Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/2022 November 10

= November 10 =

Is there a way to deal with an archive of a web page that is blurry?
Take a look at this. While it's not an independent reliable source, it may be the closest thing we're going to get.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:07, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * What is it supposed to be a source for? AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:08, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I wanted to find a way to confirm that there has been a significant format change on WVLG. — Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:28, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If you edit the html and delete the div starting with "  " it will get rid of blur. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Where do I use this? The objective is to show what is behind the right arrow.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  17:56, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You have to save the html source as a text file so that you can edit it with a text editor. A division start with &lt;div ...> and ends with &lt;/div>; these divisions can be nested. I see a list with the heading, followed by a list of 10 songs:
 * --Lambiam 19:50, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, X Y problem here but it seems like a lot of trouble for something that you admit is not an independent, reliable source. If I understand your issue correctly, it would not be admissible to support such a claim as a format change at the radio station. Elizium23 (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I was afraid that might be the case, but we can't have an article with out-of-date information. Anyway, this solution might help someone.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Most articles contain out-of-date information. It's the inevitable consequence of Wikipedia policy requiring proper sourcing, combined with over-enthusiasm for creating article on subjects we are unlikely to be able to get consistent up-to-date coverage of. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "I'm going with the approved method of getting things right. I sent an email to the last newspaper for which the WVLG article has a source listed. I made the point the radio station has completely changed its view of what reitred people like. That sounds like something that would merit an article.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * How would an email help? We don't cite personal correspondence. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "That sounds like something that would merit an article." If that is indeed the result, which seems unlikely.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:13, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retirees ain't what they used to be. People who retired in the 2000s grew up with the music of the 1960s and 1970s. People who retire in the 2020s have grown up with the music of the 1980s and 1990s. What has changed may not be so much the station's view on their musical taste, but their actual musical taste. --Lambiam 09:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The important thing is that if anyone runs into the problem with the archived web page being blurry we know how to solve it.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:30, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of methods for blurring or dimming content behind a modal dialog or behind a paywall, etc. Not all of them are reversible. Elizium23 (talk) 16:34, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This one was, of course, by clicking on the play button.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, X Y problem here but it seems like a lot of trouble for something that you admit is not an independent, reliable source. If I understand your issue correctly, it would not be admissible to support such a claim as a format change at the radio station. Elizium23 (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I was afraid that might be the case, but we can't have an article with out-of-date information. Anyway, this solution might help someone.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Most articles contain out-of-date information. It's the inevitable consequence of Wikipedia policy requiring proper sourcing, combined with over-enthusiasm for creating article on subjects we are unlikely to be able to get consistent up-to-date coverage of. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "I'm going with the approved method of getting things right. I sent an email to the last newspaper for which the WVLG article has a source listed. I made the point the radio station has completely changed its view of what reitred people like. That sounds like something that would merit an article.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * How would an email help? We don't cite personal correspondence. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "That sounds like something that would merit an article." If that is indeed the result, which seems unlikely.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:13, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Retirees ain't what they used to be. People who retired in the 2000s grew up with the music of the 1960s and 1970s. People who retire in the 2020s have grown up with the music of the 1980s and 1990s. What has changed may not be so much the station's view on their musical taste, but their actual musical taste. --Lambiam 09:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The important thing is that if anyone runs into the problem with the archived web page being blurry we know how to solve it.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:30, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of methods for blurring or dimming content behind a modal dialog or behind a paywall, etc. Not all of them are reversible. Elizium23 (talk) 16:34, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This one was, of course, by clicking on the play button.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)