Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 20

May 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 20, 2024.

Kallar(caste)
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Kallar(caste) → Kallar (caste) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary redirect with no space before a parenthetical disambiguation that has only minor page history, no incoming links from mainspace, and where a page with an otherwise identical but correctly spaced disambiguator exists, speedy contested by User:Rosguill for having too many pageviews; while that is not an exception to WP:X3, I have no problem bringing this here. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:B02F:7668:BB5B:365 (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Malformed title. The once-per-day pageviews may have come from search engines accidentally indexing the redirect. Ca talk to me!  01:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom - not enough traffic (separate from XFD interest) for a redirect. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it was at this title for less than a month in 2009.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete (WP:RDAB). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 12:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Jason Carter(fiddler)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Jason Carter(fiddler) → Jason Carter (fiddler) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

X3 eligible redirect with significant edit history as a result of a histswap. Jalen Folf  (Bark[s])  23:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment I decided to let this one get a discussion specifically because the decision at the time was to hist-swap rather than move over and that might just have been a deliberate action for a reason. However the content was an just an old microstub moved aside to make way for acceptance of a draft, so not inherently substantive. If someone thinks this should still be speediable go ahead I won't contest it, but there was just enough doubt for me to rethink this one and err on the side of caution. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:B02F:7668:BB5B:365 (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it doesn't appear to contain any content not in the target and contains very general facts anyway so probably nothing that would need to be retained for copyright reasons.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Stressed out
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 28%23Stressed out

Flamethrower(song)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  23:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Flamethrower(song) → Flamethrower (song) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unecessary redirect with no space before a parenthetical disambiguation that has only minor page history, no incoming links from mainspace, and where a page with an otherwise identical but correctly spaced disambiguator exists, speedy contested by User:Rosguill for having too many pageviews; while that is not an exception to WP:X3, I have no problem bringing this here. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:DC21:22F4:5B2A:90E7 (talk) 15:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete it was at this title for less than a day in 2015.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Might as well nominate 365(number), 24th Mixed Brigade(Imperial Japanese Army), and Moon of the Spider(novel) for deletion too. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Classic Redirects are costly. And it's existence fortuitously places it at the bottom of the Search box when you type in "Flamethrower", catching the eye, meaning people use it: a self-fulfilling prophecy. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RDAB. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 12:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

F-Indy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 28%23F-Indy

Get out
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Get Out. There were two policy-based arguments raised here: DIFFCAPS and PTOPIC, but it is clear that the PTOPIC argument had more supporters. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me!  06:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Get out → Get Out (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I can see that the redirect target has been changed a couple times recently, so I'm going to bring this to discussion rather than just change it again without consensus. I think this should be retargeted to Get Out, the undisambiguated film article (as was decided with significant support in 2017) and be tagged as R from miscapitalization. If we accept that Get Out is PTOPIC (which, of course, I support) then it would make more sense that someone typing those precise words, regardless of capitalization, should be directed to that article. It's where I was expecting to be taken just now when I encountered the dab page instead. Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 14:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:DIFFCAPS, there are several lower case uses and the film is linked at the top of the DAB page.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget: per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which it clearly is. None of the other works mentioned on Get Out (disambiguation) are remotely as notable as the film, as is reflected in the film being linked at the top of the disambiguation page. Pluma (talk) 03:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget none of the uses with this capitalization seem prominent enough that the hatnote would be insufficient. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

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<div class="boilerplate rfd vfd xfd-closed mw-archivedtalk" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;"> Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Crossed swords. I took the liberty of retargetting ⚔️ as well, though it shouldn't be taken as a 100% consensus-backed decision. (non-admin closure) Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  14:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * <span id="⚔">⚔ → Sword (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A better target for this redirect would be Crossed swords since the title of this page matches what the glyph depicts and the glyph is discussed at this page. The current target brings no information about it at all. --TadejM my talk 10:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Redirecting to a disambiguation page is never a good idea. The proposed change to a disambiguation page will give no information at all, it is in fact a link to nowhere.  The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 11:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Retarget per nom, as it is mentioned at the proposed target but not the current one. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Killed in action as stated on the disambiguation page. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 18:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete ⚔ is too undefined of a character to specifically refer to one article. I notice that ⚔%EF%B8%8F&redirect=no, which shows up as the same character when I type it into this text box but as a different once when I enter it in the search bar, redirects to battle, which could also be a valid interpretation of the symbol. ⚔ could also justifiably redirect to swordfight or crossed swords or conflict or any other number of articles. Pluma (talk) 04:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Crossed swords, which expressly has this symbol as one of its entries, thus giving the name to this emoji character and the location of it in the unicode block, which is all the information we have on this glyph. I would also like to reply to the comment above that "redirecting to a disambiguation page is never a good idea"... that statement is patently false.  We redirect to disambiguation pages all the time, it is very frequently a good idea, as disambiguation pages are often the best way to direct the user to the information they want in the fastest way possible. Fieari (talk) 07:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget both ⚔ and ⚔️ to Crossed swords, because that's what they're graphics of. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment this also is used as a battlesite marker on a historical map, is there an article that explains that? That should be added to the disambiguation page if we have one. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 20:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 05:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to crossed swords. The unicode definition is 'CROSSED SWORDS', thus, it unambiguously has that definition. This is regardless of how it may be rendered to appear in any typeface. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 01:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to crossed swords. For the reasons given by other commenters above. Donner60 (talk) 04:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).