Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 29

May 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 29, 2024.

Traditional laws of armed conflict
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Law of war. (non-admin closure)  CycloneYoris talk! 03:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Traditional laws of armed conflict → Voluntary war (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

While this term is currently mentioned in the article, the concept writ large generally doesn't have some specific connection to the Jewish law concept of "voluntary war". Delete per WP:REDLINK. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Actually, I was skeptical about making the redirect to this page, since the redirect is more of a generic term that can apply to almost any country's traditional laws of armed conflict. Feel free to delete the redirect, if you should deem it not meeting the redirect guidelines. We all make mistakes. Cheers. Davidbena (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The current target is too narrow, so delete or retarget to Law of war, which has a section related to this topic. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 17:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Law of war per Mx. Granger. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:HOUSE
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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate  . (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me!  13:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * HOUSE → Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/House task force (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

most ppl think of actual houses nowadays, not house MD. Kinopiko  talk 22:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Where do you suggest this redirect be re-targeted to? Ca talk to me!  01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. This redirect originally targeted WikiProject Crowded House when it was created (well, created then fixed) in 2007. The redirect was retargeted to a former name of its current target in 2009. Since this redirect had multiple targets during its lifetime, I'm not a straight-up "keep" in this case and am actually not sure what the best path forward here is. Maybe disambiguate? Steel1943  (talk) 01:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dabify Given that we have no good consensus on a primary target, I suggest creating a disambiguation page with the current entry, WikiProject Crowded House and the following two essays: Don't demolish the house while it's still being built, Don't hope the house will build itself. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If we're dabifying then Teahouse is probably worth including too. Thryduulf (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:WikiProject Architecture / WP:WikiProject Civil engineering / WP:WikiProject Home Living -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 21:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with adding the above mentioned targets to the proposed dab page. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * DAB seems most appropriate. WP House MD is inactive, as is WP Crowded House. A redirect to the Teahouse was discussed (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/House task force), but I doubt that is a useful addition to an accumulating list of different associations, especially as most uses of it in the wild (on talk and user pages) appear to want the Crowded House project.
 * Worth noting as well, WT:HOUSE still takes you to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Crowded House. — HTGS (talk) 04:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * DABify; I meanwhile think that WP:DEMOLISH, WP:BUILDER, and WP:TEAHOUSE are good additions to the list, I can see someone plausibly linking to any of those three as "WP:HOUSE". That said, the Crowded House project should probably be first on the list as a possible primary topic.I'll note that WP:CROWDIES still has a hatnote directing people to WP:INSPECTOR, seemingly expecting a need to disambiguate from WP:HOUSE. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 07:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn’t mean we shouldn’t add the Teahouse to the DAB page, but that we shouldn’t add to the list of pages this shortcut links/has linked to, by using it as a redirect/shortcut. — HTGS (talk) 23:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Given this is a (proposed) disambig page in Wikipedia namespace, it'll naturally encourage people to stop using it for the purpose of shorthand in talk pages -- making them gravitate over to WP:INSPECTOR, WP:BUILDER, WP:CROWDIES, and WP:TEAHOUSE instead. Granted there will be a few people who use WP:HOUSE itself (see WP:UPPERCASE), but it shouldn't take more than one person replying to them with "wait, which result are you talking about?" to get people to swap the redirect they use. (edit 03:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Bashira
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 * The result of the discussion was wrong forum  . This discussion should actually be a move request. I have created a discussion at Talk:Bashira (film). (non-admin closure)  Steel1943  (talk) 21:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Bashira → List of newspapers in Iraq (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Move Bashira (film) to Bashira, as the article about the film at least has citations and seems more notable than the newspaper in Iraq which had zero sources for 16 years and which we weren't able to find any sources for now. If/when sources are found for the newspaper, the article could be recreated as Bashira (newspaper). Cielquiparle (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Alley Boy
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Alley Boy → Atlantic Records (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Redirects to an article that doesn't mention this subject. Delete the redirect and let the redlinks be red again. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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"Alcohol expectations" and "Alcohol expectancies"
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 6%23"Alcohol expectations" and "Alcohol expectancies"

Bui Quoc Huy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 8%23Bui Quoc Huy

Various "ingesting/eating soap" redirects towards "Washing out the mouth with soap"
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  ✗  plicit  00:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Eat soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Eating soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Drink soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Drinking soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Ingest soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Ingesting soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Swallow soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]
 * Swallowing soap → Washing out the mouth with soap (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

I do not believe any of these phrases has been used in regular context as synonymous phrases for the target. If anything, these phrases most likely refer to soap-eating, which apparently there is a word for: Sapophagia, which we apparently do not have an article for. And ... sapophagia does not exist either. Steel1943 (talk) 18:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete them all as per WP:REDLINK. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, inclined to agree that the phrases don't really match the article's intended meaning (more around taste and contemporarily, as an expression). The closest to relevance is perhaps "ingest" but it's not a likely phrase either. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment I have long wondered if perhaps an article by the name of "soap ingestion" or something similar would be appropriate. Unlike "washing out the mouth with soap," which refers specifically to a form of punishment, "soap ingestion" encompasses the use of soap as punishment, compulsive soap-eating (sapophagia), accidental soap ingestion, and more. Andrea Parton (talk) 05:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * comment: no chance of the act or fetish of consuming soap becoming its own article? i think it would warrant at least someone remembering to write a definition for it in wiktionary, since the word exists  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If so, the article would be similar to Pagophagia. Steel1943  (talk) 12:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * don't see how, honestly. pagophagia might gradually kill some people sometimes maybe, sapophagia could probably do it in a week
 * that aside, they are different forms of consuming things, sapophagia might not be inherently voluntary, compulsive, or intentional, and they are different things being consumed
 * maybe the section names would be similar?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 12:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That's what I was getting at. I was not saying that they would be identical, but had some similarities. Some things similar I'm finding, for example, are related to people participating in these acts if they are iron-deficient. Steel1943  (talk) 13:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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Croangunk
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 5%23Croangunk

Croalurk
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Croalurk → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

apparently initially a misreading of its english name due to a low quality picture, currently a name for other unrelated things (mostly fursonas, apparently)  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only thing I can think of with this name would be a fusion of Croagunk with Golurk in Pokemon Infinite Fusion... except Croagunk isn't IN Infinite Fusion. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Bidoof's Big Stand
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to List of Pokémon special episodes. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Bidoof's Big Stand → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

that's a 2022 animated short, currently not mentioned in the target. if mentions of it could be made somewhere, would it be in the current target?  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment It seems to be referenced at List of Pokémon special episodes. A retarget there could work. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to List of Pokémon special episodes as per Pokelego999. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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BIbarel
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * BIbarel → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

that's an uppercase i, not a lowercase L. doesn't seem like a plausible or possible typo, considering how the search function works  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, unlikely error. Also, it's aesthetically offensive . Rusalkii  (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Magnufo
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . Hey man im josh (talk) 18:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Magnufo → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

a... fan-made finnish name used in a fandom wiki and nowhere else? it seems to have been speculation before, but i found nothing that suggests the creator didn't come up with it on the spot  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 17:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, seems like it was created as a short-lived article under the misinterpretation as to what the translation from Japanese would be (and also perhaps as a duplicate of an existing one). I have looked at the original article from '07 and its references on archive.org, which have no mention of this name. Google only turns up fan speculation from around the time, nothing credible. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Stubby (Pokémon)
<span id="Stubby (Pokémon)"> <span id="Stubby (Pokemon)"> Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 5%23Stubby (Pokémon)

NYSE: F
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 * The result of the discussion was keep  . Hey man im josh (talk) 18:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * NYSE: F → Ford Motor Company (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Only redirect of its kind, with most others of the same format omitting the space between the colon and identifier. <span style="color:#f80;font-family:'Cascadia Code',monospace">mwwv  converse ∫ edits  17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Unambiguous and harmless. Weak only because it's barely used. Thryduulf (talk) 11:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - the space after the colon is how ticker symbols are usually formatted in writing, so it's surprising that there aren't others like this. Weak because if there aren't others, it may not be that useful. --Sable232 (talk) 01:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Starlhawk
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Starlhawk → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

the only results i've seen of this that aren't misspellings of "starhawk" are speculation or wikipedia-related tools  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. I'm not sure a Pokémon exists or ever existed by this exact name and I can't find any results for it. 〜 Askarion   ✉  13:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Starlbird
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Starlbird → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

the only results i've seen of this that aren't misspellings of "starbird" are speculation or wikipedia-related tools  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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Chimeglebell
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 17:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Chimeglebell → List of generation IV Pokémon (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

doesn't seem like it was ever intended or speculated to be its name. wouldn't work in-game either, as it's 12 characters long when pokémon names had a 10 character limit until gen 5 (it was raised to 12 in gen 6). see talk:chingling for proof that this isn't even the first time this was questioned  cogsan (nag me)  (stalk me) 16:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete Zero hits on Google/DDG
 * Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  06:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Arzeus
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 5%23Arzeus

Magburn
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 5%23Magburn

Dusky pink
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  . As an unopposed deletion nomination.  Jay  💬 17:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Dusky pink → Shades of pink (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned in the target article. Searching the rest of Wikipedia for this phrase, the phrase seems to be mentioned in multiple articles, but none of the respective articles seems to define this redirect adequately to be an appropriate target for this redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 16:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * There has been no participation. How do you want to proceed on this? Jay  💬 17:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe deletion to be the best course of action here. Steel1943  (talk) 17:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Baby pinks
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to Shades of pink.  Jay  💬 16:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Baby pinks → Baby Blues (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Not mentioned in target disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 14:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Shades of pink as a . The target section has a link to Gendered associations of pink and blue which is the only other plausible target I've found. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Thryd. Rusalkii  (talk) 20:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Shades of pink per Thryduulf -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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Zoznam.sk
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 5%23Zoznam.sk

Karli Smith
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 5%23Karli Smith

Stupefying
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget  to stupefying.  Jay  💬 07:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Stupefying → Date rape drug (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

This redirect is so stupefying (pun intended). Date rape drugs are hardly the only thing in the world that could be considered "stupefying". Maybe retarget to stupefying? Duckmather (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * REtarget to narcotic, where stupefacient points to -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 05:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment as original creator I'm pretty sure I created this redirect when working on a crime page or criminal bio. I have no objection to retargeting. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Right off the bat, my very first thought when seeing the word "stupefying" was immediately the "Stupefy" spell from Harry Potter, followed immediately by "this is a synonym for 'astounding'/'shocking'/'amazing'". Needless to say that pointing this to Date rape drug or narcotic, or really ANYTHING pertaining to drugs, would be... well, WP:STUPEFYING. this is not a real redirect, I'm piping it to WP:SURPRISE for the bit. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Crosswiki to wikitionary - I'm right there with Lunamann on reacting to this one, except my first thought is "synonym to astounding/shocking/amazing/etc", while my second thought goes to Harry Potter. I have never heard of narcotics being called a stupefacient before, though it makes sense in retrospect... but stupefying has no connection to stupefacient in my head whatsoever, and thus even less connection to narcotics.  In this case, I'd just want it to go to the dictionary.  I don't expressly object to outright deletion, but I think the dictionary would be more useful, so that's my official !vote. Fieari (talk) 04:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * For the record, I don't object to a crosswiki redirect either, it makes sense to me. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Roman CatholicnDiocese of Nha Trang
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 07:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Roman CatholicnDiocese of Nha Trang → Roman Catholic Diocese of Nha Trang (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Atypical typo in title. Thousands of diocese, and only one "Catholicn" redirect. BD2412 T 03:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete Seems like Db-error page move happened, without any significant history. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  06:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry to reply like this, but aren't you an admin? You can delete this without fuss if this wasn't listed here. Intrisit (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:NORUSH. Steel1943  (talk) 19:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I prefer not to presume whether there might be a reason for keeping that I am not seeing. BD2412  T 18:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That question was directed at Ca, not you, as he/she is also an admin like you. Nevertheless, it's sounds funny to me when admins having the ability to delete errant (if not glaring errant) titles like these list them at RFD... Strange!! Intrisit (talk) 10:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry! I changed the indentation level of your comment, since I thought you were trying replying to BD2412. I think you are mistaken; I am not an admin and never have been, but I sometimes help out by closing RfDs. Ca <sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">talk to me!  11:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete unlikely misspelling as there is at least two errors here. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as an implausible search term. InterstellarGamer12321 ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 15:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - Implausible typo. Fieari (talk) 04:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Betamine
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 * The result of the discussion was delete  .  Jay  💬 16:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Betamine → Betanin (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ retarget] /[ delete]  ]

Recommend deletion of this redirect, unless a reliable source can be found that betamine = betanin. Currently, the only evidence that's been presented is a 1980 that doesn't exactly say betamine = betanin. Google Scholar turns up three results and Google turns up nothing relevant. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Please check out the chemical formulae. Unless I misread something, the formula in that patent for betamine is the same as in the article for betanin. Grv87 (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The source that you found, Hagers Handbuch der Pharmazeutischen Praxis, Vol. 2, edition of 1969, lists synonyms:
 * > Beetenrot. Betanin. Rouge de betterave. Bétamine. Rosso di barbabietola. Betamina. (E 162) Grv87 (talk) 18:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. Sources such as the CAS database (SciFinder) and PubChem 1 indicate betamine is the common name for a compound with the formula C9H10I2N2O2, for which enwiki has not content. The name should be vacant until there is content about the compound. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Then it's a different compound with the same name. Could it be a disambiguation page? Grv87 (talk) 13:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Mdewman6's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Ok. I analyzed about 10 scientific articles that mention 'betamine'. Looks that it's a common word for typos. Besides betanin, it could also mean betaine, ketamine or Betadine. 2 articles use it for some other compounds. Not C9H10I2N2O2, but containing sulfur or phospohours. And 2 articles use 'betamine' for 'major pigment of red beet'. I think we could agree this means betanin. I checked the sources of these articles, they have 'betanine' and 'betamin'. So, we can see how 'betanin' becomes 'betamine'. BTW, 'betamine' as red beet dye is mentioned in one of House M.D. episodes. As for the patent, it references the article in Drugs & Cosmetic Industry. This article indeed has 'betamine', but no sources. And that magazine is unreliable, I found typos even in authors names. So, my proposition 1) delete redirect 2) save information about dental plaque disclosant in betanin article. Can we agree on this? Grv87 (talk) 17:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The content of the betamine article should be discussed on that talk page, not here. If you want to share some sources on the article talk page, I'm happy to take a look. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Will do. What's the process on redirect, should I delete it myself, or we have to wait for consensus? Grv87 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait for the process to play out. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I assume you meant Betanin article and its talk page, and not Betamine article. And I assume you are fine with deleting Betamine? Jay  💬 07:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. voorts (talk/contributions) 11:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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