Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 4

=March 4=

Help With this song
One part of the lyrics go (high) in the name of Love love/ (lower) love love love love....that is all i know..help please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.212.42.55 (talk) 05:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC).


 * Your description doesn't really match it, but it isn't U2's Pride (In the Name of Love) is it? -- Chairman S. Talk  Contribs  10:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's either that or a misheard version of All You Need is Love by The Beatles mattbuck 16:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If we're all making wild guesses, I'll chuck in Thieves Like Us by New Order. --88.111.111.163 17:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you all for the input. I found the song. Thanks for all of your help.


 * Which was it? 惑乱 分からん 23:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, don't leave us hanging mattbuck 11:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

jodie foster nude
How many movies did Jodie Foster appeared nude? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.14.118.65 (talk) 15:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC).


 * From memory: Backtrack, The Accused, and Nell. --Kainaw (talk) 21:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * CNDB is your friend! Someone also mentions Carny (?), but Kainaw seems to have gotten the basic ones. 惑乱 分からん 11:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Closed captioning of foreign words
I've noticed this when watching American films on video with the closed captioning turned on, and I've wondered why it is so: When a character who speaks English throughout the entire film happens to speak something in another language, those words don't show up on the captioning. All that you read is that it is another language. For example, in The American President, when Sydney (Annette Bening) speaks to the President of France at the state dinner in French, the closed captioning simply says, (speaking French). As a viewer with full hearing who is somewhat bilingual, I enjoy being able to understand the non-English dialogue. Do the producers and/or captioners believe that there are not deaf people who can read multiple languages? — Michael J  17:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Presumably because someone who is listening to the movie and does not speak French would not understand what was said, similarly it's not important to people reading the script via captioning to know what is being said in French either, just that something is being said in French. Incidentally, in the UK DVD of Firefly when someone speaks in Chinese the caption just says "speaks galactic language"! -- Arwel (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Understood. But why not put the text in French or Chinese or whatever anyway? Those who don't understand it still won't, and those who do will. After all, isn't the whole point of closed captioning to give deaf and hearing-impaired viewers the same experience as those with full hearing? — Michael J  03:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Because they'd have to hire a bunch of translators to do the closed captioning of foreign languages.? I'm guessing that the studios pay for their videos to have the captioning. If the captioning company has to up their prices to pay for speakers of all those different languages then the studios might just drop the whole thing.  This is just a guess since I have no idea who pays for the captioning or if it's even mandated by some law that covers this plus making your building handicapped accesible if you own a business.  But I'd bet there's a financial reason in it somewhere.  Dismas |(talk) 09:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem is that most captioners are not subtitlers (no, they aren’t the same thing) and are monolingual. It is certainly true that some productions do caption the foreign-language dialogue (almost exclusively if it is written in Latin script; Chinese almost never gets transliterated). But it is increasingly rare as captioners face a growing demand and a dwindling supply of polyglot job applicants who are willing to caption lousy TV shows all day. The bottleneck is not really policy but monolingualism. And I have certainly seen enough shows with a bit of really important French dialogue that wasn’t rendered in French. – joeclark 21:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There are two cases:


 * The foreign-language dialogue is critical to the plot. In this case it is typically translated for us either by a character in the movie, or via subtitling (not closed captioning).  For example, this happens often in Star Trek movies, with something important spoken in Klingonese or some other alien language.
 * The foreign-language dialogue is 'not' critical to the plot. Such conversations are often added for ambiance.  For example, if an English-speaking couple are dining in a Paris cafe, there may very well be others in the cafe speaking in French, but it has nothing to do with the plot (perhaps they are discussing their food), so translating it would only be distracting, and would give those conversations more importance than the director intended. StuRat 19:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You can find quite a bit of useful information about captioning at http://joeclark.org/access/. The guy who runs that web site is an expert in the field of captioning and also has quite a bit of useful (and highly opinionated) information on various other media accessibility issues. Some specific discussion on captioning of foreign-language speech is on this page. --Mathew5000 21:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Drusilla From Mickey Mouse
This Mickey Mouse character is from a Mickey Mouse newspaper comic strip story called "Mickey Mouse and the House of Mystery." I remember reading in a book about Mickey Mouse that someone wrote an academic article on her, suggesting that this character, a brilliant chemist, turned to crime after being snubbed by her peers, because she was a woman. I'd really appreciate it if you would find a citation for the article, or if it were in a book, maybe "How to Read Donald Duck"?

Stavner —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.154.204.34 (talk) 20:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC).


 * That socialist book? 惑乱 分からん 23:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)