (talk) 05:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if you ignored nom and Kk.urban's very poignant talking points, the current target isn't even a list. Did the author want to target to List of emoticons?? Barring that too, even if we accepted "online emotions" as a valid descriptor (which we shouldn't), it'd be an WP:XY between that and List of emoji. Just chuck it in the bin. ò~ó 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:52, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:14, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Kao maaku
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Eastern-style emoticon
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Emoticon.  Jay  💬 07:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Eastern-style emoticon → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "eastern" nor "eastern-style" emoticons that are named in this specific way at the target page. There is also no "Japanese style" section at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, 'eastern' is a plausible method of describing things of Chinese and Japanese origin. (Edit: The correct target IS there, am on mobile and it's hard to swap between the two and check but I think it's the Kaomoji section) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Re edit: There is no section titled "Japanese style" at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:34, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Found it-- the section existed, it just wasn't under "Japanese style". Re-refine to Emoticon or Retarget to Kaomoji. (Either works, given the former hatnotes to the latter.)𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:37, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Emoticon. The Japanese, Chinese and Korean styles used to be grouped into one heading in the aticle but are now split over three, starting with the Japanese so readers looking for Chinese or Korean can just continue reading. Thryduulf (talk) 12:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Thread emoji
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Thread (yarn).  Jay  💬 07:12, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thread emoji → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of threads at the target article. Any emoji can be used in a thread, and is not automatically an emoticon. The refinement of Unicode is also not particularly specific to threads either. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:04, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. The section redirected to does pertain to emoji-- specifically, pointing out that a subset of emoji, the ones depicting faces, are referred to as "emoticons". However, as nom points out, nothing on this entire page pertains to 'threads', except perhaps the idea elsewhere on the page that certain emoticons/kaomoji come from 4chan or 2channel. (Emoticons/kaomoji, for the record, that are not emoji, and thus don't pertain to the section being redirected to.) (9_9) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Thread (yarn). The thread emoji is 🧵 (U+1F9F5 SPOOL OF THREAD) and it is included in the charts at Emoticon (the current target), Emoji, Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs and List of emojis. None of them are massively better targets than the other. 🧵 itself redirects to Thread (yarn), and I've added a hatnote pointing to Thread (online communication) and the supplemental symbols there. Thryduulf (talk) 12:28, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect - 🧵 is indeed what I was thinking of when I created the redirect, looking to either copy the symbol or find its code point. Given the hatnote there, Thread (yarn) is indeed a better target, and loads more helpful than just a Unicode table. Well done, Thryduulf. -- Beland (talk) 17:25, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget as per Thryduulf and Beland. Thank you! 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Awesome face
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Awesome face → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Awesome Face → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no mention of "Awesome face" at the target article, nor anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. If this is what I think it is (the 2000s-era proto-emoji meme face), this is not an emoticon in the first place (as an emoticon is constructed using text characters). Barring a better target, just delete. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:46, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Restore this version of Awesome Face and retarget Awesome face to it, without prejudice to AfD. I don't know that deletion is inevitable, as if sourceable it might make sense to merge it to Smiley (not a question for RfD). Thryduulf (talk) 12:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hm. Y'know, I don't think I'd normally be opposed to this. However...Noteably, the article (proto-article?) shown doesn't link to any sources, but does describe a few pages regarding the Awesome Face. Unfortunately, while researching in order to find them, I came across... this. The current Know Your Meme article on this topic has a near word for word copy of this proto-article as part of their own article on the subject, with most deviations from it probably able to be chalked up to the fact that our version was BLAR'd 12 years ago, while KYM's was updated and worked on. I don't want to say that KYM copied from us-- it's just as likely that this is copying KYM.If this article gets restored, it won't just need sources, it will require a complete rewrite in order to evade accusations of plagiarism. (At the very least, KYM has all of the sources implied by our version of the article.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * After some further digging, I am now reasonably certain that that version of the article is blatant WP:Plagiarism of the KYM article. As proof, this is the version of said article from August 2011 (wow, thanks KYM for having zero formatting on your edit histories, makes things very readable (9_9)), and by comparison, the Wikipedia version of the article showed up out of the blue in 2012, with the article before that point being... a redirect to Emoticon. Huh. What? Apparently, this was ALSO an , because it originally was created to point... to Awesome face, which itself had always been a redirect to Emoticon, before it briefly was redirected to Awesome Face during its brief stint as an unsourced PLAG stub.In any case, I am now doubly certain that if sent to AfD it'd get, very deservably, nuked with the force of a thousand suns. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with the assessment that the only edit at Awesome Face is an exact copy-paste-without-attribution from KnowYourMeme with zero valid, original content. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:40, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Given that the article content would be speedily deletable as a copyright violation (KYM is not freely licensed so it's not something attribution can fix) there is nothing to restore. Thryduulf (talk) 14:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Facial Expression Markup Language
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Virtual Human Markup Language. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Facial Expression Markup Language → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target page is not about Facial Expression Markup Language, and "markup language" does not occur anywhere in the body of the article. Perhaps in the past there used to be something here, but that does not seem to be the case anymore. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:58, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Virtual Human Markup Language which doesn't use the exact phrase but does mention facial expressions and is about the same topic that google hits indicate is the main meaning. Thryduulf (talk) 12:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Colon Bracket
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 20%23Colon Bracket

Less than three
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Less than 3. The discussed page move may be done subsequently.  Jay  💬 07:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Less than three → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

While a heart can definitely be formed as <3, this is still a general statement that does not apply to emoticons alone. It's pointed here for a while, yet there's also Less Than Three with different caps. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:52, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Dabify: Move the existing Less than 3 dab page (to which is a redirect), to this title, per MOS:SPELL09. Rosbif73 (talk) 10:31, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Less than 3 without prejudice to swapping that page with this redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 12:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Move Less than 3 to here, as per Rosbif73. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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List of smiley codes
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Smiley. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * List of smiley codes → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The phrase "smiley code" is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia, and this page is certainly not a list of them. Has some 2005 cruft history to list the three primary emotions that humans can muster: Happy, Sad, and Money Smiley. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Smiley. Jay  💬 07:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Smarticon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Smarticon → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Smarticon" not mentioned at the target page, nor anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:46, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * While this redirect was certainly correct in 2007 and I still use it the same way sometimes these days, a quick Internet search shows that the use of the word has changed over the last 17 years. Fine by me to change/delete/keep it. Looking through the other redirect discussions: thanks for your work. RichiH (talk) 07:12, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Midget emoticon
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Midget emoticon → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

"Midget" is not mentioned anywhere at the page, much less "midget emoticon", which isn't mentioned anywhere. Contains one edit worth of 2005 cruft swiftly removed. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Seems safe, and prudent, to remove entirely. RichiH (talk) 07:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Facebook Emoticons
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Facebook Emoticons → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Facebook is not discussed at the target page; emoticons exist on all platforms regardless of the host, so there's nothing to be gained from a specific redirect here. (Does contain some very 2009-esque history though). Utopes (talk / cont) 03:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No mention at target. The history is cute. :3 –CopperyMarrow15 (talk &#124; edits) Feel free to ping me! 01:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Chalamius
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Chalamius → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "Chalamius" at the target page, nor anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete GSearch just turns up Urban Dictionary and a bunch of user names for different websites -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Verticon
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Photocon
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to PhotoCON. (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 21:16, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Photocon → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "Photocon" at the target page, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia. PhotoCON is a pretty safe retargeting option, but perhaps there's a reason for this redirect to exist that I'm not familiar with. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to PhotoCON for now as plausible caps variant. I think it could also point to a photography conference or contest article but we don't have those. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Epic Face
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As Awesome Face was deleted.  Jay  💬 07:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Epic Face → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "Epic Face" at the target page, nor anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a synonym of Awesome Face, so if that is restored (as I recommend at ) then this should be retargetted to it. Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Given this was originally a redirect to Awesome Face and then got retargeted to Emoticon as an, I'm Supporting Thryduulf on this one, in that if Awesome Face is restored or rewritten, this should be retargeted to it. That said, given what I brought up, I'm not so sure that will happen, so, barring that, delete. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Japanese Emotions
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  13:54, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Japanese Emotions → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Japanese emotions are not purely "emoticons", even if some emoticons are Japanese. Misleading and unhelpful redirect, not discussed anywhere at the target page. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:37, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Kaomoji, a Japanese emoticon-link art form that predates modern emoticons, was on (very old, c. 2006) versions of emoticon, and likely was the intended subject of this title. Bernanke&#39;s Crossbow (talk) 21:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete this _onfusing misspelling. &#8213; Synpath 23:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Japanese people can feel emotion and are not limited to text based representation. <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px"><span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer <span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)  17:44, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Graemlin
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:39, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Graemlin → Emoticon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention of "Graemlin" at the target page, nor anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Google tells me that Graemlin is a computer model - "General and robust alignment of multiple large interaction networks" but I don't understand enough of results to say more. Whatever it is though it's not related to emoticons. Thryduulf (talk) 12:48, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Emotext
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Battle of Monocracy
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . (non-admin closure)  <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 01:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Battle of Monocracy → Battle of Monocacy (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect appears to be an attempt at a pun disguised as a typo implying the battle was somehow related to monocracy, which it was not. Delete. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep This is not a pun or typo, but a common misspelling/mishearing/misremembering of the name that is used in multiple independent sources. For example,, , (first picture caption),  (fourth picture caption), ,  ("About this item"),  and plenty more. Thryduulf (talk) 12:58, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Thryduulf. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per above and tag with from misspelling. Skynxnex (talk) 18:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep I took the liberty of tagging it as suggested by Skynxnex. <span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(-3deg);bottom:-.1em;">Paradoctor (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Terrorism in Israel
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  .  Jay  💬 16:12, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Terrorism in Israel → Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect might need a new target. Important because it is used in the Asia topic navbar, its deletion will probably mean it will be re-created later down the road. Created in 2007, it has been targeted and retargeted during its history. It seems that a better target is needed. See also Template talk:Asia topic for more info.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'er there 05:15, 26 February 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: RfD cannot order editors to create an article at a given title; such arguments are typically interpreted as a WP:REDYES argument for deletion. Alternatively, disambiguation has been proposed but it's not entirely clear which articles would be listed on such a disambiguation page. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 18:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Create content here as suggested on the talk page by LilianaUwU and Sawyer-mcdonell this could be a disambig, list or overview article. Thryduulf (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Make it an actual page. This could very well be a summary of terrorism in Israel like Terrorism in the United States is.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 15:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Disambig for now, to be turned into an overview article - terrorism in Israel is certainly a notable topic with RS, and I agree with Liliana that it can be a standalone article. Also, there has been terrorism in Israel unrelated (or not directly related) to the I-P conflict, so readers aren't getting a full picture of the topic from the redirect. I have some concerns about NPOV with the redirect target as well, and creating a content page would help. sawyer  * he/they *  talk  19:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Rosguill's earlier relist comment still applies. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 00:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * 'Disambig for now, to be turned into an overview article - per Sawyer-mcdonell and Liliana. Marokwitz (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambig with possibility of expansion, per above. Mindful of the relisting comments above -- in addition to the current target, I would suggest that the following articles could be included in the disambiguation: Israel and state-sponsored terrorism, Jewish extremist terrorism, Palestinian political violence, Israeli settler violence. All of these are, I think, topics that a reader might reasonably be hoping to find information on. There may be others. -- Visviva (talk) 01:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Create content as it is definitely of use to a reader, per the arguments made above. FortunateSons (talk) 09:54, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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