Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/2021 June 7

= June 7 =

Prevalence of enterprise wikis
I want to know if one took a close look at each of the Fortune 1000 companies, how many would you estimate have an enterprise wiki in place that is used by at least 5% of its employees or 5% of its customers? Furthermore (and perhaps more importantly to me), what are the leading platforms of enterprise wikis -- for example, the five platforms that are most commonly used by businesses of any size? I have looked at Comparison_of_wiki_software and at Wiki_software, but neither of these pages seem to make any attempt to "rank" the wikis in terms of market adoption. I know this is an extremely difficult question to answer with authority, but maybe it would minimally help to have Wikipedians sound off their personal anecdotal knowledge, such as, "I work at VistaPrint, and we use Nuclino." Thank you. Hard thoughtful work (talk) 05:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * A bit US-centric though, why restrict it to Fortune 1000 when there are large multinational players elsewhere? You'll probably also find that in a large company there may be several Wikis, some behind firewalls or air gaps.  They'll also range from company-wide to departmental, team and individual. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 06:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * So, make it the Fortune Global 500. Now that it's not US-centric, do you have any other guidance? Hard thoughtful work (talk) 15:53, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Still the points though about small systems and hidden ones. I'm retired now, but in the past I've seen a corporate Wiki (using mediawiki), mainly used by technical types, various departmental wikis, one I ran for my users (using DokuWiki) and a personal one for keeping notes (also DW).  Looked at from outside you would see none of these.  You can't even rely on downloads.  Many corporate systems operate their own repositories behind security barriers, even air gaps.  As a general case, one download might mean a few repos, and goodness only knows how many individual installations.  It will be similar with Wikis.
 * Restricting to literally "enterprise wiki"s, then I'd suggest a first guess would be one per enterprise! However a lot depends upon corporate culture, specifically security concerns. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:19, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Since the popularity of Wikiepdia began, I've worked with four separate companies, tried to get some form of wiki adopted at each one, and found that I'm the only one who used it. Nobody else, literally nobody else at all, would use it. As for size, the first is listed as having over 14,000 employees, the second has over 8,000, the third over 22,000, and the company I retired from has over 183,000 employees. You'd think that in companies that size I could find at least one other person willing to login and edit a wiki. Nope. In all four, they are hooked on OneDrive. Why? "I can't add a picture easily on the wiki." 97.82.165.112 (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This was my suspicion, and thank you for providing that info. In my experience, I think very few large corporations take advantage of wikis.  Nonetheless, I would like to know which platforms are used by the few companies that have taken the step. Hard thoughtful work (talk) 15:53, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * My personal (and likely idiotic) opinion: OneDrive uses MS Office products. They have edit history and attribution. Everyone at most offices have no problem using them. So, there's no gain for a wiki because people currently use products they know and don't have to learn wiki syntax. The big problem with anything like OneDrive where everyone shares a single repository of office documents: Where is it? I spend most of my time asking where files are. Even when you find one, is it the latest one? Copies get made. Files end up in multiple places. A wiki is unique in that you can redirect multiple names to one document and use special pages to create a list of pages a person might want. So, if I call it the "TPS Report" and you call it the "TestSpec Report", we can have both names redirect to the exact same place. If OneDrive had redirects that are very easy to set up, I could apply my own name to all the files I use and not bother anyone else who has their own names. One guy I used to work with placed everything in folders: YEAR/MONTH/ because he thought chronologically. Another placed everything in weird numerical indexed folders like 1.ANALYSIS/3.INDEPENDENT/2.SUBMITTED/. With redirects, we don't need all those weird folders. We just give everything we use a name we naturally use and then everyone is using MS Office products they like and they get the ease of finding stuff like they do on a wiki. 97.82.165.112 (talk) 19:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Formal Public Identifier
My question is about registered and unregistered Formal Public Identifiers.

Is there a registry somewhere? Is there a list one could check to see if an FPI is registered? Registered with who? Our existing articles are not clear on this.

Our article on Formal Public Identifier says:


 * Owner identifiers that are prefixed with " " indicate unregistered owners. (The W3C is notable for not having registered its FPI name.) Registered identifiers are prefixed with " " and a small number of identifiers assigned by International Organization for Standardization (ISO) do not require a prefix at all.


 * Registered domain names may be used as owner identifiers. [ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3151.txt ] For example, the owner of  could issue FPIs using the owner identifier " ".

rfc3151 says:

..."IDN" scheme for producing a registered owner identifier from a domain name.

but does not give any further details. Is this in another RFC somewhere?

rfc3151 also says:

Here are some example FPIs: +//IDN python.org//DTD XML Bookmark Exchange Language 1.0//EN//XML -//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN -//ArborText::prod//DTD Help Navigation Document::19970708//EN ISO/IEC 10179:1996//DTD DSSSL Architecture//EN ISO 8879:1986//ENTITIES Added Latin 1//EN ...and of course we have the commonly used FPIs: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> and <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd"> --Guy Macon (talk) 13:49, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Owner: "ISO 9070:1991 defines how registered names are generated; it might be derived from the number of an ISO publication, an ISBN code, or an organization code assigned according to ISO 6523. In addition, a registration authority could be created in order to assign registered names. The ISO council delegated this to the American National Standards Institute (ANSI)." from here —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 14:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Very helpful. It appears to me that if you own a domain name you can use the plus sign on the doctype of your custom markup language. I suspect that it really doesn't matter as long as it is unique. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:20, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

About Instagram
I started learning coding, and I don't know much. I was thinking about instagram. In wikipedia we have tool called "What links here". Is there a way that such thing can be used in insta. I mean, is it possible that I give one username and the program fetches all posts from which it is linked. Can a independent professional developer do it. Another simpler question, When I log in insta on desktop web(google chrome), Is it possible that the follower list, comment section can be opened in separate window so I can view it all at once. I want to search for a reply to a comment(with more than 5000 replies). How to do? Maybe by using "inspect element", but what exactly in it? -- Parnaval (talk) 14:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , what you want to use is their application programming interface (API). It is documented here. They have two APIs at present: an "Instagram Graph API" and the "Instagram Basic Display API". I have no idea whether they will do what you want, but enjoy reading the docs! Elizium23 (talk) 14:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * (I'm not a coder) You can use Violentmonkey (Greasemonkey) to achieve some of your needs listed above. e.g.: Auto-open_comments_in_Instagram. See greasespot for script list - Vis M (talk) 23:48, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you both of you. Reading API is not easy but I am trying. -- Parnaval (talk) 05:19, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Looking for name of site with Wikipedia analytics
I'm looking for the name or url of a site that had various Wikipedia article analytics. It ranked articles by popularity, but also author interest which was a measure of how often they were edited. It ranked them by month and week and day. It had various top 50 or 100 lists of categories like people, movies, companies, etc.

On a page for an individual wikipedia article, it would rank the article according to stats like "length of article", "does it have an image or picture", "how many citations in the reference section", etc.

Visually, I believe it had stars and also an "AI" rating for Author Interest, i.e. the amount it was edited.

Does anyone remember this site? I saw it in 2020, 2019 and maybe 2018 and earlier as well. I think the name had 'pedia' in it as well, but I could be mistaken. I have tried to google it, but have not been able to find it. Maybe it is now gone?

Thank you for your help! --Fishermansworf (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I figured this out after searching some more. wikirank dot net was the site I was thinking of. --Fishermansworf (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2021 (UTC)