Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/2017 January 19

= January 19 =

Keyboard (wired)
I can't find the wired version of the following two keyboards for purchase, Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Desktop and Surface Ergonomic Keyboard, could someone help me please? Also, what is the difference between a 'normal' and a 'business' keyboard? 103.230.107.19 (talk) 07:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The Microsoft keyboard is not produced in wired form. It is only wireless now. Finding out-of-production items is always going to be difficult. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 13:18, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Computer keyboards (see article) come in a number of varieties and prices. For business use, one may look for wireless rather than USB connection (to reduce cable clutter), mechanical rather than membrane keyswitches (if the audible feedback is preferred for prolonged typing) and the presence of a dedicated 10-key pad for number entry, for example in spreadsheets. Blooteuth (talk) 14:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Since ebay began, finding out-of-production items has become far simpler. StuRat (talk) 14:41, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Triumph-Adler Alphatronic P1/P2
Greetings,

I am trying to write an article about the microcomputer Triumph-Adler Alphatronic P1/P2 using its tecnical and user manuals, and with the computer itself. As it proved a long time ago, they provide insuficient information to write the article with quality, as I don't have some data.

I would need sources which could tell me when its production was finished (retirement), how many where built (in general; per variation could be also great) and sold, and at what countries did they arrive really.

Thank you very much,

Buran Biggest Fan (talk) 15:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If you failed to find authoritative sources for that, it is likely that the subject is not notable enough to even bother with writing the article. Tigraan Click here to contact me 17:26, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There appears to be several german language sources here which may be helpful. -- Jayron 32 17:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Scanning these sources into page 4 or so of search results, there's plenty of technical information about all aspects of the machine and its software, but none of the generalized business info you desire. Sorry :( You might consider asking Triumph-Adler directly; these kinds of figures strike me as uncontroversial and the kind of information that is fine to ref to primary sources, and the company would very likely be happy to provide historical information. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 UK layout (wired)
Require link(s) to buy from U.S.A. Paying with "$" via 'card'. This is the UK querty model no: "B2M-00008" and this is the USA querty model no: "B2M-00012". 103.230.104.30 (talk) 07:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Mouse (wired)
Looking for a mouse that will satisfy me and my wrist. Current possession; I use it heavily, doesn't satisfy my wrist so, give me something good please! 103.230.105.5 (talk) 19:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * How is anyone supposed to guess at how you hold your mouse? Have you tried simply NOT pressing your wrist down? Wrist problems didn't exist for the years and years that typewriters were used. Typists were trained to keep their wrists off the desk. If your wrist ever touches the desk when typing or using the mouse, you are doing it wrong. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 19:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , specifically for sentences 3 and 5. SemanticMantis (talk) 19:54, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Have you tried an alternative pointer device like a trackball? -- Jayron 32 19:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Here is a UK store that specializes in ergonomic computer peripherals. The vertical mouse seems to be a popular alternative. SemanticMantis (talk) 19:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I use a mouse for at least 8 hours most days of the week and have had wrist "issues" in the past, I use a silicon wrist rest (the kind attached to a mouse mat) and find it helps. Vespine (talk) 22:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Wired mouses are brutal to your hand; the wire is resisting every movement. I had nasty carpal tunnel sorts of issues until I switched to a wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, which allowed me to constantly change my position. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 16:39, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The company Anker Technology or short Anker has a history of offering budget (cheap) mice of excellent design quality. The "Anker® 8200" for example is a famous "gamer mouse" often refered to as "insider" or "pro" choice because the brand name is practically unknown compared to "Logitec" or "Razer". --Kharon (talk) 07:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Wired mouses are brutal to your hand;  citation needed. That seems ridiculous to me, I use wired and wireless mice and I very much doubt the wire provides any meaningful "resistance" if it's kept relatively loose. I use very high sensitivity so my mouse movements are rarely more than a couple of inches, I can easily nudge the mouse to slide that far across the table and the cable really does nothing. Vespine (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Kill Saddam Hussien Windows 3.1 game
I'm looking for an old free/shareware video game that was made for Windows 3.1 that involved multiple Saddam Hussiens running across the screen with a shopping cart full of weapons and you had to try and click on them. If you successfully clicked one a rocket would fly across the screen and kill him. The game was NOT a DOS game, it was a Windows 3.1 game. The Windows 3.1 desktop and program manager remained visible while the game played with the Saddam Hussiens running around in front of it in a similar way to how "screenmates" such as BonziBuddy worked. My searches have found several DOS games about killing Saddam Hussien but these are NOT what I am looking for. The game was a Windows-only game played from within Windows. If you can give me any information about it, or better yet a link to it, that would be great. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.72.7.18 (talk) 19:58, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Muslim Massacre ? although it's not a Windows 3.1 game - I very much doubt there was one. Wasn't Saddam considered a good guy in the early 1990s? --TrogWoolley (talk) 10:17, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Desert storm was in the early 90s. Bush took the military right up to Hussien's front door, rang the doorbell, and ran away (I know - it seemed pointless back then also). He wasn't considered a good guy. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 14:04, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually it was a well thought-out plan. Bush Sr., unlike his son, was pretty smart.  He knew that removing Saddam from power would create all sorts of problems, like eliminating the check on Iran, and potentially leaving Iraq in chaos, and this is exactly what happened, with ISIS resulting, after Saddam was removed.  So, just freeing Kuwait and weakening the Iraqi military was the perfect solution.  StuRat (talk) 03:14, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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