Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 2

May 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 2, 2024.

Pan-American English
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 10%23Pan-American English

-ic
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Ic. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * -ic → IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This suffix isn't exclusive of IUPAC. The target was changed without consensus, it was a soft redirect to -ic, which to me is the best target. Though it should be commented that the current target links to Wiktionary already. So dabifying is also possible I guess -- MikutoH talk! 21:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to Ic. It seems there are three items to disambiguate here: the English language suffix, the (misspelled/transliterated) Slavic family name suffix and the suffix's use in chemistry nomenclature. The Ic DAB page has appropriate links for those uses. Though I think the hyphen pretty unambiguously signifies a suffix, so it's a bit inelegant to serve a reader a page full of links to search through. Maybe a tiny DAB page can be made. I'm not opposed to restoring the soft redirect to Wiktionary either.  &#8213; Synpath 22:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Ic which has all the suffix uses mentioned. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 18:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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Johnny be good
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Hey man im josh (talk) 15:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Johnny be good → Johnny Be Good (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was a 2-entry disambiguation page for the film Johnny Be Good and the similarly-titled (but much more popular) song "Johnny B. Goode", but redirected it to the former. I must admit I didn't realise until now the song title was spelled like that, but I'm only one person. Is the film the primary topic at this capitalization (inferring keep); or are readers much more likely to want the song (based on pageviews |Johnny_B._Goode, inferring retarget); or is there no primary topic (inferring restore)? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep as a simple r from miscapitalization. The song title's spelling is too different to justify targeting it there, and an appropriate hatnote is in place at Johnny Be Good. - Eureka Lott 14:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Telephonics Corporation
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 17%23Telephonics Corporation

WP:BRRRD
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 10%23WP:BRRRD

Romani people in Paris
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Romani people in France. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Romani people in Paris → Demographics of Paris (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently created at WP:AFC/R. The target section contains very little information about the Romani people in Paris - only the line. I'm inclined to think that this might be better off being a red link/being deleted per WP:R, as the target article contains virtually no information on the subject of the Romani community in Paris. While Romani people in France does exist as an article, it doesn't mention Paris (other than briefly/in passing in the History section), and so also doesn't contain much information on the subject of the Romani people in Paris. All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten [  meow ] 14:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Romani people in France. The factoid "there are Romani in Paris" doesn't seem like a particularly useful target for a redirect, and while this proposed target also doesn't have info specific to Paris, I don't think a reader would find it disappointing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Romani people in Pristina
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  .  ✗  plicit  03:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Romani people in Pristina → Demographics of Pristina (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Recently accepted at WP:AFC/R. As far as I can see, the target article contains little to no information about the Romani people - therefore, I'm inclined to think that this would be better off as a red link/being deleted per WP:R. While Romani people in Kosovo does exist as an article, that article doesn't seem to contain information about Pristina specifically, and so wouldn't be much help to readers searching for information about the Romani community in that area. All the best, &zwj;—&zwj; a smart kitten [  meow ] 14:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep It's definitely there, although it uses the misnomer "Romans". Queen of &#x2661;  &#124;  Speak  14:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Queen of Hearts (talk • contribs)  is the creator of the page that is the subject of this RfD.
 * Keep - if readers want to find information on the Romani of Pristina, this target is what we have. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Ivanvector (talk • contribs) has never before seen the page that is the subject of this RfD, and doesn't see why the page creator commenting here needs to be flagged in this way.
 * — Note to closing admin: Queen of Hearts (talk • contribs) is perhaps a bit too paranoid.  Queen of &#x2661;  &#124;  Speak  15:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, multiple statistics mentioning Romani people on that page. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 18:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)  — Note to closing admin: Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) has no idea why everyone is using notes and just copy-pasted the code to fit in.
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Jhanak
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 10%23Jhanak

Mestecănești
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete  . (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 21:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Mestecănești → Nyíregyháza (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion of redirect from novel "Romanian" name invented on the Internet, per deletion criteria #8.Anonimu (talk) 10:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Support as creator. I don't remember having created the redirect but I do remember seeing this name, believing it was true and looking it some months later to find out it was fake. Super   Ψ   Dro  14:04, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - I don't think "made up" is correct, more like the origin is unknown, but it does seem to refer unambiguously to this city. Per WP:RFOREIGN. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Shoob
<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Marvin Herman Shoob.  Jay  💬 12:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Shoob → Samoyed dog (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a meme slang term not mentioned at the target article, as garnered from the edit summary and rcats. Not useful in its current form as we have no further information about the term of "shoob" at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Delete or retarget? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="color:blue; text-shadow:cyan 0.0em 0.0em 0.1em;">CycloneYoris</b> <b style="color:purple">talk!</b> 10:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I have the redirect target on my watchlist and the term "Shoob" has been added there many times without sources. Graham87 (talk) 14:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * retarget to Marvin Herman Shoob and tag as R from surname -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Can't think of a notable primary topic for this. Okmrman (talk) 13:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget per Lenticel. Marvin Herman Shoob is currently the only article with Shoob in its title. - Eureka Lott 14:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Lott. Queen of &#x2661;  &#124;  Speak  20:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget as r from surname. jlwoodwa (talk) 08:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:FLUFF
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 10%23Wikipedia:FLUFF

Desi (Tibetan)
<span id="Desi (Tibetan)"> <span id="Desi (Tibet)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 10%23Desi (Tibetan)

Liquid nails
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . signed,Rosguill talk 19:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Liquid nails → Adhesive (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Lower case version of what's apparently a brand of glue...? Adhesive? In any case, liquid nails are not mentioned at the target, and anyone typing this in instead of adhesive seems to be looking for something else. Has some history, but has also been to RfD before (13 years ago). Utopes (talk / cont) 05:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 14:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to PPG Industries (the owner of the brand), where the product is mentioned. - Eureka Lott 23:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete without a strong objection to retargeting to PPG Industries instead. The product is mentioned there, but no details are given, not even "it's an adhesive".  Stating what the thing actually is should be minimum viable information.  Here, it's just stated to be a part of an acquired product line related to the "architectural coatings" industry, which doesn't say much about what it is.  Lacking the information, I think redlinking may be more useful... but I don't feel strongly about that, and so don't object to the retarget either. Fieari (talk) 06:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Fieari Okmrman (talk) 15:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Fieari. There's not enough substance at PPG Industries to warrant a redirect. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 18:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Mental gymnastics
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Wiktionary  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  18:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Mental gymnastics → Cognitive dissonance (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I had to do some serious mental gymnastics to wrap my head around why this redirect exists. Sure, some people may perform mental gymnastics when "they're uncomfortable from their beliefs being inconsistent and contradictory". A similar idea I feel could be people perform the act of running to get from Point A to Point B, although that doesn't make the "running" a good redirect to "pathfinding". It's a singular mean to the end, and not everyone that has cognitive dissonance is "performing mental gymnastics", and not everyone that does mental gymnastics has cognitive dissonance. Example: I'm fairly sure I'm performing mental gymnastics right now in an attempt to jump through the logical hoops that went into this redirect, and I don't think I'm too uncomfortable from cognitive dissonance. I believe I've come to understand why, although I don't think it's a great end-all-be-all redirect that takes people to the right location at 100% intentions every time. To me, I feel like Convergent thinking or Divergent thinking are what I would have associated mental gymnastics with, i.e. following along with someone's thought process jumping through hoops with twists and turns to an eventual endpoint. Also, "mental gymnastics" is not mentioned at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 14:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay  💬 08:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Soft redirect to wiktionary Okmrman (talk) 16:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Soft redirect to mental gymnastics. The second definition there mentions otherwise unjustifiable things, but that's only a loose connection to cognitive dissonance. If we were sticking to non-interwiki redirects, I'd say is a slightly better target than Cognitive dissonance – at least rationalization is an act. jlwoodwa (talk) 09:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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Cocaine hippos, Cocaine Hippos, Cocaine Hippos (film)
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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget the first two, delete the third  * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  18:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Cocaine hippos → Hippopotamuses in Colombia (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cocaine Hippos → Hacienda Nápoles (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Cocaine Hippos (film)">Cocaine Hippos (film) → Lists of Netflix original films (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Rather odd situation with these three redirects. For one, the film which these redirects are possibly meant to refer to does not seem to be mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Regarding the other two redirects, it seems that one targets in anchor that does not exist, and the other redirect targets a different page than the redirect with the nonexistent anchor. At the minimum, I'm thinking the redirect with the "film" disambiguator needs to be deleted, and the other two redirects should at least target the same location. Otherwise, it might be best just to delete the whole lot of these. Steel1943 (talk) 08:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * did snowflame make those?
 * keep as it's mentioned, delete and create a redirect along the lines of "colombian nose candy hippos (documentary)" as that's what's mentioned there delete as there's just one mention at the end, and delete as there seems to be no netflix slop with that name (yet), respectively  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 11:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget both "cocaine hippos" redirects to Hippopotamuses in Colombia, the article about the hippopotamuses left over from the cocaine kingpin's estate. Links are provided there to Escobar and his estate. Retarget the film title to Pepe (2024 film), a recent film which has one of these hippos as its protagonist. I don't see the mention that Cogsan is referring to. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * lead on the first article, last paragraph on the second  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I still don't see where you're getting any reference to a documentary on "colombian nose candy hippos", and the page Cocaine Hippos (documentary) does not exist. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * i did link it to the correct name, so eh
 * but in retrospect, a single mention of the documentary near the end of an article might not be worth a redirect, so i'll quietly have it changed...  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 23:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget the first two to Hippopotamuses in Colombia (technically, only the second has to change), delete the last one as other more plausible targets would exist (but have not been created), such as the planned Netflix production, the documentary or this 2011 TV series. Chaotıċ Enby   (talk · contribs) 18:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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The Other Mrs.
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The Other Mrs. → Lists of Netflix original films (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, and apparently not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Apparently, the subject of this redirect is supposed to represent a film version of a novel by the same name written by Mary Kubica (no article) with the novel being published in 2020. As it stands, there seems to be no information about the novel or film anywhere on Wikipedia. (Also, I could not find any unrelated article to retarget this redirect since the phrasing of the title seems like it would represent some other notable subject, but ... my searches came up with nothing concrete.) Steel1943  (talk) 07:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Last Sons of America
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  03:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Last Sons of America → Lists of Netflix original films (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned in the target article, and not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Looking at third-party websites, it seems that the subject of this redirect (a film by this name intended to be released on Netflix) was in some sort of pre-production phase after Netflix possibly, in 2019, purchased the rights to create a film version of a novel of the same name; the novel was apparently written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson (but there is no mention of any subjects by the name "Last Sons of America" in that article.) Regarding the film, apparently, Peter Dinklage was in talks to play one of the characters in the proposed film. However, that's kind of where the trail ends ... 5 years later, and no further news about the film. (For what it's worth, the subject of this redirect does not represent the subject at American Son (2019 film), a similarly named film also on Netflix.) In addition, it does not seem the novel which the film was to be based has an article on Wikipedia. In other words, deletion seems to be the best option here to either encourage the creation of an article about the novel (WP:REDYES) or ensure readers attempting to look for information about the nonexistent film subject are not led to a bunch of nothing. Steel1943 (talk) 07:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and per WP:REDLINK. The novel may be notable enough for an article to be written; the evidently unproduced film is not and we have no information on it anywhere. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Boston Incident
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 17%23Boston Incident