Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/2013 October 2

= October 2 =

Google changed?
Until a few minutes ago, when I went to Google it showed me a bar across the top with Images, Maps, YouTube, etc. It was very convenient. Now you have to click on a 3x3 image of dots to get to some of those things, and you have to scroll to get to some of them. Also, Google Images is not on the list. Is there a way to get Google back to the old way? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * and News - that was the one I used the most. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 15:31, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * To the left of the 3x3 grid I see the word "images", and clicking that brings me to image search. Under "settings" at the bottom, I don't see a way to restore the old behavior, but maybe there is if you sign in.  Also, under the settings list is a feedback link.  RudolfRed (talk) 02:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * To the left of the 3x3 dots on mine (Firefox and IE), it shows my login name. As you suggested, I found "feedback" and sent some.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:43, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * For me (not logged in) it shows the old way in IE9 but this weird new way in FF24 (just updated from 23 a second ago, when I clicked on it to test this.) So I assume it only happens if your browser is up to date... -- .Yellow1996. (ЬMИED¡) 02:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * IE10 shows it the new way for me. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 14:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

• It does what you say 'Bubba' when you select a new tab (whether signed in or not), however if I select Google.com.au from my shortcut bar (Or type it into the address bar) the black 'nav bar' re-appears. In .au guise it now 'also' includes a 'Grey Bar' right across the bottom. (Google.au still has the 'old' more 3d looking logo too, but the 'new tab' version has the 'flat' logo??). • More general info from googlesystem.blogspot.com.au here and here. Official Google blog here--220  of  Borg 12:05, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * A related question came up her on 21 September 'Chrome Apps'. Your version is probably now '29.0.1547.76 m' or '30.0.1599.66 m' (literally just updated, again!) (prior Ver. '29.0.1547.66'). But you're not using Chrome are you.

Side note: As of right now (22:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)), IE9 has now switched to the new google. -- .Yellow1996. (ЬMИED¡) 22:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

How do I log out of Google now ?
Under this new setup, it's not obvious how. StuRat (talk) 14:31, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Click on the image in the very top right corner. You should see a "Sign Out" button in the dialogue that appears.  Rojomoke (talk) 15:03, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I assume by "image" you mean my Google user name. Yes, clicking on that seems to work now, but it didn't yesterday.  That was the first thing I tried.  I guess they just fixed it.  Thanks.  StuRat (talk) 15:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I've got my picture there. I wasn't sure what would appear if you didn't have an image associated with your acvcount.  Rojomoke (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. StuRat (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Is there a stereotype that programmers are addicted to Mountain Dew?
If so, why?


 * Not really a stereotype literally, but there are jokes saying programmers are devices which convert caffeine to code. Mountain Dew has more caffeine than Coke or Pepsi.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a ripoff of Paul Erdős's line about a mathematician converting coffee into theorems. ("Coffee" was a euphemism, by the way.) --Trovatore (talk) 18:52, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And he was right ;-) Ssscienccce (talk) 20:41, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think of Mountain Dew more for gamers, who don't have time to stop for food or they will lose the game. Programmers can usually take a break for food. StuRat (talk) 18:56, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm a programmer of 35 years standing and I once tried a Mountain Dew and it made me very ill. I'll stick to my regular latte thanks! --TrogWoolley (talk) 19:19, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd agree with Stu that Mountain Dew is seen as more of a gamer thing, and add that Jolt Cola is the choice of programmers as depicted in the wonderful documentary Hackers, starring Angelina Jolie. Recury (talk) 19:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * To the question in the header (note the question was over the existence of the stereotype not the accuracy of the stereotype), yes         all found with a simple search. Nil Einne (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen Jolt cola in probably over 15 years.... is it still around? I remember it tasting like distilled pepsi. Shadowjams (talk) 20:12, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Mountain Dew and Kit Kats? It's a wonder all programmers aren't assumed to be fat nerds scared of sunlight... It was revealed recently that Google programmers and coders snack on Kit Kats when working late on Android. That's the publicised story of why the next Android version will be called Kit Kat anyhow. Not completely off topic... Thanks ツ Jenova   20  (email) 20:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * One stereotype I'm familiar with is caffeine pills for gamers. I guess this could also apply to programmers on a tight schedule, having to work late at night to meet a deadline. Personally I have never heard the Mountain Dew one... though then again I'm only an amateur programmer, and a retro gamer! ;) -- .Yellow1996. (ЬMИED¡) 22:52, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you ever tried caffeine pills? I would not like to try and code on caffeine pills (only an amateur coder myself btw). The two times I took caffeine pills I would not have considered myself competent to cross the road safely, let alone do anything which requires intense thought. Equisetum (talk &#124; contributions) 22:20, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I can't say that I have; and after hearing your anecdote, the prospect is even less appealing to me than ever before! -- .Yellow1996. (ЬMИED¡) 02:51, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I had the misfortune of trying caffeine gum, which apparently was made by mixing in raw coffee grounds, and tasted like it. It had the effect of keeping my eyes open, but I was in a stupor, not good for much of anything (and the first wise-ass who says "So how's that any different from normal ?" gets a black eye). StuRat (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know about stereotypes, but Diet Coke is the most popular drink among the programmers I've known. It has the caffeine but not the sugar. Looie496 (talk) 15:20, 3 October 2013 (UTC)