Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 5

March 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 5, 2024.

Potsy Ponciroli
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 15:27, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Potsy Ponciroli → Colt Ford discography (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Suggesting deletion. Ponciroli is the director of encyclopedic films such as Old Henry and Greedy People, and co-creator of television series Still the King, yet the page currently is a redirect to Colt Ford discography, which makes little to no sense. Per WP:REDLINK a redlink would be more useful, as it would encourage editors to create the page. Cavarrone 08:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. A7V2 (talk) 23:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. As far as I can tell, current target is because Potsy directed the music videos for several of Colt Ford's songs. However, I'd say that the two films and one TV series you mentioned are far more noteable than some music videos. WP:REDLINK is the way to go here. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 13:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Keep or create article - Most of Ponciroli's work is with Colt Ford. An article should be created for this person. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jax 0677, the music videos are non notable and unremarkable, and are definitely the least significant works in Ponciroli's resume. Your redirect has likely prevented the page from having been already created. Cavarrone 07:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Reply - My redirect cannot prevent an article fr9m being created. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:34, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Picture the following three scenarios.
 * An editor looks at the name 'Potsy Ponciroli' in an article. It is black. The editor scrolls past, safe in the idea that Potsy has been deemed non-notable and does not need an article.
 * An editor looks at the name 'Potsy Ponciroli' in an article. It is blue. The editor scrolls past, safe in the idea that everything notable about Potsy has already been written, and move on with their lives.
 * An editor looks at the name 'Potsy Ponciroli' in an article. It is red. They click it, and Wikipedia itself says "Hey! We don't have an article here! Please make an article!" They spend the next 30 minutes or so researching Potsy and writing a stub. Over time, this stub evolves into an article.
 * This is why WP:REDLINK, while not mentioning Redirects once in the article itself, is commonly cited as a reason to delete redirects. A redirect has the effect of preventing editors from writing articles, simply by existing. A comment stating that a redirect should be deleted "as per WP:REDLINK" is a comment that states, "Hey, whatever the article is currently pointing to has little to no notable information about this topic, but while I don't have it myself, I think there might be notable information somewhere. Thus, I think this redirect should be deleted and replaced with a redlink, which might flag down an editor to write a much-needed article." Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 00:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Jonathan Medina
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13%23Jonathan Medina

Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results
  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13%23Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda/Overview of results

Redirects to Terraria
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  a handful as below, delete the rest.  ✗  plicit  23:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * King Slime → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Eye of Cthulu → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Eater of Worlds → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Brain of Cthulu → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Skeletron → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Deerclops → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Queen Slime → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Plantera → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Duke Fishron → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Empress of Light → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Lunatic Cultist → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Moon Lord → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mourning Wood → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pumpking → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Everscream → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Santa-NK1 → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Solar Pillar → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nebula Pillar → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Vortex Pillar → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Stardust Pillar → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Turkor the Ungreatful → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ocram → Terraria (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

No mention on target page. These are presumably all mobs/bosses in Terraria, but no individual mobs/bosses are mentioned there. (Bear with me while I nominate and batch the lot.) That's all, folks! Additionally, at least one of them (Deerclops) is incorrectly targetted in the first place (this is originally a Don't Starve monster and appeared in Terraria as a crossover). asilvering (talk) 22:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * NB: Turkor the Ungreatful, Eye of Cthulu, and Brain of Cthulu are misspelled; the correct spellings are "Ungrateful" and "Cthulhu". – dudhhr talkcontribssheher 22:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Those seem like pretty common spelling errors, I myself didn't realise "Cthulhu" or "Turkor the Ungrateful" were spelt like that until now. GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 07:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per "We're not Bulbapedia"-- We're not the Terraria Wiki, either. If it's not even notable enough to show up in the target article, we probably don't need the redirect. (Edit: See later comment about King Slime.) (Edit the second: See LATER comment about Utopes's list of retargets. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 00:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think WP:FANCRUFT applies here as these are merely redirects not actual articles. GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 07:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * They're... indirectly fancruft? Here's the thing about these redirects-- if someone actually wants to plug "Skeletron" into the search bar, and mean the Terraria boss, they're NOT going to be satisfied by the article on the game itself, they're going to want some information on Skeletron. And the issue with THAT is, actually adding information on Skeletron WOULD be fancruft. Thus, we shouldn't add information on Skeletron... and shouldn't retain these redirects, because anyone using them wouldn't be satisfied with what they find. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 13:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete all They are clear fancruft. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


 * delete most as fancruft. delete ocram as  EXTREME  fancruft  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 15:53, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Objection in that Turkor the Ungrateful is EXTREMER fancruft Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * hey, I still play the old mobile version! (insert infodump on all the silly "game balance" overwhelmingly favoring ranger)– dudhhr talkcontribssheher 18:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete all we are not a iniscriminate collection of info -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget King Slime to Young Thug as the most likely topic. No opinion on the rest. 162 etc. (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Supporting this Retarget for King Slime, keeping my vote at Delete all for the rest . 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget the following: King Slime to Young Thug. Eater of Worlds to List of Warhammer 40,000 novels. Skeletron to Skeleton Skeletron. Plantera to List of fictional plants. Moon Lord to Love Between Fairy and Devil. Mourning Wood to Morning wood. Pumpking to Masterplan (band) (where Pumpkings already points). Everscream to Halloween of Horror. Solar Pillar to Light pillar (where Solar pillar already points). Ocram to Internal RAM (on-chip RAM). Delete the rest. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Supporting this list of retargets. Thank you so much, Utopes! 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Kanpachi
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 15%23Kanpachi

Ownership of articles
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13%23Ownership of articles

South Central region
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13%23South Central region

Wikipedia:SURVEY
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Raspberry Ukraine
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 15%23Raspberry Ukraine

France 2024
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13%23France 2024

Causes of climate change
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 * The result of the discussion was Wrong forum  . For one, Talk:Attribution of recent climate change is not closed. For two, even if it was closed, such a request is handled by WP:RMTR. (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 15:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Causes of climate change → delete (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete causes of climate change to make way for page move of attribution of recent climate change which will become causes of climate change, as per long discussion on talk page there (consensus reached) EMsmile (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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"Munchasan Kathakal" and "Munjasan Kathakal"
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 14:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Munchasan Kathakal → Baron Munchausen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Munjasan Kathakal → Baron Munchausen (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in target article. Most likely WP:FORRED issues. Steel1943 (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. These appear to be Malayalam. Thryduulf (talk) 13:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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Pappoos
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 13%23Pappoos

Drive (2018 film) / Drive (2017 film)
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 * The result of the discussion was Keep 2018, Delete 2017  .  Jay  💬 07:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="Drive (2017 film)">Drive (2017 film) → Drive (2019 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Drive (2018 film)">Drive (2018 film) → Drive (2019 film) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Film was never released in 2017 or 2018, so propose deletion per WP:RDELETE as misleading/potential for confusion. The traffic dropped to zero after I removed the final link to the 2018 redirect at |Drive_(2017_film) the end of last year. 2pou (talk) 21:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 08:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep the 2018 redirect, as the film was scheduled to be released in 2018 before being pushed back to 2019 (although the traffic has dropped to essentially zero pageviews). Delete the 2017 one, as I can't find any evidence of plans to release it in that year. Regards, SONIC  678  17:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep the 2018 redirect as it was definitely originally scheduled to be released in 2018, making it a plausible way to search for this. When created, the article initially gave a 2017 date but I'm unsure if a reference exists for this, so I am neutral on the 2017 redirect for now. A7V2 (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep the 2018 redirect, delete the 2017 redirect, as per above. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 11:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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Brookville Police Department
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 12%23Brookville Police Department

November 2023 Terrorist Encounter in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 12%23November 2023 Terrorist Encounter in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

The Shadown Of Catire
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD  as unambiguously created in error. Thryduulf (talk) 13:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The Shadown Of Catire → The Shadow Of Catire (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Mistaken page move, was at this title for all of a couple minutes. Rusalkii (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as implausible typo. As an aside, my brain refuses to pronounce 'shadown' anywhere close to 'shadow'-- instead coming up with 'shah-down'. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 11:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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Website previously known as Twitter
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 15%23Website previously known as Twitter

Master of the TreboN Altarpiece
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  05:05, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Master of the TreboN Altarpiece → Master of the Třeboň Altarpiece (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect page Master of the Trebon Altarpiece already exists, so a version where the N in Trebon is capitalized is absolutely unnecessary and should be deleted. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 01:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * DeletE as per nom. (Odd, my comment on Brookville Police Department was originally actually meant for THIS discussion...) Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 07:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ok, and now I get the joke. -- asilvering (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * DeletE as unhelpful error. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. FromCzech (talk) 07:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:46, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 07:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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